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On May 31 2010 07:59 Newblish wrote:
Anyway, dont want to get banned for "flaming" but i was originally just annoyed that I(along with my friends) were called cheesers when we had normal openings and understand how gameflow works(unlike this orb guy and his allies).
So ill leave it at that. I dont play sc1 or 2 much at all these days so i honestly dont care about a grudge match because there is no need for one. But i am certainly up for another chance to "cheese"(normal 2 gate and 10 pool) this guy in 2v2 or 3v3 again if he wishes for fun. I'm just sticking up for my friends and I ultimately.. dont like when there are like 600+ viewers(alot of the TL community) hearing this clown say we are newbie cheesers when he is just a retard and doesnt understand how gameflow works and how our builds are not a simple all or nothing build.
Double 10pool + 2gate is cheese no matter what way you look at it.
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yeah, probably shouldnt bother wasting my time with people who play 16 hours a day and still suck :p
gl hf!
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On May 31 2010 10:31 -orb- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 07:59 Newblish wrote:
Anyway, dont want to get banned for "flaming" but i was originally just annoyed that I(along with my friends) were called cheesers when we had normal openings and understand how gameflow works(unlike this orb guy and his allies).
So ill leave it at that. I dont play sc1 or 2 much at all these days so i honestly dont care about a grudge match because there is no need for one. But i am certainly up for another chance to "cheese"(normal 2 gate and 10 pool) this guy in 2v2 or 3v3 again if he wishes for fun. I'm just sticking up for my friends and I ultimately.. dont like when there are like 600+ viewers(alot of the TL community) hearing this clown say we are newbie cheesers when he is just a retard and doesnt understand how gameflow works and how our builds are not a simple all or nothing build. Double 10pool + 2gate is cheese no matter what way you look at it. Go away
Feel free to play us again whenever, easy points are always appreciated. Did you guys come from WOW or something? No one with a decent amount of BW experience would play so stupidly greedy in a 3on3.
There is absolutely nothing "cheesy" about what we did. The early aggression almost always deals enough damage to account for our economic sacrifice. It's also a free win against crappy players who avoid building non-worker units like the plague.
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On June 01 2010 05:18 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2010 10:31 -orb- wrote:On May 31 2010 07:59 Newblish wrote:
Anyway, dont want to get banned for "flaming" but i was originally just annoyed that I(along with my friends) were called cheesers when we had normal openings and understand how gameflow works(unlike this orb guy and his allies).
So ill leave it at that. I dont play sc1 or 2 much at all these days so i honestly dont care about a grudge match because there is no need for one. But i am certainly up for another chance to "cheese"(normal 2 gate and 10 pool) this guy in 2v2 or 3v3 again if he wishes for fun. I'm just sticking up for my friends and I ultimately.. dont like when there are like 600+ viewers(alot of the TL community) hearing this clown say we are newbie cheesers when he is just a retard and doesnt understand how gameflow works and how our builds are not a simple all or nothing build. Double 10pool + 2gate is cheese no matter what way you look at it. Go away Feel free to play us again whenever, easy points are always appreciated. Did you guys come from WOW or something? No one with a decent amount of BW experience would play so stupidly greedy in a 3on3. There is absolutely nothing "cheesy" about what we did. The early aggression almost always deals enough damage to account for our economic sacrifice. It's also a free win against crappy players who avoid building non-worker units like the plague.
We fuck around in 3v3 because no one cares and it isn't a competitive environment.
If you want to be competitive go play 1v1. "no one with a decent amount of BW experience would play so stupidly greedy" lol? It's called no one cares about 3v3. 1v1 is all that matters. You guys can have fun pretending to be better than us because you try hard in 3v3 tho.
As for the accusations that I play 16 hours a week... I have a full time 40+ hours/week job, so nice try. I hardly play anymore.
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In 3v3 I wouldn't really call 10 pools and 2 gates cheese, but it's very aggressive. If you need to use that aggressive of an opening build order in order for your 3v3 team to win then you are similar to cheesers in 1v1.
Also telling someone they suck never gets a point across fyi.
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On June 01 2010 07:41 micronesia wrote:
In 3v3 I wouldn't really call 10 pools and 2 gates cheese, but it's very aggressive. If you need to use that aggressive of an opening build order in order for your 3v3 team to win then you are similar to cheesers in 1v1.
Also telling someone they suck never gets a point across fyi.
Does dismissing a very strong opening as "cheese" get a point across? How about calling someone older than you a "kid?"
You also threw the word "need" senselessly in there. We don't "need" to play aggressively, it just so happens to be the quickest way to get past all the horrible teams at the bottom of a diamond division. It took us about three hours over two days to get into the top five, because each game lasts no more than 10 minutes. With that said, it's an extremely strong opening even against good opponents.
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On June 01 2010 09:02 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 07:41 micronesia wrote:
In 3v3 I wouldn't really call 10 pools and 2 gates cheese, but it's very aggressive. If you need to use that aggressive of an opening build order in order for your 3v3 team to win then you are similar to cheesers in 1v1.
Also telling someone they suck never gets a point across fyi. Does dismissing a very strong opening as "cheese" get a point across? How about calling someone older than you a "kid?" You also threw the word "need" senselessly in there. We don't "need" to play aggressively, it just so happens to be the quickest way to get past all the horrible teams at the bottom of a diamond division. It took us about three hours over two days to get into the top five, because each game lasts no more than 10 minutes. With that said, it's an extremely strong opening even against good opponents.
I wasn't talking to you. You are getting very defensive though which says something. I think everything I said stands generally.
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On June 01 2010 09:19 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 09:02 city42 wrote:On June 01 2010 07:41 micronesia wrote:
In 3v3 I wouldn't really call 10 pools and 2 gates cheese, but it's very aggressive. If you need to use that aggressive of an opening build order in order for your 3v3 team to win then you are similar to cheesers in 1v1.
Also telling someone they suck never gets a point across fyi. Does dismissing a very strong opening as "cheese" get a point across? How about calling someone older than you a "kid?" You also threw the word "need" senselessly in there. We don't "need" to play aggressively, it just so happens to be the quickest way to get past all the horrible teams at the bottom of a diamond division. It took us about three hours over two days to get into the top five, because each game lasts no more than 10 minutes. With that said, it's an extremely strong opening even against good opponents. I wasn't talking to you. You are getting very defensive though which says something. I think everything I said stands generally.
All I'm here to say is that there's nothing do-or-die about the "2x 10 pool, 2 gate" strategy we used. If restating a fact makes me very defensive, then consider me very defensive.
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why don't you 1v1 anymore?
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did orb completly stop 1v1? everytime he's on its 4v4 or some other boring stuff : (
not that i blame him tho given the current state of how horrible toss is
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if he's like me he doesn't 1v1 because 3v3 and ums and shit is more fun when u know the beta is ending in like a week
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that really dosen't make sense cause the beta was going to end anyway so what is the point to 1v1 in the first place?
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On May 03 2010 07:06 GreasedScotsman wrote:
orb, can you post the details of your streaming setup? The vidcap hardware you use, use of FME, etc.?
Thanks!
Did he post this anywhere? I tried streaming myself with "Ustream Producer Pro" (for "HD" video) and it was an epic failure. The stream had major issues with flickering and the quality was much worse.
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Saw Orb playing some cool looking sniper game on the stream last night, can anyone recall the name of the map? Really want to try it out.
You started out with a command center where you could upgrade your Ghost in all sorts of ways and stuff
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On June 02 2010 01:28 Ravn.ravn wrote:
Saw Orb playing some cool looking sniper game on the stream last night, can anyone recall the name of the map? Really want to try it out.
You started out with a command center where you could upgrade your Ghost in all sorts of ways and stuff
Sniper Wars.
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Orb you are a baller, yay SC2 is back up.
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There you go orb
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Orb FTW! beta's back up! =)
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orb needs to eat something, toothpick arms
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GGs tonight it was fun to watch!
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