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June 24 2010 15:18 GMT
#1821
I love reading this thread because it lets me search for housekeeping bans to up my count.

sc4k will be unbanned after our discussion via PM. He agrees to not talk about astrology in the future. For those unaware, sc4k was a previously banned user with a history of being unreceptive to criticism against astrology. He's usually a good poster outside of that.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 15:55:47
June 24 2010 15:21 GMT
#1822
Chill! you're saying that Sc4k is HamerD?! hahaha I miss that guy

and yeah this is so epic.


sc4k was just banned by Chill.

That account was created on 2010-01-30 13:49:12 and had 854 posts.

Reason: Your personality, much like your relationship with your imaginary girlfriend, is growing old and boring. I need something fresh. When you make your next new account can it be a bodybuilder who deals with racial adversity? Or maybe a foreigner who overcame all odds to make it, truly make it, in America.


lol at baal 1, 2, 3 and 4 accounts


Also, first time I see a person get unbanned again. Chill is mercy
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
June 24 2010 15:21 GMT
#1823
On June 24 2010 21:06 Badjas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 17:10 Chupacabra(UCSD) wrote:
I got banned once, in part due to freaking Baal grrrrrrr... What ever happened to that guy?? he got a perm ban I see? Was it by request or something??

*edit ( I can't seem to find him on the Automated list, for some reason you can't choose an ALL option on it to see all its posts then just ctrl+f a name)

A search might help. Although if I look at it myself, Baal's perm ban doesn't show up. That's odd. (He has a perm ban in the ban list, I've seen it myself)

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baal was just banned by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2003-03-27 00:06:48 and had 10486 posts.

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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 24 2010 16:11 GMT
#1824
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.
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Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
June 24 2010 16:25 GMT
#1825
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.



Idra, you could say tabloids understate and artosis is objective if thats your thing, but remember, the truth isnt set in stone. Your aggressive behavior makes it that you are the god of starcraft, with infinite knowledge on account of your home. Mods can make wrong decisions, and threads can have the wrong name. But lets say I lived in korea and was an A iccup player and disagreed with you, which one of us would be right then? Why doesnt the universe implode when you and rekrul disagree? Answer that one, oh mighty saviour.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 24 2010 16:35 GMT
#1826
what? lol
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 16:39:43
June 24 2010 16:38 GMT
#1827
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.
The biggest issue was that the thread was titled "Last SC OSL" or something to that effect, like it was definitive and set in stone. Clearly, as your own post admits, this is only a possibility. That purposely mislead everyone and pretty much was designed to attract viewers to the thread.
On June 25 2010 01:25 Neobick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.



Idra, you could say tabloids understate and artosis is objective if thats your thing, but remember, the truth isnt set in stone. Your aggressive behavior makes it that you are the god of starcraft, with infinite knowledge on account of your home. Mods can make wrong decisions, and threads can have the wrong name. But lets say I lived in korea and was an A iccup player and disagreed with you, which one of us would be right then? Why doesnt the universe implode when you and rekrul disagree? Answer that one, oh mighty saviour.
Why did you even bother posting this?
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Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
June 24 2010 16:43 GMT
#1828
On June 25 2010 01:38 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.
The biggest issue was that the thread was titled "Last SC OSL" or something to that effect, like it was definitive and set in stone. Clearly, as your own post admits, this is only a possibility. That purposely mislead everyone and pretty much was designed to attract viewers to the thread.
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 01:25 Neobick wrote:
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.



Idra, you could say tabloids understate and artosis is objective if thats your thing, but remember, the truth isnt set in stone. Your aggressive behavior makes it that you are the god of starcraft, with infinite knowledge on account of your home. Mods can make wrong decisions, and threads can have the wrong name. But lets say I lived in korea and was an A iccup player and disagreed with you, which one of us would be right then? Why doesnt the universe implode when you and rekrul disagree? Answer that one, oh mighty saviour.
Why did you even bother posting this?


I dont know, it amused me? I needed to let of some steam cause Idra annoy me so much? Many possiblities. Arrogance and black and white reality may piss me off. Maybe I had a bad day and needed some kind of passive-aggressiveness to remove the dark clouds from my mind.

But honestly, its a combination.
Use the force.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 24 2010 16:45 GMT
#1829
On June 25 2010 01:43 Neobick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 01:38 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.
The biggest issue was that the thread was titled "Last SC OSL" or something to that effect, like it was definitive and set in stone. Clearly, as your own post admits, this is only a possibility. That purposely mislead everyone and pretty much was designed to attract viewers to the thread.
On June 25 2010 01:25 Neobick wrote:
On June 25 2010 01:11 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 16:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 24 2010 05:33 beetlelisk wrote:
On June 21 2010 21:51 IdrA wrote:
On June 21 2010 19:32 dethrawr wrote:
Artosis' recent attitude is pretty strange, he has shown this in multiple threads. Look in his camera thread, anyone that was even questioning in some way he pushed back as if they were calling him out for being a thief...

Hope that he gets his attitude back in check, he has been a great contributor to the community but his recent actions online have been really disappointing.

theres a reason hes the only known player who posts much in the sc2 forum, besides the odd post from me or nony. its full of trash idiots who flame names they recognize any opportunity they get. ya artosis wasnt being very nice, the people he was responding to dont deserve to be treated nicely.

the thread about hwannis interview was a clearer example, even a mod was a fucktard to him in that thread.

The thread about hwannis interview? How?
Don't you mean FA calling anything with Hellions or Vikings mech?
I'm not saying FA is a fucktard but this confused me too...

no, ett along with everyone else saying he was distorting the interview to get more hits, when hwanni said exactly what artosis claimed he said.


Alright, so you're REALLY trying to suggest that the original title for that thread wasn't misleading at all? It was one snippet of an interview taken out of context (because even as you yourself point out later in the thread, hwanni was saying 'maybe, maybe not' essentially) designed to spell out the end of professional BW?

Even Artosis's lead in line "Yesterday was, perhaps, the last OSL qualification ever." was something hwanni immediately shook his head at. Last OSL? Definitely not, he says. For SC1? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly not as Artosis was presenting it.

Anyways, even if you want to completely ignore the opinion of nearly everyone in the thread and you honestly don't believe it was misleading, fine. Great, even, you're supporting your friend.

But where do you come off with the "even a mod was a fucktard" when my three posts in that thread were:

On June 12 2010 15:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:47 zoLo wrote:
Interesting news, but I didn't think it would be this quick. Just give SC2 time since it took many years for SC1 to be where it's at. Almost every eSports game took X amount of years for it to be competitive (CS 1.6, WC3, etc).


Yeah, this. If they try to force it on people, it'll just fail.


On June 12 2010 16:08 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 12 2010 15:58 Saracen wrote:
Terrible news T___T


I didn't see any news in this thread.


On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.


What comment warrants the 'fucktard' comment? I can only assume you mean the last one, as it's the one you replied to.


On June 12 2010 17:29 IdrA wrote:
On June 12 2010 16:44 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Corrected the horribly misleading title.

After fully watching the video, Hwanni absolutely disagreed with you about this "potentially being the last OSL" for SC1.

no he didnt, he absolutely disagreed with it being the last starleague, last starleague in general.
he said the current one may very well be the last for sc1.


Which is also correct, maybe "absolutely disagreed" being too strong on my part, but I didn't really get any sense of conviction about it from hwanni, nor did most others in the thread apparently. Certainly not to support the "BW is dying" overtones that were presented in the OP (even if that's not how Dan intended it, you can see clearly from the reactions that's how most people took it).

Unless myself (and nearly everyone else in that thread who watched the video) just completely misunderstood hwanni, I think we all got a different impression from him than what was suggested with the title and OP.

he shook his head because he interpreted as the end of the starleague franchise when artosis obviously meant it as the end of sc1 starleagues. obviously osl can continue with sc2, but it'll be very different and the focus of the video was the end of sc1, no more sc1 osls would be a very big part of that. and hwanni clearly does agree that it might be the last sc1 osl and that it would most likely switch in the future.
both the "hur hur theres no news here" comment and changing the title are pretty fuckin gay when hwanni said exactly what artosis implied, and it was indeed news given that the community was getting opinions from a real insider when everything else floating around at the time was meaningless public announcements or second hand information.



Idra, you could say tabloids understate and artosis is objective if thats your thing, but remember, the truth isnt set in stone. Your aggressive behavior makes it that you are the god of starcraft, with infinite knowledge on account of your home. Mods can make wrong decisions, and threads can have the wrong name. But lets say I lived in korea and was an A iccup player and disagreed with you, which one of us would be right then? Why doesnt the universe implode when you and rekrul disagree? Answer that one, oh mighty saviour.
Why did you even bother posting this?


I dont know, it amused me? I needed to let of some steam cause Idra annoy me so much? Many possiblities. Arrogance and black and white reality may piss me off. Maybe I had a bad day and needed some kind of passive-aggressiveness to remove the dark clouds from my mind.

But honestly, its a combination.


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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 24 2010 16:50 GMT
#1830
passive aggressive.. I will write this off as a "english is not my first language" issue.

flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 24 2010 16:56 GMT
#1831
Hey hey English was not my first language!
Also riptide, I love your bans.
BUT GET TO WORK
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 24 2010 17:24 GMT
#1832
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=316#6330

Riptide is my new favorite mod.

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
June 24 2010 17:27 GMT
#1833
On June 24 2010 23:56 pettter wrote:
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sc4k was just banned by Chill.

That account was created on 2010-01-30 13:49:12 and had 854 posts.

Reason: Your personality, much like your relationship with your imaginary girlfriend, is growing old and boring. I need something fresh. When you make your next new account can it be a bodybuilder who deals with racial adversity? Or maybe a foreigner who overcame all odds to make it, truly make it, in America.


And I was just smacking him down for bad science, too... Oh well.



the planets were not aligned this morning, it seems
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RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 19:43:22
June 24 2010 19:37 GMT
#1834
woah huk was banned

HuK was just banned by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-03-24 09:42:12 and had 164 posts.

Reason: Advertising.

On May 20 2010 08:02 Manifesto7 wrote:
TL is not your personal advertising forum. If you wish to advertise about lessons, buy some ad space.

"Ps: im protoss user and all other races are teh gay."

"BEFORE POSTING HERE READ THE PAGES PREVIOUS, IF NO ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED FEEL FREE TO BRING IT UP. IF YOU BRING UP ISSUES ALRDY ADDRESSED IN PREVIOUS PAGES OR ON STREAM YOU MAY BE BANNED (YOU ARE WARNED)"

"O yea last thing give me some money plz through donations becuz if u dont and i dont get enough to pay for internet then I will not be able to stream TT."

Posts like these have little to no place on TL, especially from someone who wants to be a featured streamer.

Last edit: 2010-05-20 08:10:52


they reduced the sentence later, lol.

Bothers me how prejudiced that moderation is towards low post counts, but i suppose thats understandable. One can imagine a situation where high post garbage streamers can ask for donations but the best (top 5?) Protoss player can't
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
June 24 2010 19:48 GMT
#1835
You can imagine a lot of situations that don't actually exist on TL if you want I guess...
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
June 24 2010 19:49 GMT
#1836
On June 25 2010 04:37 derpaderp wrote:

Bothers me how prejudiced that moderation is towards low post counts, but i suppose thats understandable.


do you treat people you've known for 10+ years the same as someone you just met

certain things come with seniority
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RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 20:00:36
June 24 2010 19:58 GMT
#1837
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.

"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
recognize me?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
June 24 2010 20:01 GMT
#1838
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.

He got banned for basically saying "Donate money to me or I won't stream". Since then TL has worked out a policy on donations.

"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for other streamers, i guess.

I can imagine a situation where this still doesn't make sense.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 24 2010 20:02 GMT
#1839
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.

"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.

Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
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RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 20:21:59
June 24 2010 20:19 GMT
#1840
On June 25 2010 05:01 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.

He got banned for basically saying "Donate money to me or I won't stream". Since then TL has worked out a policy on donations.

Show nested quote +
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for other streamers, i guess.

I can imagine a situation where this still doesn't make sense.


there exists a streamer who i find to be without worth, in personality and play, who i know has asked for donations, but i do not know the specifics of it. Because his situation could differ from Huks, and also because said streamer may have been banned as well, i chose to word it this way. I do not know whether there was an actual injustice, but I assumed that there was. I essentially "made up" the situation in my head, because i jumped to conclusions. Using "one can imagine" (a dumb phrase, i admit) was just me conceding that i did not know anything about it.


On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.

"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.

Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.


thats a good point.
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