• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:40
CET 21:40
KST 05:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series19
StarCraft 2
General
BEST AI HACKER EXPERT CRYPTOCURRENCY/BANK RECOVERY GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 517 Distant Threat The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2508 users

The Automated Ban List - Page 1647

Forum Index > TL Community
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1645 1646 1647 1648 1649 3169 Next
This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue.

Keep it civil.

NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 08 2013 20:22 GMT
#32921
Oh my god Kwark might secretly be neversummer and trying to make himself win :O
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
January 08 2013 20:24 GMT
#32922
Haha, thank goodness I voted for neversummer in the first place, those gems certainly seal the deal........for this round!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 08 2013 20:28 GMT
#32923
and yes the bracket was made in mspaint
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 20:32:58
January 08 2013 20:32 GMT
#32924
My prediction:
neversummer > Kliedxl
affinity_12 > HanClan

jdseemoreglass > neversummer (will be close)
Failsafe > HanClan

jdseemoreglass > Failsafe
I'll be surprised to see anything else.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
January 08 2013 20:32 GMT
#32925
I think a special mention should go to our new mod:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373098#2
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
January 08 2013 20:33 GMT
#32926
On January 09 2013 05:32 The_Templar wrote:
affinity_12 > HanClan
Failsafe > HanClan

That would certainly be some trick by HanClan.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
January 08 2013 20:35 GMT
#32927
On January 09 2013 05:32 The_Templar wrote:
My prediction:
neversummer > Kliedxl
affinity_12 > HanClan

jdseemoreglass > neversummer (will be close)
Failsafe > HanClan

jdseemoreglass > Failsafe
I'll be surprised to see anything else.


I dunno failsafe has this I think. JD is riding on a crest of recent memory imo.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
January 08 2013 20:37 GMT
#32928
On January 09 2013 05:02 corumjhaelen wrote:
neversummer vs Kliedxl is so tough. On the one hand, neversummer crusade was insane. On the other hand, that whining post was epicly good, and in a bw thread. Tough it is.

I still have neversummer's thread about Kwark in my subscribe list. It was amazing. There have been more than one thread complaining about Kwark's moderation but that one by neversummer was off-the-charts.

Also, that thread is where I have seen Myles before. He/she did an admirable job; patient, thoughtful, understanding. You have my respect

I thought that neversummer or affinity would be favourite. jd was a good ban, but it wasn't the madness of neversummer, and it didn't get such an awesome post in the ABL as affinity. That ETT ban reason is brilliant.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 08 2013 20:38 GMT
#32929
KwarK so far that conversation isn't looking very good for you in my opinion...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
January 08 2013 20:45 GMT
#32930
The first match up is so hard but i have to go with neversummer. kliedxl's ban was awesome mostly because of ETT's reason whereas neversummer just went above and beyond with his crusade. Like JD's paranoia that the mods were out to get him, neversummer's paranoia was that Kwark was a terrible mod.

The second matchup is easily affinty_12. That kind of obsession is crazy.

Also the mods who banned each user are as follows:
Failsafe was just banned by GMarshal.

Kliedxl was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

affinity_12 was just temp banned for 30 days by EvilTeletubby.

HanClan was just temp banned for 1 week by Waxangel.

neversummer was just banned by ToKoreaWithLove.

jdseemoreglass was just banned by Plexa.


I do not know if affinity_12 or HanClan were permed (I assume they are)
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 20:51:23
January 08 2013 20:46 GMT
#32931
On January 09 2013 05:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
KwarK so far that conversation isn't looking very good for you in my opinion...


He asked where he could complain about me and I told him. He told me I was obliged to argue the toss over whether his clearly homophobic post was banworthy, I told him I was not. He insisted that I prove, to his satisfaction, that he was being homophobic and, seeing that he didn't seem to understand, I told him that I did not accept his case. The unshaking belief that I am answerable to him and must justify my decision to him for it to be acceptable is amazing, following it with "you've fucked with the wrong person" too is hilarious imo. I read his case and disagreed with it, if he wishes to complain about either my judgement or the grounds on which I use that judgement, it's always website feedback.


The beauty of neversummer was his incredible self belief. I don't know what he does in the real world but it seemed incomprehensible to him that first myself and then the staff of team liquid didn't immediately feel they were answerable to his subjective judgements. He just didn't get that someone other than him could arrive to a conclusion and simply not give a shit how legitimate he personally felt that conclusion was. Sure, everyone thinks they're right in any argument, but not everyone will fight the power in the genuine belief that the power needs to win them personally over before it can exist. He was so wonderfully baffled by the entire issue. But more on that if you keep voting for him.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 08 2013 20:50 GMT
#32932
On January 09 2013 05:46 KwarK wrote:
He asked where he could complain about me and I told him. He told me I was obliged to argue the toss over whether his clearly homophobic post was banworthy, I told him I was not. He insisted that I prove, to his satisfaction, that he was being homophobic and, seeing that he didn't seem to understand, I told him that I did not accept his case. The unshaking belief that I am answerable to him and must justify my decision to him for it to be acceptable is amazing, following it with "you've fucked with the wrong person" too is hilarious imo. I read his case and disagreed with it, if he wishes to complain about either my judgement or the grounds on which I use that judgement, it's always website feedback.


I'm just saying, you're already getting quite a bit of flak for this kind of stuff.

I have to wonder how far he goes in this conversation though. Because in the end, he no longer has the ability to justify his statements and behaviour in the website feedback since he's permed.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
January 08 2013 20:54 GMT
#32933
My favorite part about neversummer was his conviction that he was winning the argument in website feedback. He got banned for country bashing a French guy in that thread though, so it was a bit anticlimactic.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 08 2013 20:55 GMT
#32934
This is utterly unfair. We demand to see PMs from the other nominees to the mods immediately to rectify the situation!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43677 Posts
January 08 2013 21:02 GMT
#32935
Assuming I don't get in trouble for releasing anonymised PMs from other people I have more than enough material to bribe a neversummer victory here.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 08 2013 21:03 GMT
#32936
On January 09 2013 05:46 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 05:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
KwarK so far that conversation isn't looking very good for you in my opinion...


He asked where he could complain about me and I told him. He told me I was obliged to argue the toss over whether his clearly homophobic post was banworthy, I told him I was not. He insisted that I prove, to his satisfaction, that he was being homophobic and, seeing that he didn't seem to understand, I told him that I did not accept his case. The unshaking belief that I am answerable to him and must justify my decision to him for it to be acceptable is amazing, following it with "you've fucked with the wrong person" too is hilarious imo. I read his case and disagreed with it, if he wishes to complain about either my judgement or the grounds on which I use that judgement, it's always website feedback.


The beauty of neversummer was his incredible self belief. I don't know what he does in the real world but it seemed incomprehensible to him that first myself and then the staff of team liquid didn't immediately feel they were answerable to his subjective judgements. He just didn't get that someone other than him could arrive to a conclusion and simply not give a shit how legitimate he personally felt that conclusion was. Sure, everyone thinks they're right in any argument, but not everyone will fight the power in the genuine belief that the power needs to win them personally over before it can exist. He was so wonderfully baffled by the entire issue. But more on that if you keep voting for him.

Seems like a politician, but he'll be a contender in the finals imo.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 08 2013 21:04 GMT
#32937
I can imagine. We could call it "the KwarK advantage".
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 08 2013 21:07 GMT
#32938
I'm gonna go with Kliedxl. He got one of my favorite ban reasons (kudos to ETT) for balance whine that looked like it was out of an SC2 thread, but in a BW one.

Even his unmoderated posts are nearly completely incomprehensible. I don't think he stopped to read his own posts.

On May 10 2012 10:17 Kliedxl wrote:
I would like to say tahnk to eg to offer good oppourtiny to foreigner player as they are a foreigner team.I think too much team just fill up their roster with Korean player just to get a little boost.It just too easy to me.


He hates content contribution to the community from Blizzard, something nearly everyone else welcomes, even if they disagree with what blizzard is saying, we can agree the dialog is important right?
On May 07 2012 07:01 Kliedxl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 10:14 Encrypto wrote:
He just posted a new article on Battle.net.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5202424/Talking_Balance_with_David_Kim-4_26_2012#blog

Based on our internal data, tournament results, as well as the feedback we receive from pro-players and the community at large we believe that the balance between the StarCraft II races is in a good place. Still, we’re going to keep a close eye on things to make sure that gameplay remains fun and balanced even as we prepare for the exciting changes that will come with Heart of the Swarm and beyond. In today’s report, we’re going to look at some recent shifts that might merit further investigation, where we are in terms of balance over all, as well as how things look in the pro scene.

We’re currently looking into a couple of potential issues. Zerg has recently shifted from making a very strong showing in tournaments, to having slightly weaker representation only at the highest levels of professional play. We’re also continuing to see a slight advantage for terran in terms of opening flexibility and scouting denial. In response, we’re considering offering zerg better scouting options in the early game.

I think that it’s worth pointing out that these are actually relatively minor concerns in the face of the statistics we’re seeing. Assuming nothing drastic changes in the meta game that would shift the win rates further out of balance, there’s a strong likelihood that it won’t be necessary to make balance changes until Heart of the Swarm arrives. Still, if a significant issue arises that is beyond the reach of metagame changes to resolve, then we will react as quickly as possible to make the adjustments necessary to restore balance.



Adjusted ratings

Here’s the latest global adjusted ratings data:

[image loading]
Please note that the way we do this calculation factors out player skill. These numbers are also constantly in flux. For the purposes of interpreting this chart, a 45-55% win rate suggests that there is no sign of imbalance. Also, because these numbers change from week to week and day to day, it’s not uncommon for a race that shows a 54% win rate this week to show 46% next week. Overall, we have been seeing win rates in the 45-55% range in every matchup and in every region for a while now.

We do have a new method of calculating player skill more precisely. The different races tend to be slightly stronger or weaker at different league levels , and since most players only ever play one race all the time, racial strength was an influence on their hidden rating. For example, if terran is slightly weaker at the gold level, the player would have a lower hidden rating than if he were to play a different race at that level. When using this method of calculation, we are seeing good balance at the highest levels of the ladder - race balance is good enough at those levels to have a negligible influence on player performance.

We’re checking all of these numbers on a frequent basis in order to react quickly if something big happens.



Tournaments

My earlier comments about zerg notwithstanding, overall, we are seeing good win ratios and stats from tournaments.

One interesting thing to note is that there still is a skill gap even at the pro level. This is what we’re seeing:

Protoss has good representation in terms of the number of protoss tournament qualifiers at the general professional level, but has the lowest representation at the very highest professional level.
Zerg has the lowest representation at the general pro level, but has been showing the best standings at the highest tournament levels until very recently.
Terran has good representation over all.
We are concerned that protoss players seem to be having a slower start compared to zerg or terran players. For quite some time after StarCraft II was released, especially at the highest levels of professional play, protoss players were primarily only focusing on 1 base or 2 base warp gate all-ins. It was only after we toned down these builds that protoss players really started exploring their various tech options in the same way that the other two races have been doing for a long time.

Terran representation remains strong even after recent nerfs. We think that the adjustments we’ve made over time have kept pace well with meta game shifts, and that overall terran is in a good place.

Again, we’re closely watching every major tournament, and working with various tournament organizations around the world in order to keep close tabs on both specific games and overall tournament data.



Maps

In our current map pool, we’re seeing that not every map we’ve added to our pool is balanced for every matchup. For example, our data shows a 70% PvT win ratio on Cloud Kingdom, a 62% win ratio in PvZ on Korhal Compound, and a 37% win ratio on Metalopolis for TvZ. It’s worth noting that these represent the heaviest imbalances in the maps on our ladder, but that this also isn’t necessarily a problem.

Our current stance on this is we believe slight imbalances in maps actually make the game more interesting, as long as the imbalances aren’t too great. Various new meta games and strategies develop depending on the map, and it’s interesting to see the game play out in different ways as players exploit their own strengths and weaknesses from map to map. We believe a lot of the fun comes from this as well. On top of that, we have our veto system on the ladder and tournaments have their own player map veto systems that also deal with this issue.

That said, if a map pushes the limit too much and a matchup becomes significantly imbalanced, we will definitely take steps to adjust the map pool accordingly.



Community Feedback

The pro player and caster feedback regarding which races are overpowered or underpowered is very evenly distributed among the three races, which is a very good sign.

The feedback from you all in the player community has been very interesting too. A lot of the feedback we used to see on the forums was often related to perceived imbalances in units or strategies at the pro level. These days, it seems that we’re seeing more conversations that focus on what’s happening at the league level directly - which we think could be related to a more visibly balanced pro scene. That’s good for us because, while we like seeing very solid results at the pro level, we are also always working towards a balanced experience across all skill levels. We will continue to pay close attention to both high level players and discussions within the community in order to continue pursuing this goal.

At this moment, it feels like we’re in a good spot when we look at the current state of the game from various angles. However, we are always on the look-out for new issues that could arise, checking our data, and gathering new feedback on a regular basis, and we’ll make adjustments to the game as needed.
Thank you for your continued support and valuable feedback!


I feel sad for David Kim it noit good for him to speak with himself...


But he tells others to stop posting shit!

If you have no judgement stop posting shit !!


Vote for the underdog, vote for Kliedxl. He's the LR balance whiner, taken to the maximum possible extreme.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
January 08 2013 21:16 GMT
#32939
I'm voting for neversummer. The guy put serious effort into his trolling.
Что?
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 08 2013 21:23 GMT
#32940
I'm gonna go with Kliedxl. He got one of my favorite ban reasons (kudos to ETT) for balance whine that looked like it was out of an SC2 thread, but in a BW one.


This to me is probably my favorite actual ban reason, not response to the ban itself though.
Prev 1 1645 1646 1647 1648 1649 3169 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S22 - Open Qualifier #2
ZZZero.O79
LiquipediaDiscussion
Patches Events
17:00
Modded Open Cup
davetesta66
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 568
ProTech107
Livibee 72
UpATreeSC 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 479
ZZZero.O 79
Dota 2
Gorgc7403
monkeys_forever204
capcasts199
Counter-Strike
fl0m4756
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor482
Liquid`Hasu469
Other Games
gofns44242
tarik_tv22054
FrodaN4850
summit1g4719
Grubby2654
Liquid`RaSZi1448
B2W.Neo757
KnowMe553
ToD176
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream22099
Other Games
gamesdonequick1099
ComeBackTV 267
BasetradeTV103
StarCraft 2
angryscii 49
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 139
• HeavenSC 27
• Reevou 9
• OhrlRock 2
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 28
• Airneanach26
• RayReign 25
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota243
Other Games
• imaqtpie1236
• Shiphtur240
Upcoming Events
GSL
11h 20m
Wardi Open
15h 20m
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 20m
WardiTV Team League
1d 15h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.