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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
July 01 2016 10:22 GMT
#1881
The "hate" portugal gets and deserves is because of the things were said by Ronaldo after the Iceland game. They at least won some games compared to portugal. People expect a lot more from a team of high paid players and "the best player in the world right now" and they didnt deliver much.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 01 2016 10:46 GMT
#1882
On July 01 2016 19:06 shell wrote:
The hate on Portuguese team and Ronaldo keeps growing..

If you have seen all of our games you should admit that we have played better then Island, Hungary and Austria.. We draw those games because we didn't manage to score goals.. but we clearly had way more chances to score and played better then our opponents.

Croatia vs Portugal we played better then them but it was a game where both teams didn't want to risk it and the midfields cancel each other out..

Pt vs Poland was a much better game then vs Croatia.. we also had more chances then them and a clear penalty.. They played good and so did we..

Ronaldo played great, he defended, he pressured and played with his teammates but he failed to score 2/3 times that he usually always scores..

Ronaldo without a true PL has a much harder time on the pitch but he is doing his best !

Go Portugal make us proud .. two more draws and we are champions :D

Ronaldo played great? He fucked up the five or so balls he got that could have been potential goals
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 10:54:57
July 01 2016 10:50 GMT
#1883
On July 01 2016 19:06 shell wrote:
The hate on Portuguese team and Ronaldo keeps growing..

If you have seen all of our games you should admit that we have played better then Island, Hungary and Austria.. We draw those games because we didn't manage to score goals.. but we clearly had way more chances to score and played better then our opponents.

Croatia vs Portugal we played better then them but it was a game where both teams didn't want to risk it and the midfields cancel each other out..

Pt vs Poland was a much better game then vs Croatia.. we also had more chances then them and a clear penalty.. They played good and so did we..

Ronaldo played great, he defended, he pressured and played with his teammates but he failed to score 2/3 times that he usually always scores..

Ronaldo without a true PL has a much harder time on the pitch but he is doing his best !

Go Portugal make us proud .. two more draws and we are champions :D

Poland played better than you and so did Croatia. How can you even think the opposite, Ronaldo looked like he was going to cry every time the camera was on him. Poland was embarrassing you're defense. I got to find that clip where poland was stringing 5-6 passes through your defense. You didn't deserve a penalty and your goal was a very lucky deflection. Portugal doesn't deserve to be in the semis and will be crushed by Belgium if they show up bringing this same performance. Anyways enjoy one more game.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 01 2016 10:53 GMT
#1884
Just because he didn't score doesn't make him the worst player on pitch..

It's like half the argentinians when talking about Messi.. when they win and he scores, messi is the best and a god.. when he doesn't score and they lose.. he doesn't care.. etc..

Ronaldo is the best player in a good team but with clear problems, lack of quality Striker and a forward presence, poor left and right backs.. etc.

Ronaldo yesterday even pressured the defense, had a 84%(or something) passing accuracy..

If Portugal wins and most of the time is with Ronaldo's goals he is the best.. if we lose he sucks!

Truth is.. we are better with Ronaldo then without him
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 01 2016 10:57 GMT
#1885
On July 01 2016 19:50 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 19:06 shell wrote:
The hate on Portuguese team and Ronaldo keeps growing..

If you have seen all of our games you should admit that we have played better then Island, Hungary and Austria.. We draw those games because we didn't manage to score goals.. but we clearly had way more chances to score and played better then our opponents.

Croatia vs Portugal we played better then them but it was a game where both teams didn't want to risk it and the midfields cancel each other out..

Pt vs Poland was a much better game then vs Croatia.. we also had more chances then them and a clear penalty.. They played good and so did we..

Ronaldo played great, he defended, he pressured and played with his teammates but he failed to score 2/3 times that he usually always scores..

Ronaldo without a true PL has a much harder time on the pitch but he is doing his best !

Go Portugal make us proud .. two more draws and we are champions :D

Poland played better than you and so did Croatia. How can you even think the opposite? Poland was embarrassing you're defense. I got to find that clip where poland was stringing 5-6 passes through your defense. You didn't deserve a penalty and your goal was a very lucky deflection. Portugal doesn't deserve to be in the semis and will be crushed by Belgium if they show up bringing this same performance. Anyways enjoy one more game.


Sorry i don't agree with you, we played better and the referee missed that clear penalty.

Hate on us and cheer against us all you want but you don't have to lie !

Croatia played like shit and so did we.. but we won deal with it!

Wait so our goal was a luck deflection and Poland's goal wasn't lucky? Cedric failed that intersection and that wasn't lucky?
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 01 2016 10:58 GMT
#1886
On July 01 2016 19:57 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 19:50 nitram wrote:
On July 01 2016 19:06 shell wrote:
The hate on Portuguese team and Ronaldo keeps growing..

If you have seen all of our games you should admit that we have played better then Island, Hungary and Austria.. We draw those games because we didn't manage to score goals.. but we clearly had way more chances to score and played better then our opponents.

Croatia vs Portugal we played better then them but it was a game where both teams didn't want to risk it and the midfields cancel each other out..

Pt vs Poland was a much better game then vs Croatia.. we also had more chances then them and a clear penalty.. They played good and so did we..

Ronaldo played great, he defended, he pressured and played with his teammates but he failed to score 2/3 times that he usually always scores..

Ronaldo without a true PL has a much harder time on the pitch but he is doing his best !

Go Portugal make us proud .. two more draws and we are champions :D

Poland played better than you and so did Croatia. How can you even think the opposite? Poland was embarrassing you're defense. I got to find that clip where poland was stringing 5-6 passes through your defense. You didn't deserve a penalty and your goal was a very lucky deflection. Portugal doesn't deserve to be in the semis and will be crushed by Belgium if they show up bringing this same performance. Anyways enjoy one more game.


Sorry i don't agree with you, we played better and the referee missed that clear penalty.

Hate on us and cheer against us all you want but you don't have to lie !

Croatia played like shit and so did we.. but we won deal with it!

Wait so our goal was a luck deflection and Poland's goal wasn't lucky? Cedric failed that intersection and that wasn't lucky?

Well you see, getting a LUCKY deflection is LUCKY. Your player fucking up isn't lucky, its just your player fucking up.

Hope that clears things up!
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 11:01:40
July 01 2016 10:59 GMT
#1887
Cedric failing to intercept the ball was a mistake and poland took advantage out of that, the pass and the shot were perfect.
The goal portugal scored was luck because the ball was deflected. If you don't see the difference in that I completely understand why you think you were better than croatia and poland :D


edit: Ronaldo didnt play bad because he didnt shot that goals, he played bad because of the way he completely failed on the attempts. You can expect a lot more of a player that says of himself that he is better than everyone else.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 01 2016 11:01 GMT
#1888
Ronaldo could have had about 10 goals to be honest and you could argue he could actually be tired this tournament as he didn't end the Real Madrid season in full health. The chances he missed vs Poland alone were bankers you would have put him scoring before hand, same in other games too. However Portugal still managed to win and vs Poland they actually dominated the ball even though they failed to take chances. Game vs Croatia was just poor all round and the games in the group game well haha they were great fun

Still they are in the semi finals and no other team is at the moment so you can't do anything but admit they are there for a reason i guess.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 11:07:15
July 01 2016 11:05 GMT
#1889
On July 01 2016 19:59 gTank wrote:
Cedric failing to intercept the ball was a mistake and poland took advantage out of that, the pass and the shot were perfect.
The goal portugal scored was luck because the ball was deflected. If you don't see the difference in that I completely understand why you think you were better than croatia and poland :D


edit: Ronaldo didnt play bad because he didnt shot that goals, he played bad because of the way he completely failed on the attempts. You can expect a lot more of a player that says of himself that he is better than everyone else.


But they did get the attempts.
I agree Portugal played better than Poland.
I also agree Portugal's goal was lucky.
These 2 events are not mutually exclusive

If we just look at statistics, Portugal had more corners (7 to 2), more total attempts (21 to 14), more "dangerous attacks" - whatever that is.

Passing accuracy and ball possession was pretty even.

Portugal played better.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 01 2016 11:09 GMT
#1890
On July 01 2016 20:01 Pandemona wrote:
Ronaldo could have had about 10 goals to be honest and you could argue he could actually be tired this tournament as he didn't end the Real Madrid season in full health. The chances he missed vs Poland alone were bankers you would have put him scoring before hand, same in other games too. However Portugal still managed to win and vs Poland they actually dominated the ball even though they failed to take chances. Game vs Croatia was just poor all round and the games in the group game well haha they were great fun

Still they are in the semi finals and no other team is at the moment so you can't do anything but admit they are there for a reason i guess.


That is a balanced view that can get behind...

I don't really care what anyone says about Portugal team, you are not worse then all the critics we have at home, believe me no one is bashing this team more then Portuguese people!

Things turn out great for this team.. I think we have a great chance to go to the final againt wales/belgium but Germany/Italy are too much for a team that lacks so much!

The biggest problem is with the lack of fluid play because João Mario and André play out of position and without a clear forward Ronaldo is not so effective..

if he scored on changes that he normally doesn't fail.. we would have won almost all the games
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
July 01 2016 11:11 GMT
#1891
The attempts don't say that much, the shots on target were the same (5).
At least read all the stats, not only the ones you want
Don't see how they played "better".

Besides, a team that cant win against austria doesn't deserve it to win the EC anyway (not so serious).
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 01 2016 11:14 GMT
#1892
Nice cherry picking with the stats. Also "dangerous attacks" is kind of up to the individual. I would say Poland had more dangerous attacks.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 01 2016 11:21 GMT
#1893
(Wiki)
On July 01 2016 20:14 nitram wrote:
Nice cherry picking with the stats. Also "dangerous attacks" is kind of up to the individual. I would say Poland had more dangerous attacks.


Of course you would and you even dismiss a clear penalty !

Whatever dude.. we won! Deal with it
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 11:24:24
July 01 2016 11:23 GMT
#1894
What cherry picking?

I took them from this site:

www.uefa.com

You can click stats for more. On target is 6-5 for PT, still the better side.
I can't comprehend how you can say Poland played better, they were nowhere after that initial goal.
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 01 2016 11:23 GMT
#1895
On July 01 2016 20:21 shell wrote:
(Wiki)
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 20:14 nitram wrote:
Nice cherry picking with the stats. Also "dangerous attacks" is kind of up to the individual. I would say Poland had more dangerous attacks.


Of course you would and you even dismiss a clear penalty !

Whatever dude.. we won! Deal with it

Yeah gj! Feel proud that you shouldn't have even gotten a chance to play against Poland and somehow you made it to the semi's.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
July 01 2016 11:28 GMT
#1896
Portugal was very unlucky in group stages but it works out in the knock-outs :D

Good side of bracket and luck in the knock-out rounds where it matters most.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 01 2016 11:36 GMT
#1897
On July 01 2016 20:23 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 20:21 shell wrote:
(Wiki)
On July 01 2016 20:14 nitram wrote:
Nice cherry picking with the stats. Also "dangerous attacks" is kind of up to the individual. I would say Poland had more dangerous attacks.


Of course you would and you even dismiss a clear penalty !

Whatever dude.. we won! Deal with it

Yeah gj! Feel proud that you shouldn't have even gotten a chance to play against Poland and somehow you made it to the semi's.


Yes, i do feel proud! Why shouldn't we feel proud?

Did we cheat? did we do anything against the rules?

We did our best and our best, lucky or not, made us reach the semis!

Bring it on Wales and Belgium
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 01 2016 11:40 GMT
#1898
Yo if you are facing Wales in the semi final i am done with this world xD
Fkn Wales, good god if Belgium can't beat them T_T
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 01 2016 11:42 GMT
#1899
Why? Wales being the pride of Great Britain should be the toughest possible opponent they could face in Pandeworld, no?
I'm confused!
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
July 01 2016 11:43 GMT
#1900
On July 01 2016 20:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yo if you are facing Wales in the semi final i am done with this world xD
Fkn Wales, good god if Belgium can't beat them T_T


Well I've got some bad news dude, our defence is terrible, and has never played together, not even during practice. (Vertonghen sprained his ankle in the last minute of yesterday's training)

Our midfield is still fine. They'll probably be told to play extra defensively.
It'll be a boring game with few chances I fear. Extra time and penalties is likely imo.
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