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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 16 2011 17:10 GMT
#421
People are really mad on the ladder today, desRow utterly destroying them and they rage hard. It's so funny! :D
I <3 Plexa.
h34D_hUnT3R
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic10 Posts
November 16 2011 17:33 GMT
#422
I am sorry man, but you are very fat.

User was warned for this post
Rigorous
Profile Joined August 2011
74 Posts
November 16 2011 19:52 GMT
#423
Desrow,

I love watching your stream. I am a mid/high-masters on NA and really trying to get better.

Question about your PvP playstyle. I notice that you take an agressive fast expand against some opponent builds, but not others. Can you please tell me what your thought process is? When do you feel like you can safely take a fast expand?

Right now, I usually go robo tech and wait for obs to scout around 7 min before I decide to expand. However, I lose to someone that fast expanded around 5-6 min. But when I try to fast expand, I usually die to some 1 base timing / all-in...such as z/archon or an immo push. I don't get it!!! Any clues would be very much appreciated.

Thank you!!

desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 16 2011 23:30 GMT
#424
On November 17 2011 04:52 Rigorous wrote:
Desrow,

I love watching your stream. I am a mid/high-masters on NA and really trying to get better.

Question about your PvP playstyle. I notice that you take an agressive fast expand against some opponent builds, but not others. Can you please tell me what your thought process is? When do you feel like you can safely take a fast expand?

Right now, I usually go robo tech and wait for obs to scout around 7 min before I decide to expand. However, I lose to someone that fast expanded around 5-6 min. But when I try to fast expand, I usually die to some 1 base timing / all-in...such as z/archon or an immo push. I don't get it!!! Any clues would be very much appreciated.

Thank you!!



If they go robo I usually like to expand depending on the early game. If I killed more units than I lost I have a EV (google the term) and I try to expand as I think it's the better way to play. I think it would be better for you to die as you try to expand, watch replay and learn than stay on 1 base. At your level playing a lot of games won't make a difference, it needs to be efficient practice. Make sure to analyse your replays carefully and take notes if you have a shitty memory. Best of luck and thank you for respecting my "practice time" (wasn't sure how to write this but thank you for not whining about having to write on a forum or w/e i love to focus on practice =P ).
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Rigorous
Profile Joined August 2011
74 Posts
November 17 2011 19:32 GMT
#425
Drw - per the stream, please watch the replay again. in the middle of the map, you warped in z's like twice and they got kited to death. However, if you had warped in stalkers, you would have killed his army cuz your army was always bigger in those early engagements in the middle. You just got kited. My point is stalkers would have allowed you to kill that army - no stalkers are not cost efficient, but you could have outmassed him and killed his army and kept him on 1 base, while you warped in some sentry/z after you clean up. I am no expert, but when you have a birds-eye view, you can really see what would have won a game. Also, I learned the stalker thing from Huk. I've seeen him do it many times against marauders and it works in roughly even supply. Stalkers really suck when medi's hit the field, but before then I think stalkers are very viable.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#426
On November 18 2011 04:32 Rigorous wrote:
Drw - per the stream, please watch the replay again. in the middle of the map, you warped in z's like twice and they got kited to death. However, if you had warped in stalkers, you would have killed his army cuz your army was always bigger in those early engagements in the middle. You just got kited. My point is stalkers would have allowed you to kill that army - no stalkers are not cost efficient, but you could have outmassed him and killed his army and kept him on 1 base, while you warped in some sentry/z after you clean up. I am no expert, but when you have a birds-eye view, you can really see what would have won a game. Also, I learned the stalker thing from Huk. I've seeen him do it many times against marauders and it works in roughly even supply. Stalkers really suck when medi's hit the field, but before then I think stalkers are very viable.


I sent you a PM ^ _ ^
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
trivium77
Profile Joined November 2010
United States12 Posts
November 18 2011 18:02 GMT
#427
Hey Desrow, thanks for commentating while you stream. I learn and you are funny and entertaining. Keep it up!

Where can I find your PvZ build order where you attack with zealots and sentries and +1 attack or something like that?
Air4013
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States89 Posts
November 18 2011 19:58 GMT
#428
Desrow I just wanted to stop by and say you run such an excellent stream, you articulate your actions and the reasons behind them so well and thats really helpful to me personally. I think you do alot of things people wish other streamers would do as well like the commentary, always taking questions from your viewers, the camera (I loled so hard when you zoomed out and did the Sup Sons earlier), and your attitude about practice and getting better is inspiring and just great. Basically just thanking you for all you do Desrow Fighting!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#429
On November 19 2011 03:02 trivium77 wrote:
Hey Desrow, thanks for commentating while you stream. I learn and you are funny and entertaining. Keep it up!

Where can I find your PvZ build order where you attack with zealots and sentries and +1 attack or something like that?


It will be release on my youtube this week end http://youtube.com/desrowfighting
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 19 2011 05:07 GMT
#430
On November 19 2011 04:58 Air4013 wrote:
Desrow I just wanted to stop by and say you run such an excellent stream, you articulate your actions and the reasons behind them so well and thats really helpful to me personally. I think you do alot of things people wish other streamers would do as well like the commentary, always taking questions from your viewers, the camera (I loled so hard when you zoomed out and did the Sup Sons earlier), and your attitude about practice and getting better is inspiring and just great. Basically just thanking you for all you do Desrow Fighting!


<3!!
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Tubhelvete
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden3 Posts
November 21 2011 16:52 GMT
#431
Damn desRow, you forced me to create an teamliquid account just to say that, The internet and E-sports community need more ppl like you. Just watched a couple of videos on your site and i was amazed at the commitment you are showing.
Now i have a stream i have to watch everytime i'm home!
And keep the NO whine attitude!!

MENTAL FIVE DUDE keep doing what you enjoy! and hope to see more of you in the future

/from a flue infested swe watching starcraft 2

Flesh is a trap, And magic sets us free
rxpk
Profile Joined November 2011
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 19:48:12
November 21 2011 19:45 GMT
#432
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.

Edit: I made this account only to make that statement
I only to post to let you know how bad you actually are, and how your ruining esports.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#433
On November 22 2011 04:45 rxpk wrote:
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.

Edit: I made this account only to make that statement
I was banned from his stream as well, guess I won't be watching him anymore. Liquid Hero/EG Incontrol/EG Huk protoss streams hwaiting!
I <3 Plexa.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 01:39:02
November 22 2011 01:31 GMT
#434
On November 22 2011 04:45 rxpk wrote:
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.

Edit: I made this account only to make that statement

yea i was on tilt and thats really the only game i got mad about the whole day sorry and i respect your choice have a good day =)
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 22 2011 01:31 GMT
#435
On November 22 2011 05:51 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 04:45 rxpk wrote:
Very dissapointed in you, and I wanted to tell you lost a fan. "You gg'd to early =(" ya that's a really good reason to ban people from your channel, but it's apparent you don't give a damn about the people who support you.

Edit: I made this account only to make that statement
I was banned from his stream as well, guess I won't be watching him anymore. Liquid Hero/EG Incontrol/EG Huk protoss streams hwaiting!

huk/hero fighting indeed =)
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
November 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#436
Hey desrow, just wanted to say that I recently started to watch your stream and i gotta say ur a great dude. You explain a lot of things to ur viewers and what i really respect about u is that u never get really BM even when ur opponents flame u for nothing and that u are very critical about yourself and your own play. Keep it up dude, will tune in more often for sure and it was a pleasure to play you on the EU ladder btw

Oh 1 more thing, is it just me or do u have a pretty high ping when u play on the EU server? i often notice it when u change the waypoint of your nexus. I think thats one of the reasons why u do worse on EU than on NA
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#437
On November 23 2011 06:13 gosuterran wrote:
Hey desrow, just wanted to say that I recently started to watch your stream and i gotta say ur a great dude. You explain a lot of things to ur viewers and what i really respect about u is that u never get really BM even when ur opponents flame u for nothing and that u are very critical about yourself and your own play. Keep it up dude, will tune in more often for sure and it was a pleasure to play you on the EU ladder btw

Oh 1 more thing, is it just me or do u have a pretty high ping when u play on the EU server? i often notice it when u change the waypoint of your nexus. I think thats one of the reasons why u do worse on EU than on NA

i have p^roblems with my internet gonna call them today
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 23 2011 17:04 GMT
#438
LOL, desRow raging hard today on his stream after he got destroyed from NMxSigma. Calling him an all-in Terran scrub even though he was on 3 bases and did his push at 20 mins in the game with his mech. Stop making excuses and saying this game is pathetic, that's not how a pro should act.

Also please spend your 1500+ minerals and gas that you consistently stockpile because your macro can't keep up, it would help a lot in all situations you face in your games against people.
I <3 Plexa.
zine
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany67 Posts
November 23 2011 17:54 GMT
#439
its funny that he calls everybody a noob but can't win against them in macro games.. what a "pro gamer"
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 23 2011 19:04 GMT
#440
On November 24 2011 02:04 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
LOL, desRow raging hard today on his stream after he got destroyed from NMxSigma. Calling him an all-in Terran scrub even though he was on 3 bases and did his push at 20 mins in the game with his mech. Stop making excuses and saying this game is pathetic, that's not how a pro should act.

Also please spend your 1500+ minerals and gas that you consistently stockpile because your macro can't keep up, it would help a lot in all situations you face in your games against people.


Thanks for the feedback have a nice day!
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
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