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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue.

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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
August 04 2011 05:20 GMT
#9621
Haha, found this thread while searching through my really old posts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175522

When does he get off temp ban anyways?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 05:23:26
August 04 2011 05:22 GMT
#9622
On August 04 2011 14:03 Probe1 wrote:
I could search his name, read the thread and explain the context of his very erotic and very graphic description of anal sex. Instead I'll just assume it was slightly out of place.



On Hellbans
      Correct me if I'm wrong but I still view an IP and a Hell ban as one in the same albeit with different methods. While blocking an IP address completely and putting a person in a very real forum purgatory are extremely different the end results conclude identically. I am IP/Hellbanned. I make a new account or keep posting. I realize I cannot make a new account OR I realize no one has ever responded to a thread I've opened or a post I've made.
Therefore I make a new account with a new IP. The process repeats until I am tired and accept the futility and rationalize my victory over whatever.

      So yeah, hellbans are a cute idea but unless someone can look me .. can't really look me in the eye..

      Unless someone can say that a person who is never responded to will not simply make a new account after a period of time on a new IP address, just as an IP ban would- I see no purpose in burdening the staff with a seemingly complex and intensive process.

      Oh sure it would be hilarious. Can't deny that. I just feel like raining cold miserable sobriety today. Blame it on Tasteless clones stealing my ladder points.


Post script: I think it's a curious method and I would like to read a bit of discussion on it!


I think it's better to just straight up ban someone. More transparent, and more honest that way. As well, if the Hellban is only linked to someone's account, then they may just use a second account to see if they're Hellbanned or not. I don't see the benefits of hellbanning someone as compared to just banning them normally.

There's a good discussion we had recently:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231447

I agree with this post from it:
On June 08 2011 20:14 Daigomi wrote:
I really dislike the idea of hellbanning. It seems like a cowardly response to bad behaviour with no reasonable chance for users to redeem themselves. One of the reasons we give out temp-bans is to teach users where the line is. It's a strong reprimand which will hopefully lead to improved posting. Even users who get permanently banned are allowed to make a new account after a reasonable period of time has passed. Users who get banned know that they have made a mistake, and will hopefully stop making that mistake. In contrast, users who get hellbanned are not informed that they have been punished. They get excluded from the community without being given an opportunity to improve their posting. If you get hellbanned and ignored, you won't make a new account to improve your posting, you'll simply lose interest and leave.

Like I say, it seems really cowardly to me. It's moderating without taking responsibility for your moderator's decisions. I don't like it.


you gotta dance
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 04 2011 05:29 GMT
#9623
I remember that thread and that post. Daigomi had a very good point and I won't lie, it influenced my own opinion. I was hoping ABL regulars could chime in a bit on the idea


Okay so the best I could find was This 2 day ban of Idra. I'm pretty sure right after that the tweet of destiny happened (Not to be confused with Destinys tweets) and he received 90 days off. So May June July sometime in the next few weeks he'll be back.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
August 04 2011 05:33 GMT
#9624
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135

Only thing I can think of saying is what ETT said at the end.

God damn...
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#9625
He was banned on May 8th, so what's 90 days from that?
IdrA was just temp banned for 90 days by Liquid`Nazgul.

That account was created on 2004-07-31 20:59:50 and had 11027 posts.

Reason: A few days ago, one of our moderators (Chill) banned Idra for 2 days. After the ban, Idra encouraged his fans, through twitter, to harass and spam him on TL.

We spoke with Idra and he stated that he does not regret his actions and will not change his behavior on our forums. Thus, we've decided to ban him for 90 days. Regardless of whether he felt the 2-day ban was justified or not, we cannot tolerate a forum user publicly encouraging harassment of our moderators.

We understand that this decision may be unpopular among Greg's fans, but we have warned and banned him before about his conduct toward our staff members. We simply cannot accept this sort of abuse and insults directed toward our volunteer staff members who work very hard to make TL what it is.

Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section. Our stream list is an informational resource much like the TLPD, Calendar, or Liquipedia. We believe for these resources to function properly, they must be comprehensive and complete and thus we do not remove banned pro players from them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220441

If my calendar skills are correct, he's due for release on the 5th, which is tomorrow, TL time. =O
you gotta dance
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 04 2011 05:46 GMT
#9626
Successful troll, or a moderator magnet:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
August 04 2011 05:50 GMT
#9627
Username
IdrA (ID# 9395) View Profile | Send PM | Warn
Status Banned (expires 2011-8-6 06:37:07)
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50640 Posts
August 04 2011 06:04 GMT
#9628
On August 04 2011 14:50 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Username
IdrA (ID# 9395) View Profile | Send PM | Warn
Status Banned (expires 2011-8-6 06:37:07)


lol,just in time for the grand finals.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
August 04 2011 06:40 GMT
#9629
On August 04 2011 14:46 epikAnglory wrote:
Successful troll, or a moderator magnet:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135


Oh man I love the red on that topic. That explains a few of the bans on the list.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15362 Posts
August 04 2011 07:36 GMT
#9630
On August 04 2011 10:35 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 09:31 blubbdavid wrote:
I don't get the one in the spoiler, Did he PM the mod just to says that he returned or what?

Yeah he PM'd all the admins to tell us what a terrible mod p4ndemik is, and bragged about how easy it was to make a new account.

I find it amazing how consistently these clowns show up. Like every month we have that one leet guy who needs to tell us how easy it is to make new accounts, and that he won't stop, and that we will regret this, blah blah wha wah.

Except for good old tdot none of them make it past like 5 re-registrations. They all realize it's futile. People should really learn some internet before they start bragging.

Well, can't wait for the next hacker who launches his rooted MAC address proxies.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
August 04 2011 08:16 GMT
#9631
I gotta wonder, with this discussion about the guy who keeps making new accounts etc...
People are getting perma banned everyday and I really wonder are there THAT many stupid people, or do the stupid people just keep re making accounts and slipping by the mods every now and then. I'm sure it happens? I just wonder how often.
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#9632
From what I've noticed after a few months (varies greatly) PBUs get a second chance to get banned again. Obviously I can't tell how many people reform on their new accounts and become okay posters but you see a fair share of pbu's with 100ish posts.


So Idras ban is almost up. And that's where I stop typing about that..
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:26:37
August 04 2011 15:26 GMT
#9633
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135
Wow.
Edit: NINJA'd
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
August 04 2011 15:52 GMT
#9634
On August 05 2011 00:26 TehTemplar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135
Wow.
Edit: NINJA'd


In my mind, I'm picturing ETT walking into a room, seeing all the dumb shit, shooting everyone, and then standing there in the middle of the bodies and saying "God damn". Also, he looks like Sameul L. Jackson for some reason. Thought I would share. It is definitely helping me enjoy this a whole lot more.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 04 2011 16:09 GMT
#9635
On August 05 2011 00:52 Calm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:26 TehTemplar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135
Wow.
Edit: NINJA'd


In my mind, I'm picturing ETT walking into a room, seeing all the dumb shit, shooting everyone, and then standing there in the middle of the bodies and saying "God damn". Also, he looks like Sameul L. Jackson for some reason. Thought I would share. It is definitely helping me enjoy this a whole lot more.

Hahaha that's a great image. A little graphic but befitting the thread covered in red.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:17:06
August 04 2011 16:15 GMT
#9636
Sometimes its so hard to not reply to someone in a way I know will get me in trouble. Now they might believe they outargued me since I'm not going to reply to their foolishness.

Gah.

My fault for engaging in the first place I guess. Time to practice my aloofness!
Love is more fun than hate.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 04 2011 16:31 GMT
#9637
On August 04 2011 17:16 sh4w wrote:
I gotta wonder, with this discussion about the guy who keeps making new accounts etc...
People are getting perma banned everyday and I really wonder are there THAT many stupid people, or do the stupid people just keep re making accounts and slipping by the mods every now and then. I'm sure it happens? I just wonder how often.

The best part is that even if they change their IP and slip past every technical barrier in their way, shitty posting still makes them stand out like Santa in July. And for us reading the ABL, Christmas done come early. :D
Sup.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:59:21
August 04 2011 16:58 GMT
#9638
On August 05 2011 00:26 TehTemplar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251135
Wow.
Edit: NINJA'd

nvm, took me a while to get what Ninja'd meant
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 04 2011 17:10 GMT
#9639
Ninja'd is a suboptimal phrase >: [
brood war for life, brood war forever
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 04 2011 17:12 GMT
#9640
On August 05 2011 01:15 Seditary wrote:
Sometimes its so hard to not reply to someone in a way I know will get me in trouble. Now they might believe they outargued me since I'm not going to reply to their foolishness.

Gah.

My fault for engaging in the first place I guess. Time to practice my aloofness!


It's really easy, you just have to respond instead of reacting.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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