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On September 29 2015 00:48 KwarK wrote:
I cannot see how that would possibly be revenue neutral. The tax reduction for the low income is basically no different from the current situation if people take advantage of the incentives designed to encourage them to save for retirement or invest in their education. If you earn less than 25k and are paying Federal income taxes you're doing something wrong. The tax reduction for high income however is crazy huge. They're the ones who actually pay most of the tax due to the degree of income inequality in the United States. Offering a shiny new 0% tax rate to people who earn nothing and were already at either 0% or very close to 0% is not a good bargain for giving the super rich a 25% rate, down from 40%. They're the ones who actually pay most of the taxes.

There is no way that plan could not fuck working poor and middle class Americans. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the government, which funds essential services they depend upon, to the rich. It's designed to prey on the ignorance of people who don't get how the system works. Inequality in America is such that the rich pay most of the tax, most people are net tax beneficiaries when you take into account the services they receive. Offering people who already pay 0% or close to 0% a 0% tax rate in exchange for slashing the government services is a shitty deal.

Also abolishing the "death tax" is the antithesis of the American Dream. The American Dream is to live in a society where if you're smart and you work hard you can be a success. The death tax is "if your parents try to leave you more than 5 million dollars that you didn't work for and didn't earn and it's not something like farm land then you need to pay some tax on that". The death tax works to break up inter-generational legacies and even the playing field so your success is more down to your own hard work, rather than just receiving a shitton of money you didn't earn. I can see why Trump, a man with no personal successes who owes everything he has to his father would be opposed to that but at least be honest and admit you're trying to get rid of the death tax to finally finish off the American Dream. Also the death tax only applies on legacies over 5 million already. Seriously? He's appealing for us to give increased access to the American Dream for the subset of the American population who are crippled by inheriting more than 5 million and not getting to keep every cent of it?


That tax plan is a fucking nightmare. I know most people aren't as interested in tax planning and how it all works as I am but trust me, it's literal Hitler. It's huge, huge reductions in taxes for the 1% and soundbites for the 99%.

On September 29 2015 04:42 ThomasjServo wrote:

I'm suspicious of anyone in an LR thread with less than 100 posts.

On September 29 2015 04:47 opisska wrote:
What I don't really understand is why TL lets the "allowed PBUs" come back with different names - it kinda defeats the idea of getting to know people through the forum, if you don't know that it's the same people. Well, some make it pretty clear who they are, such as our curious friend with no priveligies beyond the use of plain text, but still. And even weirder is the reluctance to say who they were if they get banned. That really seems to be done just to tease the ABL, which is a rather weak justification for a sitewide policy (on the other hand it is one of the most common ones apparently).



I am suspicious of anyone in a LR thread period. People who are willign to participate in this kind of things are not to be trusted.

On September 29 2015 03:04 Eskendereya wrote:


I loled.

His tax plan gives much needed relief to hard working tax payers and incentivizes corporations to do business at home and to bring their oversea money back home as well. I see this as a big boost to the economy and unemployment. Too much corporate regulation and tax is what is driving the jobs from this country and Trump is addressing that problem. Kwark is the perfect example of someone who puts a negative spin on everything and anything Trump does while at the same time, has probably accomplished 0 in life. His biggest accomplishment is being TL moderator with 30k posts. The internet is full of "I know better" jokers.