• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:53
CEST 17:53
KST 00:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting1Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th54Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2
StarCraft 2
General
Changing from 12 to 8 is just asking for StarCraft StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? VPN experiences Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals Every Matchup's Top 5 Winrates (all ASLs & KSLs) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Tiranga Gaming Color Prediction ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2257 users

***[Rule] Final 72 Hours

Forum Index > TSL2 Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36400 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 05:55:00
December 08 2009 05:08 GMT
#1
[image loading]


From 12:00 KST December 10th 2009 until ladder end (Final 72 hours) the following rules will be enforced:

1. A player cannot play games against an opponent who is 3 or more ranks higher or lower than his own rank

2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent in a 24-hour period


Notes:
Rule 1 - Example: If you are B+, you may play B-, B, B+, A-, and A rank players, but you may not play a C+ or A+ player. Any violations will result in point penalties.

Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.




We believe 48 hours is adequate notice for all ladder participants, but if you are in contact with any players (or teams) that aim to qualify, please inform them of this new rule.

Thanks.





Also added to Announcements:

Tie Ladder Score:
If two players are tied for a tier qualification spot (Ladder Ranks #1, #12, #24, and #48), the two tied players will play a Bo3 and the winner gets the higher rank.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Niggurath
Profile Joined December 2008
Chile103 Posts
December 08 2009 05:11 GMT
#2
Nice!!
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
December 08 2009 05:11 GMT
#3
Poor Kwark.

This is definitely going to mill some people out though. If not out of the top 48, at least out of the top 12 or 24
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 08 2009 05:12 GMT
#4
Isn't B- two ranks lower than B+... So you mean that a player can't play someone more than 2 ranks away from their own?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36400 Posts
December 08 2009 05:13 GMT
#5
On December 08 2009 14:12 meeple wrote:
Isn't B- two ranks lower than B+... So you mean that a player can't play someone more than 2 ranks away from their own?

Correct, 2 ranks is fine, 3 ranks is illegal (changed the wording to make it clearer).
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 05:18:27
December 08 2009 05:15 GMT
#6
On December 08 2009 14:12 meeple wrote:
Isn't B- two ranks lower than B+... So you mean that a player can't play someone more than 2 ranks away from their own?

Same thing stated different ways you are saying >2 is illegal they are saying >=3 is illegal when only integers are involved they mean the same thing.

disclaimer/edit: I have no affiliation with the TSL I just thought that was kind of obvious.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 05:19:12
December 08 2009 05:19 GMT
#7
lol we should label this the kwark rule
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 08 2009 05:24 GMT
#8
Go go go!
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
December 08 2009 05:25 GMT
#9
Well, actually, to be fair, it's not really going to affect Kwark that much. I don't believe Kwark was playing any B- players when he was A-.

More like the Morrow rule <.<
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 08 2009 05:25 GMT
#10
On December 08 2009 14:19 redtooth wrote:
lol we should label this the kwark rule


i second it lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 08 2009 05:31 GMT
#11
On December 08 2009 14:25 Conquest101 wrote:
Well, actually, to be fair, it's not really going to affect Kwark that much. I don't believe Kwark was playing any B- players when he was A-.

More like the Morrow rule <.<
but he was playing the same guys 10+ times.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 08 2009 05:32 GMT
#12
i hope we see some good battles between TSL players in an effort to get +3 wins over someone else during those last 3 days. unfortunately the norm is a lot of stagnation and dodging at the end. but with the way the points at the cutoffs are so close, people could have the whole ladder come down to a few key games at the end :D
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
December 08 2009 05:36 GMT
#13
On December 08 2009 14:25 Conquest101 wrote:
Well, actually, to be fair, it's not really going to affect Kwark that much. I don't believe Kwark was playing any B- players when he was A-.

More like the Morrow rule <.<


Yeah, rule being enforced ONLY during the last 72 hours tells us that they don't want anyone to be able to get those extra points needed for a higher rank "too easy". They have to beat better players.

However, this rule was not needed before because you gain so little points. He gained a total of about 100 points for doing that. Thats less than a game vs. equal opponents. To me he has proved he can beat "good" players too. Since only 100 out of 10500+ points is bashing noobs.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 08 2009 05:40 GMT
#14
No more D bashing for Morrow.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
December 08 2009 05:41 GMT
#15
Morrow and Kwark still have 48 hours to play 4128401280 games against D ranks :D
It felt like gravity.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 08 2009 05:44 GMT
#16
On December 08 2009 14:41 Straylight wrote:
Morrow and Kwark still have 48 hours to play 4128401280 games against D ranks :D


Foreigner Olympic Rank
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#17
Nony, are you ready to play? Haven't heard much from you playing lately, or practicing.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36400 Posts
December 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#18
Also added to announcements:
If two players are tied for a tier qualification spot (Ladder Ranks #1, #12, #24, and #48), the two tied players will play a Bo3 and the winner gets the higher rank.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 08 2009 06:12 GMT
#19
when is 12:00 KST December 10th 2009 in CET
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Future_sc
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States783 Posts
December 08 2009 06:14 GMT
#20
I do not like new ladder rules implemented in the middle of a season. Some people have had that unfair advantage for a couple weeks while others have not used it.
Twitter @Future_sc Twitch.tv/Future_sc
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 773
RotterdaM 655
Rex 116
ProTech100
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1943
Horang2 1326
Jaedong 1247
EffOrt 1128
Soulkey 704
BeSt 376
Mini 351
Light 349
actioN 309
Rush 296
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 269
Zeus 172
Sharp 142
hero 110
Mong 81
Sexy 57
Sea.KH 54
JYJ 49
ToSsGirL 38
Sacsri 34
sorry 31
Barracks 29
Rock 20
soO 17
GoRush 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Terrorterran 6
Dota 2
qojqva1443
Counter-Strike
fl0m1422
Other Games
singsing2957
B2W.Neo879
hiko817
Beastyqt613
DeMusliM180
QueenE98
Liquid`VortiX97
XaKoH 79
Mew2King69
KnowMe59
Trikslyr44
fpsfer 1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV728
ComeBackTV 454
Counter-Strike
PGL232
Other Games
BasetradeTV183
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 101
• Gemini_19 35
• poizon28 22
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• HappyZerGling43
League of Legends
• Nemesis3498
• Jankos2304
• TFBlade971
Other Games
• WagamamaTV277
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
7m
Shino vs Scarlett
Bly vs DnS
Serral vs ByuN
RotterdaM655
Replay Cast
8h 7m
RSL Revival
15h 7m
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
19h 7m
IPSL
1d
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
BSL
1d 3h
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Maestros of the Game
1d 21h
OSC
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Heroes Pulsing #2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.