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YouMake
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
June 08 2012 18:23 GMT
#101
Why is it always "13 year old master" "Female grandmaster" stop being gimmicky and just show your skills and talent. Eventually the gimmick wears off and your skill shines through, and if you suck..well you suck. If your good people will come back, at the end of the day people want to see skill not some gimmick.
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JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 08 2012 18:24 GMT
#102
always impressive to see young sports do so well

gl
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:26:30
June 08 2012 18:25 GMT
#103
On June 09 2012 03:23 YouMake wrote:
Why is it always "13 year old master" "Female grandmaster" stop being gimmicky and just show your skills and talent. Eventually the gimmick wears off and your skill shines through, and if you suck..well you suck. If your good people will come back, at the end of the day people want to see skill not some gimmick.


whats more impressive, a pro hockey player whos 15 or a pro hockey player whos 24?
and for the female debate, its almost always the males dominating, and considering the male:female ratio in games are so stacked thats also interesting

why are you so mad about people marketing themselves? i wouldnt watch some random person whos just another masters, but a 13 year old masters, or a female masters make it much more interesting
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
June 08 2012 18:25 GMT
#104
Watching the stream, doesn't seem too impressive, I guess that's why a lot of people from BW say SC2 is easy
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
June 08 2012 18:26 GMT
#105
On June 09 2012 03:16 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:14 theBALLS wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:14 grush57 wrote:
Can you not put your age in the title to get attention? I was 12 when season 2 came out and I was masters and didn't make a thread about it.

And yet you just made a post about it


Yeah but I didn't make a thread about it with my age in it. Why can't he just put "Master Terran Streamer'? You don't see any pro's putting their age in their title of their streaming thread.


Well, that's because he's obviously gonna get more viewers if he's young and mentions his age, for instance look at najzmajs, he's like diamond and almost got 100 viewers consistently. WHY? Not because he's good but because he's 12.

Personally I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of it. If you're young and play a lot it's not really that hard to get into masters.

Just because ur 12-13 years old doesn't mean you're completely incompetent and stupid and can't learn and improve, truth is they actually have an easier time to learn and improve than someone who's like 37+.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 08 2012 18:26 GMT
#106
On June 09 2012 03:23 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:19 GreEny K wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:16 grush57 wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:14 theBALLS wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:14 grush57 wrote:
Can you not put your age in the title to get attention? I was 12 when season 2 came out and I was masters and didn't make a thread about it.

And yet you just made a post about it


Yeah but I didn't make a thread about it with my age in it. Why can't he just put "Master Terran Streamer'? You don't see any pro's putting their age in their title of their streaming thread.


Because to get viewers you need to set yourself apart from others... Why does nobody understand this...


I understand that he wants more viewers, but why can't he say something about his play or say "Commenting Master Terran" or "Creative Builds" or "Wacky micro" or "Solid Macro Terran" but he has to bring up an irrelevant thing about skill, his age. I just hope people won't watch him for his age alone.


That's exactly why he doesn't only say that... Everyone says that...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2012 18:26 GMT
#107
On June 09 2012 03:20 LuckyMacro wrote:
Don't see why any of this matters, the arguing.

GLHF dude..

It really doesn't.

Hopefully you get a lot of viewers even after people get over the fact you're 13.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2012 18:28 GMT
#108
On June 09 2012 03:25 JitnikoVi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:23 YouMake wrote:
Why is it always "13 year old master" "Female grandmaster" stop being gimmicky and just show your skills and talent. Eventually the gimmick wears off and your skill shines through, and if you suck..well you suck. If your good people will come back, at the end of the day people want to see skill not some gimmick.


whats more impressive, a pro hockey player whos 15 or a pro hockey player whos 24?

Being masters isn't a pro by a long shot. If you compare a 13 year old masters player say vs a 24 year old masters player, the 24 year old because he has responsibilities and doesn't nearly have the same time as the 13 year old.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 08 2012 18:29 GMT
#109
On June 09 2012 03:26 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:16 grush57 wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:14 theBALLS wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:14 grush57 wrote:
Can you not put your age in the title to get attention? I was 12 when season 2 came out and I was masters and didn't make a thread about it.

And yet you just made a post about it


Yeah but I didn't make a thread about it with my age in it. Why can't he just put "Master Terran Streamer'? You don't see any pro's putting their age in their title of their streaming thread.


doesn't mean you're completely incompetent and stupid and can't learn and improve, truth is they actually have an easier time to learn and improve than someone who's like 37+.


but arguably not someone whos 18+, which the majority of the sc2 population is
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 08 2012 18:29 GMT
#110
On June 09 2012 03:28 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:25 JitnikoVi wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:23 YouMake wrote:
Why is it always "13 year old master" "Female grandmaster" stop being gimmicky and just show your skills and talent. Eventually the gimmick wears off and your skill shines through, and if you suck..well you suck. If your good people will come back, at the end of the day people want to see skill not some gimmick.


whats more impressive, a pro hockey player whos 15 or a pro hockey player whos 24?

Being masters isn't a pro by a long shot. If you compare a 13 year old masters player say vs a 24 year old masters player, the 24 year old because he has responsibilities and doesn't nearly have the same time as the 13 year old.


its a comparison, the point is, the younger you are the more impressive your accomplishments are
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 08 2012 18:33 GMT
#111
I know these threads are usually frowned up, but wow. Some of the responses are just -_-

There are a lot of teams who recruit players that are very, very young if they have the talent so there is justification mentioning it. I wouldn't share your personal information however.

If you get good and do well in tournaments. Don't worry. The teams will find you.

Surprised this thread didn't get locked.

Anyway GL.

GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 08 2012 18:37 GMT
#112
On June 09 2012 03:28 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:25 JitnikoVi wrote:
On June 09 2012 03:23 YouMake wrote:
Why is it always "13 year old master" "Female grandmaster" stop being gimmicky and just show your skills and talent. Eventually the gimmick wears off and your skill shines through, and if you suck..well you suck. If your good people will come back, at the end of the day people want to see skill not some gimmick.


whats more impressive, a pro hockey player whos 15 or a pro hockey player whos 24?

Being masters isn't a pro by a long shot. If you compare a 13 year old masters player say vs a 24 year old masters player, the 24 year old because he has responsibilities and doesn't nearly have the same time as the 13 year old.


Actually if the 24 year old is a pro... Then the thing he is pro in is the only thing he should be doing or focusing on...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
EzaLB
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
June 08 2012 18:43 GMT
#113
Congrats im 14 and gm
EZ
EzaLB
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
June 08 2012 18:46 GMT
#114
No one cares of Age, Im on vVv and I dont go around saying "Hey im 14 and grandmaster watch me" Just Say your a young dedicated player stop relying on age for everything, like everyone is saying here~!
EZ
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
June 08 2012 18:48 GMT
#115
It's not a bad stream tbh. Sure, it can be annoying when they shove their age down your throat (funny how Pokebunny of all people is annoyed by that) but he commentates while he's playing and plays at a fairly high level.

If the only thing that sets him apart from other mid-high master players who stream is his age, then why not make a big deal about it? It's the only way he'll get viewers so of course he will mention it. I mean, the streaming market is so over-saturated and competitive, you need to stand out any way you can.

My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
June 08 2012 18:49 GMT
#116
so many sour people in this thread... ok, so when you where 13 you were good at a game but didnt tell anyone about it, and didnt make any money even though you where good? boo-hoo.

just think of the hilarity if someone beat down on a great entrepreneur with a comment like "when i was 16 i had a great idea, but i didnt tell anyone about it and didnt make any money.. why do you tell everyone about your idea and try to make money from it? i hate you"

he doesnt have to be illusion. he doesnt have to be YOU when you were 13. he can be a kid with a stream, and what does he have that other master league-players doesnt have? his age!

if he had one arm, he would put that down to get some viewers.. if he was a foreigner trying to make it in korea, maybe he would emphasis that point? dont blame him for not making the same mistakes you did..
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 08 2012 18:52 GMT
#117
On June 09 2012 03:46 EzaLB wrote:
No one cares of Age, Im on vVv and I dont go around saying "Hey im 14 and grandmaster watch me" Just Say your a young dedicated player stop relying on age for everything, like everyone is saying here~!


i completely disagree, for the reasons i stated above
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
EzaLB
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
June 08 2012 18:55 GMT
#118
On June 09 2012 03:52 JitnikoVi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:46 EzaLB wrote:
No one cares of Age, Im on vVv and I dont go around saying "Hey im 14 and grandmaster watch me" Just Say your a young dedicated player stop relying on age for everything, like everyone is saying here~!


i completely disagree, for the reasons i stated above


There are 12 year old gamers on Slayers that are gm level, it doesnt matter then age, congrats your young and you are pretty decent but doesnt mean you have to put your age on everything. You dont see those young pros in korea saying that about there stream right? Because they dont care about age its about being the best.
EZ
jakek95
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom351 Posts
June 08 2012 18:55 GMT
#119
I was in masters when I was 14. Age doesn't matter. Don't understand why people find this so shocking? Maru prime is 15 and grandmaster world wide top player and when he streams he barely gets 1.5-2k. and he's young and amazing, not just good. Strange world!
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
June 08 2012 18:56 GMT
#120
On June 09 2012 03:25 JitnikoVi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:23 YouMake wrote:
Why is it always "13 year old master" "Female grandmaster" stop being gimmicky and just show your skills and talent. Eventually the gimmick wears off and your skill shines through, and if you suck..well you suck. If your good people will come back, at the end of the day people want to see skill not some gimmick.


whats more impressive, a pro hockey player whos 15 or a pro hockey player whos 24?

There's so much wrong with that statement. Master league isn't anything special, not even close to "pro" level. Hockey is a very physically demanding sport, of course you can't play pro when you're not developed yet, physically. Any kid can learn to click quickly and you don't have to be a genius to play sc2. If he was a chess master at age 13, I'd be impressed. But this..

Anyway, it's still uncommon so I guess that's why people like it. Good luck.
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