• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:57
CET 12:57
KST 20:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0221LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)26Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker10PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)14
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) RSL Revival: Season 4 Korea Qualifier (Feb 14)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Which units you wish saw more use in the game? StarCraft player reflex TE scores [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2080 users

Ex SKT1 Pro In_Dove SC2 debut (Streaming) - Page 6

Forum Index > User Streams
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
January 29 2012 10:38 GMT
#101
On January 29 2012 09:13 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 09:12 brownthing wrote:
Anybody know his BW iccup rank?


A+
he's like at the top of fish server, can't really be measured by iccup rank


Lets just put it this way. He is 161-7 on ICCUP now. And the vast majority of those games were against A and A+ players.

To visualize the skill gap in sc1 as I see it:

ICCUP
D---C------------B-----------------A--------------------------S

Korea
Iccup S----------------------------------------------------------------Progamer B team---------------------------------------------------Progamer A team

InDove was a solid B teamer when he was active, after a short retirement he might have dropped down close to S.
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 10:46:46
January 29 2012 10:43 GMT
#102
On January 29 2012 18:46 nGBeast wrote:
Haha at people make fake accusations about him joining Flow Gaming, they are a bunch of nice guys good pick up if he stays.


I actually really appreciate that People don't seem to understand the situation at all. Thanks TT1! rofl. I have not nor have I ever offered Dove money to put my tag on his account, but seriously thanks for that accusation.

Edit: I feel I must add again for those of you who missed it Dove will still stream broodwar from time to time. He is incredibly talented at it and enjoys it quite a lot. Nobody wants to see him stop playing.
LiquidDota Staff
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
January 29 2012 10:45 GMT
#103
Wasn't Mvp A teamer?

Pretty cool news. InDove has a really nice stream, I've been watching his BW every chance I could.
Protossprod
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia5 Posts
January 29 2012 11:05 GMT
#104
I think everyone here who use to know dove or was a fan of dove you be greatfull that he is moving up into sc2 and joining a team to start and play with a team that is nice and loves to practice

You guys should be cheering for him to get better at sc2 instead of putting negative comments on Team FG and saying Rude and inconsiderate shit that doesnt need to be said.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
January 29 2012 11:34 GMT
#105
I don't think he was even sent out once in Proleague, so doesn't even qualify as an "elephant". But still an SKT1 Terran so I'll wait and see.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 29 2012 11:40 GMT
#106
Watched his stream recording...seems like he is havin alot of fun. Never seen or heard of him before in scbw.
Looking forward to see him play more sc2
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 12:49:29
January 29 2012 12:47 GMT
#107
On January 29 2012 13:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:34 Xcobidoo wrote:
So was he a "progamer" or just a practice partner in BW? Seems weird that someone good from BW would join a team no one has ever heard of? No offence.


skt1 a-teamer afaik, bw korean players have no clue wat the good/top sc2 teams are, wat most likely happened was this team offered dove some money to wear their tag and dove probably thought to himself "cool, free money"


This, absolutely. The thing is though they speak like UED is a known USWest team and making it sound like UED has been a good BW team for a long time , no offense to be quite frank, it seems kind of obvious that the team became so good because of the fact that players are being paid, I mean I don't think it is coincidental that all these good players join some random team out of no where , and a "good team" is formed, but really is there much chemistry between the team? Because I highly doubt there is.

I think it is awesome that Dove is playing SC2 but seriously, you shouldn't be pressing you're opinion's on everyone on TL and say if they don't know UED they are "ignorant" lol. UED used to be a USWest team I was good friends with the leader, it was a FASTEST / use map settings / whatever clan, not untill later , did these people with money come into the picture that started buying all of these good players to form a "good team".

Like I said before I think it's cool what you guys are doing and it is amazingly awesome to see Dove @ SC2 and I'm sure he will be top calibur but the way you present yourself and the clan is so unprofessional that it is deadly obvious what is going on. Not trying to be rude just reflecting my view's on what everyone else were trying to express and the little knowledge I knew about UED. I know FG as well, but this is no where near the level of a team that a EX SKT1 bw pro gamer should be on in my opinion, but like someone said before me, maybe it is better he is joining an unknown team so that team can become famous, nevertheless gl hf Dove!!! I love his play and have chatted w/ him several times, but I won't be supporting UED, sorry. gl hf gg and thank you for you're effort. God Bless~
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 15:15:26
January 29 2012 14:30 GMT
#108
missed a post, how awkward
Yuki_
Profile Joined January 2012
13 Posts
January 29 2012 14:54 GMT
#109
On January 29 2012 23:30 Eee wrote:
I dont mean to be a hater, but seriously you guys must be dump coming on to an sc2 forum and then not giving a proper introduction of yourselfs (to a community where probably the majority isnt/were'nt even bw players!). And then expect people not to hate. And then when they start doing so you guys respond "Haters gonna hate" instead of explaining yourselfs.

You guys could've stayed professional, explained that you were a BW team now venturing in to SC2 but instead you acted like eleven year old CoD players. For the sake of In_Dove i hope he realizes that if he wants to stay on foreign team and play competetive, this isnt right for him, playing for an team (what looks like) having a management built on 12 year olds who want to boast about their 20 inch e-penis on forums.



you just made no sense whatsoever but oh well


in_dove fighting!
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
January 29 2012 17:25 GMT
#110
On January 29 2012 21:47 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 29 2012 13:34 Xcobidoo wrote:
So was he a "progamer" or just a practice partner in BW? Seems weird that someone good from BW would join a team no one has ever heard of? No offence.


skt1 a-teamer afaik, bw korean players have no clue wat the good/top sc2 teams are, wat most likely happened was this team offered dove some money to wear their tag and dove probably thought to himself "cool, free money"


This, absolutely. The thing is though they speak like UED is a known USWest team and making it sound like UED has been a good BW team for a long time , no offense to be quite frank, it seems kind of obvious that the team became so good because of the fact that players are being paid, I mean I don't think it is coincidental that all these good players join some random team out of no where , and a "good team" is formed, but really is there much chemistry between the team? Because I highly doubt there is.

I think it is awesome that Dove is playing SC2 but seriously, you shouldn't be pressing you're opinion's on everyone on TL and say if they don't know UED they are "ignorant" lol. UED used to be a USWest team I was good friends with the leader, it was a FASTEST / use map settings / whatever clan, not untill later , did these people with money come into the picture that started buying all of these good players to form a "good team".

Like I said before I think it's cool what you guys are doing and it is amazingly awesome to see Dove @ SC2 and I'm sure he will be top calibur but the way you present yourself and the clan is so unprofessional that it is deadly obvious what is going on. Not trying to be rude just reflecting my view's on what everyone else were trying to express and the little knowledge I knew about UED. I know FG as well, but this is no where near the level of a team that a EX SKT1 bw pro gamer should be on in my opinion, but like someone said before me, maybe it is better he is joining an unknown team so that team can become famous, nevertheless gl hf Dove!!! I love his play and have chatted w/ him several times, but I won't be supporting UED, sorry. gl hf gg and thank you for you're effort. God Bless~


Thanks for the super long write acting like you know what's up, but nobody on our roster is "paid". So thanks for you're blessings.
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 29 2012 17:35 GMT
#111
In_Dove has two threads about him now in both sections. Perhaps you guys should just start a fanclub for him instead now. Would probably make things easier.
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 29 2012 17:40 GMT
#112
glgl In_Dove
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 29 2012 17:43 GMT
#113
On January 29 2012 18:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 18:23 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
On January 29 2012 16:44 TheyCallMePops wrote:
On January 29 2012 13:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 29 2012 13:34 Xcobidoo wrote:
So was he a "progamer" or just a practice partner in BW? Seems weird that someone good from BW would join a team no one has ever heard of? No offence.


skt1 a-teamer afaik, bw korean players have no clue wat the good/top sc2 teams are, wat most likely happened was this team offered dove some money to wear their tag and dove probably thought to himself "cool, free money"

Why does TT1 come into every topic and talk as if he knows the situation? I highly doubt this community team is attempting to scoop up a BW pro cheaply for their own recognition. They aren't even a corporation, it's a COMMUNITY CLAN. They are just helping him get on his feet in SC2 and try his hand at a foray into the game.

You think he needs that? Its In_Dove lol, what you're saying is insulting. He doesn't need anyone to get him going, he will be better than 99% of the NA server in 2 days. This whole situation seems kind of ridiculous tbh, I definitely see him going to a pro -team very soon if he actually cares at all about having an SC2 career.


and i never said i knew wat was happening, thats y i said "most likely"
was wat i said even negative at all? sry if it was yo


TT1 is talking about the days where Koreans where viewed as mercenaries. Hell, even some foreigners would clan/team hop for a small wage.

This isn't always the case.

These teams got a lot of flack for having Koreans and Chinese players on their team. Now it's cool when a Korean or other prominent players signs onboard with these teams. Just remember it wasn't always like that.

In any case, my advice TT1 is to stop projecting on their guild.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 17:45:09
January 29 2012 17:44 GMT
#114
On January 29 2012 21:47 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
On January 29 2012 13:34 Xcobidoo wrote:
So was he a "progamer" or just a practice partner in BW? Seems weird that someone good from BW would join a team no one has ever heard of? No offence.


skt1 a-teamer afaik, bw korean players have no clue wat the good/top sc2 teams are, wat most likely happened was this team offered dove some money to wear their tag and dove probably thought to himself "cool, free money"


This, absolutely. The thing is though they speak like UED is a known USWest team and making it sound like UED has been a good BW team for a long time , no offense to be quite frank, it seems kind of obvious that the team became so good because of the fact that players are being paid, I mean I don't think it is coincidental that all these good players join some random team out of no where , and a "good team" is formed, but really is there much chemistry between the team? Because I highly doubt there is.

I think it is awesome that Dove is playing SC2 but seriously, you shouldn't be pressing you're opinion's on everyone on TL and say if they don't know UED they are "ignorant" lol. UED used to be a USWest team I was good friends with the leader, it was a FASTEST / use map settings / whatever clan, not untill later , did these people with money come into the picture that started buying all of these good players to form a "good team".

Like I said before I think it's cool what you guys are doing and it is amazingly awesome to see Dove @ SC2 and I'm sure he will be top calibur but the way you present yourself and the clan is so unprofessional that it is deadly obvious what is going on. Not trying to be rude just reflecting my view's on what everyone else were trying to express and the little knowledge I knew about UED. I know FG as well, but this is no where near the level of a team that a EX SKT1 bw pro gamer should be on in my opinion, but like someone said before me, maybe it is better he is joining an unknown team so that team can become famous, nevertheless gl hf Dove!!! I love his play and have chatted w/ him several times, but I won't be supporting UED, sorry. gl hf gg and thank you for you're effort. God Bless~

Frankly people were not calling anyone idiot and ignorant just for not knowing what UED was. The negative reactions started when few people started bashing UED, FG and Dove for no reason at all, just because they never heard of them or they do not have a nice website. And actually you are continuing in the same vein of unprovoked bashing.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 29 2012 17:48 GMT
#115
Indeed,

If you know nothing about the team then I recommend you guys educate yourselves first before grabbing your pitchforks.
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
January 29 2012 17:52 GMT
#116
On January 29 2012 18:46 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 18:23 IntoTheBush wrote:
Coo, cant wait to check it out!
In regards to him being Diamond...I was a BW player, never played the beta, and bought SC2 the day it was released. I got to Diamond the first week of release..IMO he should already b high masters if he were a BW pro


Well, I guess diamond players are better now than back then?


if you watched his stream you can clearly see he has better mechanics than most GM players. when he learns how sc2 works he's going to be really good
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
January 29 2012 17:57 GMT
#117
For those of you who are interested in seeing some of his BW games (recent) he has a replay pack that you can check out at www.UEDGaming.com and you can really see how much potential he has, literally 300+ apm is quite amazing. He has some games vs. Sziky (undisputed #1 current Foreign player) with almost 280+ EAPM .. if you enjoy TvZ in BW def check those games out
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 29 2012 18:08 GMT
#118
On January 29 2012 18:17 MaxSC wrote:
first time i experience a pro bw player just startin and its terrifiyin the skill lvl and game sensce they posses

But the timings are different so how can he have a strong game sense?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
January 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#119
On January 30 2012 03:08 TBone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 18:17 MaxSC wrote:
first time i experience a pro bw player just startin and its terrifiyin the skill lvl and game sensce they posses

But the timings are different so how can he have a strong game sense?


compared to some random guy just starting* is a better way to put it.
rOse_PedaL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Korea (South)450 Posts
January 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#120
IMInDove
SlayerSInDove
InDovePrime
ZeNexInDove
MVPInDove
TSL_InDove
EGInDove
xSixInDove
Empire.InDove
Mouz.InDove
QxG_InDove
mTwInDove
aTnInDove
And i think that'(T)S all..
Care to take over anyone!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ MKP HWAITING ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
2025 Grand Finals Playoffs
Maru vs ReynorLIVE!
Serral vs Rogue
RotterdaM1531
ComeBackTV 1043
PiGStarcraft557
IndyStarCraft 295
BRAT_OK 194
Rex140
3DClanTV 88
IntoTheiNu 26
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #119
ByuN vs NightMareLIVE!
Creator vs Krystianer
CranKy Ducklings110
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1531
PiGStarcraft557
IndyStarCraft 295
BRAT_OK 194
Rex 140
EmSc Tv 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27091
Rain 4070
Sea 2639
Flash 1385
firebathero 1362
actioN 1307
Stork 393
Rush 337
Hyun 262
Mini 251
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 229
Last 179
EffOrt 138
Soma 83
ggaemo 67
Leta 58
ToSsGirL 56
Sharp 51
Sea.KH 42
JYJ 38
sorry 31
sSak 28
Movie 26
Shine 24
Backho 23
GoRush 19
soO 16
JulyZerg 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
yabsab 12
zelot 11
Sacsri 9
Calm 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 914
XcaliburYe305
Fuzer 226
Counter-Strike
olofmeister3305
fl0m881
x6flipin402
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King118
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor188
Other Games
singsing1437
crisheroes288
KnowMe26
B2W.Neo19
MindelVK11
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL30002
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 26
EmSc2Tv 26
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH159
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2115
League of Legends
• Jankos2551
• Stunt576
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
6h 3m
Replay Cast
12h 3m
Replay Cast
21h 3m
Wardi Open
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
OSC
1d 12h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-14
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.