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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here. Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue. Keep it civil. NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/ | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On August 17 2016 10:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote: If you ban opisska can you sanction an alt so that opisska can make a thread in Website Feedback arguing for his own unbanning? The guy gets me!  | ||
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fluidrone
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49505 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:00 opisska wrote: Is the recently banned Wrath the former WrathSCII? It seems so from a casual search. I have met him recently in BW related topic, how does a SC2 fan become a "BW elitist"? How is it that there are no BW fans, only elitists? On August 18 2016 16:32 opisska wrote: Do they even know about his SC2 history? Would they ostracize him if they knew? We know. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
Laertes was just temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby. That account was created on 2010-08-21 03:14:37 and had 816 posts. Reason: Finding a team Meh = racist?!? What the fuck. Get off TL if you're going to try to post that garbage. I agree with the ban, but I thought there was a policy where a mod shouldn't ban in a discussion the same mod is involved in. Instead leave it to someone else to make the call. I think I remember some mod said that, but maybe that was only a personal guideline that mod had, not a TL-wide policy? It sends a more powerful message to the bannee with other people coming in and siding against you (although it is fellow nazi mods that always stick together). Now it's easy for the bannee to discount it as the mod getting mad and banning when he can't handle the truth, lulz, etc. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:45 BLinD-RawR wrote: How is it that there are no BW fans, only elitists? We know. There surely are fine BW fans, no doubt, there are many in the forum. But there are also people aggressive about it and people who are looking to start a BW>SC2 fight at every corner. Maybe I am not giving justice to Wrath, but he seemed to me like one of those. edit: If you want an example (can't quote properly form a closed thread, but it's his post: I say time to close this thread until more info OR (based on my biased perspective) limit the discussion to the BW fans as the remake is for them. SC2 players have their own game. We do not go spamming that Blizzard should do this and this so we can migrate. We simply hate SC2 and keep ourselves away from it. I think the same should happen. The "us an them", "our game their game" mentality together with the open declaration of hate for SC2 is quite enough for me to put him into that box. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:45 BLinD-RawR wrote: How is it that there are no BW fans, only elitists? Take a sc:bw fan that is also following sc2. If he us just a fan of sc:bw, not an elitist, chances are that he will not talk much about sc:bw in the sc2 forums, or in sc2 stream chats, etc. he will talk about sc2 because he is a bit of an sc2 fan as well. You probably won't know that he is a sc:bw fan. If he is a sc:bw elitist however, he will take every chance to mention how much better sc:bw is than sc2. There will be doubt that he is a sc:bw fan, as well as an elitist. By that effect, if you look at people in sc2 context, you will see a lot more bw elitists than fan-not-elitist for that reason. So for sc2 fans, it's seem like almost all bw fans are bw elitists. And I assume there is a similar effect the other way around as well, making the bw-scene think that all sc2 fans are assholes that like to shit on sc:bw (which is partially true, but still). I think. I personally was a sc:bw fan, and if I'm allowed to I'd still count myself as a sc:bw fan although I don't follow the scene much any more. But when I watch sc2 I almost never talk about sc:bw. I find that when people in the sc:bw forum talks about sc2, it's a bit more nuanced discussion. Some are angry AF at how blizzard destroyed the bw scene to pave way for sc2 ("saviOr already ruined it...", "no it was Blizzard!!", etc), while others acknowledge that sc2 is a different game and wish them luck, but not the game for them. Agree? Also, sorry for another long post in ABL. At least it's a double post, which makes it a bit more of a shit-post, right? edit: it's not even a double post, damn you Oppie! | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:50 opisska wrote: There surely are fine BW fans, no doubt, there are many in the forum. But there are also people aggressive about it and people who are looking to start a BW>SC2 fight at every corner. Maybe I am not giving justice to Wrath, but he seemed to me like one of those. edit: If you want an example (can't quote properly form a closed thread, but it's his post: The "us an them", "our game their game" mentality together with the open declaration of hate for SC2 is quite enough for me to put him into that box. Yeah Wrath is most certainly an elitist. There's plenty of regular BW fans, he just happens to not be one of them. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:47 Cascade wrote: I agree with the ban, but I thought there was a policy where a mod shouldn't ban in a discussion the same mod is involved in. Instead leave it to someone else to make the call. I think I remember some mod said that, but maybe that was only a personal guideline that mod had, not a TL-wide policy? It sends a more powerful message to the bannee with other people coming in and siding against you (although it is fellow nazi mods that always stick together). Now it's easy for the bannee to discount it as the mod getting mad and banning when he can't handle the truth, lulz, etc. I agree, it gives the feeling that mod is using his hammer as an argument. #FreeLaertes | ||
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brian
United States9610 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:00 opisska wrote: Is the recently banned Wrath the former WrathSCII? It seems so from a casual search. I have met him recently in BW related topic, how does a SC2 fan become a "BW elitist"? we love all serve all, all you need to do is admit BW is the superior game. join us. | ||
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Elentos
55456 Posts
On August 18 2016 16:00 opisska wrote: Is the recently banned Wrath the former WrathSCII? It seems so from a casual search. I have met him recently in BW related topic, how does a SC2 fan become a "BW elitist"? Legacy of the Void got released and he hated it | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13960 Posts
On August 18 2016 22:07 Ansibled wrote: SC2 vs BW arguments are actually the worst. And completely pointless | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 18 2016 22:07 Ansibled wrote: SC2 vs BW arguments are actually the worst. Unless you're a ban-hungry Liquidian, then you get good stuff for your money. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
both of you have just described starcraft 2 | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 18 2016 19:14 OtherWorld wrote: I agree, it gives the feeling that mod is using his hammer as an argument. #FreeLaertes he got insta-unbanned before cascade even brought it up also thats the wrong F word in ur hashtag | ||
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