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[TSL] Day 4 Preview

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Sunday March 27th 18:00 GMT (+00:00)


I'm typing this report from deep inside my TSL bunker; lodged in the trunk of a redwood that has been standing since the invention of the incandescent light bulb. Thanks to Teamliquid's wall-to-wall TSL coverage, I have adequate reading material, but appear to be running low on food and water. This is probably could've been avoided, but my nervous snacking last week was so ferocious, than I eventually blacked out for several hours and woke up to find several jars of lingonberry jam smashed on the floor and my entire supply of borscht splatted across the walls. So I'm sending this preview out as a call for help. Those of you who know my location, or can decipher the code threaded through this newspost; please, send me food, I can't leave, it's all too exciting.


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IdrA is the favorite. His GSL experience and long Sc2 pedigree afford him that. But a worthy question is; by how much?

Idra's macro remains one of the best among foreigners and now that he is back in the United States, he has new access to practice partners which should be beef up his chances to make a deep run in the TSL. His confidence will also be an asset in the later rounds. Yet this is an extremely dangerous match for IdrA, and whether he feels this is an open question. In his TSL interview he called his opening round match a 'walkover' and predicted that his opponent would four gate twice. Unless Idra is tapping into mindgaming reserves he was previously unknown to have, it is reasonable to call into question his preparation and mindset for this opening match. He'll need both. Since unexpectedly taking the third TLOpen as an unknown, CrunCher has established himself as a force to be reckoned with, holding onto "the V" weekly showmatch title against players like PainUser and Sjow, performing decently in the Justin.tv Invite in which he lost 2-1 to Idra, and going on a strong run in the recent FXOpen Invitational. Indeed, every time I watch CrunCher play, he has gotten significantly better. He plays a number of diverse styles, and seems comfortable in a variety of situations. That this match will be closer than many expect is a given, but what the result will be is mere speculation, at least for now.

Bracket Contest: At the end of the Harry Potter series, Dumbledore explains to Harry what Voldemort's weakness has always been. "Of house-elves and children's tales, of love, loyalty, and innocence, Voldemort knows and understands nothing." Dumbledore says. IdrA, despite his physical resemblance to the hero of that series, takes after the villain of those books in mentality. In the brutal language of macro and mechanics, IdrA holds an edge. But he has been undone in the past by intangibles that he does not understand, and this will happen again in this series. CrunCher is a creative and dedicated opponent, who will defy being underestimated. CrunCher will win.

Bracket Stat: IdrA picked in 94.1% of all brackets. (2131 to 133)




[image loading] [image loading] Empire.Kas vs. TLAF-Liquid'HayprO [image loading] [image loading]

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I've been both looking forward to and dreading this series ever since it was drawn. I would've loved to see both of these players in the Round of 16. Instead, thanks to the cruel parity of the TSL, we see them in the opening round. This may be the closest match of the TSL yet. Kas has been one of the most consistently devastating players in the foreigner scene since his qualification. Although he has not won any major tournaments, he has routinely been in the conversation, and can take down anybody. His opponent is HayprO, one of the few three time TSL participants, who has been training in Korea for as long as Jinro. His participation on the foreigner circuit has been sparse, but he has performed well in his few opportunities, and recently took a showmatch at PAX East against his fellow TL players. His experience on the big stage, and practice in the best conditions make him a serious threat.

Bracket Contest: .HayprO's best MU is ZvT while Kas claims TvZ as a weakness (despite it being his best MU statistically). The persistent problem of Europe having a lack of depth in zerg may prove a factor here, as HayprO's skills rank among the best of Europeans. Kas is one of the scariest foreigners in the game, but HayprO's mammoth training and experience will prove too great of a burden to bear for the Ukrainian, and Sweden will see another entry into the tournament proper.

Bracket Stat: Kas picked in exactly 2 more brackets than HayprO (1626 to 1624) (!!!)




[image loading] [image loading] MYM.Mondragon vs. ZeeRax
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Anything can happen here, and I mean that in the most positive possible way. Both Mondragon and ZeeraX are huge enigmas even for the most dedicated of Sc2 Europe watchers. We know both of these guys are RTS veterans. We know both are really nice guys. We know both of these guys are good, but the ultimate answer remains elusive. Just how good?

Mondragon is the bigger black box of the two. When he was first announced as a TSL seed, community origins became apparent as a whole host of people asked; "Who?". But Mondragon is a legend, and legends never die. He maintained a position among the top foreign BW players for a decade. His team; ToT) saw almost every great European player pass through its ranks. Respected as a brilliant tactician, Mondragon was well known for going 'inactive' for spells of time, after which he'd wreck everyone as though he had been secretly practicing the whole time. Meanwhile, ZeeraX hails from just as far back. Initially a BW player, he moved to Wc3 and had a substantial amount of success before moving back to Sc2, maintaining a high ladder placement, and qualifying for the TSL; his most impressive performance to date. His style is consistent and reliable, but perhaps easy to anticipate.

Bracket Contest: How does one pick a battle of unknowns? I know that Zeerax is the more practiced and polished player in this series. His TLOpen performances were impressive and his experience will be vital. Yet I know enough to never, ever count out Mondragon. I would hesitate before picking Na'Vi over Mondi in a 5v1 CS battle. So who will take this? I have no idea, and I'm too much of a coward to commit. Brain says Zeerax, heart says Mondi.

Bracket Stat: Mondragon picked in 65.3% of brackets. (2119 to 1126)




[image loading] [image loading] oGs.NaDa vs. TLAF-Liquid'TLO [image loading] [image loading]

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NaDa, the Genius Terran, versus the ever unorthodox and crowd-pleasing TLO. For 10,436 of you, this is your most anticipated matchup - a good choice, I have to say. TLO has said publicly that he will be playing Terran against NaDa. I, and I think many others, see TvT as TLO's best matchup. NaDa, one of GSL March's quarter-finalists, is of course solid in every matchup. To be sure, either player could win the TSL, but most wouldn't call them favorites. Much of the cause for excitement, then, lies with the players themselves.

First known for inducing heart attacks and epiphanies with the craziest strategies, TLO has remained a fan favorite through the months. With the influx of new talent and personalities to the scene, however, some of his stardom has faded. In the beginning of January TLO won the stacked PokerIdol tournament. It was his first major win since September. Now in the TSL, many will be watching TLO not only to see if he wins, but to see how he plays and if he can still capture our hearts and imaginations. We are all TLO fans, but some of us might need a reminder. I have no doubt that this Saturday will have the series we have all been waiting for. NaDa, on the other hand, is untouchable. No one (no one worth noting, anyways) doubts his skill and his fame is Bonjwa level. Whenever this guy touches a keyboard, nerds get goosebumps.

Bracket Contest: TLO is no longer the new kid on the block. His reputation for being unorthodox is shared now by many other players and it's questionable whether he can bring something new to the table and surprise NaDa. That said, I don't think he has to. TLO has a very solid late-game and TvT just fits him so well. He can definitely win by simply following a strategy through to the end and outclassing NaDa. It should be remembered, however, that TLO recently lost in the GCPL 2-0 to Fenix in TvTs. Only two games, but this were important matches. Still, my prediction is that TLO will take it - I think he wants it more.

Bracket Stat: NaDa picked in 66.5% of all brackets. (2147 to 1083)




Cheerfuls !

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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
March 27 2011 03:45 GMT
#2
Hype hype , hopefully a great day with epic games and lag post free forum! TLO HWAITING
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 27 2011 03:45 GMT
#3
idra haypro mondragon tlo fighting!!!
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 27 2011 03:47 GMT
#4
Good writeup. The TL bias oozes out of this post but I like it nonetheless
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
March 27 2011 03:48 GMT
#5
TLO FIGHTING!!!!!!
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
March 27 2011 03:49 GMT
#6
I am so anxious and nervous for Idra vs Cruncher.

Not only would my bracket be destroyed if cruncher wins, but I would be a sad panda.

Can't wait to see the games :D.
Discount_Glowstix
Profile Joined January 2011
42 Posts
March 27 2011 03:50 GMT
#7
These matches are going to be very interesting. Cant wait to see Kas and Mondragon in action! Nada vs TLO is a must see!!!!!!
Toshihito_TL
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia145 Posts
March 27 2011 03:50 GMT
#8
Go Mondy! Pull out the upsets!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 27 2011 03:52 GMT
#9
Wow, this will be the most intense day yet!

Also, Riptide- what are you doing to your writers o.O
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
March 27 2011 03:54 GMT
#10
1626 - 1624. Sick!!
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
March 27 2011 03:56 GMT
#11
So Idra will be undone by the power of love? Interesting. Seems plausible.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
March 27 2011 03:56 GMT
#12
GO ZeeRax!!!!

CrunCher will 2-0 IdrA so easily we'll all be scratching our heads.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
March 27 2011 04:01 GMT
#13
EPIC!!!! CrunCher vs IdrA and TLO vs NaDa!!!! HYPE!!!! :D
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
March 27 2011 04:02 GMT
#14
Hopefully haypro vs kas is as close as the voting was.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 27 2011 04:03 GMT
#15
Idra will win 2-0

Go idra go!!
MLQ10
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada40 Posts
March 27 2011 04:04 GMT
#16
When TLO and Nada face off the servers will crash. Two of my favorite players, hopefully we get some awesome games.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
March 27 2011 04:06 GMT
#17
i'm actually so scared Idra will lose..

cruncher is exactly the kind of guy idra loses to!

release the gracken!
Kontemptuous
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia132 Posts
March 27 2011 04:07 GMT
#18
That HP reference, haha! Go IdrA!
Zerg walks into a bar, sees the counter - and leaves.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
March 27 2011 04:11 GMT
#19
kas vs haypro is gonna be one of the best series in the ro32 without a doubt, while it will be close i hope hayder can take this one, his ZvT has looked good as of late.

haypro hwaiting<3
Team NSHoseo <3
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
March 27 2011 04:16 GMT
#20
I may call in sick tomorrow...
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
Popcorn1
Profile Joined August 2010
United States92 Posts
March 27 2011 04:17 GMT
#21
Can we get more cheerfuls of cruncher pls lol
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SeraKuDA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada343 Posts
March 27 2011 04:18 GMT
#22
If these matches are half as good as the ones today I'll be jacked.
SSeoni
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
139 Posts
March 27 2011 04:18 GMT
#23
wao. all of these is a must see ! GO TLO !
씨니
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 27 2011 04:27 GMT
#24
Shit I got so much work to do. Either finish my math portfolio and history essay or watch TSL hmm...... time to start thinking up some excuses
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
CaptainSlow
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia164 Posts
March 27 2011 04:41 GMT
#25
omgomgomgomg

TLO HWAITING!!!!!
PoisedYeTi
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia167 Posts
March 27 2011 04:43 GMT
#26
Words cannot express how excited i am for these games!

I will hazard a try with:

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD
"Just read game like book" -WhiteRa
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
March 27 2011 04:45 GMT
#27
TLO and NAda will be really close. Go Liquid!
GetSome
Profile Joined May 2010
United States35 Posts
March 27 2011 04:48 GMT
#28
WTF! Please don't compare IdrA to some ridiculous childrens story...The guy shows exactly how much he knows with every ass he kicks in stream, tournaments, and ladder match that he plays. He might be a little cocky and arrogant but he is not lacking in his understanding of the game or his opponents. I'm calling it; IdrA will sweep Cruncher!

Besides he would make a better Lord Vadar!
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 04:56:02
March 27 2011 04:52 GMT
#29
isn't TLO rolling as random stilll...?

He can pick race? Shouldn't races be locked once tournament has started? So TLO has to announce he playing terran before TSL Day1 start and has to stick with terran...?
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
Ephemerality
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 04:55:25
March 27 2011 04:54 GMT
#30
On March 27 2011 13:52 nitdkim wrote:
isn't TLO rolling as random stilll...?


He said in his interview that he'd play terran, the TSL rules let him choose his race.

Also, I think Idra will win this, then take the entire tournament. He WILL win because I chose him in my bracket >.>
FIGHT APATHY... or don't
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
March 27 2011 05:01 GMT
#31
... are Nada, Boxer, and MC the only koreans left!? O_o
scinfinitely
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines2 Posts
March 27 2011 05:10 GMT
#32
Man I'm super confused by the time-zone adjustment. It says the matches start at 2am Sunday GMT+8, which means they've already happened. But they haven't, right?
In the pipe, five by five.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
March 27 2011 05:14 GMT
#33
I think idra looks more like eminem than harry potter -_-;
maybe its cuz he doesnt wear glasses anymore
Entusman #51
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
March 27 2011 05:20 GMT
#34
Dariooooooo!

TL fighting!! :D
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
RaE21
Profile Joined September 2010
United States260 Posts
March 27 2011 05:26 GMT
#35
Can't wait for the Nada and TLO matches!! Both are great players, but I'll be rooting for TLO!!!
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
March 27 2011 05:31 GMT
#36
Wow, that Kas vs. HayprO bracket split is crazy. I hope tomorrow is going to be as awesome as today. So excited!

On March 27 2011 14:10 scinfinitely wrote:
Man I'm super confused by the time-zone adjustment. It says the matches start at 2am Sunday GMT+8, which means they've already happened. But they haven't, right?

No they haven't. It'll be 2AM on Monday for GMT+8.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 27 2011 05:31 GMT
#37
Cruncher has just been looking stronger and stronger, and he has many solid yet abusive builds. Also IdrA has been in a bit of a slump very recently... but I think I am going to vote for him anyway. He is a very resilient player and may be able to hold of Cruncher's abuse with ease... we will see. I have a feeling this will be like when I wanted to pick MorroW but I went with Jinro anyway... Either way I don't see him making it past Naniwa or Goody if he does get that far. Day 4 is going to be amazing!
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 27 2011 05:41 GMT
#38
<--- One of the 133 rooting for Cruncher!

Cruncher Fighting!!
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Dr. Von Derful
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States363 Posts
March 27 2011 05:41 GMT
#39
TLO, IdrA, Kas, and Mondragon... GOGOGO

I'm 100% confident on IdrA > Cruncher and Kas > Haypro, but it's hard to outright claim TLO > NaDa and Mondragon > Zeerax.

I'd like to see TLO take down NaDa with some very interesting play and hopefully some good dice rolls on the maps. It would be interesting to see a PvT, ZvT, and finish with a TvT.

As for Mondragon... I haven't even seen Mondragon play, but it just feels right to say the dark horse is going to win. I think if Mondragon has some very creative drop and infestor play, it will go his way.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 27 2011 05:46 GMT
#40
Gogo NaDa hwaiting!!
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 27 2011 05:49 GMT
#41
can't wait for NaDa vs TLO :D
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
March 27 2011 05:54 GMT
#42
omg i love the write up so professional i wish i could write like that
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
March 27 2011 05:56 GMT
#43
lol'd at the Harry Potter analysis of Idra

TLO!!!!!!!! :D
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
March 27 2011 06:06 GMT
#44
i wish i could decide whether to root for nada or tlo
Malhorn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
March 27 2011 06:08 GMT
#45
hahahaha. That Super Dario picture is totally awesome :D

GL IdrA and TLO!!!
Now playing: Random 8)
oGsTheStD
Profile Joined February 2011
United States32 Posts
March 27 2011 06:18 GMT
#46
I love the voldemort comparison, I always wondered how unstoppable voldemort would really be if he understood love and exploited it... if idra can learn the cheeses, the timing pushes, and maybe uses some of his own... he would be unstoppable
Ves
Profile Joined February 2011
United States27 Posts
March 27 2011 06:24 GMT
#47
IdrA, despite his physical resemblance to the hero of that series, takes after the villain of those books in mentality. In the brutal language of macro and mechanics, IdrA holds an edge. But he has been undone in the past by intangibles that he does not understand


I don't think I could have put this any better. IdrA is one of my favorite players and I enjoy reading about and hearing his confidence. But, he does tend to read into situations incorrectly because "this is what I think someone who was good would do". That's what I fear may happen, he'll read into the situations as this is what he SHOULD do, but instead CrunCher will do something crazy that IdrA would not even consider. I think CrunCher can take a game off him and I hope IdrA doesn't fall too "intagibles he does not understand"

DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
March 27 2011 06:39 GMT
#48
cmon swarm!!
Idra, haypro , mondy and TLO (well TLO is random but still a swarm in heart lol)
Makura
Profile Joined December 2010
United States317 Posts
March 27 2011 06:52 GMT
#49
Im hoping idra will win but (maybe a slight spoiler?) Cruncher really impressed me just now with his performance in Map of the Month
SHOW THEM WHAT THE CATFISH COMBO IS ALL ABOUT!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
March 27 2011 07:01 GMT
#50
Not enough Mondi hype

MONDRAGON FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!
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Devastate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States25 Posts
March 27 2011 07:07 GMT
#51
Idra is the sexiest man alive (no homo)
Dasdude
Profile Joined November 2010
United States45 Posts
March 27 2011 07:12 GMT
#52
SUPER DARIO
I just got my TV to stream this today, and I think that's all it will be doing tomorrow. :D
Quote?
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
March 27 2011 07:14 GMT
#53
i lold so hard at the Super Dario cheerful haha! cant wait for TLO v Nada its gonna b epic!
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 07:16:35
March 27 2011 07:15 GMT
#54
IDRA HWAAAAAIIIIITTTTTTING!

The Idra vs Cruncher preview writeup is quite possibly the best thing I've read on TL. My brain is currently unable to focus on anything other than finding a pun that combines "voldemort" and "grack".

Also, if Idra is taking a page out of MCs book o' confident interview mindgames, I will be quite pleased.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
March 27 2011 07:19 GMT
#55
Oh man that link in the Idra writeup is great. I see his classless, rude, and overly arrogant behavior has been going on for years now. Hes like the lil nerdy kid who got bullied in school so he becomes a police officer from hell to get back at people.

Its amazing to me he still has the amount of fans he does. I have so much more respect for a player like TLO or Jinro. Amazingly nice, good mannered, and humble. Pretty good at this game too last I checked.

Cruncher - please make a fool of this nerd tomorrow.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
March 27 2011 07:33 GMT
#56
--- Nuked ---
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
March 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#57
I'm also part of 133 that chose Cruncher, I think Idra will be caught completely off-guard due to beautiful timing attacks. Bit 50/50 of Kas vs Haypro, I only chose Kas because name sounded cooler, Mondragon dark horse but qualified for every TSL, and TLO over Nada due to previous match up in addition to Nada having to focus more on studies.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
March 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#58
the communities responses regarding idra never cease to amaze
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
March 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#59
I want idra to win so badly.
Tyler vs Idra in the finals, make it happen!
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 27 2011 07:43 GMT
#60
So excited for tomorrow mornin!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
March 27 2011 08:00 GMT
#61
On March 27 2011 14:14 Mobius wrote:
I think idra looks more like eminem than harry potter -_-;
maybe its cuz he doesnt wear glasses anymore


Eminem minus 100 pounds and plus receding hairline maybe.
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
March 27 2011 08:03 GMT
#62
Bold prediction in the IdrA match. I think it might have come true pre-patch but now that infestors are magic I'm thinking IdrA's got this.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 27 2011 08:24 GMT
#63
I want to see Cruncher 4 Gate twice and win.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 27 2011 08:29 GMT
#64
I knew haypro/kas would seem close to people. I picked Kas, but i could see it going either way so easily.

I hope TLO pulls out a win too, I'm really rooting for him.
-Drachi-
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3 Posts
March 27 2011 08:29 GMT
#65
who is streaming this series?
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 27 2011 08:40 GMT
#66
goo NADA!!!! gonna be a great match! =D
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
March 27 2011 08:44 GMT
#67
On March 27 2011 17:29 -Drachi- wrote:
who is streaming this series?

There's gonna be a stream on the main page of this site, in about 9 hours from now, there's also a countdown timer in the top right side of the site.
Hamster
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
March 27 2011 08:55 GMT
#68
crunhcer to take it !
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 27 2011 08:56 GMT
#69
i was 0/4 yesterday, so many upsets im scared for Idra
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
March 27 2011 08:57 GMT
#70
Will TLO / Nada be played last tonight ?
nospeech
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
March 27 2011 09:04 GMT
#71
On March 27 2011 17:57 yejin wrote:
Will TLO / Nada be played last tonight ?

Yeah the matches will be played in the order that they are reviewed in this preview.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
March 27 2011 09:04 GMT
#72
Lol, I wouldn't mind if Mondy takes the whole thing.
Those cheerfuls cracked me up.
End my suffering
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
March 27 2011 09:51 GMT
#73
If i was IdrA and lost to Cruncher after all that has been said , i'd probably become a hermit and vanish from the gaming community forever. It's time to back that arrogance with a smashing performance! For the SWARM!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Sansucal
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany259 Posts
March 27 2011 09:55 GMT
#74
mondragon and nada for the win!!!!
ZergLIK
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation9 Posts
March 27 2011 10:03 GMT
#75
TLO playing Random. He isnt terran
redDuke
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia207 Posts
March 27 2011 10:09 GMT
#76
TLO hwaiting!! C'mon TLO show us whose boss!
vile | FXO | Liquid | EG | coL
Oproer
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands108 Posts
March 27 2011 10:24 GMT
#77
On March 27 2011 19:03 ZergLIK wrote:
TLO playing Random. He isnt terran


Not true.
Mostly Harmless
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
March 27 2011 10:35 GMT
#78
On March 27 2011 17:29 -Drachi- wrote:
who is streaming this series?

http://www.ustream.tv/teamliquidtv
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
March 27 2011 10:37 GMT
#79
I wonder how many wish they could change their liquibets after yesterday?
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
March 27 2011 10:46 GMT
#80
That super dario cheerful just made my day. Thank you!! haha its so awesome
Serenity
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 27 2011 10:48 GMT
#81
On March 27 2011 18:51 Psyclon wrote:
If i was IdrA and lost to Cruncher after all that has been said , i'd probably become a hermit and vanish from the gaming community forever.

I think it's more likely that you would find some iniquitous imbalance that makes the game absolutely broken right now.
Nevertheless, go idra!
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
March 27 2011 10:49 GMT
#82
best day imo. i cant imagine being more excited for any other matches.
EG-TL!
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#83
AWww yeah idra,NaDa TLO <3

Kas Haypro awesome games today hopefully long aswell
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Walegon
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia16 Posts
March 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#84
I can't actually work out what time this on in Melbourne. I'm thinking 5:00am, which I'll get up for. But it better be on then!
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
March 27 2011 11:14 GMT
#85
In TLO vs NaDa review, I think u mean this "Sunday" and not Saturday.
In the topic, amazing matches incoming, THIS IS HUGE.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
March 27 2011 11:19 GMT
#86
60k viewers today!
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
March 27 2011 11:30 GMT
#87
I honestly don't like Cruncher as a player, but I'm pretty sure he'll beat IdrA. Unfortunate as it is, 'cause I have a lot of respect for Grack, I don't think he's gonna win.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 11:32:50
March 27 2011 11:31 GMT
#88
God those pictures at the end are bad xD
some epic matches today.
Cruncher > Idra in the tournament of upsets !
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
March 27 2011 11:40 GMT
#89
Mondragon gogogogogo!

He is really really good, and he once said in bnet something like "only TSL counts for me".
So I think we can expect a top Mondi.
gogogogo^^
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
March 27 2011 11:48 GMT
#90
Looking forward to this ! I actually dreamed about Idra in a weird cs/sc2 crossover XD (no Protoss in that dream so sadly no prophecies)

Kas and TLO fighting !!!
Inex
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria443 Posts
March 27 2011 12:05 GMT
#91
Good Luck ZeeRax, you're the man ! Today's matches are going to be insane!
Ajunoo
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany147 Posts
March 27 2011 12:10 GMT
#92
On March 27 2011 20:30 Shamrock_ wrote:
I honestly don't like Cruncher as a player, but I'm pretty sure he'll beat IdrA. Unfortunate as it is, 'cause I have a lot of respect for Grack, I don't think he's gonna win.

Yup. OP is very much right, Cruncher is exactly the kind of player that can COST idra. Hope idra wins tho!
Lava
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany32 Posts
March 27 2011 12:14 GMT
#93
I wish I could change my bracket predictions...after yesterday's results, it's basically certain that Cruncher will roflstomp Idra, TLO will upset Nada with mass reaper into mass battlecruiser/raven play and Zeerax will win the whole tournament. :D
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 12:24:05
March 27 2011 12:23 GMT
#94
cant wait for todays matches with better casters
+ Show Spoiler +
dont like husky because of his 'baller' like attitude when hes not. Also, dont advertise him on the stream when theres like 50k people watching, its TSL not a HDH
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
March 27 2011 12:26 GMT
#95
one sentence is defining for the whole TSL:

Still, my prediction is that TLO will take it - I think he wants it more.


i think this basically holds true for all the games so far, those who fought for a spot in the tournament and or were not preoccupied by the GSL really committed themselves to this thing, not saying by any means that the invites were lazy, just the impression i got!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 12:28:10
March 27 2011 12:27 GMT
#96
IdrA better win -.-'
With all the upsets we've been seeing, and considering Greg's spent so much time overseas that he's practically Korean anyway... IdrA fighting!

Nada vs. TLO is gonna be CRAZY
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
March 27 2011 12:41 GMT
#97
GRACK ATTACK!!!

I am so stoked for these games. I cant wait. I am all wiggily in my seat, like Artosis.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Falkner
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines9 Posts
March 27 2011 12:49 GMT
#98
Idra, Haypro, Mondy and TLO FIGHTING!!!!
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 27 2011 13:01 GMT
#99
Nice matchups today, can't wait.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Cruncher will upset Idra, 2-1. I'm feeling an aura of upset today, but Idra may very well be on his A-game during the matches.

Kas vs Haypro is perhaps the closest and most even match-up out of all the matches in TSL3. I'll give Haypro the slight edge, but Kas might very well give us a few surprises. 2-1 for Haypro.

Wow, I'm having a hard time calling Mondragon vs Zeerax. Too much unknown factors coming into play. We've seen Zeerax play, and he's pretty good, but Mondi is an enigma (vintage Mondi I guess ). It's hard to call this one, but I'll give Zeerax the benefit of the doubt; I say he takes this 2-0. However, Mondi is Mondi, so I'm not counting him out completely.

Nada vs TLO. Damn, I am EXCITED for this match. The Genius Terran vs Mr. Unorthodox. I'm crossing my fingers for some nuke action by TLO, and hopefully, we'll see some Battlecruiser action too. I'll give TLO the edge because I feel that he is the more prepared player. Nada is Nada, I can't deny that, but with him studying in Uni and not having enough practice, I feel that it'll really handicap him. 2-1 for TLO.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
March 27 2011 13:03 GMT
#100
Day[9] should be casting today, right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
March 27 2011 13:05 GMT
#101
If CrunCher wins, I think I'll eat my hat. I mean that with the greatest possible respect but the odds are so stacked against him. Good luck fella!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
March 27 2011 13:07 GMT
#102
On March 27 2011 22:05 WArped wrote:
If CrunCher wins, I think I'll eat my hat. I mean that with the greatest possible respect but the odds are so stacked against him. Good luck fella!


Did you... + Show Spoiler +
watch the matches yesterday? So many ridiculous upsets
lol

I really hope IdrA wins.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 27 2011 13:08 GMT
#103
I just realized that if Haypro and TLO lose today, Tyler will be the only Team Liquid player left.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 27 2011 13:11 GMT
#104
--- Nuked ---
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
March 27 2011 13:11 GMT
#105
hey, it starts in 3h50m not in 4h50m like it says on top of the page right?
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 27 2011 13:13 GMT
#106
On March 27 2011 22:11 Hirnfrost wrote:
hey, it starts in 3h50m not in 4h50m like it says on top of the page right?


daylight savings kicking in this side of the pond will make it a different time than yesterday

nada>tlo
idra>cruncher
kas>haypro
zeerax>mondragon
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 27 2011 13:13 GMT
#107
Rooting for HayprO!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
March 27 2011 13:15 GMT
#108
Julius Nazgul
banelings
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 27 2011 13:21 GMT
#109
Hope no upsets happen today

I had enough yesterday
Nidoa
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 13:32:22
March 27 2011 13:27 GMT
#110
Calendar has the wrong hour (1 hour earlier) if the OP is to be believed (i'm sure it is). EDIT insta-corrected, you guys are on the ball

TL Hwaiting!! hopefully more than one liquid guy makes it into Ro16
Two82
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway11 Posts
March 27 2011 13:34 GMT
#111
Hope TLO gets back into it. His got the brains to become great, just see if he got the dedication
tek_ger
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany140 Posts
March 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#112
can we have the tsl intro video with the painted guys of day4 please?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
March 27 2011 13:44 GMT
#113
I bet cruncher, kas, TLO and zeerax is gonna win. This is the tournament of the underdogs..
I'm still trying to recover from yesterdays games so I hope to god there's not gonna be any upsets tbh. They hurt my brain
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
March 27 2011 13:47 GMT
#114
So.. does it start in about 3 hrs or 4hrs?
Betrayed by EG.BuK
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
March 27 2011 13:50 GMT
#115
God i love that rek post. I read the whole thing every time its linked to me, despite reading when it came out and 20k times since. He wrecks idra so hard, spits so much truth, gets to the root of why idrA was and will continue to be the best foreigner without ever winning anything.
White-Ra fighting!
ambra
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy80 Posts
March 27 2011 14:21 GMT
#116
I really wish husky could stop saying "epic" every 5 seconds.

rooting for idra, I hope he wont end up like nestea yesterday
Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
March 27 2011 14:44 GMT
#117
holy shit, can't wait for IdrA, and NaDa v TLO !!!
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
March 27 2011 14:49 GMT
#118
Nice writeup, but I think it's really not cool to compare IdrA's appearance to Harry Potter's.

The latter is supposed to have a pleasant face and is definately not balding.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
March 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#119
I'm so sad that I have to finish up a mandatory math submissions Goddamn you university. The worst part is I have to thread on eggshells on which topics I open until I've seen the matches.

but, HYPE!
really?
Mommas Boy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada144 Posts
March 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#120
I can never get enough Idra. TLO vs NADA will be one of the few TvT's I watch, because I think it will be epic, but Im not so sure well see too crazy play from TLO today, my guess is he will play a lil more standard.
here to play.
Causlicious
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany127 Posts
March 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#121
oh man TLO today, cant wait for it!
his picture looks so badass <3
<33
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
March 27 2011 14:57 GMT
#122
i hope people don't miss it because the summer time 1 hour display

or that it get fixed
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 27 2011 15:08 GMT
#123
I'm confused now, does it start in 2h or 3h?
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
March 27 2011 15:10 GMT
#124
For the sake of a Zerg player getting to the finals, Haypro and Idra NEED to win D:
Mommas Boy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada144 Posts
March 27 2011 15:10 GMT
#125
2 hrs
here to play.
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
March 27 2011 15:12 GMT
#126
How come TLO gets to pick his race, even though he entered the tournament as random? This has kind of fucked my bracket :/ Not that my bracket is really any good now because of yesterday... haha.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
March 27 2011 15:24 GMT
#127
i picked CrunCher to win because IdrA is overconfident and deserves it. i also have the interview thread bookmarked for instant quoting of IdrA's "i'm gonna walkover this kid" statement.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
March 27 2011 15:30 GMT
#128
tonight is gonna be like:

"hello ladies and gentlemen,

this is the mondragon daily number 9XXXX,
were we learn to be an easymode gamer!
and probably roflstomp some other guys out of the tournament, when we get lucky!"

mondragon fighting!

"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Esjihn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States164 Posts
March 27 2011 15:32 GMT
#129
On March 28 2011 00:24 VarpuliS wrote:
i picked CrunCher to win because IdrA is overconfident and deserves it. i also have the interview thread bookmarked for instant quoting of IdrA's "i'm gonna walkover this kid" statement.


hell are you talking about. i hate how people on the forum take stuff out of context. he said he was gonna APPROACH the match like his opponent was a walkover. Which is pretty much him just psyching himself up. He did not say dude was a walk over.
Moar Tanks, Less Skanks!
Kimoto
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway70 Posts
March 27 2011 15:33 GMT
#130
On March 28 2011 00:32 Esjihn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 00:24 VarpuliS wrote:
i picked CrunCher to win because IdrA is overconfident and deserves it. i also have the interview thread bookmarked for instant quoting of IdrA's "i'm gonna walkover this kid" statement.


hell are you talking about. i hate how people on the forum take stuff out of context. he said he was gonna APPROACH the match like his opponent was a walkover. Which is pretty much him just psyching himself up. He did not say dude was a walk over.


This
EGIdrA - DIMAGA - oGsTheSTC - LiquidTLO
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
March 27 2011 15:35 GMT
#131
GO CRUNCHER!
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
iruga
Profile Joined December 2010
United States28 Posts
March 27 2011 15:56 GMT
#132
keep looking at the clock every 5 minutes hoping its almost time to start lol. Gonna be some awesome games :D go idra
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
March 27 2011 16:03 GMT
#133
go mondragon, cant wait..
nerrciss
Profile Joined January 2011
54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 16:10:45
March 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#134
[image loading]
Gumbos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
March 27 2011 16:17 GMT
#135
One epic match after another and with the upsets we have been seeing I expect some interesting outcomes today. Looking forward to it!!!
ttomelle
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden243 Posts
March 27 2011 16:18 GMT
#136
TLO-Nada....i guess thats too much for me....
Idnan
Profile Joined November 2010
54 Posts
March 27 2011 16:26 GMT
#137
<3 Dario "TLO" Wünsch<3 !!!
He will made it, i mean who is NaDa that he can beat TLO?!
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 27 2011 16:52 GMT
#138
God damn, I just came on to watch the game to remember the clocks changed in the Uk .
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 16:55:54
March 27 2011 16:55 GMT
#139
God damn, I just came on to watch the game to remember the clocks changed in the Uk


Same. Gota find something to do now. >_<
To Death we shall all go.
TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
March 27 2011 16:57 GMT
#140
Please Starcraft 2, Don't show everybody that you're a "fucking jokie" again...Just let IdrA win... 8O
WorkerRush
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada79 Posts
March 27 2011 17:02 GMT
#141
haha yea go idra
Apologize for playing that race
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
March 27 2011 17:08 GMT
#142
IdrA fighting! TLO and NaDa gonna be such a great match, TSL3 is fucking awesome
SlayerS Fighting!
WorkerRush
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada79 Posts
March 27 2011 17:09 GMT
#143
is it supposed to be started like 10 minutes ago??? I can't find the stream
Apologize for playing that race
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 17:12:12
March 27 2011 17:10 GMT
#144
On March 28 2011 02:09 WorkerRush wrote:
is it supposed to be started like 10 minutes ago??? I can't find the stream


Same here. Is this summer time kicking in?

Edit: Hm, I have to learn how to read. Too much excitement probably


Upcoming events: [ More ]
50m [TSL] Ro32: Day 4
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
March 27 2011 17:10 GMT
#145
No, its an hour later because of the clock change in EU.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 27 2011 17:11 GMT
#146
Herp derp I was expecting that too but it's summertime from today.
RandomDude
Profile Joined February 2011
United States18 Posts
March 27 2011 17:18 GMT
#147
Go TLO! I am highly anticipating today's matches. Will the upsets continue...
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
March 27 2011 17:21 GMT
#148
On March 27 2011 23:51 Clearout wrote:
I'm so sad that I have to finish up a mandatory math submissions Goddamn you university. The worst part is I have to thread on eggshells on which topics I open until I've seen the matches.

but, HYPE!

Skipping this in favor of TSL! Woop woop :D
really?
hooray_SC
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany9 Posts
March 27 2011 17:24 GMT
#149
Gogo mondi!!!!!
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
March 27 2011 17:42 GMT
#150
Germany fighting!!!!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
March 27 2011 17:42 GMT
#151
Idra will win 2-0.

IDRA FIGHTING!!
Taiko
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria78 Posts
March 27 2011 17:51 GMT
#152
looking forward to the series
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
March 27 2011 17:52 GMT
#153
Awesome writeup and I just realized Kenningit is the one providing the graphics so mad props to him too.
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 18:03:23
March 27 2011 18:02 GMT
#154
IdrA and Kas FIGHTING!!!

Go DJ[9] & DayWheat!!! XD <3 xoxo
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
alkalid
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
March 27 2011 18:05 GMT
#155
Go Go Cruncher!!!!
Don't fear the reaper.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 27 2011 18:17 GMT
#156
i just want cruncher to beat IdrA for THE RAAAAGEEEEE
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
March 27 2011 18:32 GMT
#157
Rage time!
mountchockula
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada34 Posts
March 27 2011 18:32 GMT
#158
mmmmmmmmm delicious victory for cruncher
Magikarp beastin on yo ass
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
March 27 2011 18:51 GMT
#159
in game 2:
+ Show Spoiler +
idra played like he just got inspiration from the gods
Old lamps for new!
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
March 27 2011 18:52 GMT
#160
So obvious who is the better player.
Void Ray / Colossus is hard lol.
The Creator of the Universe, LG-IM.NesTea | The Gracken, IdrA | The Spoon Terran, "Big Papa" EG.ThorZaIN --- Fighting!!
funkkkk
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania8 Posts
March 27 2011 19:03 GMT
#161
die idra=))
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 27 2011 19:04 GMT
#162
Sentries are officially imbalanced. The roaches couldn't even attack...
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
March 27 2011 19:04 GMT
#163
Ehh idra gah un professional call at the end day9
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
tosog
Profile Joined March 2011
64 Posts
March 27 2011 19:04 GMT
#164
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
March 27 2011 19:05 GMT
#165
Not sure if anyone in production of TSL will read this but anyway. If I may offer a constructive criticism with the production of the TSL stream. Transitions from talking about the previous game into the next game there seems to be this just down time where nothing is happening. For instance after game 2 of Idra vs Cruncher Day9 said "and on to game 3" and the stream just sat for about a minute before going into the intro to game 3. During that minute the stream lost 10,000 viewers (not saying purely because of that) but just a thought.
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BootFailed
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany6 Posts
March 27 2011 19:05 GMT
#166
I loved CrunCher´s Smiley vs Idra :D:D
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
March 27 2011 19:05 GMT
#167
On March 28 2011 04:05 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Not sure if anyone in production of TSL will read this but anyway. If I may offer a constructive criticism with the production of the TSL stream. Transitions from talking about the previous game into the next game there seems to be this just down time where nothing is happening. For instance after game 2 of Idra vs Cruncher Day9 said "and on to game 3" and the stream just sat for about a minute before going into the intro to game 3. During that minute the stream lost 10,000 viewers (not saying purely because of that) but just a thought.

You use adblock don't you? They run commercials during that time.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
trembol
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland17 Posts
March 27 2011 19:06 GMT
#168
"This will be like walkover" ^^
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 27 2011 19:06 GMT
#169
EXPELLIARMUS!
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MadDog`
Profile Joined March 2011
Croatia15 Posts
March 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#170
gg cruncher, wc3 players ftw
hint: grubby!

On March 28 2011 04:04 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
Sentries are officially imbalanced. The roaches couldn't even attack...

Not, you need some skills actually to use those force fields like that. I guess that was just awesome wc3 micro.
lundell100
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden232 Posts
March 27 2011 19:11 GMT
#171
Forcefields... IdrAs natural enemy
chromakey
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden5 Posts
March 27 2011 19:11 GMT
#172
g.g idra
ClutchSC
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada34 Posts
March 27 2011 19:12 GMT
#173
The problem with FF is that there isn't a proper counter to that until burrow and in reality, burrow movement.
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okrane
Profile Joined April 2010
France265 Posts
March 27 2011 19:15 GMT
#174
Love or hate Idra, be glad or sad that he lost, doesnt matter that much.

What seems concerning is the current state of the game which allows so many abuses and lack of excitement (read: collosi)
Really disappointed with Starcraft II Zerg! :(
Iro
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland6 Posts
March 27 2011 19:15 GMT
#175
WTF is this shit col cruncher smiley fucking face after that amount of cheese and a 5 gate into expand idra lost to a fucking noob

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Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 19:16:17
March 27 2011 19:15 GMT
#176
On March 28 2011 04:07 MadDog` wrote:
gg cruncher, wc3 players ftw
hint: grubby!

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:04 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
Sentries are officially imbalanced. The roaches couldn't even attack...

Not, you need some skills actually to use those force fields like that. I guess that was just awesome wc3 micro.


Are you kidding? I hope you're being sarcastic... You need skill to spam-click F? I bet! Same awesome micro that helped him with the amazing phoenix/voidray harass in G1 and G2, right?.......... he got a total of like 1.NONE kills with those phoenix/voidrays and lost most of them to queens/early hydras.... imjustsaying....

Toss is a joke. G2 puts skill levels of idra and cruncher into a good perspective. G1 shows IdrA making a mistake of letting cruncher max out... cruncher only showed that you can fail with harass and still win with the unstoppable ball...

G G ?

+ Show Spoiler +
PS: I can't wait til NASL... the awesome things I have in mind! Mmmm
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
March 27 2011 19:16 GMT
#177
54k... holy cow
Lortab
Profile Joined January 2011
United States20 Posts
March 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#178
so funny watching Idra getting Walked Over . . What an asshat lol.

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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
March 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#179
Wow, IdrA got Crunched.
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
March 27 2011 19:18 GMT
#180
No one can call that loss anything but a bad decision by IdrA. He was pumping 7 drones when the 6gate was on his creep. He was being greedy and overconfident. It REALLY REALLY sucks because IdrA is a better player than col.cruncher (in my opinion), but he just gets too macro heavy sometimes. He needs to meet stupid levels of aggression with stupid levels of defense.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
March 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#181
On March 28 2011 04:18 Durn wrote:
No one can call that loss anything but a bad decision by IdrA. He was pumping 7 drones when the 6gate was on his creep. He was being greedy and overconfident. It REALLY REALLY sucks because IdrA is a better player than col.cruncher (in my opinion), but he just gets too macro heavy sometimes. He needs to meet stupid levels of aggression with stupid levels of defense.


Sure. And the cruncher sees shitload of units, throws down a few forcefields and goes home, takes third, gets colossi/voidray and kills you later. Awesome plan, bro! ^^
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
Mrgn
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden17 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#182
(:
IdrA has left the game.
MadDog`
Profile Joined March 2011
Croatia15 Posts
March 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#183
On March 28 2011 04:15 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:07 MadDog` wrote:
gg cruncher, wc3 players ftw
hint: grubby!

On March 28 2011 04:04 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
Sentries are officially imbalanced. The roaches couldn't even attack...

Not, you need some skills actually to use those force fields like that. I guess that was just awesome wc3 micro.


Are you kidding? I hope you're being sarcastic... You need skill to spam-click F? I bet! Same awesome micro that helped him with the amazing phoenix/voidray harass in G1 and G2, right?.......... he got a total of like 1.NONE kills with those phoenix/voidrays and lost most of them to queens/early hydras.... imjustsaying....

Toss is a joke. G2 puts skill levels of idra and cruncher into a good perspective. G1 shows IdrA making a mistake of letting cruncher max out... cruncher only showed that you can fail with harass and still win with the unstoppable ball...

G G ?

+ Show Spoiler +
PS: I can't wait til NASL... the awesome things I have in mind! Mmmm

tired of OP talking.. cruncher won, i just said gg and wp by cruncher.
It's not about f+clicking its about aiming those force fields with mouse. Everyone would use FF just like mc does, but hey, that's not possible, cuz it takes skill for that.
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
March 27 2011 19:28 GMT
#184
On March 28 2011 04:15 okrane wrote:
Love or hate Idra, be glad or sad that he lost, doesnt matter that much.

What seems concerning is the current state of the game which allows so many abuses and lack of excitement (read: collosi)


This.
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Daetien
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 19:32:23
March 27 2011 19:28 GMT
#185
People love Idra's smack talk, but from the tournaments I've seen, it almost always backfires.

In the 1st game, Idra was dumb to let Cruncher max out, game 2 showed exactly how to stop what Cruncher was doing. Game 3 showed exactly how to beat Idra when he keeps to his heavy macro, even after he knows what is likely to be coming.

As far as VR/Collossi being an unstoppable ball - Its possible to stop it doing a few different things, Idra just didn't do them.

Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.
MadDog`
Profile Joined March 2011
Croatia15 Posts
March 27 2011 19:30 GMT
#186
+1 daetien, there is a good counter vs everything.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 27 2011 19:31 GMT
#187
On March 28 2011 04:20 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:18 Durn wrote:
No one can call that loss anything but a bad decision by IdrA. He was pumping 7 drones when the 6gate was on his creep. He was being greedy and overconfident. It REALLY REALLY sucks because IdrA is a better player than col.cruncher (in my opinion), but he just gets too macro heavy sometimes. He needs to meet stupid levels of aggression with stupid levels of defense.


Sure. And the cruncher sees shitload of units, throws down a few forcefields and goes home, takes third, gets colossi/voidray and kills you later. Awesome plan, bro! ^^


You can toss and turn it around all you want.He knew 6 gate is coming and he made drones.He has no excuse for it.If he wanted to win he could have just made 2 spines,loads of speedlings go around and pick off the pylon that reinforced the toss army.
I like IdrA but if he continues to be ignorant like this with hes play he has no room to QQ after.
Cackle™
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
March 27 2011 19:32 GMT
#188
On March 28 2011 04:30 MadDog` wrote:
+1 daetien, there is a good counter vs everything.


That isn't the issue is it?
When there is a unit composition that is clearly superior to alternative unit comps, that/those unit(s) will dictate the matchup in a way that makes the play more abusive and hence less exciting to watch.
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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
March 27 2011 19:33 GMT
#189
: )

+ Show Spoiler +
Greg "Force" Fields.
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CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
March 27 2011 19:35 GMT
#190
So happy Cruncher won, Idra is suck a cocky little shit. Two rage quits from Idra and a smiley to end the series from Cruncher, I lol'd In Idra's defense though, he did roll through him like he said he would, but only in game two....
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
March 27 2011 19:56 GMT
#191
On March 28 2011 04:20 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 04:18 Durn wrote:
No one can call that loss anything but a bad decision by IdrA. He was pumping 7 drones when the 6gate was on his creep. He was being greedy and overconfident. It REALLY REALLY sucks because IdrA is a better player than col.cruncher (in my opinion), but he just gets too macro heavy sometimes. He needs to meet stupid levels of aggression with stupid levels of defense.


Sure. And the cruncher sees shitload of units, throws down a few forcefields and goes home, takes third, gets colossi/voidray and kills you later. Awesome plan, bro! ^^
If those 7 drones had been Roaches, there's no tell of how that fight would've been different.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
hooray_SC
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany9 Posts
March 27 2011 19:57 GMT
#192
Ggogo Mondi!!!!!
IamEmba
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland8 Posts
March 27 2011 20:01 GMT
#193
I still <3 IdrA - the smiley was awesome, though.
MC Goody IdrA Socke
Absolutelyyyyy
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
March 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#194
spoiler btw

that was a joke. game 2 was utter rape, game 1 was a laughable deathball and game 3 is FF abuse. yay toss def UP
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
March 27 2011 20:18 GMT
#195
On March 28 2011 04:33 apm66 wrote:
: )

+ Show Spoiler +
Greg "Force" Fields.



haha that made me laugh,

but seriously, when i saw that idra left game after the '' i kinda remembered the good old days in bw when during a game idra was being rude to strelok, i dont know why i did, but it just reminded me of his awesome personality

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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 27 2011 20:19 GMT
#196
God I hate this "Toss OP" shit.

Zerg is a heavy scouting and reacting race. If Idra doesn't scout the attack, hes going to lose. If he did scout the attack, then he reacted incorrectly.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
trembol
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 20:36:55
March 27 2011 20:20 GMT
#197
creating more drones when you are seeing a push was best reaction from idra oO
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
March 27 2011 20:26 GMT
#198
On March 28 2011 04:33 apm66 wrote:
: )

+ Show Spoiler +
Greg "Force" Fields.

lol xD
SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
March 27 2011 20:41 GMT
#199
Someone fill out a missing person report...that wasn't Greg Fields playing.

I was really surprised to watch Idra lose the few roaches he had to that push in game 3. I think the speedlings could have been used to kill the forward pylon, and the roaches should have fallen back to wait for reinforcements. Instead, we watch 6 roaches get trapped by some money FF's, and 11 more roaches trickle on to the battlefield. If the drones had been roaches, and he didn't allow the roaches already on the field to die, 17 roaches would have probably held that.

I was also shocked to see drones being made during the push, and also no spines at his nat. I was just very underwhelemed by his incredibly thin defense, despite a very powerful timing attack coming his way.

Maybe someone can help explain to me why he took the more exposed natural rather then the safer one. IMHO, I think he did this because he underestimated cruncher. I think had he been playing someone he respected, or someone that he thought wouldn't be a "walk over", he would have played more like the Idra we expect.

gg, dont underestimate your opponent
If at first you don't succeed, redefine the parameters for success.
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 20:47:06
March 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#200
On March 28 2011 05:20 trembol wrote:
creating more drones when you are seeing a push was best reaction from idra oO


Of course, because underdroned zerg on equal bases is fully capable of maintaining constant unit production to be able to combat a 6-gate... you're absolutely right!!!

I wish IdrA commented on some of these.... but I think he's banned... or something... so I think I wish he quoted some of posts from TL in the "imbalanced show".... I'd love to hear what he has to say.

On March 28 2011 05:41 SoBeDragon wrote:
Maybe someone can help explain to me why he took the more exposed natural rather then the safer one. IMHO, I think he did this because he underestimated cruncher. I think had he been playing someone he respected, or someone that he thought wouldn't be a "walk over", he would have played more like the Idra we expect.

gg, dont underestimate your opponent


Because maybe he was scared of being contained outside of his base? Because the "safe" expo has less minerals and only one gas? Who knows. I'm sure IdrA knows better than you and I.
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
March 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#201

Because maybe he was scared of being contained outside of his base? Because the "safe" expo has less minerals and only one gas? Who knows. I'm sure IdrA knows better than you and I.


I hope so. That didn't look like the gracken to me today =/
If at first you don't succeed, redefine the parameters for success.
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
March 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#202
On March 28 2011 05:54 SoBeDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +

Because maybe he was scared of being contained outside of his base? Because the "safe" expo has less minerals and only one gas? Who knows. I'm sure IdrA knows better than you and I.


I hope so. That didn't look like the gracken to me today =/


Maybe it was a statement! ^^
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
March 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#203
On March 28 2011 05:57 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 05:54 SoBeDragon wrote:

Because maybe he was scared of being contained outside of his base? Because the "safe" expo has less minerals and only one gas? Who knows. I'm sure IdrA knows better than you and I.


I hope so. That didn't look like the gracken to me today =/


Maybe it was a statement! ^^


lol
If at first you don't succeed, redefine the parameters for success.
Mommas Boy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada144 Posts
March 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#204
Sometimes Im suprised Idra doesnt play safer in a big game 3 like that. Like hes so macro crazy that he forgets if he cuts some drones, it could benefit him FROM NOT LOSING lol
here to play.
Daetien
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4 Posts
March 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#205
Mondragon just showed Idra how to stop the Deathball...
Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.
TheRoadrunner
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany7 Posts
March 27 2011 21:21 GMT
#206
want to watch the tlo match but a nice user was spoilering the result.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#207
On March 28 2011 05:42 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 05:20 trembol wrote:
creating more drones when you are seeing a push was best reaction from idra oO


Of course, because underdroned zerg on equal bases is fully capable of maintaining constant unit production to be able to combat a 6-gate... you're absolutely right!!!

I wish IdrA commented on some of these.... but I think he's banned... or something... so I think I wish he quoted some of posts from TL in the "imbalanced show".... I'd love to hear what he has to say.


Except that there was no way Cruncher's economy was even with Idra's if he was going to commit to a 5 gate attack.

Remember: When Zerg scout a fast-expand, they have 2 choices, go attack to attempt to punish the Protoss for expanding early, or take a quick 3rd. Since Idra didn't attempt to attack, he should have a third and be scouting for the Protoss' tech. If he sees 5/6 gates, guess what? Make some spines/roaches/speedlings.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Riskr
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany403 Posts
March 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#208
Hau ihn wech Dario

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SkyMouz
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary11 Posts
March 27 2011 21:52 GMT
#209
nice play by Dario
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
March 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#210
Today was so epic, especially the last games, that we're seriously crashing the Teamliquid.net server
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PylonBuilder
Profile Joined January 2011
United States59 Posts
March 27 2011 22:55 GMT
#211
Idra, why did you sac all your corrupters to the void rays. :'(
Infernus
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway222 Posts
March 27 2011 23:11 GMT
#212
Man this tournament is nothing but upsets xD I know my brackets just went to shit lawl. It still annoys me that IdrA can't show proper manners in such a prestigious tournament, with up till 60k viewers.. Ohwell, loving the Day/Wheat duo! Really rocks.
sup ;o
gREIFOCs
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina208 Posts
March 27 2011 23:35 GMT
#213
Any VODs from this yet?
Don't work hard. You die at the end anyway, dummy.
jdr_
Profile Joined October 2009
United States78 Posts
March 28 2011 00:49 GMT
#214
On March 28 2011 08:11 Infernus wrote:
Man this tournament is nothing but upsets xD I know my brackets just went to shit lawl. It still annoys me that IdrA can't show proper manners in such a prestigious tournament, with up till 60k viewers.. Ohwell, loving the Day/Wheat duo! Really rocks.



Cruncher didn't have any fucking manners either, and I don't think anyone has any obligation to type some meaningless formality like gg, just because koreans do it.

We don't live in fucking korea, their traditions are not important here.
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kataa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom384 Posts
March 28 2011 01:16 GMT
#215
[B]On March 28 2011 09:49 jdr_ wrote:[/B
We don't live in fucking korea, their traditions are not important here.


Uh, how you got it into your head GG was a Korean tradition blows my mind. I was typing GG in various computer games back when I was twelve. I say 'Good Game' at the end of almost every sport I've ever played electronic or not.

Though I do enjoy the subtle racism of your post.
JasonX
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)90 Posts
March 28 2011 01:22 GMT
#216
Today's games were so epic <3
The actions we do today, will echo in eternity.
Infernus
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway222 Posts
March 28 2011 01:27 GMT
#217
On March 28 2011 09:49 jdr_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 08:11 Infernus wrote:
Man this tournament is nothing but upsets xD I know my brackets just went to shit lawl. It still annoys me that IdrA can't show proper manners in such a prestigious tournament, with up till 60k viewers.. Ohwell, loving the Day/Wheat duo! Really rocks.



Cruncher didn't have any fucking manners either, and I don't think anyone has any obligation to type some meaningless formality like gg, just because koreans do it.

We don't live in fucking korea, their traditions are not important here.


What do you mean their traditions are not important here? Is it now a Korean tradition to type GG? Man, give me whatever you are smoking, must be awesome.

It's not an meaningless formality. It shows sportsmanship. You are right tho, theres no obligation what so ever. But in my case, I do expect more from a so called 'professional' player then a ragequit. I don't mind a ragequit in games.. but in TSL, thats.. meh.

Anyways, wasn't trying to make a big deal out of this. This is just who he is.
sup ;o
Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
March 28 2011 01:30 GMT
#218
On March 28 2011 09:49 jdr_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 08:11 Infernus wrote:
Man this tournament is nothing but upsets xD I know my brackets just went to shit lawl. It still annoys me that IdrA can't show proper manners in such a prestigious tournament, with up till 60k viewers.. Ohwell, loving the Day/Wheat duo! Really rocks.



Cruncher didn't have any fucking manners either, and I don't think anyone has any obligation to type some meaningless formality like gg, just because koreans do it.

We don't live in fucking korea, their traditions are not important here.

yeah fuck those koreans using their KOREAN words like good game and stuff.
Speak the word...
BuzzKerbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia46 Posts
March 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#219

Ah this is too good to be true, been following Cruncher basically since he started streaming and know the guy is GOOD.

Idra suffer
eton7410
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada261 Posts
March 28 2011 02:39 GMT
#220
idra fking sucks!!

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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 03:20:56
March 28 2011 03:20 GMT
#221
On March 28 2011 05:42 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 05:20 trembol wrote:
creating more drones when you are seeing a push was best reaction from idra oO


Of course, because underdroned zerg on equal bases is fully capable of maintaining constant unit production to be able to combat a 6-gate... you're absolutely right!!!

I wish IdrA commented on some of these.... but I think he's banned... or something... so I think I wish he quoted some of posts from TL in the "imbalanced show".... I'd love to hear what he has to say.
Underdroned? Idra had like 70 drones at 10 minutes. He way OVERdroned, if he hadn't made those 7 drones and had made 14 lings or 7 roaches instead, he'd have been completely fine against that attack.

He made no crawlers either, no burrow, nothing. I'm not sure if you're expecting a Zerg who has 7 roaches and 12 lings ready to defeat a 40 supply Protoss army?

I really love the results of Idra vs Cruncher, and Mondragon's awesome play. Really looking forward to seeing Mondragon in the ro16.
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Xanderk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States51 Posts
March 28 2011 03:23 GMT
#222
On March 28 2011 06:16 Daetien wrote:
Mondragon just showed Idra how to stop the Deathball...



Are you joking? ZeeRaX played horrible and never even got the chance to get a "deathball". Not taking anything away from mondragon because he responded well to ZeeRaXs build, but he by no means showed Idra anything. Not to mention, ZeeRaX did the same build twice after getting destroyed the first game.
Taniard
Profile Joined June 2010
United States114 Posts
March 28 2011 04:21 GMT
#223
Poor IdrA... Getting knocked out so fast must be frustrating... He hates that 5-6 gate rush too, feels it's pretty abusive... Tough to deal with, I lose to it a lot too :'(
An amateur practices until he can get it right, a professional practices until he can't get it wrong.
ambra
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy80 Posts
March 28 2011 07:22 GMT
#224
Idra didnt call gg, but typing that silly smile while everyone is watching is even more silly and shows how lacking of manners that guy is: that is stuff you save for private chat.
Discussing "who deserved to win" is kinda pointless for me: cruncher had the right units at the right time and in third game he had too much stuff... the fact that he was completely outclassed in the second game doesnt make up for the other two.

I'm just disappointed for idra and I hope cruncher gets knocked out as soon as possible having lost all the credibility as a competitive player after that silly smile
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
March 28 2011 08:28 GMT
#225
On March 28 2011 16:22 ambra wrote:
Idra didnt call gg, but typing that silly smile while everyone is watching is even more silly and shows how lacking of manners that guy is: that is stuff you save for private chat.
Discussing "who deserved to win" is kinda pointless for me: cruncher had the right units at the right time and in third game he had too much stuff... the fact that he was completely outclassed in the second game doesnt make up for the other two.

I'm just disappointed for idra and I hope cruncher gets knocked out as soon as possible having lost all the credibility as a competitive player after that silly smile


There was a reason for that smiley and it was 100% justified.
ambra
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy80 Posts
March 28 2011 09:23 GMT
#226
acting unprofessionaly in a professional context is never justified: you look like another underaged prick and make your own team look ridiculous too.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 28 2011 12:02 GMT
#227
On March 28 2011 18:23 ambra wrote:
acting unprofessionaly in a professional context is never justified: you look like another underaged prick and make your own team look ridiculous too.


Isn't this what IdrA is pretty well known for? Not to mention the BM in the interview, the BM in the chat prior to game 3. And you think Cruncher is the more unprofessional player over a smiley?
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
March 28 2011 12:18 GMT
#228
On March 28 2011 18:23 ambra wrote:
acting unprofessionaly in a professional context is never justified: you look like another under-aged prick and make your own team look ridiculous too.


Oh please... idra not gg'n and talking complete trash in interviews beforehand is ok... but a isn't?

You look like a complete moron for saying this nonsense.

Idra deserves all the "BM" he gets for the immaturity he displays on a daily basis. I'm a fan of his play, but the way he acts is exactly as you are describing others. "Look like another under-aged prick" = idra with the way he acts. Your Idra can do no wrong attitude is asinine.

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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 28 2011 13:04 GMT
#229
After watching this I just had to come back and read this. Just to read crazy predictions like "CrunCher is a creative and dedicated opponent, who will defy being underestimated. CrunCher will win." This tournament is really so damned good!
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 20:16:22
March 28 2011 16:48 GMT
#230
+ Show Spoiler +
no surprises here, mondragon showing why he was the best foreigner in BW at some point and idra being.. well idra xD

Oh man, that guy never fails to deliver (or does he? lol)
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UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
March 28 2011 17:45 GMT
#231
Well deserved win for coL.CrunCher! He made the right choice strategy-wise:
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Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 20:17:48
March 28 2011 20:15 GMT
#232
well I think you should use spoiler tags. I mean this thread is about a preview after all

When I come to think of it, I should probably do the same

€: hm or not, judging by the last posts xD
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Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 01:17:08
March 29 2011 00:57 GMT
#233
On March 28 2011 06:49 Cloud9157 wrote:
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On March 28 2011 05:42 Darkn3ss wrote:
On March 28 2011 05:20 trembol wrote:
creating more drones when you are seeing a push was best reaction from idra oO


Of course, because underdroned zerg on equal bases is fully capable of maintaining constant unit production to be able to combat a 6-gate... you're absolutely right!!!

I wish IdrA commented on some of these.... but I think he's banned... or something... so I think I wish he quoted some of posts from TL in the "imbalanced show".... I'd love to hear what he has to say.


Except that there was no way Cruncher's economy was even with Idra's if he was going to commit to a 5 gate attack.

Remember: When Zerg scout a fast-expand, they have 2 choices, go attack to attempt to punish the Protoss for expanding early, or take a quick 3rd. Since Idra didn't attempt to attack, he should have a third and be scouting for the Protoss' tech. If he sees 5/6 gates, guess what? Make some spines/roaches/speedlings.


U take third when you scout a 6 gate and manage to get enough units out? Cool stuff, man! I think I want some lessons from you! IdrA should probably look into a session or two as well...

I hope you also realize that if toss sees a looot of units/spines he can just... not attack and go back to his base and tech, maybe take another base? He already did dmg he had to do by forcing a fuckton of useless defense without really doing anything insane...

But it's whatever. Cruncher is not even close to IdrA's skill level and that was clearly shown in first half of game 1 and throughout game 2. I was pretty shocked that Jinro lost to Morrow and IdrA couldn't beat cruncher btw... it's whatever tho.

GSL Korea vs World last night was epic as fuck! ^^

On March 28 2011 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
Underdroned? Idra had like 70 drones at 10 minutes. He way OVERdroned, if he hadn't made those 7 drones and had made 14 lings or 7 roaches instead, he'd have been completely fine against that attack.

He made no crawlers either, no burrow, nothing. I'm not sure if you're expecting a Zerg who has 7 roaches and 12 lings ready to defeat a 40 supply Protoss army?

I really love the results of Idra vs Cruncher, and Mondragon's awesome play. Really looking forward to seeing Mondragon in the ro16.


Yes, because queens, roaches and lings don't take supply. Did you check his saturation? Did that look overdroned? It was almost saturated... not quite... not overdroned by any means. Idra did make more units once he had the larva but since he lsot those roaches for free (forcefields) it didn't matter how many more units he made since it was half of what he coulda had if he fought on "even ground"...

Also I was stating that if he had made more units earlier he would have been underdroned. Also that fight would have been a lot closer if not for the forcefields... so basically zerg, who has to sacrifice drones to make fighting units, has to have double the amount of units (not exactly) to be able to beat this sort of attack simply because of forcefields... sure, it all makes perfect sense! IdrA is a baddie!
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
March 29 2011 01:22 GMT
#234
On March 28 2011 18:23 ambra wrote:
acting unprofessionaly in a professional context is never justified: you look like another underaged prick and make your own team look ridiculous too.


Did you see Idra's trash talking in betwee the games? In most tournaments that would warrant penalty points that count towards a DQ. Cruncher's smiley was more than justified. Many people have schadenfreude about Idra's loss because his immaturity is catching up to him.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 14:55:18
March 29 2011 14:51 GMT
#235
On March 29 2011 09:57 Darkn3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
Underdroned? Idra had like 70 drones at 10 minutes. He way OVERdroned, if he hadn't made those 7 drones and had made 14 lings or 7 roaches instead, he'd have been completely fine against that attack.

He made no crawlers either, no burrow, nothing. I'm not sure if you're expecting a Zerg who has 7 roaches and 12 lings ready to defeat a 40 supply Protoss army?

I really love the results of Idra vs Cruncher, and Mondragon's awesome play. Really looking forward to seeing Mondragon in the ro16.


Yes, because queens, roaches and lings don't take supply. Did you check his saturation? Did that look overdroned? It was almost saturated... not quite... not overdroned by any means. Idra did make more units once he had the larva but since he lsot those roaches for free (forcefields) it didn't matter how many more units he made since it was half of what he coulda had if he fought on "even ground"...

Also I was stating that if he had made more units earlier he would have been underdroned. Also that fight would have been a lot closer if not for the forcefields... so basically zerg, who has to sacrifice drones to make fighting units, has to have double the amount of units (not exactly) to be able to beat this sort of attack simply because of forcefields... sure, it all makes perfect sense! IdrA is a baddie!

Yes, it looked overdroned. It wasn't even 9 minutes into the game.

"Overdroning" is not the same thing as "oversaturating". If a terran 2rax rushes you and you have no units and full drone saturation on both of your bases and you lose, you overdroned.

Zerg also doesn't have to "lose" drones to make units, he can just keep making 2 drones at a time like a Protoss can, and also make 6-8 attacking units at a time. Most Zergs prefer getting a headstart with mass drones though, but that doesn't mean that they're getting behind when they start making only attacking units. They actually got an advantage by doing it that way.

Protoss army actually requires Force Fields to fight against a Zerg army on an even footing, otherwise they get completely crushed.

Zerg doesn't need double the amount of units, actually just a 1:1 ratio of Roach : Gateway units is more than enough to defend because of the quicker reinforcements. They also cost less, so I'm not sure what you're saying?

Idra definitely overdroned.
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