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Hy guys,
Since the interview made live last night was a lot more complete and a lot more recent than the one TL staff made i spent some time on it and put it into writting. Here it is:
Artosis: Hey Nony!
Liquid`NonY:What's up Artosis?
Artosis: Well, I’m up, you’re up....to RO4. How does that feel?
Liquid`NonY: It feels great. It was a huge hurdle and I've passed it. So I feel really relieved.
Artosis: We gotta go over some of these games. First off i want to go over game no.2 . How did you feel about that win? When he canceled the Command Center?
The probe is Chuck Norris smurfin'. Hi's solely presence makes idrA GG.
Liquid`NonY: Well, at first i did not realize what was going on, pretty much like everyone else, and than I realized he miss clicked and hit Esc on the building rather on the unit. I thought about it for a second and I was like " he could have stayed in and fought for it", but in a build like that you can't afford to make such mistakes. Even if you build a Supply Depot late, when you are fast expanding it might lose you the game, but cancel the Command Center it's far worse so I think he was pretty screwed.
Artosis: Yeah, he definitely was. At any point in time did you thought that your probe killed the Command Center with a critical hit :D ?
Liquid`NonY: Hahaah, no. That did not cross my mind .
Artosis: Now let's look at the Destination game. It really seemed to me that you moved in too quickly with those 2 zealots and I though you are going to go for some brilliant speed-zealots, forcing him to make turrets faking DTs. Do you regret going in so quickly and not thinking of what maybe Artosis though of?
One step away from a brilliant strategy....
Liquid`NonY: Yeah, I actually did not plan to do that strategy. I planned to do one gate proxy, harass and then take it into the late game. But than I thought I could probably finish it right there so I did more proxy gates. I think I could have won, as everybody seen, and could have work but I messed up the execution. Probably due to the fact that I did not practice it at all . Your idea with the speed-zealots would have been much better.
Artosis: Well game one; let's get back now a little. IdrA did a 2 fact-vult drop. This is something no one seen IdrA do. Did it really catch you super duper off guard?
Isn't this a happy moment in the probe world?
Liquid`NonY: My thinking going into the game was “I have the DT drop that I can do, and it's going to land at around 7 min into the game, and looking back to our 1st series, he still did not have an academy building, his ebay was not done either”. So I thought “if he does the same build this DT drop is just going to kill him so I think it's looking pretty good”. Than we got into the game, it was vertical positions, and I'm thinking "you know, he almost beat me on Andromeda anyway, and in vertical positions he could definitely could have beat me, so maybe he will just play it safe”. But when the drop ship came I pretty much realized that he just completely countered my DT drop and there wasn't much I could do at that point.
Artosis: Now this last game that we just saw here. What do you want to say about this? You proxied 3 gates, stopped probes at like, I don’t even know, 25. You just barreled him over there. What do you have to say about that build? Where did you come up with that?
Liquid`NonY: My plan for the series was actually to take Tornado, Destination and Fighting Spirit into mid-late game. I focused a lot on dropping mid game harass and building an advantage for the late game and knowing how to finish a Terran opponent late into the game and I never actually got to do any of that . So going in Fighting Spirit I thought “crazy things have happened in the series so far, but it's 2:2, Fighting Spirit is a pretty standard map, we are going to see the classical game that everyone wanted to see”, but then he does that build and in my practice games, whenever I saw a Terran do that build it just occurred to me "what can they do to proxy gates" and every time I did proxy gates against this FE Terran build, they couldn’t do pretty much anything . They don’t have many options. As you can see the goons starts firing up the bunker, SCVs have to repair, more goons come, and more SCVs have to repair. There is just no money for the Terran and zealots are going to kill SCVs. So when they bring a bunch of SCVs to help with the micro it's not like a just have goons, in which case SCVs would be great, but I had the zealots mixed in too and I don't think I ever lost a game against an A- or higher Terran that did that build. So I was pretty confident it would work, and in fact thinking back to game 2 when he was going to do the same build the same way, I thought it was fortunate that I did not have to do the proxy gates than, cause he would have seen what my counter is to that FE build. So I got to do the counter in the 5th game and it worked and I don't know if would have worked one time or if it would have worked twice, but it was good that I got to save that for the last game when it mattered the most.
Artosis: Indeed it did. Now you didn’t play for about a year. How so good yo, why so good, how so handsome?
Liquid`NonY: Haha, i don't know man. Iccup is an incredible resource and it’s really fortunate that i can just log on and play progamers with little low latency when every I want to. I’ve always been a mechanical player, so my mechanics came back to me pretty naturally and I just had to catch up on few of the latest trends and just start working on some builds that will work and that’s all it takes. Took me about a month
Artosis: Alright, now. Let's talk now about some other matches that we’ve seen. First off, Ret got knocked out. He might have been your hardest opponent. His zvp is kinda legendary. And now we have Sen against Mondragon on the other side of the bracket, with both of them, by the way, known for their Zerg vs Protoss. Which one of those would you less like to see in the finals?
Liquid`NonY: Uhm, I think i have a better chance against Sen actually. I have always respected Mondragon and especially his ZvP of course. I think Mondragon is a very clever player and I feel like Sen is more of a mechanical player and I’ll know what I’m getting into if I’m playing Sen and I just need to play my game and outplay him. With Mondragon I feel like he is the kind of guy that might outsmart me so going into a bo7 I like a straight up game with a guy like Sen rather with a guy like Mondragon who is very clever and has the mechanics too and might and have some tricks up his sleeve.
Artosis: Hmmm, Mondragon the magician. We just saw JF vs White Ra . Did you watch that match in intense, intense anticipation?
Liquid`NonY: Yeah I watched that, it was a fun match.
Artosis: It was a fun match wasn’t it? JF is your next opponent and he has a pretty good pvp i have to say. His reavers are pretty scary. What do you have to say about going against him in the next round?
Liquid`NonY: It's amazing that he made it to the top 4 cause I still think that he is operating on a very limited practice and without being condescending or something, I think we can all see he plays a little sloppy here and there and it's not the amazingly solid JF that we’re used to. As long as he can go on another week without doing a ton of practice I’m feeling pretty good against him. I don’t feel like I am facing 100% in shape JF even thought he managed to take out 2 great players, GosI[Terran] and White-Ra, I still feel pretty good about it.
Artosis: Excellent. Well are you going to win the TSL? That is my last question for you. Are you the Champion already?
Liquid`NonY: I am already the Champion. I am so eager to show my pvz in the finals, and I feel confident about playing JF next week, and unless he is a wizard that will double up his skill in a week, yeah, I’m the TSL2 Champion haha.
Artosis: Wow. You’ve heard it here guys, TSL Champion Nony. Well, thank you very much Nony. Anything to say to your fans? And by the way, Tasteless says “Hi!”.
Liquid`NonY:: Thanks for supporting me, especially Mister Rekrul and Mister Zephyr . I hope now that the other great American player is out of the way we can all stand behind Nony as he becomes TSL2 Champion. Thanks to TeamLiquid, thanks to PokerStrategy.com. They don’t get enough credit, this whole thing would not be happening without them. It’s an amazing event so thank you guys!
Artosis: Alright, thank you for the interview and good luck in the next round!
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Thanks for the transcript dude.
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Nice write-up  .
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Thanks, and thanks for correcting Artos(s)is :D . Dunno why i did that.
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Remembering the poll about spoiling winners etc, shouldn't this be renamed to "interviews winner of idra vs nony"?
About the transcript itself, it seems to be accurate ^_^ It was a good interview anyway
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Oh, could someone change the topic name asap?
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USA29055 Posts
fucking 88)Nony for the win 
get em tyler
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I still can't figure out if this serie was amazing or outstandingly bad.
Hope to see Mondi in the finals, it would really be awesome to see him play zvp.
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With exception of the CC cancel I thought it was amazing. Nonys strategies on Destination, Outsider and Fighting Spirit were outstanding, and Idras strategy on Andromeda as well. The creativity and SC understanding in this series was through the roof. It's a matter of opinion whether you can appreciate these things but I love it.
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On February 15 2010 20:18 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
With exception of the CC cancel I thought it was amazing. Nonys strategies on Destination, Outsider and Fighting Spirit were outstanding, and Idras strategy on Andromeda as well. The creativity and SC understanding in this series was through the roof. It's a matter of opinion whether you can appreciate these things but I love it.
Yes, I really also like short unusual games.
I just wonder if this second game didn't screw the serie a little bit. Inidividually the games were mostly very good and of very very high standart, but the dynamic of the Bo5 leaves me with a funny taste.
Also, lots of hard counters, and that's a bit of a pity, as none of the game lasted to third base to either players. Isn't it the first TvP serie for a very very long time where this actually happens?
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On February 15 2010 20:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 20:18 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
With exception of the CC cancel I thought it was amazing. Nonys strategies on Destination, Outsider and Fighting Spirit were outstanding, and Idras strategy on Andromeda as well. The creativity and SC understanding in this series was through the roof. It's a matter of opinion whether you can appreciate these things but I love it. Yes, I really also like short unusual games. I just wonder if this second game didn't screw the serie a little bit. Inidividually the games were mostly very good and of very very high standart, but the dynamic of the Bo5 leaves me with a funny taste. Also, lots of hard counters, and that's a bit of a pity, as none of the game lasted to third base to either players. Isn't it the first TvP serie for a very very long time where this actually happens?
It's just a sign of really strong play. Neither of them budged an inch and when they could get even the slightest of advantages they just grabbed it and rode it to victory.
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thanks for the nice writing, it was a long job!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
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i thought the games were ace
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Interview IdrA pls. 
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On February 15 2010 21:10 butchji wrote:Interview IdrA pls.
haha I can't wait to hear whatever he has to say
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Nony is so like-able even though he's cocky, how does he do it?
I barely knew he existed before he went to Korea but during his stay and the news about it I became a big fan and was so happy/excited/proud of his courage run. He seems very talented at gaming and strategical thinking..
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Thanks for the transcript!
It takes such a long time to do and a lot of people fail to realize that. So thanks!
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United States12607 Posts
fascinating….the misclick in game 2 prevented nony from having to reveal the build that won him the last game
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On February 15 2010 23:00 JWD wrote:
fascinating….the misclick in game 2 prevented nony from having to reveal the build that won him the last game
Yeah I loved that ;]
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it's so good to see idra actually losing!
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Thanks a lot, my stream cut off for a bit during this interview.
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Awesome stuff, thanks for the transcript. I really want to hear IdrA's take on the whole thing though.
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I don't think we'll be seeing much of Idra for a while.
Nony comes off completely differently than Idra even though he's just as confident. Cooler and more refined I think. "I hope we can all stand behind Nony" lmaoooo :D
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I don't think we'll be seeing much of Idra for a while.
Do you mean on teamliquid or in SC tournaments? Say what you want about his bm but I think this loss will just make him practice harder and prepare even more for the next big tournament. He has had meltdowns before and that is probably what led to him playing so hard that he is the huge favorite for every foreigner tournament.
Nony comes off completely differently than Idra even though he's just as confident. Cooler and more refined I think. "I hope we can all stand behind Nony" lmaoooo :D
I personally think that this is partly true and partly due to perception. If Idra gave this exact interview after a win I have a feeling people would be talking about his lack of respect for his opponents, but I could be wrong.
Also, Congratulations Nony and good luck!
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I think the series would have been waaay better without that one missclick
but whatever, the better prepared player won. nony demonstrating that SC is a mindgame and the more clever player wins not the massgaming, mechanics only player. congratulations!
though it also shows how damn tough it is to play tvp vs a highly aggressive toss
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Fantastic interview, thanks for the transcript -- much appreciated.
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Good interview.
I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.
Oo the drama!
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Oh boy I'm not sure there's anybody who can stop nony now, he's looking so strong right now
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I'm so glad that NonY won, thanks for the interview Artosis, it really helps undestand how and why things when that way.
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On February 16 2010 04:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Good interview.
I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.
Oo the drama!
I think this is kinda faux drama. He believes in the power of confidence and so he's confident. I think "what if you do lose" is an inappropriate pre-match question. I understand it's only there in response to IdrA's extreme confidence but it's still inappropriate. In fact, it's because of his confidence that it's inappropriate. A pre-match interview should hype the match. IdrA's answer is the only one a competitor can give because in a competitor's mind, before the match, losing is literally a thing that can't happen. Any other answer deflates the match. If you had some person without confidence, the interview is kind of a flop anyway and asking that question wouldn't make it any worse.
The fans ought to be excited when they get a taste of the competitors' conviction. But someone has to lose. Being a smartass to the loser isn't cool. There are places for that kind of messing around but I hope the community can agree, out of respect for the competition (that is possible only because an astounding amount of effort from the competitors), that the TSL isn't one of them. Focus on the matches, be happy for the winner and respectful of the loser.
I know I sure as hell couldn't be saying all this if I was the loser so I thought I'd throw it out there while I'm still alive.
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nice, i was actually listening to this live
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On February 16 2010 07:17 Liquid`NonY wrote: + Show Spoiler +On February 16 2010 04:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Good interview.
I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.
Oo the drama! I think this is kinda faux drama. He believes in the power of confidence and so he's confident. I think "what if you do lose" is an inappropriate pre-match question. I understand it's only there in response to IdrA's extreme confidence but it's still inappropriate. In fact, it's because of his confidence that it's inappropriate. A pre-match interview should hype the match. IdrA's answer is the only one a competitor can give because in a competitor's mind, before the match, losing is literally a thing that can't happen. Any other answer deflates the match. If you had some person without confidence, the interview is kind of a flop anyway and asking that question wouldn't make it any worse. The fans ought to be excited when they get a taste of the competitors' conviction. But someone has to lose. Being a smartass to the loser isn't cool. There are places for that kind of messing around but I hope the community can agree, out of respect for the competition (that is possible only because an astounding amount of effort from the competitors), that the TSL isn't one of them. Focus on the matches, be happy for the winner and respectful of the loser. I know I sure as hell couldn't be saying all this if I was the loser so I thought I'd throw it out there while I'm still alive.
perfectly said.
On a side note for the OP. I'd like to suggest a program "Dragon Naturally Speaking 10" (torrent is easily found) for these kind of things. It saves a good amount of time in my opinion and can even be done live by the commentators if they so chose it.
If you are unfamiliar with the program. It is a voice recognition software. It types as quick as you speak and extremely accurate so long as you run through some of the training for your own voice. This program can work in all text applications that I know of so far. I use it for everything on my PC unless I'm SCing (needs mouse)
Anyways, playing back interviews and just talking/repeating what is being said as it plays. Saves an abundance of time and easy on the hands.
Just a suggestion. Enjoy!
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great that idra loses foreigner tournaments. hope he does well in korea tho.
also i caught the interview on the stream am i correct in saying there was a shoutout left out at the end? i think it was nony mentioning a fan?
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I was cheering for NonY, since he is one of my favorite players.
But somehow I feel bad for iDrA. I think that iDrA had to win the TSL since he is a pro gamer.
Anyway, he showed us really nice games. His game play always looks so damn strong.
I am really enjoying watching iDrA play, now. He shows us great decision making, unit positioning, timing, micro, and macro. He is definitely playing like a pro.
NonY did awesome too. His micro attack in the Outsider and Fight Spirit games dropped my jaw. They were just beautiful. =)
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But somehow I feel bad for iDrA. I think that iDrA had to win the TSL since he is a pro gamer.
In a perfect world everyone gets what they deserve, but hey, this is reality.
I am really enjoying watching iDrA play, now. He shows us great decision making, unit positioning, timing, micro, and macro. He is definitely playing like a pro.
Really? Actually i think these atributes should go to Nony for this bo5.
IdrA decision making: Nony proxied something in everygame. In game 5 idrA did not scout properly even though he knew Nony might try smth. Have you ever seen Flash pvt? He sends an SCV to scout in every god damn hole in the map for a proxy but idrA did not scout the freakin' middle.
unit positioning: One scarrab puts 3 tanks on red.
micro: It was good but not enough
macro: we did not get a chance to see it
NonY did awesome too. His micro attack in the Outsider and Fight Spirit games dropped my jaw. They were just beautiful. =)
Actually that game was an almost repeat of Nony vs Carson (even positons) where Carson was rolled over by pure goons were idrA had a reaver extra to handle.
I expected much much more from idrA.
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On February 16 2010 07:17 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 04:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Good interview.
I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.
Oo the drama! I think this is kinda faux drama. He believes in the power of confidence and so he's confident. I think "what if you do lose" is an inappropriate pre-match question. I understand it's only there in response to IdrA's extreme confidence but it's still inappropriate. In fact, it's because of his confidence that it's inappropriate. A pre-match interview should hype the match. IdrA's answer is the only one a competitor can give because in a competitor's mind, before the match, losing is literally a thing that can't happen. Any other answer deflates the match. If you had some person without confidence, the interview is kind of a flop anyway and asking that question wouldn't make it any worse. The fans ought to be excited when they get a taste of the competitors' conviction. But someone has to lose. Being a smartass to the loser isn't cool. There are places for that kind of messing around but I hope the community can agree, out of respect for the competition (that is possible only because an astounding amount of effort from the competitors), that the TSL isn't one of them. Focus on the matches, be happy for the winner and respectful of the loser. I know I sure as hell couldn't be saying all this if I was the loser so I thought I'd throw it out there while I'm still alive.
Confident people don't need to bash other players in public.
I can't really imagine Federer saying about how bad all his opponents are in Winbledon and how he will crush them 3-0 lololol because he's so good.
Idra has wrong state of mind, and this childish cockyness is part of it. And he keeps failing while he has the skill to beat every foreigner with the left hand and no keyboard.
If Idra respected his opponents, he would be respected himself. I haven't seen much bashing on Mondragon when he lost in last TSL being favorite. Idra is the only responsible for the shit he gets.
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Liquid`NonY
As long as he can go on another week without doing a ton of practice I’m feeling pretty good against him. I don’t feel like I am facing 100% in shape JF even thought he managed to take out 2 great players, GosI[Terran] and White-Ra.
Liquid`NonY:
I am already the Champion. I am so eager to show my pvz in the finals, and I feel confident about playing JF next week, and unless he is a wizard that will double up his skill in a week, yeah, I’m the TSL2 Champion haha.
lol now I have high hopes. Double up that skill!
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