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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 16 2016 15:41 GMT
#55701
On August 17 2016 00:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Why are there posts that aren't one liners in abl?


They're trying hard not to get into the shitposter power rank.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 16 2016 15:42 GMT
#55702
sry #shitpost
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
August 16 2016 15:54 GMT
#55703
On August 17 2016 00:42 Teoita wrote:
sry #shitpost

Thanks, I needed that.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 17:29:29
August 16 2016 17:22 GMT
#55704
On August 17 2016 00:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Why are there posts that aren't one liners in abl?

makes it easier to get through all of the posts. skip skip skip
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 16 2016 17:31 GMT
#55705
On August 17 2016 00:29 Teoita wrote:
To be fair, it's really hard to get a point across properly and a lot of "classic" papers actually suffer the opposite: since they are written by geniuses whose minds work faster than ours, they use 5 words instead of 20 and your average physicist reading for the first time is left wondering WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH. Just read anything by Rees or Landau to name a couple. I'm usually one for dry and simple writing, but the paper i'm writing right now is going to take like 10-15 pages to say mostly "i predict the existence of a new class of x-ray emitting quasars", because i can't sum up one year of research into less and it does require quite a bit of context plus i'm fairly sure my referee is going to be someone whose work i'm fucking up, so i need to be persuasive.

Regarding SC2, the main problem is that "good" balance whining is essentially game design whining...nowadays every time someone doesn't like something he declares it "bad game design" and the discussion that comes from that usually almost as stupid and pointless as whining, because even when it's in the form of a well thought post it's extremely likely to be too short and it's almost always biased.

In the case of adepts sure, they are hard to deal with, but you can't look at them in a vacuum and looking at every other external factor like timings, ability to scout them, ability to transition off them, how map dependent their effectiveness is, etc, very easily gets overlooked; not to mention, often times the solution to an imbalance is very deceptive. To name one, it took very small but significative adjustments to Protoss builds to learn to defend the 4Gate consistently during WoL. The strategy itself was nerfed a bit, but mostly it became weaker because players solved something that initially seemed unstoppable.

edit: Also why are we even discussing science in the ABL lol.


I was honestly counting on you to take the bait and then I can't be banned for being offtopic, when a mod is in the same discussion, right? Your topic sounds interesting, do you have a preprint or something?

You're right that some of the "old greats" were pretty dense - I remember the stories of Schwinger waiting years to get his papers published because noone could review them as noone understood them (but they were always right) and my QFT teacher in University knew Landau personally But on the other hand, I did my Masters' thesis on something related to Higgs mechanism and if you want to have a great textbook on that topic, just stick together two dozens of articles from that time ... it was really that great. Now I am doing some UHE strong interactions and almost everything is so clouded by buzzwords and vague reasoning that after 8 years, I have still no idea how the models work (and started to work on completely different things in the meantime ...)

Bad back to the Adpets - the thing is, do all these arguments have to be reiterated all the time? There is a lot of opinions you can express rather freely, because people know where you are coming from and don't need to hear details of how you get there, shouldn't a "balance whine" lose this title once it has been shown once that it has some merits? After all, you won't get banned for claiming that BL/infestor was OP in late WoL (even though for example I have many reservation to this statement) ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
August 16 2016 19:22 GMT
#55706
On August 17 2016 02:31 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:29 Teoita wrote:
To be fair, it's really hard to get a point across properly and a lot of "classic" papers actually suffer the opposite: since they are written by geniuses whose minds work faster than ours, they use 5 words instead of 20 and your average physicist reading for the first time is left wondering WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH. Just read anything by Rees or Landau to name a couple. I'm usually one for dry and simple writing, but the paper i'm writing right now is going to take like 10-15 pages to say mostly "i predict the existence of a new class of x-ray emitting quasars", because i can't sum up one year of research into less and it does require quite a bit of context plus i'm fairly sure my referee is going to be someone whose work i'm fucking up, so i need to be persuasive.

Regarding SC2, the main problem is that "good" balance whining is essentially game design whining...nowadays every time someone doesn't like something he declares it "bad game design" and the discussion that comes from that usually almost as stupid and pointless as whining, because even when it's in the form of a well thought post it's extremely likely to be too short and it's almost always biased.

In the case of adepts sure, they are hard to deal with, but you can't look at them in a vacuum and looking at every other external factor like timings, ability to scout them, ability to transition off them, how map dependent their effectiveness is, etc, very easily gets overlooked; not to mention, often times the solution to an imbalance is very deceptive. To name one, it took very small but significative adjustments to Protoss builds to learn to defend the 4Gate consistently during WoL. The strategy itself was nerfed a bit, but mostly it became weaker because players solved something that initially seemed unstoppable.

edit: Also why are we even discussing science in the ABL lol.


I was honestly counting on you to take the bait and then I can't be banned for being offtopic, when a mod is in the same discussion, right? Your topic sounds interesting, do you have a preprint or something?

You're right that some of the "old greats" were pretty dense - I remember the stories of Schwinger waiting years to get his papers published because noone could review them as noone understood them (but they were always right) and my QFT teacher in University knew Landau personally But on the other hand, I did my Masters' thesis on something related to Higgs mechanism and if you want to have a great textbook on that topic, just stick together two dozens of articles from that time ... it was really that great. Now I am doing some UHE strong interactions and almost everything is so clouded by buzzwords and vague reasoning that after 8 years, I have still no idea how the models work (and started to work on completely different things in the meantime ...)

Bad back to the Adpets - the thing is, do all these arguments have to be reiterated all the time? There is a lot of opinions you can express rather freely, because people know where you are coming from and don't need to hear details of how you get there, shouldn't a "balance whine" lose this title once it has been shown once that it has some merits? After all, you won't get banned for claiming that BL/infestor was OP in late WoL (even though for example I have many reservation to this statement) ...


Most of the time you will just not get banned by the said mod, but you aren't immune to the other one!

And...
Well, let's stop this conversation, we could go far, and at some point it might be judge off topic (looks like we get each others points in this anyway). Unless one of us gets banned, then it'd be back on topic, any volunteer (it's for science)?

ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 16 2016 19:48 GMT
#55707
So WinterViewbot got banned again.

On August 17 2016 00:59 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
There's no proof for anything you're stating, and you're just ignoring the multiple IP bans he's had.

If you don't like me, ban me. At this point I don't care anymore. I'm so terrible at StarCraft it has me in tears every time I finish a session and this community loves their little Bisu circlejerk more than facts.

User was temp banned for this post.


On August 17 2016 01:30 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
This is where I quit everything StarCraft completely. I'm sick of losing and I'm sick of you guys defending and attacking people when you don't even understand their language.


I doubt he's gone for good though. He said something like this back in December too.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 16 2016 20:12 GMT
#55708
On August 17 2016 04:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
So WinterViewbot got banned again.

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:59 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
There's no proof for anything you're stating, and you're just ignoring the multiple IP bans he's had.

If you don't like me, ban me. At this point I don't care anymore. I'm so terrible at StarCraft it has me in tears every time I finish a session and this community loves their little Bisu circlejerk more than facts.

User was temp banned for this post.


Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 01:30 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
This is where I quit everything StarCraft completely. I'm sick of losing and I'm sick of you guys defending and attacking people when you don't even understand their language.


I doubt he's gone for good though. He said something like this back in December too.

People who keep playing StarCraft even though they're terrible and don't improve give me hope in mankind
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 16 2016 21:03 GMT
#55709
Yeah we need more people like WinterViewbot420 keeping on playing SC2.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 16 2016 21:24 GMT
#55710
On August 17 2016 06:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yeah we need more people like WinterViewbot420 keeping on playing SC2.


Despite his name he's a BW player, not an SC2 player.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 16 2016 22:31 GMT
#55711
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
August 16 2016 22:42 GMT
#55712
On August 17 2016 07:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

don't worry, winterbot will make BW HD great again
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
August 17 2016 00:55 GMT
#55713
The urge to ban opisska is getting quite strong at this point
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 17 2016 00:56 GMT
#55714
On August 17 2016 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
The urge to ban opisska is getting quite strong at this point

Can you do it so that the discussion on the past page becomes instantaneously on-topic?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
August 17 2016 01:01 GMT
#55715
On August 17 2016 09:56 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
The urge to ban opisska is getting quite strong at this point

Can you do it so that the discussion on the past page becomes instantaneously on-topic?

Will it be OK to continue talking about science for another page if he does?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 17 2016 01:08 GMT
#55716
On August 17 2016 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
The urge to ban opisska is getting quite strong at this point


He's baiting you. He just wants to get into the shitposter PR.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 01:10:45
August 17 2016 01:10 GMT
#55717
On August 17 2016 10:08 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
The urge to ban opisska is getting quite strong at this point


He's baiting you. He just wants to get into the shitposter PR.

If that list were made 4-5 years ago I'd be right there at the top.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 17 2016 01:40 GMT
#55718
On August 17 2016 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
The urge to ban opisska is getting quite strong at this point


If you ban opisska can you sanction an alt so that opisska can make a thread in Website Feedback arguing for his own unbanning?
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
August 17 2016 02:02 GMT
#55719
I'll sanction it, then backstab him and increase his original ban for creating an alt account and ban circumvention
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 17 2016 02:03 GMT
#55720
How very German of you.
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