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Canada5154 Posts
On May 13 2014 07:52 soon.Cloak wrote: I'm just curious, FireBolt/Zealously/Naz/Other Reds/Blues, if you expected this reaction. I mean, is it possible that you thought this was a good idea and would go over well, but are reconsidering some aspects of the idea (not connecting the General Forum, getting rid of the Dota streams, others) in light of the backlash?
I wasn't closely involved with any of this, but I'll tell you that almost every change this site has seen gets this much "backlash" -- the powers-that-be will no doubt consider the legitimate concerns, but I'm also sure that they'll give it a chance to grow into its own before making any major changes.
I think that's a good approach for everyone. If you can chill, chill. There are a lot of positives for Dota having its own site; chief among them is growth -- which I think we all want for the Dota community.
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Grats to dota fans! Cool layout of the site too, nice job TL!
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I just wish there were still tournament threads and streams listed on this site. Sucks that I still get LoL and stuff here, but not other games I'm actually interested in on one site. For ages now I've just been able to load TL to see if any SC2/Dota streams are worth watching, and apparently that's now over
The aim was apparently to get this site back to being dedicated to SC, which is fine, but I object to LoL content being here still and not Dota given that aim I have no problem with LoL per se, I'm just not interested in it but I am in dota, so it's doubly annoying...
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lol will soon be moved to 'other games'
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LiquidOtherGames.net confirmed!
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Dunno, kinda liked having TL as my go-to site for all my E-SPORTS. Then again, it makes sense to have separate sites, with the flood of Dota tournies and all.
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I appreciate the effort of change, but sadly I have been trained to go to Teamliquid for about 7 years now for everything I want to know, specially DOTA, since it has been around since the beginning... and now I am forced to look at 2 different websites for things. Ad revenue aside from pushing people to 2 sites, this will just make me watch less DOTA2 and Less SC2, because I can't find it all on one site
I have literally watched absolutely no Hearthstone tournaments or anything other than Trump/Kripp since Hearthstone change, and I see nothing changing with me and DOTA2 and SC2
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On May 13 2014 10:26 Ydriel wrote: Dunno, kinda liked having TL as my go-to site for all my E-SPORTS. Then again, it makes sense to have separate sites, with the flood of Dota tournies and all.
agreed. i like liquiddota, and it should be a site only for dota, however i do not agree with teamliquid.net separating dota from it. i like typing 'tea' into my firefox browser, and teamliquid opening up, and hitting up a dota stream and getting dota news right from there. i don't think the idea of 2 separate sites is more efficient.
edit: furthermore, i believe a change of this magnitude should have warranted a community poll ahead of time. because if we're honest, the dota community is magnitudes larger than the sc2 community right now, so only makes sense to incorporate both since "Team Liquid" is an sc2 and dota team. (i know this is a sc first-and-foremost site, so don't bother reiterating that). just my $0.02 on how change should be assessed.
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On May 13 2014 10:30 ImHuko wrote: I appreciate the effort of change, but sadly I have been trained to go to Teamliquid for about 7 years now for everything I want to know, specially DOTA, since it has been around since the beginning... and now I am forced to look at 2 different websites for things. Ad revenue aside from pushing people to 2 sites, this will just make me watch less DOTA2 and Less SC2, because I can't find it all on one site
I have literally watched absolutely no Hearthstone tournaments or anything other than Trump/Kripp since Hearthstone change, and I see nothing changing with me and DOTA2 and SC2
and yes, this is my exact same scenario teamliquid is my go-to for eSSPORTS. not an eSPORT.
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Cool site.Maybe it's time for main TL site to have a makeover.
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absolutely hate this, on the other hand, this is a great opportunity for a new site to come up and fill in the gap that just appeared (esports event/stream aggregator w/ community forums)
not the death of TL, but will certainly hurt it
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Good move, I've had all DOTA Content on this website disabled anyway
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I am very happy about this move. I am only here for Starcraft and not interested in Dota at all and while there may be some people who are interested in both games it should certainly be a minority. It always seemed pretty arbitrary anyway that Starcraft and Dota in particular were put together. They are not even both from Blizzard or anything like that. With Starcraft and Hearthstone it would have made at least a little bit more sense but I am also very happy that that is not the case. I personally follow both Starcraft and Hearthstone but I am very glad that I can visit two different Liquid sites for it and not have the content mixed together on one site because Liquid offers so much content for each of them. If I was following both Starcraft and Dota I would also prefer a separate site for Dota, so I think those people should actually be the most happy about this change. If you only followed one game you could always just use the filter of course but if you wanted to follow both you could only get one news page with both stuff mixed together. I also don't understand people saying that they saw TL as a general esports news site. In that case it would have been pretty biased, making Dota seem so much more important than LoL. I remember when they opened the Dota section they said it was because a lot of staff people liked both Starcraft and Dota but I always thought that was a silly reason to put these two together.
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So I messaged the emulator who mentioned earlier he would expand on the decision for no hide spoilers option, while I wait for a response could any other TL staff explain this? I understand I sound like a baby but this would make liquid dota something I would rarely use. Hide spoilers was the best feature ever and without it I'll have little to no use for either site.
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Why does the Dota 2 sidebar button not redirect to liquiddota.com?
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Since everyone is complaining im just gonna chime in with my "I prefer it now" comment
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On May 13 2014 10:56 gulati wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 10:26 Ydriel wrote: Dunno, kinda liked having TL as my go-to site for all my E-SPORTS. Then again, it makes sense to have separate sites, with the flood of Dota tournies and all. agreed. i like liquiddota, and it should be a site only for dota, however i do not agree with teamliquid.net separating dota from it. i like typing 'tea' into my firefox browser, and teamliquid opening up, and hitting up a dota stream and getting dota news right from there. i don't think the idea of 2 separate sites is more efficient.
Because if they don't separate them, no one would be forced to go to liquiddota and it would obviously just die.
They're giving it a chance which is normal, I just hope if it doesn't pick up they either go back to how it was, or find a way to make the sites a bit more connected (which is the main gripe I currently have)
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Thank god. I might actually start visiting TL again. The mix of Dota 2 content with the Starcraft content really, really put me off this site. It made me feel like you guys didn't care about StarCraft anymore. These days I've been going to reddit for my starcraft fix.
I'm disappointed it took this long to make this move.
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I love it. I miss my community tab and games general there though :/
Would it be possible to show the general tabs on liquid dota too? Stuff like "other games", "media and entertainment etc"
Maybe optional?
It's a bit weird that I have to come to the starcraft site for that when I only play and watch dota
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