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imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
June 08 2012 15:41 GMT
#41
On June 09 2012 00:21 1ntrigue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 23:06 Pokebunny wrote:
Stop relying on your age as a prop.

I wish I never mentioned my age at all.

13 is a lot younger than 16 in terms of mental development. I'd say that being a 12 or 13 year old masters player is an amazing achievement and validates the thread. By the time you're 15 or 16, you're probably at 80-90% of your normal mental ability, whereas a 13 year old seems more like 40-50% to me. Obviously, I'm no doctor but as a normal person, I find such a young masters player to be very impressive.

Or you have a lot of spare time at that age and you only play SC2. I know at least one such case :D
Now getting to GM will be the real test :p gl with that.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
June 08 2012 15:42 GMT
#42
Maybe it's just me, but knowing OP is 13 makes me less likely to watch than before. Go figure.
hpTheGreat
Profile Joined August 2010
United States173 Posts
June 08 2012 15:42 GMT
#43
Why is everyone such a douche nowdays?

Its not that masters is hard (for anyone that really tries), but doing it at that age means that he has the potential to become great if he keeps playing. Like someone else mentioned, he still has at least 5 to 9 years of not having to support himself (HS & college) so ...

gl hf kid
Blusso
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden11 Posts
June 08 2012 15:44 GMT
#44
On June 09 2012 00:39 DeepElemBlues wrote:
this thread is like a bad imitation of the playa hater's ball, good job at getting into masters and being a contributing part of the sc2 community blusso!



Thank you !
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
June 08 2012 15:44 GMT
#45
Holy shit, all of you, including poke, why are you on this kids back so hard? Congratulate him on making masters and playing to the level he has gotten. Tell him good luck with his stream and move on. Why do you feel the need to bring negativity into someone else's thread? Do you feel obligated to be emo as hell all over someone trying to get involved in the community?

Blows my mind how rude some people can be.
@OP good luck! Don't listen to this others who, online at least, come across as much younger than you. Keep practicing ^_^!
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
June 08 2012 15:48 GMT
#46
On June 09 2012 00:44 l_Kyo_l wrote:
Holy shit, all of you, including poke, why are you on this kids back so hard? Congratulate him on making masters and playing to the level he has gotten. Tell him good luck with his stream and move on. Why do you feel the need to bring negativity into someone else's thread? Do you feel obligated to be emo as hell all over someone trying to get involved in the community?

Blows my mind how rude some people can be.
@OP good luck! Don't listen to this others who, online at least, come across as much younger than you. Keep practicing ^_^!



The only reason people are on his back is because he is using his age as a crutch. If he just said - Hey, High Masters Terran streaming some fun games with commentary! - Nobody would have minded. Instead it is the idea that because he's young he's somehow exceptional and atypical that doesn't sit well with people. He has MORE time than most, MORE security than most, so what's stopping him from getting good? Nothing. That's why it isn't all that special/impressive.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 08 2012 15:48 GMT
#47
On June 09 2012 00:44 l_Kyo_l wrote:
Holy shit, all of you, including poke, why are you on this kids back so hard? Congratulate him on making masters and playing to the level he has gotten. Tell him good luck with his stream and move on. Why do you feel the need to bring negativity into someone else's thread? Do you feel obligated to be emo as hell all over someone trying to get involved in the community?

Blows my mind how rude some people can be.
@OP good luck! Don't listen to this others who, online at least, come across as much younger than you. Keep practicing ^_^!


Did you read the thread?

He's begging for attention not cause he's good but because he's 13.

He's even dumb enough to be willing to share his FB and e-mail to prove it. If you don't call that attention whoring I don't know what is.
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:56:45
June 08 2012 15:55 GMT
#48
Still waiting for the first 80+ GM.


On June 09 2012 00:48 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:44 l_Kyo_l wrote:
Holy shit, all of you, including poke, why are you on this kids back so hard? Congratulate him on making masters and playing to the level he has gotten. Tell him good luck with his stream and move on. Why do you feel the need to bring negativity into someone else's thread? Do you feel obligated to be emo as hell all over someone trying to get involved in the community?

Blows my mind how rude some people can be.
@OP good luck! Don't listen to this others who, online at least, come across as much younger than you. Keep practicing ^_^!


Did you read the thread?

He's begging for attention not cause he's good but because he's 13.

He's even dumb enough to be willing to share his FB and e-mail to prove it. If you don't call that attention whoring I don't know what is.


Wow wow wow. Why does him being 13 piss you off that much?

He presents his stream with a very brief message, whatever, perhaps he picks weird points to promote and is a bit naive about the whole FB thing. Whoring? Come on.
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
June 08 2012 15:55 GMT
#49
do people actually mean that his age is irrelevant? why would that be?

if a 18-year old is masters thats not interesting at all, but a 13-year old that already is at that skill level is like a footballplayer playing with kids 5 years older than him and beating them. of course its relevant and impressive..

maybe i just think this way because im 27 and not threatened.. i would not be surprised if most of the haters in this thread is around 17-20
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
June 08 2012 16:05 GMT
#50
On June 09 2012 00:55 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
do people actually mean that his age is irrelevant? why would that be?

if a 18-year old is masters thats not interesting at all, but a 13-year old that already is at that skill level is like a footballplayer playing with kids 5 years older than him and beating them. of course its relevant and impressive..

maybe i just think this way because im 27 and not threatened.. i would not be surprised if most of the haters in this thread is around 17-20


No, it isn't impressive, for the reasons I already stated. I guarantee that he has more time to play than most, since he has no obstacles in his way. No bills to pay, minimal homework, etc.

For the record, I'm turning 24 in two weeks.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 16:11:31
June 08 2012 16:09 GMT
#51
On June 09 2012 00:48 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:44 l_Kyo_l wrote:
Holy shit, all of you, including poke, why are you on this kids back so hard? Congratulate him on making masters and playing to the level he has gotten. Tell him good luck with his stream and move on. Why do you feel the need to bring negativity into someone else's thread? Do you feel obligated to be emo as hell all over someone trying to get involved in the community?

Blows my mind how rude some people can be.
@OP good luck! Don't listen to this others who, online at least, come across as much younger than you. Keep practicing ^_^!


Did you read the thread?

He's begging for attention not cause he's good but because he's 13.

He's even dumb enough to be willing to share his FB and e-mail to prove it. If you don't call that attention whoring I don't know what is.


You obviously missed the point of my post. Why do you bring negativity into the thread? Does this guy mean that much in your life that you have to go out of your way to post something ridiculous in his thread? Do you really need to "prove" that it isn't impressive, that it doesn't matter, that he shouldn't be watched?

If it really means THAT much to you then YOU'RE the one with problems. If he thinks it was important enough to focus on his age then let him.

+ Show Spoiler +
I suppose some people were not raised with proper etiquette. Just happens a lot of them flock onto these forums now. Very sad to see imho.
edit: Holy shit the people in this thread O.o Finished posting here.
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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SaroVati
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada280 Posts
June 08 2012 16:14 GMT
#52
First of all I believe that you guys should stop arguing about hate etc. on someone's stream thread thingy If you don't have much to say then there really is no reason to say it.

On a very VERY hypocritical note, I really don't see why he used the age in his title. It irks me. When Illusion (used to be on vile, and revoki previously) began as a high masters / GM player, he was 14. I never heard once from his mouth "by the way, I'm only 14". He played and got better and I respect him for keeping his modesty while still being such a strong player.

On topic again, good luck Hope you improve greatly and have fun with your streaming!
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 08 2012 16:14 GMT
#53
So much Envy in this thread
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XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
June 08 2012 16:15 GMT
#54
13 is old mate. When I was 13 I was tearing up wc3 and was Lvi 20 plus on the old ammo which is about master level in sc2.

I want to see the 8 year old master Lvlevel player. That'd be some epic trash talking
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
June 08 2012 16:16 GMT
#55
What's with these Scandinavian Wuenderkinds?
For Aiur???
Sazbak
Profile Joined March 2012
4 Posts
June 08 2012 16:20 GMT
#56
On June 09 2012 00:48 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:44 l_Kyo_l wrote:
Holy shit, all of you, including poke, why are you on this kids back so hard? Congratulate him on making masters and playing to the level he has gotten. Tell him good luck with his stream and move on. Why do you feel the need to bring negativity into someone else's thread? Do you feel obligated to be emo as hell all over someone trying to get involved in the community?

Blows my mind how rude some people can be.
@OP good luck! Don't listen to this others who, online at least, come across as much younger than you. Keep practicing ^_^!

"

The only reason people are on his back is because he is using his age as a crutch. If he just said - Hey, High Masters Terran streaming some fun games with commentary! - Nobody would have minded. Instead it is the idea that because he's young he's somehow exceptional and atypical that doesn't sit well with people. He has MORE time than most, MORE security than most, so what's stopping him from getting good? Nothing. That's why it isn't all that special/impressive.




"The only reason people are on his back is because he is using his age as a crutch."

And? Funny how people like to lecture others about their own definiton of "maturity" to make themselves feel grown-up/superior/mature. He is 13 give him a break.

"Hey, High Masters Terran streaming some fun games with commentary! - Nobody would have minded."

Actually I naively thought that even with his current opening post still noone would've minded but I always forget about the human nature.

"Instead it is the idea that because he's young he's somehow exceptional and atypical that doesn't sit well with people."

With people with the emotional maturity of a 9 year old kid.

"Talk to me when you're paying your bills AND getting better at SC2. "

Sour?



Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 08 2012 16:23 GMT
#57
On June 09 2012 00:21 1ntrigue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 23:06 Pokebunny wrote:
Stop relying on your age as a prop.

I wish I never mentioned my age at all.

13 is a lot younger than 16 in terms of mental development. I'd say that being a 12 or 13 year old masters player is an amazing achievement and validates the thread. By the time you're 15 or 16, you're probably at 80-90% of your normal mental ability, whereas a 13 year old seems more like 40-50% to me. Obviously, I'm no doctor but as a normal person, I find such a young masters player to be very impressive.

I was C in BW at 13 and B- shortly after I turned 14. Much harder than masters lol, masters is pretty easy.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 08 2012 16:26 GMT
#58
And no, age is seriously irrelevant, the only important factor is practice time.

Trust me, getting master at 13 is really not hard. Maybe if it was GM it would be slightly impressive, but either way the age is irrelevant. I wasn't trying to bash in any case - just simply recommending that he not rely on age as a prop for popularity.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
June 08 2012 16:28 GMT
#59
On June 09 2012 01:16 Fighter wrote:
What's with these Scandinavian Wuenderkinds?


Our "underbarn" have a lot of spare time just like all kids have. They use that time to play games.
If the dead are not raised, Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
June 08 2012 16:29 GMT
#60
why would you say ur 13 ? who cares rly ?
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