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On the subject of SirJolt's banning spree;
Lorch was just temp banned for 2 weeks by SirJolt.
That account was created on 2011-06-27 17:58:17 and had 1271 posts.
Reason: I was just going to warn, but you seem to have a long list of previous warnings and moderations.
I was still considering just warning you (again), but then I reread your post advocating that people should never forget that TT1 is a hacker and that he should be banned from tournaments :/
I sense someone's got sour grapes over Spades.
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I'm doing my part by making as many TL mod sirjolt is a nazi submissions as possible. (It's actually possible for me to make precisely 0 submissions, as I'm terribly busy at the moment drinking coffee and filling in a cross word)
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Wow we need to get this thread shut down, someone contact a mod.
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On June 16 2012 22:52 solidbebe wrote:Wow we need to get this thread shut down, someone contact a mod.
Don't worry, they are all noobs over on that thread. Mostly just 1-line posts and shit...the mods will ban them soon enough. I always wonder though how that "TL.net Bot" has lasted so long on this site...
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Sometimes I wonder if there is maybe an ABLDD thread where mods discuss tactics to try to get themselves quoted in this thread. 
Nomad_ was just banned by salle.
That account was created on 2012-06-16 21:48:17 and had 0 posts.
Reason: Roses are red Violets are blue This is a ban 'cause you're a PBU
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On June 16 2012 23:15 TheAmazombie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 22:52 solidbebe wrote:Wow we need to get this thread shut down, someone contact a mod. Don't worry, they are all noobs over on that thread. Mostly just 1-line posts and shit...the mods will ban them soon enough. I always wonder though how that "TL.net Bot" has lasted so long on this site...
Bot only has 3 posts. The mods are probably just giving it a chance.
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Nazarid was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.
Man, this one confuses me. Orcasgt24 says:
Hope they shoot the guy. Nothing would please me more then for the security company to figure out who it was before the police and track him down and put 4 rounds into his head.
and Nazarid responds:
yer post makes me sick. Do you use that brain you were given? or do you just enjoy spouting off ignorance? 2 people were put in the ground and you want to put another person in it? wow good awesome post man. Life is worth saving even if some one did kill others they should rot in a prison cell for years over just ending their life. I am so glad people with you're ignorance and stupidity are not in charge of the investigation.
and gets banned? I mean, why is it ok for Orcasgt24 to advocate someone's murder and not for someone to respond to that with a properly horrified response?
ETT says:
Ease up. Someone not sharing the same POV as you doesn't warrant this type of response.
but I would say calling for another person's death is more than just "not sharing the same POV." Seriously, wtf.
Edit: This probably belongs in the feedback area, so let's not derail this thread. Sorry.
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Kwark immediately puts the smackdown on another religion thread.
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On June 16 2012 23:54 Lysenko wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Man, this one confuses me. Orcasgt24 says: Hope they shoot the guy. Nothing would please me more then for the security company to figure out who it was before the police and track him down and put 4 rounds into his head. and Nazarid responds: yer post makes me sick. Do you use that brain you were given? or do you just enjoy spouting off ignorance? 2 people were put in the ground and you want to put another person in it? wow good awesome post man. Life is worth saving even if some one did kill others they should rot in a prison cell for years over just ending their life. I am so glad people with you're ignorance and stupidity are not in charge of the investigation. and gets banned? I mean, why is it ok for Orcasgt24 to advocate someone's murder and not for someone to respond to that with a properly horrified response? ETT says: Ease up. Someone not sharing the same POV as you doesn't warrant this type of response. but I would say calling for another person's death is more than just "not sharing the same POV." Seriously, wtf. Edit: This probably belongs in the feedback area, so let's not derail this thread. Sorry .
Don't know if it adds much but I don't agree with this ban either, a warning perhaps, but not a ban.
But I'm not a mod so
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On June 16 2012 23:15 TheAmazombie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 22:52 solidbebe wrote:Wow we need to get this thread shut down, someone contact a mod. Don't worry, they are all noobs over on that thread. Mostly just 1-line posts and shit...the mods will ban them soon enough. I always wonder though how that "TL.net Bot" has lasted so long on this site...
I bet that they do have a thread to discuss such tactics. This is, after all, the red carpet for moderating. We should hold annual awards for awesome mods too. (SirJolt #1)
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On June 16 2012 23:54 Lysenko wrote:Man, this one confuses me. Orcasgt24 says: Show nested quote +Hope they shoot the guy. Nothing would please me more then for the security company to figure out who it was before the police and track him down and put 4 rounds into his head. and Nazarid responds: Show nested quote +yer post makes me sick. Do you use that brain you were given? or do you just enjoy spouting off ignorance? 2 people were put in the ground and you want to put another person in it? wow good awesome post man. Life is worth saving even if some one did kill others they should rot in a prison cell for years over just ending their life. I am so glad people with you're ignorance and stupidity are not in charge of the investigation. and gets banned? I mean, why is it ok for Orcasgt24 to advocate someone's murder and not for someone to respond to that with a properly horrified response? ETT says: Show nested quote +Ease up. Someone not sharing the same POV as you doesn't warrant this type of response. but I would say calling for another person's death is more than just "not sharing the same POV." Seriously, wtf. Edit: This probably belongs in the feedback area, so let's not derail this thread. Sorry. Well, this IS the ABL thread and you're discussing a ban, so it's not really derailing it.
But I agree. People who post utter crap should get moderated. Just because you're being civil but spouting nonsense that everybody else disagrees with (eg saying murder should be legal, an extreme example) doesn't mean that the person in question should be left alone.
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On June 17 2012 00:05 solidbebe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 23:54 Lysenko wrote:Nazarid was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby. + Show Spoiler +Man, this one confuses me. Orcasgt24 says: Hope they shoot the guy. Nothing would please me more then for the security company to figure out who it was before the police and track him down and put 4 rounds into his head. and Nazarid responds: yer post makes me sick. Do you use that brain you were given? or do you just enjoy spouting off ignorance? 2 people were put in the ground and you want to put another person in it? wow good awesome post man. Life is worth saving even if some one did kill others they should rot in a prison cell for years over just ending their life. I am so glad people with you're ignorance and stupidity are not in charge of the investigation. and gets banned? I mean, why is it ok for Orcasgt24 to advocate someone's murder and not for someone to respond to that with a properly horrified response? ETT says: Ease up. Someone not sharing the same POV as you doesn't warrant this type of response. but I would say calling for another person's death is more than just "not sharing the same POV." Seriously, wtf. Edit: This probably belongs in the feedback area, so let's not derail this thread. Sorry . Don't know if it adds much but I don't agree with this ban either, a warning perhaps, but not a ban. But I'm not a mod so I think it's more about calling someone ignorant and stupid which should be a ban no matter what the context.
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Lorch was just temp banned for 2 weeks by SirJolt.
That account was created on 2011-06-27 17:58:17 and had 1271 posts.
Reason: I was just going to warn, but you seem to have a long list of previous warnings and moderations.
I was still considering just warning you (again), but then I reread your post advocating that people should never forget that TT1 is a hacker and that he should be banned from tournaments :/
I dont understand why he should get banned for this : S imo he is 100% right, there should be a 0 tolerance on hacking, maybe if they ladder hack then ban them for 5 years or something, but TT1 hacked in a tournament qualifier, ban him for life and blacklist him from EVERYTHING esports related. Hackers are the absolute scum of the earth, tt1 might be a nice guy IRL, but there is no excuse for hacking, and should be no forgiveness.
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Bah tt1 a nice guy IRL? bah And no, there should be forgiveness.
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On June 17 2012 01:30 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +Lorch was just temp banned for 2 weeks by SirJolt.
That account was created on 2011-06-27 17:58:17 and had 1271 posts.
Reason: I was just going to warn, but you seem to have a long list of previous warnings and moderations.
I was still considering just warning you (again), but then I reread your post advocating that people should never forget that TT1 is a hacker and that he should be banned from tournaments :/ I dont understand why he should get banned for this : S imo he is 100% right, there should be a 0 tolerance on hacking, maybe if they ladder hack then ban them for 5 years or something, but TT1 hacked in a tournament qualifier, ban him for life and blacklist him from EVERYTHING esports related. Hackers are the absolute scum of the earth, tt1 might be a nice guy IRL, but there is no excuse for hacking, and should be no forgiveness.
Damn man...I am pretty sure there are worse people in the world than hackers on a game. Also, most of these hackers are/were just punk kids. This is like saying that a kid stole a toy from another kid on the playground, so therefore we should just lock him in prison, no forgiveness at all for something that they did as a dumb punk kid. I disagree entirely...while if you get caught cheating at a game, I have no problem with that league or whatever banning you, but to call them scum of the earth based on a mistake seems a bit overblown to me.
Also, TT1 hacked in BW, not SC2 as far as anyone knows. It is a different game with different rules. Hell, baseball now has some of the most stringent cheating rules of any sport and even it forgives most offenses. Even if someone gets kicked out of baseball for cheating, it does not mean that person can't go play another sport professionally.
I agree that tourneys and the ladder should have little or no tolerance for cheating, but 0% for the rest of your life is a bit harsh by ANY standard.
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On June 17 2012 01:30 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +Lorch was just temp banned for 2 weeks by SirJolt.
That account was created on 2011-06-27 17:58:17 and had 1271 posts.
Reason: I was just going to warn, but you seem to have a long list of previous warnings and moderations.
I was still considering just warning you (again), but then I reread your post advocating that people should never forget that TT1 is a hacker and that he should be banned from tournaments :/ I dont understand why he should get banned for this : S imo he is 100% right, there should be a 0 tolerance on hacking, maybe if they ladder hack then ban them for 5 years or something, but TT1 hacked in a tournament qualifier, ban him for life and blacklist him from EVERYTHING esports related. Hackers are the absolute scum of the earth, tt1 might be a nice guy IRL, but there is no excuse for hacking, and should be no forgiveness. Mass murderers etc. don't deserve second chances, other people do, don't blow this so much out of proportion.
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On the hacking issue, i think TL is wise in taking each case as a seperate incident and treating each offender as an individual. It looks less consistent, but i'd rather be sensible than consistent.
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L3g3nd_ TT1 isn't saviOr. He isn't Spades. He isn't an unrepentant or egregious jerk. Everyone should have to pay for cheating no doubt. But he has and a lot of us have forgiven. Shit, most of the people on this site are just going on the stories they've read or been told (myself included).
He's active, nice and does not cheat. He's apologised and the staff have accepted it. Please consider that a lot of us think he's paid and is worth a place in the community.
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On June 17 2012 02:00 Probe1 wrote: L3g3nd_ TT1 isn't saviOr. He isn't Spades. He isn't an unrepentant or egregious jerk. Everyone should have to pay for cheating no doubt. But he has and a lot of us have forgiven. Shit, most of the people on this site are just going on the stories they've read or been told (myself included).
He's active, nice and does not cheat. He's apologised and the staff have accepted it. Please consider that a lot of us think he's paid and is worth a place in the community. it just occurred to me that savior DID destroy everyone in 2009... although we might not have found out about it till 2010
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