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On August 07 2015 12:44 screamingpalm wrote:


I'm sorry, but this is just fucking insanity. The supreme bullshit by the right to say this is a moral issue, and then proceed to demand PP be defunded is completely foolish. Because if it was a moral issue as you claim, you would also realize that shutting down PP would cause more abortions when poor women lose access to healthcare or men can no longer have a vasectomy performed there. The right doesn't care about morality... they care about money. And nothing else... get real- it's the right conflating these issues.

On August 23 2015 20:44 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Nice post!

As MorroW pointed out, Warp Prism in LOTV has to move all the way from the Protoss base before it becomes a real threat.
However, it still acts as an UNLIMITED warp-in tunnel once it's there. This is different from Medivac or Overlord that has to 'reload' units that need to walk across the map first. Not much of an issue for Zerg usually, but for Terran, absolutely.

Anyway back to the prism. Still only 200 minerals (?), and it takes on average way, way more resources to deflect it than 200 minerals. I think it is unjustified to nerf the forward Pylon hard into the ground while leaving the Warp Prism untouched. The warp prism still acts as an unlimited warp-in tunnel and unlike a Medivac or Overlord it will never stop until killed. Its real threat value isn't 200 minerals, it can be as much as 1500-2000 minerals and gas, sometimes 3000+. With a warp-in time of less than two seconds, even stronger than before. For T and Z (and P), this type of guessing game feels gimmicky from a player perspective. At least in Brood War, you knew that a Shuttle could only contain max 2 archons or 2 reavers (eh maybe just 1? i forgot lol T_T), and then it would have to "reload". I'm strongly against the new nydus worm as well compared to, say, a nydus rocket launcher that would resemble Zerg Drop Pods from the campaign (with a cooldown), or the new Overlord drop.

Infinite tunnels are some of the most theoretically powerful and devastating tools in RTS and they should not be thrown around lightly for cheap money imo. If the warp prism all of a sudden becomes deliberately strong for its cheap cost, increasingly mobile and durable, etc., to compensate for other flaws of the race (forward pylons being weak, Protoss mobility being weak), we might have missed the mark again. I would not be surprised to see late-game Protoss turn into "only camp&defend while testing waters with Prisms to open up an opportunity to move out". But that might be what designers and Protoss players want? Dunno

On September 04 2015 02:31 andrewlt wrote:
Beta discussions are like politics. The extremely opinionated people like zerglingwhiner are the ones who drive the discussion by posting way too fucking much.