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On September 29 2015 06:01 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 05:35 The_Templar wrote:On September 29 2015 04:47 opisska wrote:What I don't really understand is why TL lets the "allowed PBUs" come back with different names - it kinda defeats the idea of getting to know people through the forum, if you don't know that it's the same people. Well, some make it pretty clear who they are, such as our curious friend with no priveligies beyond the use of plain text, but still. And even weirder is the reluctance to say who they were if they get banned. That really seems to be done just to tease the ABL, which is a rather weak justification for a sitewide policy (on the other hand it is one of the most common ones apparently). On September 29 2015 04:42 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 29 2015 04:37 andrewlt wrote: At this point in SC2's lifespan, it's safe to say that new posters are likely to be PBUs. And the ones who post outside the SC2 sections are even more likely to be PBUs posting in the same threads that got them banned in the first place. I'm suspicious of anyone in an LR thread with less than 100 posts. I am suspicious of anyone in a LR thread period. People who are willign to participate in this kind of things are not to be trusted. Do I seem like a suspicious person to you? Could be the sign of personality disorders. Suspicious. You were saying? Nah those are just his columbian slave children
I don't know, why don't we ask One star ninja, Horn or JohnAdams if you do anything odd or suspicious.[/QUOTE] wait I thought he only had 2 alts o_O
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Eskendereya was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.
That account was created on 2015-08-09 03:21:48 and had 52 posts.
Reason: Your contributions continue to be "less than stellar". Please stop insulting people and actually contribute.
On September 29 2015 03:18 Eskendereya wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 03:09 Plansix wrote:On September 29 2015 03:04 Eskendereya wrote:On September 29 2015 00:48 KwarK wrote: I cannot see how that would possibly be revenue neutral. The tax reduction for the low income is basically no different from the current situation if people take advantage of the incentives designed to encourage them to save for retirement or invest in their education. If you earn less than 25k and are paying Federal income taxes you're doing something wrong. The tax reduction for high income however is crazy huge. They're the ones who actually pay most of the tax due to the degree of income inequality in the United States. Offering a shiny new 0% tax rate to people who earn nothing and were already at either 0% or very close to 0% is not a good bargain for giving the super rich a 25% rate, down from 40%. They're the ones who actually pay most of the taxes.
There is no way that plan could not fuck working poor and middle class Americans. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the government, which funds essential services they depend upon, to the rich. It's designed to prey on the ignorance of people who don't get how the system works. Inequality in America is such that the rich pay most of the tax, most people are net tax beneficiaries when you take into account the services they receive. Offering people who already pay 0% or close to 0% a 0% tax rate in exchange for slashing the government services is a shitty deal.
Also abolishing the "death tax" is the antithesis of the American Dream. The American Dream is to live in a society where if you're smart and you work hard you can be a success. The death tax is "if your parents try to leave you more than 5 million dollars that you didn't work for and didn't earn and it's not something like farm land then you need to pay some tax on that". The death tax works to break up inter-generational legacies and even the playing field so your success is more down to your own hard work, rather than just receiving a shitton of money you didn't earn. I can see why Trump, a man with no personal successes who owes everything he has to his father would be opposed to that but at least be honest and admit you're trying to get rid of the death tax to finally finish off the American Dream. Also the death tax only applies on legacies over 5 million already. Seriously? He's appealing for us to give increased access to the American Dream for the subset of the American population who are crippled by inheriting more than 5 million and not getting to keep every cent of it?
That tax plan is a fucking nightmare. I know most people aren't as interested in tax planning and how it all works as I am but trust me, it's literal Hitler. It's huge, huge reductions in taxes for the 1% and soundbites for the 99%. I loled. His tax plan gives much needed relief to hard working tax payers and incentivizes corporations to do business at home and to bring their oversea money back home as well. I see this as a big boost to the economy and unemployment. Too much corporate regulation and tax is what is driving the jobs from this country and Trump is addressing that problem. Kwark is the perfect example of someone who puts a negative spin on everything and anything Trump does while at the same time, has probably accomplished 0 in life. His biggest accomplishment is being TL moderator with 30k posts. The internet is full of "I know better" jokers. The fact that every since one of yours posts degrades down to personal attacks tells us all a lot. Also Trump is cutting taxes for the rich more than for the poor. He is also "closing loop holes" to pay for it, which amounts to saying "I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA!". Everyone loves the idea of tax cuts, but they need to be paid for or services need to be cut. And when politicians don't provide one of those two options, they are promising something that they can't deliver. Taxing the rich more isn't a Republican principle, so I can see why you are disappointed. You'd prefer a socialist tax plan that punishes you the more productive you are. That line of thinking is what is causing corporations and businesses to leave the US. Trump's tax plan is banking on the idea of fixing corporate inversion thought incentives. Less tax and regulation which is perfectly reasonable. As for Kwark, he actually called Trump's tax plan "literal Hitler." So yeah, the guy is a joke and an idiot. User was temp banned for this post.
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And the never ending fight to make us politics not completely awful continues.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On September 29 2015 05:50 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 05:35 The_Templar wrote:On September 29 2015 04:47 opisska wrote:What I don't really understand is why TL lets the "allowed PBUs" come back with different names - it kinda defeats the idea of getting to know people through the forum, if you don't know that it's the same people. Well, some make it pretty clear who they are, such as our curious friend with no priveligies beyond the use of plain text, but still. And even weirder is the reluctance to say who they were if they get banned. That really seems to be done just to tease the ABL, which is a rather weak justification for a sitewide policy (on the other hand it is one of the most common ones apparently). On September 29 2015 04:42 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 29 2015 04:37 andrewlt wrote: At this point in SC2's lifespan, it's safe to say that new posters are likely to be PBUs. And the ones who post outside the SC2 sections are even more likely to be PBUs posting in the same threads that got them banned in the first place. I'm suspicious of anyone in an LR thread with less than 100 posts. I am suspicious of anyone in a LR thread period. People who are willign to participate in this kind of things are not to be trusted. Do I seem like a suspicious person to you? I really don't understand why would you even ask. Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 05:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On September 29 2015 05:35 The_Templar wrote:On September 29 2015 04:47 opisska wrote:What I don't really understand is why TL lets the "allowed PBUs" come back with different names - it kinda defeats the idea of getting to know people through the forum, if you don't know that it's the same people. Well, some make it pretty clear who they are, such as our curious friend with no priveligies beyond the use of plain text, but still. And even weirder is the reluctance to say who they were if they get banned. That really seems to be done just to tease the ABL, which is a rather weak justification for a sitewide policy (on the other hand it is one of the most common ones apparently). On September 29 2015 04:42 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 29 2015 04:37 andrewlt wrote: At this point in SC2's lifespan, it's safe to say that new posters are likely to be PBUs. And the ones who post outside the SC2 sections are even more likely to be PBUs posting in the same threads that got them banned in the first place. I'm suspicious of anyone in an LR thread with less than 100 posts. I am suspicious of anyone in a LR thread period. People who are willign to participate in this kind of things are not to be trusted. Do I seem like a suspicious person to you? I don't know, why don't we ask One star ninja, Horn or JohnAdams if you do anything odd or suspicious. This is way too meta, but I have already lost any hope that someone will ever explain anything to me around here.
haven't been following the conversation but unless I'm mistaken, they are his alts when he got banned a while back XDnvm, answered already lol
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"from zero to hero" or "from banned to banling". templar's mixtape is onfire.
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On September 29 2015 07:16 Jaaaaasper wrote: And the never ending fight to make us politics not completely awful continues. Got me wondering which thread has the highest number of bans, may be hard considering some are years old and have so many more posts to compare 1:1
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On September 29 2015 08:03 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:16 Jaaaaasper wrote: And the never ending fight to make us politics not completely awful continues. Got me wondering which thread has the highest number of bans, may be hard considering some are years old and have so many more posts to compare 1:1 Ukraine thread for highest bans per post ratio?
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
I saw one thread that was two pages long, where the OP made an obvious banworthy post and the replies were a few backseat moderating/snarky "ban?" posts. OP was banned and everyone else got a warn. I think that beats Ukraine.
MH17 also had a bigger ban ratio than Ukraine, I'm sure. It had less tolerance for argument.
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On September 29 2015 08:06 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:03 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 29 2015 07:16 Jaaaaasper wrote: And the never ending fight to make us politics not completely awful continues. Got me wondering which thread has the highest number of bans, may be hard considering some are years old and have so many more posts to compare 1:1 Ukraine thread for highest bans per post ratio?
There's probably quite a few threads with a single post and a single ban. Maybe if you only look at threads with more than one page.
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your Country52797 Posts
On September 29 2015 08:36 LegalLord wrote: I saw one thread that was two pages long, where the OP made an obvious banworthy post and the replies were a few backseat moderating/snarky "ban?" posts. OP was banned and everyone else got a warn. I think that beats Ukraine.
MH17 also had a bigger ban ratio than Ukraine, I'm sure. It had less tolerance for argument. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/127743-pvt-unbalanced-at-high-levels This is better.
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On September 29 2015 08:03 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:16 Jaaaaasper wrote: And the never ending fight to make us politics not completely awful continues. Got me wondering which thread has the highest number of bans, may be hard considering some are years old and have so many more posts to compare 1:1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/122660-tl-beta-roulette
no thread will ever beat this one.
edit: the one above appears to have beat this one.
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On September 29 2015 08:51 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:36 LegalLord wrote: I saw one thread that was two pages long, where the OP made an obvious banworthy post and the replies were a few backseat moderating/snarky "ban?" posts. OP was banned and everyone else got a warn. I think that beats Ukraine.
MH17 also had a bigger ban ratio than Ukraine, I'm sure. It had less tolerance for argument. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/127743-pvt-unbalanced-at-high-levelsThis is better. I think you win (not counting 1 post threads)
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On September 29 2015 08:51 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:36 LegalLord wrote: I saw one thread that was two pages long, where the OP made an obvious banworthy post and the replies were a few backseat moderating/snarky "ban?" posts. OP was banned and everyone else got a warn. I think that beats Ukraine.
MH17 also had a bigger ban ratio than Ukraine, I'm sure. It had less tolerance for argument. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/127743-pvt-unbalanced-at-high-levelsThis is better. That is exactly the one I was thinking of. Glad you found it, 10/10 post-finding skills.
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On September 29 2015 08:58 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 08:51 The_Templar wrote:On September 29 2015 08:36 LegalLord wrote: I saw one thread that was two pages long, where the OP made an obvious banworthy post and the replies were a few backseat moderating/snarky "ban?" posts. OP was banned and everyone else got a warn. I think that beats Ukraine.
MH17 also had a bigger ban ratio than Ukraine, I'm sure. It had less tolerance for argument. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/127743-pvt-unbalanced-at-high-levelsThis is better. I think you win (not counting 1 post threads)
Templar's a banling, so he can beat that thread himself if he really wants to (and doesn't mind losing his hammer for abuse of power).
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Canada8157 Posts
the moderation sure has seemed to ease up since those days
User was warned for this post
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36921 Posts
On September 29 2015 10:00 Jer99 wrote: the moderation sure has seemed to ease up since those days
User was warned for this post lol?
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On September 29 2015 10:00 Jer99 wrote: the moderation sure has seemed to ease up since those days
User was warned for this post QFT
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United States97274 Posts
Mods back in the day would have banned him. Some soft mod just gave him a warning smh
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On September 29 2015 06:35 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Show nested quote +Eskendereya was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.
That account was created on 2015-08-09 03:21:48 and had 52 posts.
Reason: Your contributions continue to be "less than stellar". Please stop insulting people and actually contribute.
Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 03:18 Eskendereya wrote:On September 29 2015 03:09 Plansix wrote:On September 29 2015 03:04 Eskendereya wrote:On September 29 2015 00:48 KwarK wrote: I cannot see how that would possibly be revenue neutral. The tax reduction for the low income is basically no different from the current situation if people take advantage of the incentives designed to encourage them to save for retirement or invest in their education. If you earn less than 25k and are paying Federal income taxes you're doing something wrong. The tax reduction for high income however is crazy huge. They're the ones who actually pay most of the tax due to the degree of income inequality in the United States. Offering a shiny new 0% tax rate to people who earn nothing and were already at either 0% or very close to 0% is not a good bargain for giving the super rich a 25% rate, down from 40%. They're the ones who actually pay most of the taxes.
There is no way that plan could not fuck working poor and middle class Americans. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the government, which funds essential services they depend upon, to the rich. It's designed to prey on the ignorance of people who don't get how the system works. Inequality in America is such that the rich pay most of the tax, most people are net tax beneficiaries when you take into account the services they receive. Offering people who already pay 0% or close to 0% a 0% tax rate in exchange for slashing the government services is a shitty deal.
Also abolishing the "death tax" is the antithesis of the American Dream. The American Dream is to live in a society where if you're smart and you work hard you can be a success. The death tax is "if your parents try to leave you more than 5 million dollars that you didn't work for and didn't earn and it's not something like farm land then you need to pay some tax on that". The death tax works to break up inter-generational legacies and even the playing field so your success is more down to your own hard work, rather than just receiving a shitton of money you didn't earn. I can see why Trump, a man with no personal successes who owes everything he has to his father would be opposed to that but at least be honest and admit you're trying to get rid of the death tax to finally finish off the American Dream. Also the death tax only applies on legacies over 5 million already. Seriously? He's appealing for us to give increased access to the American Dream for the subset of the American population who are crippled by inheriting more than 5 million and not getting to keep every cent of it?
That tax plan is a fucking nightmare. I know most people aren't as interested in tax planning and how it all works as I am but trust me, it's literal Hitler. It's huge, huge reductions in taxes for the 1% and soundbites for the 99%. I loled. His tax plan gives much needed relief to hard working tax payers and incentivizes corporations to do business at home and to bring their oversea money back home as well. I see this as a big boost to the economy and unemployment. Too much corporate regulation and tax is what is driving the jobs from this country and Trump is addressing that problem. Kwark is the perfect example of someone who puts a negative spin on everything and anything Trump does while at the same time, has probably accomplished 0 in life. His biggest accomplishment is being TL moderator with 30k posts. The internet is full of "I know better" jokers. The fact that every since one of yours posts degrades down to personal attacks tells us all a lot. Also Trump is cutting taxes for the rich more than for the poor. He is also "closing loop holes" to pay for it, which amounts to saying "I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA!". Everyone loves the idea of tax cuts, but they need to be paid for or services need to be cut. And when politicians don't provide one of those two options, they are promising something that they can't deliver. Taxing the rich more isn't a Republican principle, so I can see why you are disappointed. You'd prefer a socialist tax plan that punishes you the more productive you are. That line of thinking is what is causing corporations and businesses to leave the US. Trump's tax plan is banking on the idea of fixing corporate inversion thought incentives. Less tax and regulation which is perfectly reasonable. As for Kwark, he actually called Trump's tax plan "literal Hitler." So yeah, the guy is a joke and an idiot. User was temp banned for this post. Eskendereya is one of my favorite posters because its always a little bundles of wonder. If its not some Truth bullshit about jet fuel and steel beams, its exposing the greatness of trump who is going to take back America for white people. Every post is a little gift that we should all be thankful for. They are little windows into the self inflicted reality distortion field.
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On September 29 2015 10:00 Jer99 wrote: the moderation sure has seemed to ease up since those days
User was warned for this post How To Handle Internal Disagreement : The Chinese Way.
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