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[TSL] Day 1 Recap and Interviews

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TSL3 Round of 32 Day 1 Recap
by heyoka and Lovedrop


The opening day of TSL3 lived up to its hype. With the stream peaking at over 38,000, fans joined Chill and Day[9] for our first set of exciting matches. After four thrilling BO3s, Team Liquid recaps each individual game with VODs, and a player's interview is also included.

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Day 1: Battle Reports


[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`Tyler > [image loading] (T)mouz.Strelok
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P5 (P)Liquid`Tyler < Shakuras Plateau > (T)mouz.Strelok T11

The opening match of TSL3 is Liquid`Tyler, winner of TSL2, fighting mouz.Strelok, long time BroodWar veteran who earned his place in TSL3 through point standings. The map is Shakuras Plateau, a staple and fan favorite, Tyler on at the bottom right and Strelok top left.

Strelok opens with barracks command center, while Tyler starts safe with gate, robo, gate. Strelok's initial 3 marauders make their way to the bottom of Tyler's natural where they hole themselves up in a bunker, while Tyler makes a third gate and bolsters his force with an immortal and sentries. Strelok salvages bunker and leaves before any confrontation, Tyler takes his natural and adds a robotics bay while scouting the Terran base.

Strelok moves his modest marine-marauder force todards the Protoss base, and is caught offguard by forcefields splitting his army and dealing with each part effortlessly.

Tyler pushes towards Strelok's natural with his first colossus, traps the remaining marauders behind forcefields and crushes into the natural easily, Strelok is forced to tap out as a forcefield seals off his ramp. [11:17]

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P5 (P)Liquid`Tyler < Tal'Darim Altar > (T)mouz.Strelok T11

On the larger GSL map, Tal'Darim Altar, Strelok once again opens barracks command center, this time using his tech lab to produce a single reaper. Tyler also chooses a slight variation of last game, making two gates then robo before adding a third gateway.

Tyler delays colossus tech for early upgrades from two forges, the same as his first game against Strelok in Assembly. Strelok takes a third while attacking Tyler's front and simultaneously dropping in back, both attempts thwarted without much damage. Tyler begins colossus production as his 2/2 is finishing, and takes a third as he wander out to the middle of the map.

He walks across to Strelok's planetary fortress at his third, and is able to take it down but not before losing a large chunk of his army. Strelok has taken a somewhat hidden 4th during the combat, which Tyler soon discovers with a zealot. The lone unit goes to town on SCVs as an orbital watches, eventually racking up 24 kills and putting the protoss ahead by 10 workers.

The now 3/3 Protoss army easily takes out the re-populated 4th while Strelok drops, but Tyler's forces seem unstoppable as they barrel through everything Strelok can collect to fight. Strelok gives the GG as colossus, sentries, zealots, and stalkers make their way into his main base. [23:35]

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[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`Tyler < 2-0 > [image loading] (T)mouz.Strelok


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On March 20 2011 03:42 sAfuRos wrote:
WTF HOW TYLER LIVE


On March 20 2011 03:42 Aeres wrote:
OMG THAT ZEALOT


On March 20 2011 03:42 FrankWalls wrote:
wowwwwww what a hero


On March 20 2011 03:45 smallerk wrote:
Tyler why u so good!!!!!!!!!!! <3


On March 20 2011 03:45 [SuNdae] wrote:
My mind... it is blown. GG Tyler


On March 20 2011 03:46 ScaringKids wrote:
This was a great start for TSL. More EPIC matches inc for sure.


On March 20 2011 03:46 mordk wrote:
Amazing zealot. Why would you ever use DTs LOL


On March 20 2011 03:47 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
tyler so good.


On March 20 2011 03:49 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok.

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(Z)FnaticMSI.Sen > [image loading] (T)FnaticMSI.Fenix
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Z2 (Z)FnaticMSI.Sen < Metalopolis > (T)FnaticMSI.Fenix T8

Sitting at crossed positions on Metalopolis, Fenix opens standard and Sen feels safe enough to go hatch first. Fenix delays his orbital command and marine in order to get out a quick reaper. Skipping his reaper into Sen’s base, Fenix sees no potential threat. Fenix then goes 1/1/1 and makes a second CC. Staying true to his harassment style, Fenix begins blue-flamed hellions production and a single banshee for some map control. Meanwhile, Sen, in fear of some sort of timing attack, fortifies his defense with spines and roaches. Seeing his opponent has invested quite heavily into roaches, Fenix tries his luck and researches cloak for banshees. Unfortunately, Sen is already on top of things and has spore crawlers spread out between his bases, and promptly takes a quick third.

While the banshees are unable to inflict damage onto Sen’s main, Fenix uses them to pick off helpless roaches and lings while harassing the morphing third hatchery. Fenix sends a small MMM force to try and take down the third while Sen is low on units. The hatchery snipe is a success, but Fenix loses half his army in return.

Sen’s spire gets up extremely late due to Fenix’s harassment. Fenix pushes out but upon seeing an empty base where Sen’s fourth is supposed to be, Fenix contently hustles back to claim his gold as a 4th. Sen’s mutalisks freely soar into the main, picking off turrets and important add-ons. Sen oozes creep all over the bottom half of the map, effectively connecting all of his now running 5 bases.

Sen notices that all of Fenix’s units are defending his fragile gold base in the middle, and rams all his banelings onto the 11 o’clock base of Fenix, taking out half of the SCVs working there and the planetary itself. Fenix counterpushes toward the 6’o clock natural, but Sen’s maxed army of muta-baneling rolls in and easily demolishes the push, losing only an empty hatchery. Baneling kamikaze seems to be the flavor of the month and Sen is loving it, destroying another plantetary at the gold, along with 20+ SCVs, effectively reducing Fenix to 1 ½ mining bases.

With the flock of mutas flying around and harassing each base, Fenix is reduced to 44 SCVs, and half the supply that of Sen’s. The planetary at the gold is taken out once again, and Fenix’s counterpush yields on result, forcing a GG from the Peruvian Terran. [28:24]

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Z6 (Z)FnaticMSI.Sen < Terminus RE > (T)FnaticMSI.Fenix T6

Fenix does not deviate from his opening from game 1, opting for a strong harass-based play with hellions and banshees. While Sen prepares for every possible aspect of harassment, the banshee denies him any sort of map presence. Sen’s third comes up much quicker than Fenix, and knowing that he was not able to inflict any further damage with banshees, Fenix begins his third as well.

With Sen’s third being so close to Fenix’s main, a simple drop by Fenix slows down Sen’s mining greatly. Sen takes a fourth before Fenix’s third begins to saturate fully. A blunder by Sen as his mutalisks engage head on with stimmed marines and medivacs, losing a few in the process. Fenix pushes out and sieges up right outside Sen’s fourth center base. Sen takes his 25 banelings, loops around the back of Fenix’s army, and wipe out Fenix’s army with ease, retaining every single mutalisk.

While the mutalisks fly into Fenix’s main, they were only able to take out a few turrets and SCVs, but the concentration it took from Sen cost him his 5th base over at 8 o’ clock from an octodrop. Fenix’s hidden CC at 12 o’ clock is scouted by a few stranded zerglings, and Fenix once again feels that it is time to push out. This time at the plate is a huge serving of Zergling sandwich, smothering Fenix as the tanks cannot fire fast enough to clear out the zerglings.

Sen picks off Fenix’s reinforcing marines and thors, and pushes into his production facilities. Sen is a bit too greedy in his endeavor, losing all his mutalisks and zerglings, running back home with just a handful.

With a 60 supply lead and nearly 30 more harvesters, things are looking quite bleak for Fenix. The mutalisks refuse to stop their obnoxious harassment, chewing through a lot of Fenix’s buildings with their +2 attack upgrade. Once Sen’s maxed army has noticed Fenix’s sole functioning base, the muta-baneling skims by and knocks FnaticMSIFenix out of TSL3. [25:57]

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(Z)FnaticMSI.Sen < 2-0 > [image loading] (T)FnaticMSI.Fenix


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On March 20 2011 04:00 Cofo wrote:
That is many lairs, yes?


On March 20 2011 04:08 Rinrun wrote:
MY GOODNESS. Sen so beautiful.


On March 20 2011 04:10 Nooreo wrote:
oh the humanity!


On March 20 2011 04:12 CampinSam wrote:
SO MANY BANELINGS!


On March 20 2011 04:12 Cadaver!! wrote:
New guiness world record: 3 PFs blown up bye banes. :D


On March 20 2011 04:13 TemplarCo. wrote:
that is how you play zerg.... holly shit... THAT'S WHAT I CALL MACRO!!!!


On March 20 2011 04:17 Invictus wrote:
fk TSL 3 is so addictive im going to fail my exams next week


On March 20 2011 04:22 ChaosArcher wrote:
almost 100 freaking pages...
in 1 hour!
this tsl is breaking every record!!! :O


On March 20 2011 04:29 Cofo wrote:
God, I never thought I'd say this, but I wish my layover was longer! I have a plane to catch. Guess I'll have to catch up later on the VODs.


On March 20 2011 04:36 sl wrote:
THIS is why sen is my fav zerg!


On March 20 2011 04:36 mizU wrote:
GG holy sen.

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(Z)TSL_FruitDealer
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T7 (T)ThorZaIN < Xel'Naga Caverns > (Z)TSL_FruitDealer Z1

One of the more anticipated matchups of the ro32, Thorzain is universally considered a heavy underdog. Meanwhile FruitDealer is looking to reclaim his former glory, having underperformed in the months following GSL1. Thorzain begins with 2 barracks, to FruitDealer's hatch before pool.

Thorzain's initial pressure does minimal damage, as the marines are never able to go inside the bunker. The second try is more successful, a handful of marines stop mining at the Zerg expansion and kill off a few drones, lings, and the queen. As Thorzain techs to blue flame hellions, FruitDealer begins morphing banelings, preparing for a bust.

Despite breaking in, Zerg is unable to make any progress once inside as hellions and marines clean up the remaining lings. As Thorzain repairs his wall, FruitDealer morphs more banelings and readies attempt number two. Embarassingly, the banelings kill an addon and nothing else, zerglings are forced to hang their heads and run back home.

Thorzain denies Zerg's attempt to take the gold, maintaining map presence with hellions and marine drops. His army seiged up in the center, FruitDealer runs around with roaches and finds his way to Terran's natural and begins to kill what he can. Thorzain's marines arrive before too much damage is done, and Thorzain begins to set up at the gold while FruitDealer burrows banelings in wait. Thorzain's army finds itself directly on top of them.

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FruitDealer takes both side expansions as Thorzain turrets up his gold. Thorzain finds one of them and takes it out before mutas clean up his medivac, taking his 4th while FruitDealer rebuilds in the same spot. The two trade expansions, putting them back at 2 mining bases a piece (though Terran has gold). FruitDealer's mutas are able to kill some tanks and a thor, but his gorund forces are cleaned up too quickly and he is forced to leave when the mutas meet their demise. [25:35]


T3 (T)ThorZaIN < Terminus RE > (Z)TSL_FruitDealer Z6

Thorzain opens with a build rarely seen TvZ; the fast command center. FruitDealer begins as one might expect, hatch before pool, then quickly starts on roach production after seeing the cc. Thorzain then makes another command center off just five marines, taking full advantage of the terrain in Terminus RE. FruitDrealer walks several roaches to Thorzain's front door, but is unable to break in or kill anything significant.

As FruitDealer takes his third and begins morphling lings, Thorzain scans walks into the creep to kill tumors. FruitDealer finds him with banelings and takes out the force, after which he takes a 4th base. Thorzain's economy is running quite heavy by now, and he continues aggression by dancing marines near the natural choke and killing tumors.

As Thorzain begins sieging tanks further into the middle of the map, FruitDealer attempts to harass with mutas. They are not long for this world, however, their numbers are quickly thinned as they run into a thor, turrets, and marines. FruitDealer attempts to run around the Terran force, but is unable to advance past tanks and marines at the natural as Thorzain kills the Zerg's fourth base.

Thorzain has full control of the center of the map, expanding towards Zerg and looking to choke him out. As Thorzain has been maxed for some time, FruitDealer's last hope is a nydus worm in the back of the Terran main. As units pour out, Thorzain chooses to ignore them and run into Zerg's natural and quickly kill both the natural and third hatchery. He Setting up enough tanks in his own expansions, FruitDealer is down for the count when his attack dies off as his own main is being slaughtered. [23:00]

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[image loading] (T)Prae.ThorZaIN < 2-0 >
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(Z)TSL_FruitDealer


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On March 20 2011 04:51 Crebstar wrote:
WOW THORZAIN is solid. I LOVE that opening vs zerg


On March 20 2011 04:59 blade55555 wrote:
wowow Thorzain is just rolling fruitdealer in this game. Fruit can't do nothing.


On March 20 2011 05:02 JWD wrote:
"WELCOME TO THE FOREIGNER SCENE"


On March 20 2011 05:02 OTIX wrote:
SWEDEN SWEDEN SWEDEN!!


On March 20 2011 05:02 bRuTaL!! wrote:
MYYYY BRAAAAAACKET!!!!


On March 20 2011 05:05 MatrixX wrote:
Ok,wtf is in the water in Sweden? So many good players coming out of there. Impressive play by Thorzain.


On March 20 2011 05:20 underscore wrote:
Fruitdealer totally outclassed o.o
Didn't expect that


On March 20 2011 05:23 qanik wrote:
So TSLfruitdealer getting knock out of TSL? how ironic.


On March 20 2011 05:23 instantdry wrote:
gg


On March 20 2011 05:23 bara wrote:
wow


On March 20 2011 05:23 Gesperrt wrote:
BAM.

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P1 (P)Prae.NightEnD < Xel'Naga Caverns > (T)SlayerS_BoxeR T7

Boxer opens standard but as soon as he chases out Nightend’s probe, Boxer takes all SCVs off of gas for a quick CC after 1 marine. Nightend makes his own nexus after 2 gateways, and Boxer is confident in his defense with pure marines, as he’s teching up while slowly building additional SCVs before floating his CC to the natural. Boxer moves out with 2 medivacs as stim finishes but this act delays his expansion saturation, as Nightend is fully mining even though it is Boxer who had made the CC first.

The observer closely follow Boxer, leaving no opening for Boxer to abuse and is forced to pull back. Nightend stay on 1 robotic facility while pumping out colossus, and adds two stargates. Boxer parks his units outside Nightend’s base and is slow to react as force fields corner his units, losing 12 supplies before he has to pack up and head home. Boxer takes the gold immeadiately as Nightend’s observer scouts it out, and Nightend respond by taking his own third at the 11 o’ clock base.

A period of lull occurs as both players max out their armies. Boxer’s massive army hugs his gold base, while Nightend moves into position along the left Xel’Naga watchtower. Both players throw their army at each other, with EMPeror Boxer coming out on top. Boxer moves the rest of his marauders into the third, where an unfortunate disconnect happens. The TSL panel rewards Boxer with the win after thorough investigation and review. More information regarding the result of this game can be found here. [19:00]

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P5 (P)Prae.NightEnD < Tal'Darim Altar > (T)SlayerS_BoxeR T11

Boxer proxys two barracks in the middle of the map as he has not scouted where Nightend could possibly be. Boxer moves in with two SCVs and two concussive-shelled marauders, and Nightend is forced to pull probes. The two SCVs gets sniped by the stalker, and Boxer is constantly reinforcing with more marauders. Given the slow firing rate of marauders, Boxer is pushed back and as warp gate kicks in, Nightend overwhelms Boxer with 139 HP left on his warp gate. The gateway units pick off the tech labs before Boxer could finish stim. Nightend expands behind his push but as he is met with bunkers, smartly retreats and continue to widen his 10 food lead.

Boxer pushes out with a small force once his natural is saturated, and parks himself below Nightend’s natural. Nightend leaves Boxer to roam the map freely, but he is first to sneak in a 4th base at the 9 o’ clock expansion. Once again both players are maxed out but neither look poised to engage. Boxer adds orbital commands in order to reduce the amount of supplies needed for SCVs, and gets upgrades and factories ready for a thor-heavy mech switch. In the same fashion, Nightend murders his zealots in order to make room for high Templars. Boxer’s form of freeing up supply continues with drops, none of which are really effective. One drop leaves a nexus with 93 HP, while the others’ unit are all dangling mid-air thanks to graviton beams.

The huge engagement happens outside Boxer’s natural, with EMPs only hitting a few stalkers, leaving the high Templars to freely carpet storm the Terran ball. Nightend reinforces with 20 stalkers, and his deathball does not look any smaller as time goes by. Nightend sends units all over the map to look for any sort of possible comeback Boxer could make. Upon finding the five factories at the bottom of the map, Boxer’s thors stand no chance against the Protoss army and Nightend ties up the series. [34:58]

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P5 (P)Prae.NightEnD < Crevasse > (T)SlayerS_BoxeR T11

Boxer skips his gas and starts his command center before even his first marine. Nightend does not feel as safe and makes 2 gateways before his own nexus. Boxer makes another barracks before teching up to ensure he’ll have enough units to defend. Meanwhile, Nightend stocks up on sentries and scouts out Boxer’s base. Boxer loads up 2 medivacs and heads down to Nightend’s natural, but is quickly scouted out by the observer.

A brave marine darts into Nightend’s base and gets a good glimpse at what Nightend is up to. Boxer rallies his units to the middle of the map but is slow to take a third, as Nightend is already beginning to saturate his. Both players look content to max out their armies while slowly gulping up the map.

Boxer makes the first move and stims in to take out Nightend’s potential 4th base. Boxer has a numerous amount of vikings that can easily one shot colossus. Boxer engages Nightend’s 3rd at a terrible angle, but landing crucial EMPs onto Nightend’s army, rendering the phoenixes useless and puts down Nightend’s 3rd. With weakened units, Boxer withdraws temporarily to regroup while leading the food count by nearly 60 food.

Once maxed, Boxer once again storms in and while it is a huge blunder to not focus down colossus with his vikings, the overwhelming amount of units power through Nightend, knocking the Romanian Protoss out of TSL3. [24:38]

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(P)Prae.NightEnD < 1-2 >
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On March 20 2011 06:35 cheesemaster wrote:
YES BOXER OGMOM GOMGO G M


On March 20 2011 06:35 Graham wrote:
WOOO
BOXER CRUSHESS!!
:D


On March 20 2011 06:36 Aegeis wrote:
BOXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 20 2011 06:40 Draconicfire wrote:
BOXERRRRRRRRRR


On March 20 2011 06:40 SpiZe wrote:
BOXER!

BOXER!

THE EMPEROR! THE EMPEROR!




[image loading] TLAF-Liquid`Tyler [image loading]
Post-game Interview


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Q: Congrats! How do you feel?

Amazing. Very relieved. It's just the first round of the tournament and for a second I was so happy I felt like I won the whole thing haha.

Q: What was your game plan going into these games?

Mainly I wanted to play safe and work the mid game and late game. I have some timing attacks in my arsenal but they're situational. I wasn't planning on forcing anything.

Q: Take us through your thoughts for game 1.

When I saw his marauders at the bottom of my ramp, I thought he was going to try to attack up my ramp. Then when I saw the bunker, I thought it was a clever way to delay my expansion a bit. I was hoping to break him up and counterattack but then his bunker had disappeared haha. So I took my expansion and started planning for the next stage of the game. When I saw his MM camping outside my base, I stared at them until I thought he was looking back at his base, then I moved in for some force fields.

Q: In game 2 you went for a unique build, double upgrades before colossus. Why did you do this strategy and how did it work out?

It's my favorite build for PvT nowadays. I think it's the most solid style of play. When I'm at 15 or 20 minutes into the game and I don't at least have 2-2 upgrades, I feel so fragile. As long as I can minimize damage from medivac drops, I can eventually build a very powerful army at around 170-200 supply. So the focus of the build is late game. The build worked out pretty well. Eventually when he has a lot of marauders and I have a lot of zealots, my zealots just dont ever die and his marauders have to keep running away.

Q: Did you know how far behind in supply you were in game 2? Did you know that one of your zealots got 20+ kills at Strelok's fourth expansion?

I knew I had lost too many units while killing the PF. I mismanaged that for sure. But one of the strengths of getting good upgrades is having incredible units for the rest of the game. It's not just one timing. So I've had "comebacks" a lot with that build.

That zealot was quite the hero. I kept checking back to it so I would know about how much damage it was doing, so I could judge the timing for my next attack, and how aggressive I needed to be. I was a little amused when the scv's were attacking the zealot with +3 armor. I saw the mules land and I thought "I've gotta win the game now. This zealot has done too much damage for me to not win the game" so I pretty much just marched across the map and kept reinforcing units with a proxy pylon and it worked!

Q: Your next opponent is either Thorzain or FruitDealer. Who would you like to play? You'll have quite some time to practice.

I think it goes without saying that Thorzain looks like the easier opponent at this point. I also feel like my PvT is in better shape than my PvZ right now. But I want to play FruitDealer. I can beat him and I want to show everyone that I can beat him.

Q: Your road to the finals is a tough one. How far ahead do you look? Or do you take it just one round at a time? What will be your mindset going into these next weeks?

I stay focused on my immediate match until I feel prepared for it. When I am settled on how I'm going to play each map, I'll start looking ahead. My mindset is winning TSL3 but I take it one step at a time. You don't earn the championship just in the finals. You earn it in every match.

Q: Do you have anyone you want to thank for practicing with you for this match?

Hmm no one in particular to thank haha. This was pretty much all me. I hammer out builds in single player and I stay sharp by playing ladder.

Q: Any last words for your fans?

HUGE thanks to my fans. I think they've easily supported me more than anyone else's fans have supported them. Fraidnot's blog, Arisen's support thread, folks like wacksteven and Psylence who give me free stuff, a few videos were made (sorry not sure who made them!), and everyone posting in my fan club thread, watching my stream and following me on twitter. It's all pretty amazing and I'm really happy I could show you guys some wins!



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Post-game Interview


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Q: You had to play vs your teammate Fenix today. Is he a player you've played a lot of games against?

Yes I know I have to play the opponent I don't want to face the most. I usually don't practice against Fenix because of the time zone. I think I played well today, and I really liked that TSL made balance decisions like no close-spots Metalopolis which is my ZvT nightmare.

Q: Fenix tried a lot of harassment play, from reapers, hellions, banshees to drops. Were you expecting this kind of play from him?

Actually, I rarely play against Terrans with that kind of style, but I just observed his openings and prepared against any strategy he might use. Zerg always needs to predict and prepare for what Terran might do in a game.

Q: In the first game you took a lot of damage from a hellion drop, and also lost your third hatchery to banshees and marines. How did you manage to come back and win the game?

Yes, I really took a lot of damage from those two attacks, and it made me a little nervous that I lost a lot of my income. I think if Fenix did a timing attack I would have just lost the game. Fortunately he didn't, giving me enough time to replenish my drones before his armies arrived.

Q: Your next opponent will be the winner of Boxer vs Nightend. Who do you want to face?

I want Boxer the most, he was a legend in SC1. Before, when I was also an SC1 player, me and everybody else wanted to play against him. He is really gosu and I might have a worse chance against him, but as a gamer I love a big challenge like that.

Q: Any final comments?

Hope you guys enjoy my games, and thanks to everyone who supported me. See you next round!



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Post-game Interview


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Q: Many people expected FruitDealer to win easily, but you managed to pull off a big upset. How do you feel right now?

I feel so [expletive] amazing. I can't really describe how I feel right now. Just incredible. My hands still hurt right now. For some reason I clapped my hands with all my strength for one minute after I won the deciding game.

Q: FruitDealer went for some early game pressure in both games, did you expect him to play that way?

I knew that he can be a very aggressive player sometimes. In the first game he had some leftover zerglings after my 2 rax pressure, so I guess he wanted to put them to use and made some banelings. Unfortunately I miss-blocked my choke with my factory so he only had to blow up a depot to get into my base. The second game, I didn't play against that kind of roach pressure during practice but I don't think it worked out the way he wanted to because I scouted it quite early.

Q: For the game on Terminus, you came out with an interesting but seemingly risky double expansion strategy. How much time and effort went into this build?

The map is so huge that I felt that I would dare to take the risk. It's obviously vulnerable to early pools and such but I felt that I needed to take the risk to have a good chance in the game. I did find out just like an hour before the game that it's really vulnerable against a certain strategy though, but I didn't have time to change my build and just prayed that FD wouldn't use it against me.

Q: You used a very safe and strong macro style to win both games. Is that your favorite way of playing, or is it just how the games ended up being today?

The games went just where I expected them to except for the early aggression on his part. I like to do very macro oriented games (game 2) and some lesser macro oriented games (game 1, very late third meaning my push had to do damage, which it did). I rarely all-in rush though.

Q: Your next opponent will be the winner of Liquid`Tyler vs Strelok. What do you think of these players, and who would you rather face?

I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely. I would much rather play against Tyler however, because TvT definitely is my weakest match up right now.

Q: Any last comments?

I hope that the community won't just blame my victory on lag on his part ^^. I actually had some lag spikes too even though yeah, he probably had it as well. I think that he might just have not prepared as much as I prepared for the game. I feel a bit sad for him though because of his pre-game interview where he seemed eager to "win his foreign fans back". Cheer for me vs Tyler/Strelok. I will do my best to be the big upset in this tournament! Praetoriani fighting ~~

Oh and thanks to everyone who practiced with me to prepare for this game, you know who you are!

Big thanks!



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Post-Game Interview

Korean Version: + Show Spoiler [Korean Version - 한국어 원문] +
NightEnd 선수 상대로 나름데로 고전하는 스코어 2-1로 승리 했습니다. 외국인 프로게이머들 중에서도 의외로 Nightend 선수의 승을 점친 선수들도 많았는데 승리한 소감이랑 NightEnd 선수에대한 평가를 한다면?

승리한 소감 : 음 경기전에 나이트엔드 선수에 대해서 어느정도 분석을 하고.. 준비를 했는데 세경기 전부 예상밖에 전략을 쓰더군요. 하지만 뭐 그런 전략에 대해서 연습이 안되어 있는건 아니라서 나름 대처를 잘 해나갔던것 같습니다 그리고 우리나라서버가 아닌 다른 나라 서버에서 처음 경기를 해봤는데 음.. 느낀점이 상당히 많았고 경기할때 환경에 대해서도 생각을 많이 하고 경기준비를 해야 겠다고 느꼈습니다. NightEnd 선수에대한 평가를 한다면 ? 2경기에서 불의의 일격을 당했는데 찌르는 타이밍도 좋고. 하지만 다음에 다시 만난다면 조심해야 될 선수중에 하나라고 생각합니다 다음 질문 주세용.

1경기에서 연결이 끊어져서 안타깝게도 판정으로 경기 결과를 결정했는데 판정 과정이 만족스러웠습니까? 그리고 우세승 판정 자체에 대해 어떻게 생각합니까 ?

TSL 에서 준비한 패널 시스템에 의해서 판정이 났는데 .. 그런 패널시스템에 의해서 결정됐지만 NightEnd선수에 대해선 개인적으로 유감스럽게 생각한다 본인도 썩 개운하진 않다. 그리고 1경기 내용으로 볼때 경기 자체가 8:2 정도로 유리했던것은 맞는것 같다 다음 질문 주세용.

2경기에서 전진 배럭을 시전했는데, 프로브 피해를 입혔지만 본인도 피해를 입었습니다. 그때 상황을 설명한다면?

해외서버에서 다시는 컨트롤을 요하는 전략을 쓰지 않아야 겠다는 생각을 했다 ^^;;

200 대 200 싸움을 여러번 했는데, 이때 테란 조합이 프로토스 조합상대로 싸울만하다고 생각합니까?

토스 진영에서 싸우면 불리하다고 생각한다. 내 본진에서 멀면 내 유닛은 채우기가 힘들고 토스는 차원관문으로 바로바로 채울수 있기 때문이다. 센터진영에서 교전을 벌이면 컨트롤 여하에 따라 판가름 날수 있다고 생각한다. 그리고 업그레이드가 되면 될수록 테란쪽이 불리해지는건 어쩔수 없는것 같다. 프로토스는 포지에서 공방업을 하면 관문유닛은 물론 로보계열 유닛까지 업그레이드가 되지만 테란은 아모리와 엔지니어링 베이에서 따로 업그레이드를 해야 해서 훨씬 업그레이드를 하기 힘들기 때문이다. 장기전으로 가면 갈수록 테란이 불리하다고 생각한다.


슬레이어즈 클랜을 창단하게 되었습니다. 팀으로서의 목표가 무엇입니까? 클랜원을 선발 할 때 어떤 점을 고려합니까? 잠재력이 많은 신예들을 소개한다면?

팀의 목표는 ‘함께 실력을 향상시키고 팀의 위상을 높이자’ 이죠. 애초에 팀을 만들때 네임드를 원하지 않았던 이유도 앞으로 충분히 가능성이 있는 친구들과 함께 실력을 증진 시키고싶어서 였습니다. 현재 팀에서 그러한 저의 의도를 그대로 보여준 친구가 몇 있습니다.

다음 상대는 Sen 과 Fenix 의 승자입니다. 어느 선수와 경기를 하는것을 선호합니까?

아마도... 제 입장에서는 Sen보다 Fenix와 경기하는 것을 더 선호하지만 . 오늘의 경기하면서 느낀점을 감안한다면 Fenix가 Sen을 상대하기 이전에 "테란" 이 "저그" 라는 종족 자체를 이기기 힘들듯 하다.


마지막으로 할 말이 있다면?

스타2에서 처음으로 해외대회를 치르게 되서 기쁘고 첫 해외 대회이니만큼 해외 팬들의 많은 관심을 받을수 있도록 노력하겠다. 좋은 경기를 보여드리겠다.

네, 감사합니다 그리고 판정과정이 너무 오래걸려서 죄송합니다

아닙니다 고생하셨습니다

16강에서 행운을 빕니다

넵 수고하세요


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Q: You won a tough series against NightEnd 2-1, a series that many foreign players had predicted NightEnd would win. How do you feel now, and what do you think of your opponent?

We tried to analyze NightEnd a bit before the games, and prepared based on that, but for all three games he used strategies I did not expect. But it's wasn't as if I hadn't prepared those strategies at all, so I think I adjusted to them pretty well.

Also, this is the first time I've played games on a server outside Korea, hmmm... I felt a lot of things, among which that I should prepare differently based on the environment. I thought NightEnd's attack timing in Game 2 was good, and I took an unexpected blow. I think he's a player I'll have to look out for if I face him again.

Q: Unfortunately, there was a disconnect in game 1, and we were forced to go the panel's decision. Were you satisfied with the decision making process, and what did you think of being awarded the win?

The game was decided by the panel system used by the TSL... I feel terrible for NightEnd, and I don't feel that great about it myself. But if I had to say, I thought I had around an 8:2 lead in game 1.

Q: You used a proxy 2 Rax in game 2. What was your reason for using this strategy?

I thought that on foreign servers, I shouldn't use a micro-intensive strat again ^^;;

Q: You fought a lot of near max population fights. How do you think the maxed Terran army fairs against a maxed Protoss army?

I think you're at a disadvantage if you fight in Protoss territory. The further you are from your base, it's harder to reinforce your army, while Protoss can instantly reinforce using warpgates. If you fight towards the center of the map, then I think the battle can be swayed through micro. However, you can't do anything about the fact that Protoss is favored as more upgrades are completed. Protoss can upgrade both warpgate and robotics units at the forge, while Terran has a much more difficult time since they have to upgrade at both the engineering bay and armory.

The longer it goes, I think it gets worse for Terran.

Q: Your next opponent will be the winner of Sen vs Fenix. Who do you prefer to face?

Personally I would prefer to play Fenix over Sen, but what I thought as I played today's games was... Before “Fenix” can play “Sen,” you have to take into account that “Terran” is tough against “Zerg.”

Q: Any last comments?

I'm glad to compete in my first international SC2 tournament. Since it's a foreign tournament, I hope to gain the support and interest of many foreign fans. I'll try to play good games.

Thank you very much.




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Writerundefeated thunderdome champion 。゚+.(o´・ω・`o)+.゚。イィ!! :+:+: @lubdrop
Buckeye Bob
Profile Joined June 2009
United States86 Posts
March 20 2011 07:21 GMT
#2
Such amazing games today!!! Love TSL3!!!
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Phaded
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Australia579 Posts
March 20 2011 07:23 GMT
#3
Thanks for the writeup, love the fan reactions
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Crais
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Canada2136 Posts
March 20 2011 07:24 GMT
#4
Sweet thanks!
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TrueRedemption
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States313 Posts
March 20 2011 07:25 GMT
#5
Awesome write up guys, great interviews and solid recaps, rounding out a spectacular day of TSL.
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aiyeeta
Profile Joined June 2007
United States199 Posts
March 20 2011 07:25 GMT
#6
Was some great games! So happy to have reports like this and great interviews! Thank you so much guys!
"...And that was the first time I got crabs"
TripleCow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 07:26:57
March 20 2011 07:26 GMT
#7
Awesome writeup. Really interesting to see what Boxer thinks about competing against foreigners.

Quite honestly, the first day of TSL alone was more exciting than the GSL finals were.
Tyler: "I only needed one probe to take down IdrA. I had to upgrade to a zealot for Strelok."
Xtal
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Haiti385 Posts
March 20 2011 07:26 GMT
#8
haha they mostly all want to play people their not matched against..
Have you ever heard the story, about the Zergling and the Probe? The Probe didn't make it across the creep.
NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
March 20 2011 07:27 GMT
#9
nice games
nice interviews

Go Boxer!
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
March 20 2011 07:28 GMT
#10
Q: You used a proxy 2 Rax in game 2. What was your reason for using this strategy?

I thought that on foreign servers, I shouldn't use a micro-intensive strat again ^^;;


Glad that you learned your lesson
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
March 20 2011 07:28 GMT
#11
wow, a full recap and lengthy player interviews too, not even 24 hours after the games? tl never ceases to amaze
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Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 07:30:53
March 20 2011 07:29 GMT
#12
I'm glad to compete in my first international SC2 tournament. Since it's a foreign tournament, I hope to gain the support and interest of many foreign fans. I'll try to play good games.

Thank you very much.


You've got lots of fans and lots of support! GG and WP

++ thanks to TL writers/staff!! Recap and interviews are so fast!
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Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 07:31:28
March 20 2011 07:30 GMT
#13
Love these interviews. Always great to see the players perspective, winners seem to be pretty happy.

(ಥ_ಥ)
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 20 2011 07:32 GMT
#14
Since I didn't get to post this in the LR thread,

BOOOOXXXXXERRRRRRR!
kefif
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland264 Posts
March 20 2011 07:32 GMT
#15
How can you not like Thorzain? <3 I think Sen vs Boxer will be an awesome game =]
ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
March 20 2011 07:34 GMT
#16
I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely.
I just cannot help but feel that's a disservice to Tyler.
Feeling like everyone is going to underestimate Tyler...sigh*

Oh well, their loss since he's going to be winning the whole thing.

Also, YEAH BOXER!!!
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 07:35:02
March 20 2011 07:34 GMT
#17
YEAAAA
GO BOXER
Great job writing this though, I'm kinda sad I missed the game live :/
Great writeup as usual from the TL team

Edit: YAY GO SEN
Great to see that the Taiwanese player won :3
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
March 20 2011 07:34 GMT
#18
Can't believe how badly Fruitdealer played today...Oh well, Thorzain deserved the win for playing so solid.
Jaedong plz
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
March 20 2011 07:35 GMT
#19
ThorZaIN!!! You can tell how much he prepared and how much it meant for him. I'm pretty pissed off people are blaming FD's loss on lag and not just giving credit to ThorZaIN like it is do. Well played

Really nice games. Also, I liked how he didn't throw away his advantage or play risky trying to all in, he just played safe and compounded his advantage to a victory. So nice to see.
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SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
March 20 2011 07:35 GMT
#20
lol @ BoxeR saying he needs to gain more foreign fans, little does he know we all love the damn guy already!

as for the matches, Tyler's PvT looks very strong, I think he can take it vs ThorZain, and I would love to see him take it all the way to the finals!!
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 20 2011 07:36 GMT
#21
I loved Thorzain's interview, specially the part about how his hands hurt. Shows the excitement in a player winning a match such as that one
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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
March 20 2011 07:37 GMT
#22
Boxer!!! Love his responses the most.
Dear Sixsmith...
Chill
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Calgary25974 Posts
March 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#23
I love you Thorzain.
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barkles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States285 Posts
March 20 2011 07:40 GMT
#24
TYLER FIGHTING!!!

I was looking forward to Tyler vs Fruitdealer too, but I guess Thorzain will have to do hah.

On another note, I'm really digging the effort that's going into making the TSL3 a huge event with huge coverage.
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
March 20 2011 07:40 GMT
#25
On March 20 2011 03:49 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok.

hahaha brilliant
love the interviews, thanks.
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
March 20 2011 07:43 GMT
#26
When belief is rewarded it feels so damn good! Tyler Fighting!
xJonesy
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United Kingdom40 Posts
March 20 2011 07:43 GMT
#27
:D
BoxeR
and
ThorZaIN
^_^
yea boiiiiiiiii
NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
March 20 2011 07:49 GMT
#28
Thank you so much for the recap! I won't have time to watch the games for a few days, so this was a gem.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4704 Posts
March 20 2011 07:50 GMT
#29
Nice interview by Boxer, realy nice.
Pathetic Greta hater.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 20 2011 07:56 GMT
#30
Nony taking all the credit! played like a boss.
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
March 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#31
"For some reason I clapped my hands with all my strength for one minute after I won the deciding game." rofl
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
March 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#32
Thorzain knows tylers PvT now, thats unfortunate, all he has to do is prepare timings v tylers double forge build where its weak and GG unless tyler busts out some new strat, awesome write up and interviews though
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Harmonic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 08:26:32
March 20 2011 08:00 GMT
#33
Tyler's mindset of one match at a time fits this format so well, I can't wait to see his play in future games.

There seems to be a small formatting issue in Tyler's interview:
Edit: issue has been fixed
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
March 20 2011 08:03 GMT
#34
Tears welled up as I read Boxer's interview, so amazing and awesome to see the Emperor in a foreign tournament. TSL3 FIGHTING, BOXAH HWAITING~
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TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
March 20 2011 08:04 GMT
#35
On March 20 2011 16:57 shaunnn wrote:
Thorzain knows tylers PvT now, thats unfortunate, all he has to do is prepare timings v tylers double forge build where its weak and GG unless tyler busts out some new strat, awesome write up and interviews though


There's like one timing window where Tyler's build is weak, before +2 +2 finishes. That's really it though, it's just a very solid build, and you have to keep in mind just how good Tyler is. He knows what his weaknesses are, and has done his best to minimize them. I doubt we'll see it every game, but I have no doubt that Tyler is going to bust it out at least once, and I'd be surprised if he lost doing the double forge build.
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yolkjj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States19 Posts
March 20 2011 08:05 GMT
#36
awesome games. lol @ djwheat coming in out of no where. BOXER FTW! Tyler > thorzain Boxer > Sen (even though that will be a tough fight for boxer)
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 20 2011 08:06 GMT
#37
Man can't belive i missed this :/

thank you for the vods!
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theKOT
Profile Joined June 2009
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 08:12:48
March 20 2011 08:12 GMT
#38
The work the staff puts into this tournament really shines through and makes it much more enjoyable. These interviews, analyses, and fan reactions were good reads. Thank you to everyone working on the TSL!
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Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
March 20 2011 08:12 GMT
#39
Of course Thorzain curses in the interview.
Joo Se-Hyuk
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 20 2011 08:13 GMT
#40
Wow I love the instant interviews. Yeah technically we get them for GSL also but usually the translations come out a few days later so it doesn't have the 'wow that just happened' feeling.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 08:17:58
March 20 2011 08:17 GMT
#41
man i wish we got interviews from the losers, i really want to see what fruitdealer has to say, if it was latency that killed him or he just played bad or he got outplayed
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
March 20 2011 08:23 GMT
#42
Good god at Tyler's quote re probe and zealot. What a fucking baller. Tyler to win it all, you heard it here first.
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Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
March 20 2011 08:27 GMT
#43
Q: Any last comments?

I'm glad to compete in my first international SC2 tournament. Since it's a foreign tournament, I hope to gain the support and interest of many foreign fans. I'll try to play good games.

Thank you very much.


This part made me smile... still as humble as ever Boxer!

Tyler hwaiting!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 20 2011 08:31 GMT
#44
Awesome write up and a great cap off to the beginning of an amazing tournament! Tyler looking pretty solid at the moment;

Lol at boxer saying he had an 8:2 chance of winning.. commonly known as a 4:1 chance? So random haha ..

I don't think Boxer realises how many foreign fans he has haha his reputation has definitely carried through to SC2! The emperor!!1
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 20 2011 08:32 GMT
#45
Could someone provide translated feedback from the Korean community? That would be swell!
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 20 2011 08:33 GMT
#46
Big props to heyoka and lovedrop, nicely done write up . Grats to the winners, and even for the guys knocked out first round, you guys are awesome!

LiquidTyler for TSL champion^^
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
March 20 2011 08:34 GMT
#47
Taken from another thread.


On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
Let me translate the GOMTV netizen comments for you guys. (Since the google translate button doesn't seem to work too well)
Most of the comments are negative in regards to the overall skill level of players in the foreign scene. Korean netizens are brutal...


-"ThorZaIN, who knocked out Fruitdealer, plays very well..."

-"Was that really Fruitdealer? Why is he so bad???"

-"Can't do much about it... They're playing in 2-second delay after EMP conditions..."

-"Fruitdealer's condition is terrible... I wanted Korean dominance..."

-"The Nightend and Boxer game is SO boring. Seems like a game played in Korea 6 months ago. I'm yawning while watching this after having seen MC's dynamic playing. Battles after maxing armies... This was the reason they reviewed sc2 to be boring before."

-"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious."

-"It's been a while since I've seen a protoss using colossi... It's still far away for the foreign scene to catch up to our level of play."

-"Boxer's skill level... So bad."

-"I feel for boxer's current state in the game... Don't know about the Terran's side of play, but there were a lot of points when boxer could've poked and done some damage, yet he couldn't. T_T boxer fighting."

-"Can't make strong definitive attacks... Can't even hit code A round 16 wit this type of playing level..."

-"Not just being a boxer anti-fan, but if you seriously consider boxer's skill level, doesn't seem like he can even hit code A round of 8's."

-"Are these really matches played by progamers? Did I watch it wrong?"

-"The EMP missed by boxer, the early marauder control in game 2, etc., are apparently all due to the quake in Japan and the lag caused due to it.

And a few comments regarding the bad commentator (I guess for the Korean commentator who dubbed it, since Chill and Day9 are freakin awesome).


I'll update it more tomorrow, if you guys would like!
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 20 2011 08:34 GMT
#48
WOW, POST GAME INTERVIEWS? TSL really delivers!!! Thanks guys :D
Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
March 20 2011 08:37 GMT
#49
I'm getting nerd chills, thorzain played awesome, gogogo sweden!
Lose its good, after will be win.
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
March 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#50
really great games today. Looking forward to the rest of the tournament.
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#51
gotta love the interviews and all the hype, 30k+ VIEWS! awesome looking forward to MC's games as from GSL you can see why
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#52
Nice interviews! Watching the games I can't imagine anyone seriously blaming the lag as the only reason FD lost. ThorZain played amazingly and my guess is Fruitdealer underestimated him.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
March 20 2011 08:43 GMT
#53
wow these were up quick! gj team
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
March 20 2011 08:48 GMT
#54
will the VODs be released?
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 20 2011 08:49 GMT
#55
On March 20 2011 16:39 Chill wrote:
I love you Thorzain.


I love you Chill.

Best casting I have heard in a while...keep it up
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 20 2011 08:55 GMT
#56
zomg BOXER FIGHTING!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
March 20 2011 08:55 GMT
#57
Incredible writeup!
Thorzain really delivered yesterday =)
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
March 20 2011 09:05 GMT
#58
Boxer fighting! :D
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
March 20 2011 09:06 GMT
#59
BOXER FIGHTINGGGGGG OMFG.
Elegance, in all things.
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
March 20 2011 09:09 GMT
#60
I love all those interviews, makes it so much more fun to watch
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
March 20 2011 09:14 GMT
#61
awesome interviews, and very very awesome games today, was blown away by the preperation and well planned builds (thorzain made at least 1 new fan today, and i hate terran)

+ Show Spoiler +
as for Tyler vs Thorzain, i am really looking forward to that. Seeme like those are two players that will come VERY well prepared with a few tricks up their sleeves. Really really enjoyed thorzains overall gameplanning in both matches.


And people underestimating Tyler are fooling themselves, he took TSL2 with like 2 weeks of preperation after months of hiatus. If hes not chilling to much and putting the work and thougts into it, he´ll be dangerous to everyone in this tournament.
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
March 20 2011 09:18 GMT
#62
Boxer fighting!
Protoss...
Questo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden19 Posts
March 20 2011 09:19 GMT
#63
(T)ThorZaIN really amazed me, It's awesome to see a fellow countrymen win over a player like (Z)FruitDealer and the games was very entertaining to watch aswell.

Imo the best series of games in from Day 1 of TSL3. I was looking forward to see (T)BoxeR duke it out but the games weren't close to the entertainment value that ThorZaIN and Fruitdealer provided.
"A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing."
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
March 20 2011 09:20 GMT
#64
It's too bad the Koreans are playing with such lag, but what can you do I'm just glad we have them in the tournament
Penke
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden346 Posts
March 20 2011 09:22 GMT
#65
My bracket is still holding up! :D
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
March 20 2011 09:25 GMT
#66
Woot woot, nice interviews
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
March 20 2011 09:25 GMT
#67
The lag factor is seriously taking the massive, epic excitement I had for this tournament and shattering it.

I just can't enjoy a game knowing that every little detail is not as fair as possible between the two players. I feel like it was obvious that lag was dictating Boxer's very reserved playstyle against Nightend
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
March 20 2011 09:31 GMT
#68
Really nice interviews, and i'm so happy for Thorzain, can't wait to see him against Tyler. Thorzain's TvZ/P is pretty sick!
We make signature, then defense it.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 09:32:43
March 20 2011 09:31 GMT
#69
Was wondering why Boxer was uncharacteristically passive. I was disappointed but then i guess it is all justified. The earthquake is really unfortunate and messes up international connection from KR to overseas servers.

That said, credit to Thorzain though. He came up with solid builds and showed GSL level plays and execution as well as "starsense" Pretty impressive how meticulous he was with scanning the burrowed banelings.

I look forward to Tyler vs Thorzain because i feel like it will be a battle of preparation and who can come out with better builds and execution as they seems like very similar players.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
March 20 2011 09:34 GMT
#70
On March 20 2011 18:25 Carl_Sagan wrote:
The lag factor is seriously taking the massive, epic excitement I had for this tournament and shattering it.

I just can't enjoy a game knowing that every little detail is not as fair as possible between the two players. I feel like it was obvious that lag was dictating Boxer's very reserved playstyle against Nightend


I agree that lag takes away from the tournament, but I understand if you're going to have an international tournament online this problem may occur even between europe and USA... and they can't just fly everyone over.

The production value was the best I have ever seen in an online tournament, the verdict for the disconnect was just and well reviewed and the casting was tiptop (except excessive fanboyism from a certain somebody ).

The "fan comments" is so funny to read, we're almost on par with Justin Beiber fangirl-esque worship.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
March 20 2011 09:36 GMT
#71
TSL3 manage to set the bar for a well-run tournament so high!!!
Seriously, this is the best combination of pre-game hype & interviews, smooth casting, excellent games, and this perfect recap.

TSL3 is the gold standard for all future tournaments to strive for!!!
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
March 20 2011 09:39 GMT
#72
Really great tournament and interviews! props to everybody in TSL!


LOVE it!
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
March 20 2011 09:39 GMT
#73
Awesome interviews, high quality production as usual, props to all the staff involved in the TSL.
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 09:41:45
March 20 2011 09:41 GMT
#74
[edit: wrong thread] sorry
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
March 20 2011 09:45 GMT
#75
On March 20 2011 16:34 Kimaker wrote:
I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely.
I just cannot help but feel that's a disservice to Tyler.
Feeling like everyone is going to underestimate Tyler...sigh*

Oh well, their loss since he's going to be winning the whole thing.

Also, YEAH BOXER!!!

agreed Tyler smashed people dude.... like no joke
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
March 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#76
Really nice Recap and awesome day 1 of this great tourney :D

PS: How cool to find myself in the Fan reactions
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
March 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#77
Nice recap and interviews! Thanks TL for being awesome.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
March 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#78
This is the single best tournament i have ever watched EVER. for more reasons than i should probably post here, but i feel i need to share some anyways
1. This tournament has THE sickest production value of any tournament and since it is spaced out you really feel it and you get into every match. The pre/post game interviews are just phenomenal and lets not forget the art that was made for it and the fan reactions, all this combined just completely made me love this tournament.
2. Player Pool, this tourny has some of the sickest players and some underdogs that are defiantly skilled (like Thorzaine proved today!!!). I mean you really get into every players story and how they explain their mind set and the Brackets people made is just amazing.
3. IT IS THE TSL.... Seriously what more do you want =O
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Bartiemus
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand84 Posts
March 20 2011 09:55 GMT
#79
right 8 hours is enough time for me to sleep to bed a go dam time zones making me get up at 6 am
Id rather just kill you and call it a day.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
March 20 2011 10:05 GMT
#80
Aren't they alternating between Korean servers and EU/NA for the Korean players based on seeds?
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#81
Big props to TL for this. Amazing first day and it will only get better!
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Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
March 20 2011 10:18 GMT
#82
I really hoped for FruitDealer to win cus I'm a fan of him. But ThorZain really played amazing!
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
March 20 2011 10:18 GMT
#83
I'm happy and cheerful for all those who won and I'm sad and respectful for all those who lost.
I saw many wonderful games with interesting styles and strategies. The incredible ballsy play from Prae.ThorZaIN in game 2 of his series and the SlayerS_BoxeR DC drama, with the sudden cameo of DJWheat, were my highlight moments of the evening.

Great start for TSL3, can't wait for tonight's games.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
March 20 2011 10:20 GMT
#84
Despite all the hyping regarding just how good this tournament would be, I am still completely blown away with how much I enjoyed this first day's games, recaps, interviews, etc.

I can only hope that each day continues to be as fun as this one was.

Congrats on an excellent first day, TL.
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
March 20 2011 10:21 GMT
#85
champion going through, team kills, upsets, and drama... damn a lot of storyline in the first day
Prostak
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland192 Posts
March 20 2011 10:28 GMT
#86
So hyped for Thorzain now. Next target Tyler. Go for it dude.
GGs
♥ EmpireHappy, roxkisBratOK, imbaFXOStrelok EmpireNerchio, MǂStephano, mTwDIMAGA dignitasNaniwa, aTnSocke, DuckloadRa ♥
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
March 20 2011 10:41 GMT
#87
So sad FD lost! But Thorzain looks really strong will be interesting to see what he can do :D
Jazzi!
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
March 20 2011 10:44 GMT
#88
Great first day, can't wait for more!
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
March 20 2011 10:44 GMT
#89
8:2 lead, eh?

Lim Yo Hwan: Stats Major.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
March 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#90
Lol boxer is so humble and modest. How can you not love the guy, seriously?
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 11:03:16
March 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#91
Great interviews. So hyped for todays matches. Great upset by Thorzain and Tyler shows who's boss. Liquid hwaiting~


On March 20 2011 20:00 likeaboss wrote:
Lol boxer is so humble and modest. How can you not love the guy, seriously?

I know right, such a character.
really?
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
March 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#92
Man, Boxer will definitely have a tough time against SEn. Regardless, I just hope to have more awesome games.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 20 2011 11:10 GMT
#93
I'm super proud of Thorzain ATM.

"I feel so [expletive] amazing. I can't really describe how I feel right now. Just incredible. My hands still hurt right now. For some reason I clapped my hands with all my strength for one minute after I won the deciding game."

I think everyone who has had a hard fought game on ladder or beaten a tough opponent can relate to that. Doing it in a tournament has to be just incredible.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Groovyschlumpf
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany75 Posts
March 20 2011 11:16 GMT
#94
Boxer, the Gentleman Emperor!

Nice write-ups and interviews so fast ... TL you rule!
Thorzain the first upset ... let more upsets happen

Thanks to TeamLiquid
All in all you kept continuing to do an amazing job and carried my excitement from tsl 2 over to tsl 3 ... thanks! you can be very proud of it
"Well, the (football)game lasts 90 Minutes" - Otto Rehagel (his team lost in overtime)
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
March 20 2011 11:16 GMT
#95
Sen fighting!
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
March 20 2011 11:18 GMT
#96
BoxeR hardly can get even more fans i think, but he tries anyway Thats why we love him.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
TalkSick
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria223 Posts
March 20 2011 11:18 GMT
#97
Beautiful write-up, TL! You guys ROCK!
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
March 20 2011 11:21 GMT
#98
I think it was mostly the coverage of TSL 1 and 2 that made them my favorite tournaments. TSL 3 is really raising the bar. I'm really blown away.
Reason obeys itself....and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
March 20 2011 11:39 GMT
#99
Yeah gogogo ThorZaIN !

Nice Interviews like the rest of the TSL this is totally awesome! Go Team Liquid !
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
March 20 2011 11:43 GMT
#100
So i finished my exams...i return to TL...and i have to say OMG...what a nice start for TSL!
Thank you so much TL and all people making this possible!
tholyc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany116 Posts
March 20 2011 11:43 GMT
#101
I really love the TSL 3 coverage, keep it coming <3!
pigfat
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia141 Posts
March 20 2011 11:44 GMT
#102
boxer!
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
March 20 2011 11:49 GMT
#103
I was just thinking last night "the only thing lacking from the TSL coverage is post-game interviews and analysis" ...and here we are. Great job guys.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 20 2011 11:52 GMT
#104
Boxer is so humble, the more i read about him the more i respect him! Definatly a role model for esports!


And Thorzain!!!! omg such a baller, big congrats to him gonna be exciting games vs tyler!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
March 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#105
Sweden 1-0 Korea. Baller Thorzain, way to represent! :D
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Wrath 2.1
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany880 Posts
March 20 2011 11:55 GMT
#106
On March 20 2011 16:34 Kimaker wrote:
I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely.
I just cannot help but feel that's a disservice to Tyler.
Feeling like everyone is going to underestimate Tyler...sigh*

Oh well, their loss since he's going to be winning the whole thing.

Also, YEAH BOXER!!!


err... what??? tyler was expected to win by 91% ... w/e I guess.
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
March 20 2011 11:56 GMT
#107
I am absolutely loving TSL3 so far. Everything is great and awesome, and I expect nothing else for the rest of the tournament. Great interviews, and I like the fan reactions!
moxley
Profile Joined May 2010
United States65 Posts
March 20 2011 12:01 GMT
#108
When I saw his MM camping outside my base, I stared at them until I thought he was looking back at his base, then I moved in for some force fields.


Could Tyler be any more of a boss?
Dinosaur
Profile Joined April 2008
Denmark112 Posts
March 20 2011 12:05 GMT
#109
A big thankyou to everyone involved in TSL for making it such a good experience so far.

And big thanks to the day 1 players for awesome games. I'm always excited to see what the chilling Dr. Tyler has prepared in his laboatory. ThorZaIN provided kickass play. Sen showed whos the boss at Fnatic - no amount of PFs will change that.

Last but not least BoooooxxxxxxeeeeeeR!!!
Dymeter
Profile Joined December 2010
Macedonia74 Posts
March 20 2011 12:09 GMT
#110
How can you not love Boxer! Beyond the fact he is a legend, he is actually a nice guy one can relate to.
I hope he does well in this tournament and lose only to Jinro xD

anyways
GO BOXER GO!!
Man is a gaming animal. He must always be trying to get the better in something or other.- Charles Lamb
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
March 20 2011 12:12 GMT
#111
The nights biggest winner was clearly Thorzain in my eyes, he didn't just beat Fruitdealer he demolished him. Now obviously there are several factors but it never felt like it was micro or cheese that got him those wins but simply being one or two steps ahead of Fruitdealer at all times.

Overall it was just an amazing first day and it really feels now like anything can happen, thou I guess me and everyone else probably still feels like MC might just roll through everyone just like he did in the GSL.
000.Zulu
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany83 Posts
March 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#112
Great article, very nice read! Thank you!
Omnes rera cum vis cogitationis et finirit si quam unus cogitatio conservatio virium manet.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
March 20 2011 12:24 GMT
#113
On March 20 2011 17:12 Rawr wrote:
Of course Thorzain curses in the interview.


Hahaha, he's swedish, we'll deal with it.

I was SOOOO happy when he won, I haven't been this excited after a match since Jinro took out MC in the GSL.

ThorZain has been flying under the radar forever but he impresses me every time I see him play.
Believing in him vs FD paid me dividends in the bracket contest.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
March 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#114
Really like the interviews^^ I in general don't like anyone who plays P, but Tyler makes a fan of me at every turn. And Sen is such a monster, BoxeR's gonna have a hard time.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
March 20 2011 12:54 GMT
#115
On March 20 2011 21:24 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 17:12 Rawr wrote:
Of course Thorzain curses in the interview.


Hahaha, he's swedish, we'll deal with it.

I was SOOOO happy when he won, I haven't been this excited after a match since Jinro took out MC in the GSL.

ThorZain has been flying under the radar forever but he impresses me every time I see him play.
Believing in him vs FD paid me dividends in the bracket contest.


Couldn't agree more, also I had ThorZain down as a winner in my bracket so the game was even more exciting just because of that. I love this stuff!

Too bad people have to talk about lag really, I've been watching Tyler play on KR server and yeah there's some lag but it's not terrible and you can get used to it by playing some on a foreign server but apparently Koreans choose not to do so and just think they'll roflstomp anyway. It's not like ThorZain had a homefield advantage anyway so I don't know why people bring it up, he just straight up beat FD with better builds and better preperation.

Enough about that, overall great games, can't wait for ThorZain vs Tyler that will be a sick match! Sen vs BoxeR won't be too shabby either.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
March 20 2011 12:54 GMT
#116
After the first day of TSL I have to say it's amazing what production value you put out and just how plain awsome everything is
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
March 20 2011 12:55 GMT
#117
Awesome interviews. I know everyone says that, but I really enjoyed reading these interviews, even from the one player I don't know that well.

I haven't actually watched the games, but I'm incredibly glad Tyler won. The guy's a baller.
Unfortunately my TSL bracket has him falling to MC in the Ro8. XD
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
TheSurgeonTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States131 Posts
March 20 2011 12:56 GMT
#118
BOXER if you're reading any of these comments, don't be so passive! you could've stomped his army so many times in game 2 with the early pressure and game 3 in the midgame. GL!
Bringing Starcraft Main Stream
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
March 20 2011 13:00 GMT
#119
The games were amazing yesterday, the level of play was absolutely phenomenal coming from all players! I can't wait for the next set of matches.

Also, I love BoxeR's interviews a lot in particular. He's definitely the most talkative (or at least comfortable with talking) Korean, and I like that.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
March 20 2011 13:12 GMT
#120
Even though i wouldn't call boxer my favorite player in sc2 (mainly because he's not at tip top shape right now), i do consider him the hero. I want him to be the best, not because he was the best and i like the idea of an infamous player, but because he understands what sc is about and is a stand up guy

GO BOXER! Fighting!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
March 20 2011 13:12 GMT
#121
Underestimate Liquid'Tyler at your peril.
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
March 20 2011 13:22 GMT
#122
Amazing games, commentary, interviews AND write-ups.

What's not to love?
♡
oyoyo
deuone
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark64 Posts
March 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#123
Man, Boxer is always so polite in his interviews, no wonder his so famous beyond his skills, his really likeable. Great guy!
Super fighting robot from the year 20XX
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#124
Tyler vs Thorzain should be sick. Going to be close, I think.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
March 20 2011 13:56 GMT
#125
Sick good coverage! GJ all. Also, <3 boxer !
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
March 20 2011 13:57 GMT
#126
lol at Tyler's probe/zealot idra/strelok =P

Good first day!

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
March 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#127

I'm glad to compete in my first international SC2 tournament. Since it's a foreign tournament, I hope to gain the support and interest of many foreign fans. I'll try to play good games.

Thank you very much.

Lol little does he know he's probably got the biggest foreign fanbase of all :D

Great games overall, reallly looking forward to Boxer vs Sen!

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
March 20 2011 14:12 GMT
#128
Fruitdealer is still my favorite zerg, but Thorzain deserved the win for sure with his super solid play. I think that if FD had chosen to go macro instead of aggressive he would have won, his zerg macro/turtling is the best of anyone I've ever seen while his aggressive decisions are more lackluster.

Great games Thorzain, I'm really looking forward to seeing you vs. Tyler. Sen vs Boxer, holy shit! so happy to have my bracket busted there, although I did vote for the Emperor in my liquibet.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
March 20 2011 14:14 GMT
#129
On March 20 2011 21:01 moxley wrote:
Show nested quote +
When I saw his MM camping outside my base, I stared at them until I thought he was looking back at his base, then I moved in for some force fields.


Could Tyler be any more of a boss?


LOL, I thought the exact same thing. I guess staring into the soul of a horse has its advantages.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 20 2011 14:17 GMT
#130
Great write-up, the fan reaction was quite entertaining. I also like how BoxeR is unaware that he has a HUGE fanbase.

On March 20 2011 06:40 SpiZe wrote:
BOXER!

BOXER!

THE EMPEROR! THE EMPEROR!


I am also featured. It's funny how in the middle of the something you can write and realise afterwards that he doesn't make any sense.
Acadea
Profile Joined February 2011
United States41 Posts
March 20 2011 14:33 GMT
#131
On March 20 2011 03:49 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok.


Sorry, but what was he referring to for the probe and Idra?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 20 2011 14:44 GMT
#132
On March 20 2011 23:33 Acadea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:49 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok.


Sorry, but what was he referring to for the probe and Idra?






+ Show Spoiler +
TSL 2. Nony vs IdrA
Nony ( tyler) uses a probe to harass Idra's scv who were building a command centre. IdrA then accidentally cancelled it. He gg-ed and left.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 15:41:47
March 20 2011 14:48 GMT
#133
A few translated Korean netizen reactions from PlayXP

"BoxeR's GF reports 2 second lag delay- BoxeR's missed EMPS weren't his fault"

"Really nervous about the lag delays"

"BoxeR's opponent is not even a Code-A calibre player"

"As an eSports leading country I somewhat feel ashamed that FD was taken out 2:0"

"WELL... we still have NesTea"

"Wow I just watched the games... connection is so horrible. BoxeR DCing -_- well, it is a "minor league" + Show Spoiler +
this comment frustrated me, seemed to be serious and not sarcastic with his "minor league" comment.


"I was wondering why boxer didn't control his marauders in game 2... I guess that was because cause of the lag..."

"BoxeR... you really need to step it up"

A little back and forth of 2 Knetizens:
+ Show Spoiler +
"If there was a delay of 2 sec, its impossible to play the game. if i were to feel 2 sec delay while playing, its absurd. that means the game reacts after a sec or two following the mouse/keyboard input. I did watch fd's games and i saw some effects of lags in his games too (maybe they were just mistakes). If it was a bit of like sc1 w/e but 2 sec is ridiculous"

"There's a good chance that people are lying about 2 sec delay, and every player has to deal with that lag. So i don't think it is appropriate to talk about who gets benefits/disadvantages from the lag. I personally believe if you are a pro you should be ready and able to deal with such problems."

"If you are a pro, you want to perform at a perfect condition. Even Tiger Woods, i think he was quoted saying he does not play unless he is in perfect shape. it's not a pros responsibility to perform at a top level in any situation. A true pro is whom is able to perform at his/her full potential given ideal conditions. i don't think many of you guys have played on foreign servers, but there is instantaneous lag rather than lag that is continuous throughout the whole game."



Seems to be many Koreans are focusing on the lag problems, specifically in BoxeR's set. I don't know if they are aware of the TL ruling on G1 or why it was made; I'll keep digging.

Here is the coped GOMTV Knetizen forum responses, as translated by Brobear here
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
Let me translate the GOMTV netizen comments for you guys. (Since the google translate button doesn't seem to work too well)
Most of the comments are negative in regards to the overall skill level of players in the foreign scene. Korean netizens are brutal...


-"ThorZaIN, who knocked out Fruitdealer, plays very well..."

-"Was that really Fruitdealer? Why is he so bad???"

-"Can't do much about it... They're playing in 2-second delay after EMP conditions..."

-"Fruitdealer's condition is terrible... I wanted Korean dominance..."

-"The Nightend and Boxer game is SO boring. Seems like a game played in Korea 6 months ago. I'm yawning while watching this after having seen MC's dynamic playing. Battles after maxing armies... This was the reason they reviewed sc2 to be boring before."

-"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious."

-"It's been a while since I've seen a protoss using colossi... It's still far away for the foreign scene to catch up to our level of play."

-"Boxer's skill level... So bad."

-"I feel for boxer's current state in the game... Don't know about the Terran's side of play, but there were a lot of points when boxer could've poked and done some damage, yet he couldn't. T_T boxer fighting."

-"Can't make strong definitive attacks... Can't even hit code A round 16 wit this type of playing level..."

-"Not just being a boxer anti-fan, but if you seriously consider boxer's skill level, doesn't seem like he can even hit code A round of 8's."

-"Are these really matches played by progamers? Did I watch it wrong?"

-"The EMP missed by boxer, the early marauder control in game 2, etc., are apparently all due to the quake in Japan and the lag caused due to it.

And a few comments regarding the bad commentator (I guess for the Korean commentator who dubbed it, since Chill and Day9 are freakin awesome).


I'll update it more tomorrow, if you guys would like!

SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Acadea
Profile Joined February 2011
United States41 Posts
March 20 2011 15:02 GMT
#134
On March 20 2011 23:44 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 23:33 Acadea wrote:
On March 20 2011 03:49 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok.


Sorry, but what was he referring to for the probe and Idra?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpmnIr_787w


+ Show Spoiler +
TSL 2. Nony vs IdrA
Nony ( tyler) uses a probe to harass Idra's scv who were building a command centre. IdrA then accidentally cancelled it. He gg-ed and left.


thanks!
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
March 20 2011 16:41 GMT
#135
I have a lot of comments and thoughts about this opening round and this post includes spoilers.

Things I feel can improve:
I think it should be visible on the front page when vods are available just like with teamspeak. I didn't want to surf around to much looking for them because I was really scared of spoilers=P I eventually asked Lovedrop in a pm if he knew when the vods would be ready and he pointed me to the vod thread. Great response from from him and probably an error on my side not knowing about that thread but overall I think a [VODS] tag on the first page couldn't hurt

Chill was slightly behind in the commentary sometimes, not sure if this also applies to Day but Chill definitely. I'm pretty sure this is a known issue and probably sick hard to fix... It was not that disturbing either but worth to mention imo.

All my other thoughts:
Amazing production. I had to be social last night but I sometimes checked up on the stream to see how many viewers and I was glad to see 35k or so... Sick good commentary and great delivery timing on this recap post as well. Really well made interviews.

Tyler played really impressive I love his style. So educational for me seeing him consistently get his expands later yet not getting behind.

Thorzain winning was really cool, wish he would've have said gl along with his hf in game one though. i was also fairly disappointed in fruitdealers inability to match thorzain.

Really amazing work dealing with that disconnect and I agree with the decision to award boxer the win. Really curious about why the players vetoed the ones they vetoed? Does boxer even know about cloud etc
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 17:01:12
March 20 2011 16:43 GMT
#136
By looking at the comments of korean netizen, I feel like they are a bit arrogant. "Minor league" comments. Blaming the connection problems on TSL (wtf?).

Treating our players like trash, blaming the 2:0 loss all on FruitDealer as if ThorZain did not even play.

Yes BoxeR vs NightEnd wasn't the best thing you have ever seen but I don't think it deserves this + Show Spoiler +
-"The Nightend and Boxer game is SO boring. Seems like a game played in Korea 6 months ago. I'm yawning while watching this after having seen MC's dynamic playing. Battles after maxing armies... This was the reason they reviewed sc2 to be boring before."

-"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious."

-"It's been a while since I've seen a protoss using colossi... It's still far away for the foreign scene to catch up to our level of play."


Really? We are using different stuff means we are terrible?


-"Are these really matches played by progamers? Did I watch it wrong?"


Its maybe just a feeling, but I think im pretty right. Those comments are so arrogant it makes me sad.

Hope Jinro, HuK or HayprO wins GSL soon.
PetRockSteve
Profile Joined February 2011
United States70 Posts
March 20 2011 16:53 GMT
#137
There are post game interviews too?! EXCELLENT. This is making this tournament even better. Thanks!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 20 2011 16:56 GMT
#138
let them koreans express their hate online, they do it to their own players just as well. offline they have to keep it polite especially in korea, so i'm not surprised they are hating this much online as they're just humans as well :o
Biigfoot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States159 Posts
March 20 2011 16:59 GMT
#139
"I stared at them until I thought he was looking back at his base, then I moved in for some force fields."

LIQUID'TYLER

Y U SO GOOD
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
March 20 2011 17:06 GMT
#140
TSL3 is already a sucess in my book. Really, really god job with this coverage, if you keep it up and the players give us more games like this, TSL3 will be the best tournament so far in SC2 history. Huge cred!
If you can chill.. Chill!
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
March 20 2011 17:07 GMT
#141
I gained a lot of respect for Thorzain after hearing about how he approached this matchup. He played well, yes, but the way he prepared and trained is extremely impressive to me. Even if the games didn't go his way, and FD edged out a win, it's hard to deny that he hasn't become twice the player he was when he qualified. It's good to see this approach in light of the mini-controversy surrounding Korean invites to the NASL. People didn't think he was capable of taking down a korean pro of FD's caliber? No problem he just practiced and improved until he was. I'll be looking for more good things from Thorzain in the future.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 20 2011 17:19 GMT
#142
yea koreans are just extremely harsh against poor play. It is not some sort of foreign bias. Koreans netizens are extremely hateful. When Boxer lost to White-ra in IEF 2009 ( i think? not sure), a lot of people commented extremely how he was a disgrace to the nation and shouldnt be allowed to re-enter Korea. If they treat the father of esports in that way, of course they won't spare nightend/fd.

That said, i hope the lag will improve as whatever it was that was broken by the earthquake got fixed so we can get better conditions in later rounds for the players.
ZergZingZing
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)119 Posts
March 20 2011 17:24 GMT
#143
I think part of the reason fruitdealer lost was due to the lag / delay
Fruitdealer and Boxer both said on korean community sites
that there was constant lag and delay in games and it was almsot unbearable... (1s to 2s delay)
The reason boxer lost 2nd set was because he shot the emp wrong in a very important battle due to lag (boxer said himself)
I guess there's not much one can do to fix this...

sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 20 2011 17:49 GMT
#144
Has there been much reaction to Cool's loss on playxp or other Korean sites?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51399 Posts
March 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#145
On March 21 2011 02:19 dtz wrote:
yea koreans are just extremely harsh against poor play. It is not some sort of foreign bias. Koreans netizens are extremely hateful. When Boxer lost to White-ra in IEF 2009 ( i think? not sure), a lot of people commented extremely how he was a disgrace to the nation and shouldnt be allowed to re-enter Korea. If they treat the father of esports in that way, of course they won't spare nightend/fd.

That said, i hope the lag will improve as whatever it was that was broken by the earthquake got fixed so we can get better conditions in later rounds for the players.


he lost to super in 2004 at wem china (owned by mass goliaths on gaema gowon)
Commentator
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
March 20 2011 17:56 GMT
#146
On March 20 2011 21:01 moxley wrote:
Show nested quote +
When I saw his MM camping outside my base, I stared at them until I thought he was looking back at his base, then I moved in for some force fields.


Could Tyler be any more of a boss?

<3 That's just insane. TSL3 champ baby.

Q: Your next opponent will be the winner of Sen vs Fenix. Who do you prefer to face?

Personally I would prefer to play Fenix over Sen, but what I thought as I played today's games was... Before “Fenix” can play “Sen,” you have to take into account that “Terran” is tough against “Zerg.”


What did Boxer mean by this exactly? He would rather face Fenix, but he didn't think Fenix would beat Sen because of TvZ?
#TeamBuLba
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
March 20 2011 17:57 GMT
#147
On March 21 2011 02:56 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 21:01 moxley wrote:
When I saw his MM camping outside my base, I stared at them until I thought he was looking back at his base, then I moved in for some force fields.


Could Tyler be any more of a boss?

<3 That's just insane. TSL3 champ baby.

Show nested quote +
Q: Your next opponent will be the winner of Sen vs Fenix. Who do you prefer to face?

Personally I would prefer to play Fenix over Sen, but what I thought as I played today's games was... Before “Fenix” can play “Sen,” you have to take into account that “Terran” is tough against “Zerg.”


What did Boxer mean by this exactly? He would rather face Fenix, but he didn't think Fenix would beat Sen because of TvZ?



i;m not sure either, but that's what my initial interpretation of it was too.
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Psylence
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada118 Posts
March 20 2011 18:04 GMT
#148
Always happy to help Tyler out! :D
justin.tv/thepsylence
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 20 2011 18:12 GMT
#149
Thorzain is a very modest humble sounding guy. I like him.
The Notorious Winkles
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 20 2011 18:16 GMT
#150
It still blows my mind that we have a TSL winners interview from boxer hahah.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 20 2011 18:38 GMT
#151
great interviews. TSL is proving to be just what I expected from all the awesome hype. <3 TL
Life is Good.
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
March 20 2011 18:45 GMT
#152
Nice interviews.

So Boxer feels that TvZ is zerg favoured right now? Interesting.
SYNC_qx
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany197 Posts
March 20 2011 18:50 GMT
#153
i really start liking boxer more and more. so well mannered
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2081 Posts
March 20 2011 19:06 GMT
#154
woop woop Boxering fighting ! His so damn amazing, and cares so much about his foreign fans. Keep strong in SC2 Boxer your time will come!!
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
March 20 2011 19:30 GMT
#155
I liked Thorzain's play. I hope he gets far.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 20 2011 20:56 GMT
#156
On March 21 2011 03:16 Kennigit wrote:
It still blows my mind that we have a TSL winners interview from boxer hahah.

Pretty damn amazing, ya. :D

And it was a sweet interview too, once again his charisma shines through. ^__^

Also super happy about Thorzain's win, I can understand if he got quite excited after that win.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
March 20 2011 21:14 GMT
#157
Wow, Boxer is so unbelievably dignified in his interview, he really comes off as a great and mature person
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
March 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#158
Will there be TSL RO 16 interviews (like the 8 RO 32 interview "packages"), or "just" these post game interviews?
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 20 2011 21:55 GMT
#159
On March 20 2011 16:34 Kimaker wrote:
I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely.
I just cannot help but feel that's a disservice to Tyler.
Feeling like everyone is going to underestimate Tyler...sigh*

Oh well, their loss since he's going to be winning the whole thing.

Also, YEAH BOXER!!!



I dont get logic on this since Tyler has beaten him before. But personally I think itd be better to be the underdog.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
March 20 2011 21:58 GMT
#160
I wouldn't be so outraged by the Koreans fans reaction:

(a) It's the internet. If Korean posters looked through some TL threads like "BAN KOREANS FROM NASL?" I think they would have at least as much reason to gripe as you guys have, if not more so-- and people commenting on TL include pros, not random internet trolls.

(b) Korea is the mecca of e-sports.
If Brazil's soccer team was dominated by Kuwait, or the US Olympic basketball team was beaten by China, the outrage would be intense. They take pride in their starcraft proficiency, and as you can see, the criticism is flowing as heavily on Boxer/FruitDealer as it is on NightEnd. I wouldn't take the "minor league" thing too seriously, remember, TSL 2 didn't even allow Koreans for fear of them dominating us, right? Like it or not, Korea is the hub of global e-sports, though yeah "minor league" is a bit harsh, especially considering GSL 1 champion just got owned by a European player that hasn't dominated the tournament scene (though that could be changing soon!)

(c) Lag IS an issue. It may not be an excuse (and in Thorzain v. FruitDealer, I think FD got straight up outplayed every step of the way), but it's a handicap that can't be dismissed for KR players.

(d) Give it time. The biggest clash between international community and Korean progamers so far has been IEM, and ST_Ace and ST_Squirtle, who didn't make it past Ro32 of Code A, were 1 and 3 in the tournament, crushing through some of the strongest foreigner competition in the world. TSL 3 is a different story, and if foreigners continue to show up like Thorzain did, the narrative will change.
Clipped
Profile Joined August 2010
France122 Posts
March 20 2011 22:11 GMT
#161
I did find out just like an hour before the game that it's really vulnerable against a certain strategy though, but I didn't have time to change my build and just prayed that FD wouldn't use it against me.
I wondered what ThorZaIN was talking about, now I know hehe .
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 20 2011 22:17 GMT
#162
Go thorazain! Hope you destroy tyler next round!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
March 20 2011 22:21 GMT
#163
@Clipped: Mutas, or nydus?
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 22:49:42
March 20 2011 22:49 GMT
#164
On March 20 2011 16:34 Kimaker wrote:
I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely.
I just cannot help but feel that's a disservice to Tyler.
Feeling like everyone is going to underestimate Tyler...sigh*

Oh well, their loss since he's going to be winning the whole thing.

Also, YEAH BOXER!!!

Tyler was favored 91% to win that match, I think it was just Thorzain who was saying that :p

Should have asked how Thorzain was killing all the burrowed banelings >.>
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Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
March 20 2011 23:13 GMT
#165
On March 20 2011 23:48 Durp wrote:
A few translated Korean netizen reactions from PlayXP

"BoxeR's GF reports 2 second lag delay- BoxeR's missed EMPS weren't his fault"

"Really nervous about the lag delays"

"BoxeR's opponent is not even a Code-A calibre player"

"As an eSports leading country I somewhat feel ashamed that FD was taken out 2:0"

"WELL... we still have NesTea"

"Wow I just watched the games... connection is so horrible. BoxeR DCing -_- well, it is a "minor league" + Show Spoiler +
this comment frustrated me, seemed to be serious and not sarcastic with his "minor league" comment.


"I was wondering why boxer didn't control his marauders in game 2... I guess that was because cause of the lag..."

"BoxeR... you really need to step it up"

A little back and forth of 2 Knetizens:
+ Show Spoiler +
"If there was a delay of 2 sec, its impossible to play the game. if i were to feel 2 sec delay while playing, its absurd. that means the game reacts after a sec or two following the mouse/keyboard input. I did watch fd's games and i saw some effects of lags in his games too (maybe they were just mistakes). If it was a bit of like sc1 w/e but 2 sec is ridiculous"

"There's a good chance that people are lying about 2 sec delay, and every player has to deal with that lag. So i don't think it is appropriate to talk about who gets benefits/disadvantages from the lag. I personally believe if you are a pro you should be ready and able to deal with such problems."

"If you are a pro, you want to perform at a perfect condition. Even Tiger Woods, i think he was quoted saying he does not play unless he is in perfect shape. it's not a pros responsibility to perform at a top level in any situation. A true pro is whom is able to perform at his/her full potential given ideal conditions. i don't think many of you guys have played on foreign servers, but there is instantaneous lag rather than lag that is continuous throughout the whole game."



Seems to be many Koreans are focusing on the lag problems, specifically in BoxeR's set. I don't know if they are aware of the TL ruling on G1 or why it was made; I'll keep digging.

Here is the coped GOMTV Knetizen forum responses, as translated by Brobear here
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
Let me translate the GOMTV netizen comments for you guys. (Since the google translate button doesn't seem to work too well)
Most of the comments are negative in regards to the overall skill level of players in the foreign scene. Korean netizens are brutal...


-"ThorZaIN, who knocked out Fruitdealer, plays very well..."

-"Was that really Fruitdealer? Why is he so bad???"

-"Can't do much about it... They're playing in 2-second delay after EMP conditions..."

-"Fruitdealer's condition is terrible... I wanted Korean dominance..."

-"The Nightend and Boxer game is SO boring. Seems like a game played in Korea 6 months ago. I'm yawning while watching this after having seen MC's dynamic playing. Battles after maxing armies... This was the reason they reviewed sc2 to be boring before."

-"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious."

-"It's been a while since I've seen a protoss using colossi... It's still far away for the foreign scene to catch up to our level of play."

-"Boxer's skill level... So bad."

-"I feel for boxer's current state in the game... Don't know about the Terran's side of play, but there were a lot of points when boxer could've poked and done some damage, yet he couldn't. T_T boxer fighting."

-"Can't make strong definitive attacks... Can't even hit code A round 16 wit this type of playing level..."

-"Not just being a boxer anti-fan, but if you seriously consider boxer's skill level, doesn't seem like he can even hit code A round of 8's."

-"Are these really matches played by progamers? Did I watch it wrong?"

-"The EMP missed by boxer, the early marauder control in game 2, etc., are apparently all due to the quake in Japan and the lag caused due to it.

And a few comments regarding the bad commentator (I guess for the Korean commentator who dubbed it, since Chill and Day9 are freakin awesome).


I'll update it more tomorrow, if you guys would like!



Wow, so apparently Korean netizens act just as rude and disrespectful as Non-Koreans, except with less X is OP/UP comments.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
March 21 2011 00:10 GMT
#166
Planning on translating interviews and posting them on PlayXP,,, good idea? not worth it?
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Staklet
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden44 Posts
March 21 2011 00:16 GMT
#167
I really hope that Thorzain will prevail against Tyler as well, even though I like him as well, but I can't deny a fellow Swede!

And when it comes to Boxer.. I love how humble he is after the lagmatch. Hopefully he will win against Sen, even though I don't think he will.

Lovely games!
No Surprises.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
March 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#168
On March 21 2011 09:10 CanucksJC wrote:
Planning on translating interviews and posting them on PlayXP,,, good idea? not worth it?


Worth it for sure
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
March 21 2011 00:36 GMT
#169
How the heck did fruitdealer lose? O_o and boxer!!! wooot!
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
March 21 2011 00:45 GMT
#170
i am zerg and i love FD but thorzain awesome games man, you deserved that 100%
For the swarm!
Nidoa
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada239 Posts
March 21 2011 03:02 GMT
#171
On March 21 2011 09:10 CanucksJC wrote:
Planning on translating interviews and posting them on PlayXP,,, good idea? not worth it?


I'd say worth it, but its the koreans you should be asking...

Keep on rocking though. you do great work
seffer
Profile Joined December 2010
United States143 Posts
March 21 2011 04:04 GMT
#172
On March 21 2011 07:49 Kazzabiss wrote:
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On March 20 2011 16:34 Kimaker wrote:
I think that they are quite evenly matched but if I had to pick anyone I would expect Strelok to win just barely.
I just cannot help but feel that's a disservice to Tyler.
Feeling like everyone is going to underestimate Tyler...sigh*

Oh well, their loss since he's going to be winning the whole thing.

Also, YEAH BOXER!!!

Tyler was favored 91% to win that match, I think it was just Thorzain who was saying that :p

Should have asked how Thorzain was killing all the burrowed banelings >.>



91% favored by fans who don't know how top tier starcraft works and it's a match between one of the most famous sc2 players on his own site vs a relative unknown.
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
March 21 2011 04:10 GMT
#173
Thorzain made me a fan. Holy crap. Good work to the fellows of TeamLiquid for doing great work in everything TSL!
Icemind
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany570 Posts
March 21 2011 08:45 GMT
#174
Wow ThorZain seems like such a nice guy, and from what could be seen in those matches a really good player as well.
He might have just gotten himself a new fan with this ... even though iam still a bit angry at him for ruining my brackets
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
March 21 2011 14:51 GMT
#175
ohh wow, Koreans actually watching this...\ http://ch.gomtv.com/404/28397/414281 136k views.
this mah s#$%$
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
March 21 2011 17:50 GMT
#176
this tournament is epic as fuck

and hopefully boxer realizes that the whole world loves him already lol

I really wonder how many Korean programers are aware of how populated TL is and how many fans they have
jaedong imba
Anon06
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
March 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#177
boxer got one new fan at least I expected him to have a huge ego, but he was very humble, his respect earned mine unlike moon.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 21 2011 21:56 GMT
#178
Technically if the bracket goes as "predicted", Boxer will have to face off against like the 3 major Zergs of SEA, EU and KR (Sen ->Morrow-> Nestea). Going to be rough.
the farm ends here
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
March 21 2011 22:23 GMT
#179
Omg, just watched the ThorZaIN - FD games, his play was awesome, doing everything at the same time. Nerdgasm.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
March 22 2011 02:34 GMT
#180
Thank you TL for this.
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