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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44564 Posts
June 21 2013 20:24 GMT
#341
On June 22 2013 05:17 BisuDagger wrote:
We should make TL+ free for a month every 20,000 posts. That would really motivate people to post!


That would be fantastic ^^ Hahahahaha
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 21 2013 20:25 GMT
#342
I kinda miss the asian dating site ads on the sidebar now.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 20:27:49
June 21 2013 20:27 GMT
#343
On June 22 2013 04:56 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 04:50 Talin wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:29 salle wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:24 zul wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:09 mkfuba07 wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:07 zul wrote:
On June 22 2013 03:50 Yoshi- wrote:
On June 22 2013 03:49 zul wrote:
The price totally surprises me. I thought it would be 1 dollar a month or something ... this is still only a forum.

Why is it visible to others that you pay for tl+, that might be the first step towards a two class society in here and I dont see why this will do any good.


You could easily just block the gold images with adblock

and you think everybody will do this? I highly doubt that. I would even go that far and imagine that if in doubt, mods wont ban a tl+ customer, whereas a regular tl user will get the ban. This will happen, because nobody wants to lose a paying customer.

I use addblock, even on TL. I tried unblocking it here, but switching through streams was such a pain in the ass, that I had to activate addblock again. Still, I actively want to support TL, so I ordered some clothes. That kind of support is only positive, whereas I see many problematic points within tl+ ...

Have you read any of nazgul's posts responding to the exact request that TL+ purchasers have some kind of mod immunity? He's pretty clearly against it.

I read it and I even believe him right now. Still, I have experienced things like this in the past and views on certain points can (often "will") change.

TL is my online to-go-place and I hope this site will be around for a very long time. Because of that I write my concerns down. What will happen with the extra dollars TL will take in? Hire some vivid TL users and pay them fulltime? perfect! for now. What if TL generates less money in the future and they need to ban some tl+ customers with the risk to lose them, which might lead to the decision to fire a befriended coworker. They wont fire the friend, so they wont ban the tl+ customers. I´m not talking about the 100% obvious bans, but the subtleties.

And I dont only see the problem with the bans. What if tl+ customers that used to post the regular forums get pissed off by some users and only use the private forum from that point on. I know some other forums where coremembers used to do that and the websites lost all the other members over the time of months and years, which lead to their insignificance.

The moderation will remain the same because it's part of the USP (Unique Selling Point) of TL. So one person paying TL+ vs all the negativity that would come from allowing someone to go unmoderated when they should be does not add up. So I think you can rest assured about the TL Moderation will remain as it is.


Except that it would probably go unnoticed unless someone is being really blatant about it. While nothing drastic is going to change, it will be interesting to see just how big of a ban-shield it is, as it seems highly improbable that it will have zero effect on moderators' judgement.


Considering how ultra subjective every moderated action can be, I'm pretty sure this won't be an issue. See the TL commandments. I dare anyone with TL+ to spoil game of thrones and see what happen


I've seen more Game of Thrones spoilers in ABL than anything else, shit is like a honeypot

On June 22 2013 05:25 Talionis wrote:
I kinda miss the asian dating site ads on the sidebar now.



You get them too?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#344
On June 22 2013 05:17 BisuDagger wrote:
We should make TL+ free for a month every 20,000 posts. That would really motivate people to post!


NO! One Torte de Lini is enough!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 21 2013 20:29 GMT
#345
On June 22 2013 05:24 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..


that fail ^^

especially muricans written in caps xD

I gladly support your site Nazgul considering how much time I spent here per day, just bought the 1month thing to test out the features, will most likely purchase year-long sub, next month then.

Thanks, always appreciate hearing that.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#346
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..

And Meat is Norwegian right? (also I thought you were a Swede, wth)

The idea of TL+ forum doesn't really swing to me, why'd I go on a forum where I wouldn't be able to get everybodies opinions etc, like people won't necessarily be more inclined to talk to you and make more friends that way, all the people I've gotten to know through TL has been through retardedly random circumstances so I don't see the point to it at all

I do see a point in supporting TL though, which I sure-as-hell would do if I actually had an income right now
In the woods, there lurks..
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#347
On June 22 2013 05:25 Talionis wrote:
I kinda miss the asian dating site ads on the sidebar now.


You should mute those as does not apply and watch the amazing stuff Google finds you. Dates sites you never knew existed.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 21 2013 20:32 GMT
#348
On June 22 2013 05:31 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..

And Meat is Norwegian right? (also I thought you were a Swede, wth)

The idea of TL+ forum doesn't really swing to me, why'd I go on a forum where I wouldn't be able to get everybodies opinions etc, like people won't necessarily be more inclined to talk to you and make more friends that way, all the people I've gotten to know through TL has been through retardedly random circumstances so I don't see the point to it at all

I do see a point in supporting TL though, which I sure-as-hell would do if I actually had an income right now

Meat is Dutch too!
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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
June 21 2013 20:33 GMT
#349
Apologize for playing that race cj.Idra
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
June 21 2013 20:35 GMT
#350
This is cool,i don't post much but i have TL opened all day
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 21 2013 20:35 GMT
#351
On June 22 2013 05:17 BisuDagger wrote:
We should make TL+ free for a month every 20,000 posts. That would really motivate people to post!

Its like you dont want Shellshock's money.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 21 2013 20:36 GMT
#352
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I caved damn you Nazgul.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness, 20 quid for a site that I browse 2-3 hours a day and that has brought me endless entertainment is more than worth it. <3
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 20:39:20
June 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#353
i'm getting the 1 year deal.

Liquipedia all on its own is worth $30/year.

i'd like it if Blizzard authorized TL.Net to have their own moderated BNet2 ladder.

TL specialists would stamp out hackers.
TL members paying a fee get a hacker free ladder experience.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#354
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..

The servers are in New York though :D
http://bwchart.teamliquid.net
www.teamliquidpro.com
www.pokerstrategytsl3.com
http://wiki.teamliquid.net
www.teamliquid.net
www.teamliquidstarleague.com
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#355
On June 22 2013 05:38 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..

The servers are in New York though :D
http://bwchart.teamliquid.net
www.teamliquidpro.com
www.pokerstrategytsl3.com
http://wiki.teamliquid.net
www.teamliquid.net
www.teamliquidstarleague.com

Blame the Brit on our staff for that.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#356
So if I buy this, I can repeatedly insult the unwashed masses of normal users without fear of being banned?
No, you jerk. TL+ users will largely be moderated the same way as normal users, and will be held to the same posting standards. The TL+ private forums however may have slightly less strict moderation when it comes to thread and post content. If you buy TL+ for yourself or gift it to others, you are just purchasing some added features and access while supporting TL. It is not a get-out-of-ban free card or a way to feel superior to others.


Aww that's a shame
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 21 2013 20:45 GMT
#357
I wish I had money ><
+
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
June 21 2013 20:45 GMT
#358
TL just lost they best virtue and advantage - equality. Sad to see, but I'm hoping only good things will come from that.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
June 21 2013 20:46 GMT
#359
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..


Oh, god that should be a quote in the next TL newspaper (you know, not the Pitchfork Reporter, the other whose name i never remember )
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
June 21 2013 20:46 GMT
#360
On June 22 2013 05:46 Wertheron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:14 Hellbat wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:59 Nakama wrote:
for me this seems like a big step backwards but who can blame tl many other internet sites are doing it nowadays.. capitalism 4tw... thats why i am always laughing about ppl saying our society progresses forward... its not like u have to pay 4 sth that was free before but NOW u have to pay for new features which is in fact the same . TL started as a community page and got this many members due to many ppl doing stuff for free and when they get big they somehow feel the need to make even more money.... i will never get the logic behind this if its not only greed


In case you didn't know, this is an AMERICAN website, made by AMERICANS for an AMERICAN made game.

We love capitalism

I'm Dutch..


Oh, god that should be a quote in the next TL newspaper (you know, not the Pitchfork Reporter, the other whose name i never remember )

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