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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:10 Cambium wrote:  G5 Inc AviGJ to everyone who qualified! I really want to see how Yan played against Ghosta, I've never seen a single game of his 1v1 You'll be pretty dissapointed lol | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:25 Drazzzt wrote: infernal, in game 2 i wondered, if you didnt +1 on purpose or if you forgot/misclicked. I think this could have cost u the games. Grats for winning anyways  The 1-0 rush is 30 seconds later than the push without 1-0, however it is a lot more powerful, obviously. When I noticed Hayder took his third base so close to me knowing he had my usual timing in mind (+1 build - I use this one in practice 24/7) I decided to edge it out with those extra 30 seconds and it worked perfectly. In fact not making the 1-0 asap won me the game right there because Hayder's timing was just waaay off - he just started to make a sunken when my zealots arrived. Thanks everyone for the support & nice words, I will try my best to keep playing like my usual self and not like the nervous pussy I sometimes transform into. However, I was a lot more at ease today when it comes to the nerves, I guess winning yesterday and the fact that I know Hayder really really well made me stay calmer as usual today. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Race Distribution: 11 Terran 8 Protoss 9 Zerg Country Distribution: 5 (+1?) Germany 4 Poland 3 Canada 2 USA 2 Romania 2 Ukraine 2 Russia 2 Peru 1 (+1?) Sweeden 1 Mexico 1 Taiwan 1 Hungary 1 Netherlands (+1?) Macedonia Clan Distribution 6 (+7?) mouz. 3 iG. 3 mTw. 2 (+3?) ToT) 2 RoX.KIS 2 [Pan] 1 DuskBin. 1 Liquid' 1 NrT. 1 [Media] 1 eX-v1o) (+1?) LRM) 4 Unaffiliated *** Thoughts: - It pains me to pick between   Tarson and   Sziky, because I was rooting for both of them in the ladder. Awesome games is the only answer. - Wow,  iG.Casper. I'd love to see him make 16. -  Shaman too. These two are my favorite new surprises. - As much of a macro beast NrT.FlaF is, it'll be a huge disappointment if  Ret doesn't qualify. - Pulling for   iNfeRnaL too. Awesome first two rounds..! | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
1) Even though Gamtja didnt make it to the R3 he deserves more credit than he gets. He is not that bad as people talk him. Everyone should watch YAN's first game vs Ghosta. Its just ridicolous what he plays. His strategy is so stupid and bad. I fail words to describe it but I never saw a 1v1 replay of this guy but its just beyond me how he could get A- or even A ( !? ) 2) Ghosta is much better than I thought. Very solid player.. 3) Infernal is so good. If he can keep this up and not choke.. His PvZ is so good.. Not saying haypro played as amazing as a zerg can but when watching infernals PvZ u get that '' u see it coming but can do jack shit about it '' feeling.. stunning 4) Shamans old school play reminded me of iloveoov time.. 2 rax pumping around 7 rines expanding and then timing attacks.. pretty neat I wonder what would have happened if incontrol played ''normal'' / modern strategies. He tried to adapt which maybe was a mistake but dunno really.. 5) This flaf guy is for real. His ZvP seems to be pretty damn good. Actually its kinda sad he has to face ret cause I dont know anything bout his ZvT whereas rets is pretty awesome.. ZvZ is just a cruel match up imo.. but I think his ZvP isnt lightyears away from rets tbh.. 6) Mikoels TvP is pretty awesome.. I mean watch his games.. This guys a TvP beast I wonder when kollls games will be played.. | ||
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sassy
240 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:13 iamtt1 wrote: i actually played really sloppy pat's games looked solid.. apart for 1 small macro slip in game 2 he played really well yea i meant to say this is what you do best, not that it was your best set of games still you looked clean and solid even though it might've felt sloppy to you, i liked how your style differs from other p's in this. You can actually pull off those cool bo's mikoel had impressive tvp i agree, he shouldve passed xiaozi too if he scouted better | ||
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Kerl
Germany74 Posts
This guy has no micro, no macro and is only using silly all-inisch builds every Game... But i like him as a Person :D | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:19 copyleft wrote: While what you say is mostly true, the SC "media" went farther than just saying that they are good players, which indeed they are, no one said otherwise. They said that, since they don't know Flaf and almost never heard of him he must be a worse player than G5 and will surely lose. I find it hard to imagine how any person can make such a statement, without knowing what each side is capable off. If that isn't blind patriotism I don't know what is. Look, if someone is a top starcraft player, the most logical thing to do is to particiapte in starcraft tournaments and get some success and money or whatever with it. Another logical thing is if youre a top player and wanna improve, to play games with other top foreigners to practice. If someone inside the scene like idra/ret don't even know who the person is, then it's just not very likely he is that good, or he might just be a newcomer whos gotten good real fast (but will lack experience). That someone is really REALLY good, has been for a while and is still unknown is simply pretty rare. It's just common sense to assume he wont be that good, that doesn't mean that you can't be wrong But jesus, maybe this wasn't clear from my last post since I didn't actually spell it out: IT CANNOT BE PATRIOTISM IF YOU HYPE UP SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (hint: Netherlands is not the same as USA) On January 11 2010 08:23 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote: Flaf an upset ? I was posting from the start that flaf will win both cloud or g5 who ever goes through r1 you just overestimate known nicknames -.-; just stick to hyping korean games cz some of you have no knowledge of the foreign scene whatsoever -.-; 90% of the games i predicted came to happen tho flaf and shaman wont pass imho through r3 castro might tho -.-; Wow you're awesome, can I be your fan? | ||
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iNviSible.yunO
Germany211 Posts
I wonder when kollls games will be played.. they will play monday, the 11th. Kolll <vs>  Naugrim seems really unpredictable to me. both players are beasts. who do you think has the better zvz? | ||
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Try
United States1293 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: Look, if someone is a top starcraft player, the most logical thing to do is to particiapte in starcraft tournaments and get some success and money or whatever with it. Another logical thing is if youre a top player and wanna improve, to play games with other top foreigners to practice. If someone inside the scene like idra/ret don't even know who the person is, then it's just not very likely he is that good, or he might just be a newcomer whos gotten good real fast (but will lack experience). That someone is really REALLY good, has been for a while and is still unknown is simply pretty rare. It's just common sense to assume he wont be that good, that doesn't mean that you can't be wrong But jesus, maybe this wasn't clear from my last post since I didn't actually spell it out: IT CANNOT BE PATRIOTISM IF YOU HYPE UP SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (hint: Netherlands is not the same as USA) Wow you're awesome, can I be your fan? But blind, sweeping flames and sarcasm toward Romanians and ret saying "I just can't see myself losing to a guy named Flaf" is just unnecessary. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:19 MaGic~PhiL wrote: A few observations: I fail words to describe it but I never saw a 1v1 replay of this guy but its just beyond me how he could get A- or even A ( !? ) He plays toss... + Show Spoiler + I KID I KID! Nah but game 2 was pretty standard cheese he used against ghosta | ||
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: Look, if someone is a top starcraft player, the most logical thing to do is to particiapte in starcraft tournaments and get some success and money or whatever with it. Yeah because everyone who is half decent at this game plays it for money and success... You do know most people play games for fun, right? On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: Another logical thing is if youre a top player and wanna improve, to play games with other top foreigners to practice. There are plenty of koreans on iCCup to play with, you don't have to hop the foreigner bandwagon to practice. Not everyone dodges koreans, you know. On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: If someone inside the scene like idra/ret don't even know who the person is, then it's just not very likely he is that good, or he might just be a newcomer whos gotten good real fast (but will lack experience). That someone is really REALLY good, has been for a while and is still unknown is simply pretty rare. It's just common sense to assume he wont be that good, that doesn't mean that you can't be wrong. This kind of thinking is what made idra lose to koll at WCG, G5 lose to flaf, and we've seen plenty other upsets in this TSL, very rare indeed. I actually don't mind it, the more those people act like this the more surprises there will be, also we get to see more pearls of wisdom from idra before he DOESN'T gg out. On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: But jesus, maybe this wasn't clear from my last post since I didn't actually spell it out: IT CANNOT BE PATRIOTISM IF YOU HYPE UP SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (hint: Netherlands is not the same as USA) Remind me again, how did ret get to korea? Oh wait, I remember he got invited thanks to Artosis (and ret's skill of course). I'll let you guess Artosis' nationality, since you seem that good at sarcasm. I'll let you also guess in whose apartment ret is living nowadays also, I'm THAT kind. Ret is not biased towards Americans at all, not the least bit... | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:15 iNfeRnaL wrote: The 1-0 rush is 30 seconds later than the push without 1-0, however it is a lot more powerful, obviously. When I noticed Hayder took his third base so close to me knowing he had my usual timing in mind (+1 build - I use this one in practice 24/7) I decided to edge it out with those extra 30 seconds and it worked perfectly. In fact not making the 1-0 asap won me the game right there because Hayder's timing was just waaay off - he just started to make a sunken when my zealots arrived. Thanks everyone for the support & nice words, I will try my best to keep playing like my usual self and not like the nervous pussy I sometimes transform into. However, I was a lot more at ease today when it comes to the nerves, I guess winning yesterday and the fact that I know Hayder really really well made me stay calmer as usual today. Ok, thx for your answer and for giving this insight. GL for next round | ||
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FlameSworD
United States414 Posts
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On January 11 2010 10:44 copyleft wrote: Yeah because everyone who is half decent at this game plays it for money and success... You do know most people play games for fun, right? There are plenty of koreans on iCCup to play with, you don't have to hop the foreigner bandwagon to practice. Not everyone dodges koreans, you know. This kind of thinking is what made idra lose to koll at WCG, G5 lose to flaf, and we've seen plenty other upsets in this TSL, very rare indeed. I actually don't mind it, the more those people act like this the more surprises there will be, also we get to see more pearls of wisdom from idra before he DOESN'T gg out. Remind me again, how did ret get to korea? Oh wait, I remember he got invited thanks to Artosis (and ret's skill of course). I'll let you guess Artosis' nationality, since you seem that good at sarcasm. I'll let you also guess in whose apartment ret is living nowadays also, I'm THAT kind. Ret is not biased towards Americans at all, not the least bit... I think you misinterpretted what he was responding to. You said "Well that's what you get for overhyping your players, I bet it tastes bitter now. But nice of inc and G5 to be so well mannered about everything, I would have expected at least some sarcasm, if not BM." And you're saying that to an American. Just to remind you, you used "you're" so you're referring to a collective body. This body is "Americans" in general. He responded to your argument based off of what you said, so your response doesn't make much sense. Ret "over hyped" Americans despite not being a member of the collective group you're dismissing as "Americans." Also, singling out two Americans (G5 and inc) and saying you expected a negative reaction from them makes it seem as if you're profiling people based on their nationality, which is not the right way to post around here. ----------------- In any event, I'm really glad to hear your thoughts on the second game, infernal. I was watching and thought "oh noes! he forgot his +1 and seems to be going for a zeal timing attack. this can't go well" That it was intentionally done makes it an even more amazing game. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On December 16 2009 12:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Could but won't. His ZvZ is bad and he won't get past whichever P comes from the round before him. Mark my words. On December 16 2009 12:28 IdrA wrote: random guy from romania wont make it past g5 cloud and ret really laying it on the line there huh geoff On topic: the surprising results in R2 for me are Avi losing 0-2 and Drieven beiung knocked out. Either way looking forward to more great games & drama :-) | ||
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edahl
Norway483 Posts
GG! | ||
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
On January 11 2010 11:09 LucasWoJ wrote: Also, singling out two Americans (G5 and inc) and saying you expected a negative reaction from them makes it seem as if you're profiling people based on their nationality, which is not the right way to post around here. Well it's hard not to think of you guys as bad mannered when I hear Artosis saying "If i don't know you, you don't exist" or something along those lines, not to mention IdrA's comments and remarks left and right. If the two people with the most coverage act like this, and you support them for the most part, it's logical to assume the vast majority acts like this, right? I'd like to end it here, no point starting another x vs Americans debate, but as a reminder it was a user with an US tag that started the whole nationality thing, that's when I felt compelled to reply. + Show Spoiler + On January 11 2010 07:23 horang3 wrote: lol at romanians with 10 posts showing up to trash talk. I am disappoint, though. | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
I was surprised of the lack of cheese, considering theres money on the line. Also I cant belive Yan won that game2 where ghosta even scouted his proxys... omg.. Yan is really much better player then these results show. | ||
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