EPT[TSL] Day 1 Disconnect Situation - Page 35
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
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diddLY
United States215 Posts
Regardless, this wasn't a decision that was taken lightly, and I commend TL for such an open and honest review on the situation. | ||
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GrimReefer
United States442 Posts
From Nazgul's opening post I've read at least 10 pages of this thread and while some people claim it should be a regame, no one can give a reasonable way for protoss to win this one. The only thing i can think of is if he went zealot, immortal and boxer massed marauders; but that doesn't account for the 4-5 minutes protoss would need to pull something like that off. TL sets the rules at the beginning and they should be followed. The rule is reasonable doubt, and in this situation there can be none. 3 experts have testified there is no way for protoss to win this. There is a dissent but he was vetoed beforehand, his comments however interesting they may be have no weight. A few things about the rules: they don't specify a specific number of vetoes a player is allowed. you may want to put in a limit. keeping it to 1-2 vetoes per player keeps the judge pool small. 10 judges would be a really safe number. I agree there should be some stipulation about players in the tournament not being the judges. If you try to expand that too far and think about all the relationships players have between each other and their teams, it would be too muddy. Those relationships are what the vetoes are for. If you think the pool could be too muddy, up the number of vetoes and up the number of judges to choose from. I disagree with the first rule about DC's. the one where if a player that is behind dc's it's an auto-loss. if the DC is not the player's fault, it shouldn't cost them the game unless like in rule 3 the was already decided beyond all reasonable doubt. (this would only be for on-site tourneys, obviously commuter style would have to keep the rule the way it is) I had something else but i got distracted and lost my train of thought. (and yes i made an account just to make this post :p ) | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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TheMango
United States1967 Posts
On March 20 2011 09:54 Hellspawnl wrote: For me it was obvious that it was staged and that Day[9] and Chill knew about it. I could of course be wrong but that was very clear to me. =D I can assure you that it was not staged. DJWheat was literally dropped into the TeamSpeak channel where the casters were to deliver the message. The casters were not even forewarned about the disconnect for Game 1 in that series. | ||
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vanwilder
United States12 Posts
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
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Weaponx3
Canada232 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
On March 20 2011 09:54 Hellspawnl wrote: For me it was obvious that it was staged and that Day[9] and Chill knew about it. I could of course be wrong but that was very clear to me. =D LOL why do people keep making up wild statements like this every TSL? When Boxer left I couldn't figure out what the fuck happened and when Wheat started talking all I could think about was "Why the fuck is Wheat talking?" | ||
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Veritas.13
United States48 Posts
I know this choice was correct but my intentions in this question are to just help the starcraft community grow and prosper in the west. Veritas 157 | ||
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eyzn
3 Posts
Also i like that you (TL-staff) are trying to explain everything. I think you managed the situation very well *thumbsup*. I don't like how you tell people how they have to respond in this thread though. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
On March 20 2011 13:06 eyzn wrote: Nice job with the test-scenario Liquid`Nazgul! Also i like that you (TL-staff) are trying to explain everything. I think you managed the situation very well *thumbsup*. I don't like how you tell people how they have to respond in this thread though. do you think asking for informed and constructive comments is unreasonable? | ||
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GBleezy
United States11 Posts
PS. I think this reflected most on the situation concerning lag for this kind of international tourney! I think THAT is the most unfair thing for both players and that that is what has come to be the biggest issue resulting from this particular game... | ||
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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
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eyzn
3 Posts
On March 20 2011 13:15 intrigue wrote: do you think asking for informed and constructive comments is unreasonable? talking about openess and telling people what they are allowed to do is kind of mutually exclusive maybe i am overreacting, the red line makes me nervous :p (sorry for the noise) | ||
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 20 2011 12:09 Kazzabiss wrote: lol BoxeR, clutch veto LOL. The Emperor does everything amazing except macro. Even is veto'ing skills are off the chain. | ||
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rust.oxide
United States94 Posts
On March 20 2011 13:28 eyzn wrote: talking about openess and telling people what they are allowed to do is kind of mutually exclusive maybe i am overreacting, the red line makes me nervous :p (sorry for the noise) They are not mutually exclusive. TL staff is merely asking that people disattach their emotions from the situation, think rationally, and discuss this in a composed manner. This should be how people always handle themselves in any awkward situation and when discussing the results of an official calling. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
That simulation put a big smile on my face. It's reminded me of those reenactments of the Kennedy assassin to see on TV; trying to figure out if Lee Harvey Oswald could have gotten a shot off. | ||
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