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Boxxybabe
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1 Post
May 15 2011 15:02 GMT
#641
I'm a protoss player myself and I've been checking the stream out for quite some time. I love the random comments which, imo, makes no sense. Do you really believe zerg can "make whatever unit they want without scouting"?
yo
Shinzon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States41 Posts
May 15 2011 21:01 GMT
#642
*TSL spoilers if you care about that sort of thing...*




So orb.. I just watched the grand final of TSL. It was PvT. I didn't see how naniwa got up 3-1, but the terran, thorzain, came back to win 4-3. All I saw in those games was him going mass marauder and ghosts with vikings and medivac. Ghosts with EMP literally gimped the toss army for his maruaders to clean up. It was a fucking joke. Pretty much as soon as terran got ghosts the game was over. High templar would not have helped. I don't even think naniwa tried to get them, he probably thinks they are useless too.

Really can't stand how EMP has always just been there for terran. No research or anything for it. They just need to tech to ghosts and they magically have it. And ghosts are also more gas efficient now. Like terran needed that right?
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 16 2011 02:06 GMT
#643
Did you see the reasons blizzard gave for changing the ghost cost?

They didn't say the ghost cost too much or that it wasn't good enough for the cost, they said they wanted to see it more in all 3 matchups...

really?

So even if it's fucking amazing, because players don't use it enough (cause they're too busy using just the marauder/marine since they're so ez to win with) they lower to cost?

Protoss players don't use carriers enough, how about they lower the price of the carrier to 300/200? How about they lower the mothership cost to 200/200?

Blizzard is so dumb with their "balance" decisions it's unreal
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
StrangrDangr
Profile Joined March 2011
United States291 Posts
May 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#644
So I have been using your charge-lot archon build in pvp and havn't lost a ladder match with it yet. When I was using it today 2 people asked me if I was using the "Orb Build." Well... thanks for the build and the amazing win percentage you have been giving me.
"I'm on four gates, so technically if I don't win there is something wrong with this game." desrow
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 16 2011 06:20 GMT
#645
On May 16 2011 12:39 StrangrDangr wrote:
So I have been using your charge-lot archon build in pvp and havn't lost a ladder match with it yet. When I was using it today 2 people asked me if I was using the "Orb Build." Well... thanks for the build and the amazing win percentage you have been giving me.


No problem, enjoy!

Funny (and nice) to hear it called that LOL

I assumed everyone would follow the trend of assuming artosis invented it (which couldn't be farther from the truth haha)
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
dafnay
Profile Joined May 2010
Angola375 Posts
May 16 2011 07:26 GMT
#646
Im very interested in using an archon-speedzealot build but cant figure out a proper BO that resist to early 4gates that are still dominant...
Maybe something with 3gates to hold early pressure , then when you are safe just add a twilight council to get charge , but I still wonder if you should tech to DTs or HTs , maybe it depends if the enemy is going robo or blink...
Also taking a gaz can be a good idea to force a 4gate and cancel/delay DT's.
Can someone detail your orb's build?
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 16 2011 07:41 GMT
#647
Here's the basics off the top of my head (aka no food counts)

If you scout your opponent going 4gate (aka saved up chrono, no double gas) you take your second gas, get a second and third gateway, and keep constant probe production. Save chrono until core finishes and use on pumping sentries. Get warp gate tech researching too (don't bother chronoing it, you can beat it with the improved sentry build time and it's better to chrono those imo). Depending on how commited I think my opponent will get with the 4gate I usually get ~4-6 sentries. After I ahve that many I pump pure zealots from my warpgates and start the twilight as soon as you have the gas once your sentries are built. Watch the ramp and be ready to force field... if you miss you will probably lose. Position units near edges of the cliff to hit any warping in pylons. You should always be able to hit them with the new radius. Chrono charge asap and keep pumping zealots. Get Templar Archives, then build archon from two templar. Once charge is done and you have an archon you should be able to bust the contain the 4gate will do on you once the initial attack fails. Use the archon to break FFs and use the chargezealots to demolish everything in sight.

It's a lot easier when your opponent isn't 4 gating so you don't have that FF miss = loss risk in the early game.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
dafnay
Profile Joined May 2010
Angola375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 10:23:33
May 16 2011 10:18 GMT
#648
ineed that sounds interesting , the main problem may be your opponent rushing to DTs since you have any robo and Im not sure if your charge+archon finishes before your opponent reaches that tech If only you can hit a timing before that it can be nice ( maybe placing a forge before ur push so that he cant destroy your probes and you can do some damage in his base even without any obs )
I played some ladder and since the patch DTs became very popular in PVP (mid master lvl)

Or even include a forge as a total part of your build and a default canon so you can hit a +1 attack timing which can be huge in pvp..
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 16 2011 11:54 GMT
#649
Yeah what I just listed is only if you see your opponent going 4gate.

You play it completely differently if you see them go other builds

specifically added forge vs dt (don't forget u can attack shit with archons and do splash to dts though, very useful sometimes), added stargate pumping phoenixes vs heavy colossus builds, and stargate(s) pumping phoenixes vs mass air
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
May 21 2011 14:55 GMT
#650
Why can't I change the quality? My banana internet connection can only support up to 480 hardly.
oh, hai
StrangrDangr
Profile Joined March 2011
United States291 Posts
May 22 2011 03:25 GMT
#651
On May 21 2011 23:55 HornyHerring wrote:
Why can't I change the quality? My banana internet connection can only support up to 480 hardly.

He just got a partnership a few days ago, you should be able to change the quality now.
"I'm on four gates, so technically if I don't win there is something wrong with this game." desrow
drevil69
Profile Joined May 2011
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 13:23:21
May 25 2011 13:22 GMT
#652
this guy is very bad mannered, he insults his opponents all the time, i wonder why someone like him gets featured. he told one opponent: "your mom molested you when you were young". if i was blizzard i would ban people like him permanently.
Speshal tectics!
Monarch.StarCrack
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States169 Posts
May 25 2011 13:50 GMT
#653
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@HearthstoneOpen twitter
Lingy
Profile Joined December 2010
England201 Posts
May 25 2011 16:35 GMT
#654
Hey orb what is the playlist you are playing today?
Early morning streaming ftw <3
Hydraliskuuuuhh
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
May 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#655
Why is this kid featured? Some random mid-master NA Protoss who misreads his opponent 90% of the time then rages hard when he loses and insults his opponents and his viewers instead of trying to learn and get better.
My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
May 25 2011 17:52 GMT
#656
This guy is terrible.
Feature this crap? Orb learn to articulate better "...the universe is so infinitely large I can't comprehend [pause] people are so stupid." What does that have to do with the universe size? And stop throwing buzz words in your dialogue to make yourself sound intellectual; infact, you just sound like a nonsensical kid who thinks he is enlightened - take the microphone away and the gaming.
One less viewer.
How much better to get wisdom than gold; to get insight rather than silver!
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
May 25 2011 17:55 GMT
#657
ignore the haters orb. why do you live with so much expensive paintings?
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 19:13:07
May 25 2011 19:04 GMT
#658
I enjoy Orb's stream but the mods are banning a lot of people from chat for almost no reason.
On other streams I got banned only once (in ~2 months) and now I got banned on Orb's chat because I complained about moderators.
We can't discuss balance, we can't argue with other people in chat, we can't say anything bad about Orb's play, etc. etc.
Also slow mode is almost always enabled even if the chat isn't moving fast.

Orb please get some better mods who don't get mad so easily and start banning everyone for no reason ... this only encourages people to troll more or not watch your stream anymore.

Edit: just got perma-banned by sztanpet for this post. Oh well ... minus one viewer I guess.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 25 2011 19:17 GMT
#659
On May 26 2011 02:52 SirPinky wrote:
This guy is terrible.
Feature this crap? Orb learn to articulate better "...the universe is so infinitely large I can't comprehend [pause] people are so stupid." What does that have to do with the universe size? And stop throwing buzz words in your dialogue to make yourself sound intellectual; infact, you just sound like a nonsensical kid who thinks he is enlightened - take the microphone away and the gaming.
One less viewer.


I don't know why I even bother replying to idiots like you that completely misconstrue everything I say and blatantly lie making up quotes for me, but...

this last streaming session I hadn't slept in 36 hours; don't be so quick to judge just based on one streaming session when I'd been up all night since the previous day...
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Shinzon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States41 Posts
May 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#660
You have to realize how many trolls orb gets in his chat. Probably more than most because they expect him to rage and yell at them. It gets the trolls off for some reason. Sorry if you got banned for a stupid reason.

I've only ever seen slowmode on today. And orb had 1k+ viewers which is the most I've seen him have since he's been back streaming. If I'm around modding I won't have it on unless there is excessive trolling or the chat is moving too fast. I wasn't around today until he was almost done streaming. There were also some new mods I didn't recognize. The ones I know of know to ban the right people.

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