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United States33222 Posts
Position: Starcraft 2 Writer (unpaid)
Hiring Period: Indefinite
Number of Positions: Undetermined
Description
Have you read the front page lately? And I don't mean simply glancing at it before you go to click on one of the forums (those who have their landing pages set at /forum need not apply), I mean actually clicking on the articles and reading through them.
Maybe you really like some of our stuff, and some of it perhaps not as much. Same with us, mostly. Though we pride ourselves on our news, we're always trying to make it better. That's where you (might) come in.
We're looking for new SC II writers to cover the e-Sports scene. There's a ton of tournaments with a ton of games lately, and we're feeling rather undermanned. We're gonna need new writers to cover all of the major tournaments, cover them well, and do it in a TIMELY manner.
What kind of stuff do we need written?
Well first, there's the basic stuff. Short match reports, upcoming match previews, player profiles, etc. It's not the most interesting stuff in the world for most writers, but it's stuff that's gotta get done. We like to get those kinda things over with as efficiently as we can, so we can move onto cooler stuff.
Here's something that might interest those of you who cut their teeth with SC II: Starcraft 1 still has a deeper, richer scene. Don't believe me? Read any of the recent Proleague or MSL news posts, or check out the the Brood War forums. Sure, it may look like a bunch of obsessive fanboy-ism at first, but that's precisely the kind of interest and passion that drove Brood War on for over ten years.
Starcraft II is a younger game for sure, so there's not as much history to draw from. But even so, there are definitely some interesting characters, bitter rivalries, e-Sports drama and just tons of awesome stories waiting to be told. The intertwined fates of MKP vs MVP. The times and trials of NASL. Multiple, competing leagues worldwide. ThorZain vs MC becoming THE new standard for entertaining e-Sports matches.
These are things that need to be explored, analyzed, and written about, in only the way a truly passionate fan can. If you can do that, well, then we'll give the podium to you.
In short, we want writers, who will be asked to perform a simple task: Watch a league, tell us what happened, and then tell us why it was interesting.
Application process
Send an application containing the following to k.woo@teamliquid.net (WaxAngel)
- Your TeamLiquid ID and online messenger contact information (MSN, AIM, Gchat, etc).
- Three writing samples on the topic of SC II e-Sports. No minimum or maximum length on these, just be reasonable. Topics need only be vaguely related to e-Sports if they are interesting enough. Additional samples after the third will be ignored.
- The league or tournament you would prefer to cover.
- That is all. Do not send any resumes or things that were not asked for. For now, all we want to see is your writing.
* This position is unpaid
** Subscriptions will be provided for writers covering pay-to-watch leagues.
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Cool stuff. TL's writing staff is so baller 
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I was wondering when the position may be closed to applications? Or will it be open until you have found what you are looking for?
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I wish I had the free time to write. Would love to contribute. But alas, having a GF, Working Full time, Playing Tennis, and Starcraft on a daily basis leaves me with barely enough time to sleep lol.
Good luck finding people. I love reading what the TL writers have to say. They are always quality articles, and very well written.
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I was hoping that cloning technology was far enough to produce perfect Hot_Bid clones, so they could write hundreds of articles each day.
Just as TLO said on TLAttack (at least how I remeber it  ): 'I think it's just a good advice in general: to live your life always asking yourself 'What would Hot_bid do?' '
Anyways, looking forward to some cool stuff coming up
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United States33222 Posts
Open for an indefinite amount of time, until we are pleased with what we have. Pretty much what you said :o
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ill apply to this, do the writing samples have to have been published somewhere or can we mock them up as and when in privacy?
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I've been thinking of applying for this for a while now. I could crank out some sick articles.
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United States33222 Posts
On May 03 2011 06:53 Frack wrote:
ill apply to this, do the writing samples have to have been published somewhere or can we mock them up as and when in privacy?
I don't care where or what format they're in as long as I can read them.
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Is there going to be some kind of salary?
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For the writing samples, would something like a battle report or some sort of game summary suffice? Or are you looking for more prose-y stuff?
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On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary?
Unpaid position. Read the post.
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On May 03 2011 07:02 Biigfoot wrote:Unpaid position. Read the post.
Endless TL fame. I would love to write for TL but my English is kinda sloppy :-/
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On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary?
lots of respect and appreciation!
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On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary?
12 Million ESPORTS dollars
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:12 Million ESPORTS dollars
It's only 10 million.
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Hiring implies a salary, so might want to change the title.
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On May 03 2011 07:06 Coolwhip wrote:
Hiring implies a salary, so might want to change the title.
Not necessarily. It implies being paid in something, but it is not restricted to simply money. It could be a non-material thing like respect. Or hugs from HotBid. Both of which can, at times, be priceless.
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Hiring implies employment, which is what they're doing.
Employment doesn't necessarily have salaries; just expectations, standards and work ethics.
(In reality, you work for compensation, the compensation doesn't have to be financial).
Edit: Oh and I'd be interested, but I don't feel I am adequate. Nonetheless, I remember reading about hiring more writers previously by another staff member. Was that request ever fulfilled or is this a continuation?
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On May 03 2011 07:02 Biigfoot wrote:Unpaid position. Read the post.
I read, just missed it
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Braavos36374 Posts
On May 03 2011 07:06 Coolwhip wrote:
Hiring implies a salary, so might want to change the title.
Lots of companies hire interns, they definitely say "hire intern" and many of the positions are unpaid. Are you sure all these major corporations are incorrectly using the term?
Also, you might want to change your post because salary implies a periodic payment rather than a per-hour or per-article wage. Lots of employees are hired but don't have salaries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary
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On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million.
Well if its only 10 million..........
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Are there any topics you recommend we write about specifically in the category of SCII e-Sports?
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On May 03 2011 07:02 Biigfoot wrote:
For the writing samples, would something like a battle report or some sort of game summary suffice? Or are you looking for more prose-y stuff?
Also wondering this oOo
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why you want this position:
1) millions of ESPORTS dollars
2) fame and glory
3) practice and show off your writing skills for EPEEN points
4) put it on your resume for that job writing editorials for NYT and/or the Enquirer
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United States33222 Posts
in terms of topics for writing samples, I really don't care as long as it is loosely related to e-sports in some way.
Just send in stuff you think you wrote well, and that should be fine :O
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I've been on TL for a long, long time.. Might have to look into this. ^^
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I'll put in my effort with this weeks NASL's
My grammer and spelling is trash but I do think I will enjoy writing a bit if nothing else.
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On May 03 2011 07:08 Biigfoot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:06 Coolwhip wrote:
Hiring implies a salary, so might want to change the title. Not necessarily. It implies being paid in something, but it is not restricted to simply money. It could be a non-material thing like respect. Or hugs from HotBid. Both of which can, at times, be priceless.
To hell with money. True thugs get hugs.
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On May 03 2011 07:12 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:06 Coolwhip wrote:
Hiring implies a salary, so might want to change the title. Lots of companies hire interns, they definitely say "hire intern" and many of the positions are unpaid. Are you sure all these major corporations are incorrectly using the term? Also, you might want to change your post because salary implies a periodic payment rather than a per-hour or per-article wage. Lots of employees are hired but don't have salaries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hire
Since we're 'wikiquoting'. No real two ways about it if you want to go for clarity/transparency 
But it's your thread - gl with getting an appropriate application!
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On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million.
Why would I want to pay 10 million esport dollars to write on TL?
+ Show Spoiler +Who am I kidding I would do that in a heart beat.
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What if your like 14 and want to give this a shot even though your young but you have a reporting experience
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Sounds great, going to be great with some new blood. 
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Good luck with the search. I doubt nothing can beat the broodwar writers ever, but maybe someone can prove me wrong?
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Australia8532 Posts
On May 03 2011 07:31 Stealth.Ninja wrote:
What if your like 14 and want to give this a shot even though your young but you have a reporting experience
Try it dude! The worst case is you don't get it and you're no worse off than you are now.
If you feel you can handle it, apply!
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On May 03 2011 07:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hiring implies employment, which is what they're doing.
Employment doesn't necessarily have salaries;
The first four definitions of Wiktionary suggest otherwise. Of course, people could argue over the next few pages over the meanings and definitions of "hiring", "employment" or even "salary" but it would be just about as pointless as arguing that "rape" can be used as a synonym to "pillage."
It's easier to just rename this news "TL is recruiting SC2 Writers" to avoid any confusion.
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this is great to hear. i've been looking for ways to give back to the community for awhile now. ill be hashing out sample pieces tonight. =)
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On May 03 2011 07:38 Lotar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hiring implies employment, which is what they're doing.
Employment doesn't necessarily have salaries; The first four definitions of Wiktionary suggest otherwise. Of course, people could argue over the next few pages over the meanings and definitions of "hiring", "employment" or even "salary" but it would be just about as pointless as arguing that "rape" can be used as a synonym to "pillage."It's easier to just rename this news "TL is recruiting SC2 Writers" to avoid any confusion.
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place.
edit: forgot about the actual topic of thread. Wish I had the free time to try this, GL to anyone who applies.
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Can the topics that you send already be reported but put on ur own words?
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cool! looking to try applying!!!!
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A sign that SCII is expanding at a health rate! I love all the reports people write here, I hope some very talented people apply for this. Sadly, my major is math, not english. =P
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How long are the turnaround times? Do we have 24 hours to get the analysis in after the event? or does it need to be quicker than that? If deadlines are reasonable, and can work around a 9-5, I would gladly volunteer.
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Something I would love to do, but not sure my English writing ability would be up to par, I have a lot of spare time so I shall give it a shot :D
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Oh, this is going to be baller. I'm definitely going to apply for this tonight
Edit: How do you want it formatted? HTML? BBcode? Just text, thank you?
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On May 03 2011 07:44 Sprungjeezy wrote:
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place.
It is clear that several people came to this thread thinking that TL was hiring (in the dictionary sense of the word) writers. Changing the word to "recruiting" would probably save us this argument as well those personal attacks.
Alternatively, if the usage of the word is intentional in an effort to grab the attention of more readers, the "unpaid" nature of the position could be specified in the first paragraphe. This way you still get the thread views and you avoid most of the confusion.
Note: I will not read this thread any further to avoid getting baited into a pointless argument.
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On May 03 2011 08:02 Ribbon wrote:Oh, this is going to be baller. I'm definitely going to apply for this tonight Edit: How do you want it formatted? HTML? BBcode? Just text, thank you?
Also wondering this and if you can write about articles or news already written about in your own words
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Damn... I got an offer to write for mym but I ignored it, and now this is so tempting. I love to write, and I can do it damn well if I try, but SC2 just doesn't inspire me as much as other topics...
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Oh very exciting indeed, should be awesome to see some new blood on the TL writing team. Best of luck to those applying.
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I demand esports bucks or so help me i will write for tl.
Also people think of connotative meanings of hire they inferred compensation although in general any way of wording it infers that you get something, be it if you used position, openings et al.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Some of the best posters here on the site started up as writers. Here's your chance to show everyone what you can bring to the table.
If you're looking for something in return for this job, then you shouldn't even bother.
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Will our account age and post count influence the acceptance of us?
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Good luck to all the applicants!
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On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million.
ESPORTS dollars are on their way down, can i get paid in ESPORT euros instead ?
On a serious note : Looking forward to more great SC2 coverage, if you still search when I´m done with all my university stuff thats going on right now, I might give it a try myself
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Does every kind of this 3 writing samples are full articles of "x" (the full article counts as 1) thing or just lets say a NASL match up preview (or which every preview counts as 1)??
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Why am i still 2 years away from a degree in journalism? Fuck.
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On May 03 2011 08:40 Engore wrote:
Why am i still 2 years away from a degree in journalism? Fuck.
as someone who went to school for journalism: you wont magically jump up in talent when you receive the degree. why not apply now?
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I've been doing some translations to PT-BR from various articles, too bad it's not a translator you need =P
Brazilian scene looks week anyway ={
Gl whoever apply, make us proud :}
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Can the articles be made up? Such as IdrA vs Jaedong (not that absurd that is, just an example) Preview? It helps show free writing skills a bit more.
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God damn I'm heading out tomorrow for a few days and I don't think I can whip out any SC2/esports related writing. Can I send you three writing samples about topics like parastate industry in Mexico and Brazil or something, I promise you my writing skills transfer over to esports related stuff ^.^
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United States33222 Posts
to everyone: stop second guessing yourself and just send in stuff about starcraft that you enjoyed writing the most
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Sounds like an awesome gig, and may look good on the resume for those looking to go into some sort of journalism field.
I'm a good writer, and would definitely apply, but unfortunately I need to get paid this summer and probably won't have the time 
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I would do it but I'm not that good of a writer Good luck to all that apply!
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I'd assume not, but just to be clarify: The evaluation is ONLY on writing, so no bonus points for making your battle reports look nice with screenshots/banners?
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im not sure i can think of 3 samples that are sufficiently different from each other, tbh i just like the idea of doing some of the recaps that tl writers do, they always seem so informative, a real good read
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Good luck to all that apply!
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I'm going to apply, as I love TL and want to give back to the community, but don't have that much time! How much would I be expected to write for the community if I were to apply and be accepted? I couldn't do battle reports, as I almost never have time to watch VODs, but have a lot of knowledge about new players and rivalries, as well as know stats on almost all the names in the biz!
I would be willing to write 2-3 articles a month, evenly spaced with a good week or so or forewarning about anything player-related!
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Does TL have a professional writing team or are all the writers volunteers?
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Best of luck to those who apply. If I did writing on esports, I'd apply. If I just wrote some random esports articles could I apply?
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I would apply if i wasnt already doing this for another website, maybe one day! :D hope TL gets some great new writers!
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Omg subscriptions! YES
Hm, how often would you have to write? If there's at least a couple writers, there is usually may be an average of 4 articles a week, excluding things like interviews etc. I'm definitely interested but if it's too much I may not be able to do it because of school and stuff
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I've inquired about something like this in the past, definitely going to apply now that there seems to be a demand for writers. Should have my app in tonight, crossing my fingers ^^ Edit: All done, that feels good :D
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On May 03 2011 09:16 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:I'm a good writer, and would definitely apply, but unfortunately I need to get paid this summer and probably won't have the time
THIS.
I would apply 100% if there was any reasonable payment in 'money' - besides the 10 million E-Sports dollars or hugs from <enter fav TL member here>.
I love TL and the community - and watch literally all GSL matches and any other (NASL, etc) matches I can. However, I do like to put peanut-butter on my bread; no payment doesn't help with that, unfortunately.
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Can't wait to read some more awesome SC2 articles in the future. I hope the new guys will deliver, since the bw writers have set the bar quite high
Are we going to have an SC2 Power Rank(tm) soon??
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I was thrown off by the "Hiring" part xD. I'm sure there are a lot of fantastic writers out there who would be willing to do this for free though. I would have loved to help out but since I already run my own site it would be hard to make time for both O_o
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There is nothing, I repeat absolutely nothing more intriguing to me than an opportunity to actually give colour to to a sport with a massive and yet still growing pallet, unfortunately the link i try to go to to apply keeps sending me right back to the team liquid homepage,I'm probably misunderstanding the entire navigation system aren't I,if so please excuse my technological ineptitude. Can someone please tell me how exactly to apply? I would be endlessly grateful.
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My god im an idiot, its an email, please disregard the previous post.
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On May 03 2011 07:37 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:31 Stealth.Ninja wrote:
What if your like 14 and want to give this a shot even though your young but you have a reporting experience Try it dude! The worst case is you don't get it and you're no worse off than you are now. If you feel you can handle it, apply!
Thanks i decided to try to apply as it might help somewhat with high school as i am taking a journalism course on it
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Btw, is there a specific site you want us to upload it to or something like that?
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United States4053 Posts
On May 03 2011 10:17 Sealteam wrote:
Does TL have a professional writing team or are all the writers volunteers?
Most but not all of TL staff is a volunteer force.
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Sent in application to k.woo@teamliquid.net
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Although I don't think I'm a great writer, I'm gonna apply. I love ESPORTS and want to try to help anyway I can. ESPORTS fightingu~
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How long the application process is going to last ? I plan on applying but i need some time to translate and rewrite old writings.
Since english is not my native language and that i have a lot of urgent things going on i don't know if i'll be able to submit my application on time
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this is why Plexa was such a huge loss anyway good luck to the people applying and I hope you can fill in the shoes of our beloved toss
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Curious as to when the deadline to this is? I'm soon entering my finals week right now so I'd rather focus on that, but I'd love to apply once I'm done with my finals.
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School is killing me, but what the hell I can make time for TL and ESPORTS. Sending in my app, it'd be great to work with Waxangel and co. <3
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I wish my english would be good enough to take a position like this but truly I think it is not. I have both the interest and the time needed since I work nights in sweden with alot of spare time (and I am more or less always able to do things like this at work). Sadly, I asume that you should be a native english speaker for this to be written well enough for everyone to enjoy. I so admire everyone who take so much of their spare time to contribute to this community for to be completly frank, without those people TL would be so much less and without TL I myself woult most likely not have discovered the beauty of E-sports!
GL in finding writers!
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Hiring? Shouldn't it be "recruiting" since you're not paying?
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I probably don't even have to ask this, but i'm right in assuming all application papers will be posted for public humiliation and scrutiny right?
:7
(Seriously tho, GL to everybody doing this... i'm a terrible writer but the job would be fun since I keep pretty uptodate anyways)
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I haven't been watching too many games lately, so I don't know if I'd be qualified to do something like this..
Hopefully I'll find the time to get StarCraft back into my schedule and then, if TL is still looking for help, I'll apply.
To anyone considering it: do it! If you have the time and the skill, this is a great way to get involved in the community!
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Braavos36374 Posts
On May 03 2011 08:05 Lotar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:44 Sprungjeezy wrote:
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place. It is clear that several people came to this thread thinking that TL was hiring (in the dictionary sense of the word) writers. Changing the word to "recruiting" would probably save us this argument as well those personal attacks. Alternatively, if the usage of the word is intentional in an effort to grab the attention of more readers, the "unpaid" nature of the position could be specified in the first paragraphe. This way you still get the thread views and you avoid most of the confusion. Note: I will not read this thread any further to avoid getting baited into a pointless argument.
I kind of understand your point? I'll change the thread title.
But honestly, do you really think that fake fooling people into thinking its a paid position was really our goal? It's completely unintentional, and kind of ridiculous that anyone would think this is a reasonable strategy for getting a good volunteer writer.
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On May 03 2011 13:18 doffe wrote:
I wish my english would be good enough to take a position like this but truly I think it is not. I have both the interest and the time needed since I work nights in sweden with alot of spare time (and I am more or less always able to do things like this at work). Sadly, I asume that you should be a native english speaker for this to be written well enough for everyone to enjoy. I so admire everyone who take so much of their spare time to contribute to this community for to be completly frank, without those people TL would be so much less and without TL I myself woult most likely not have discovered the beauty of E-sports!
GL in finding writers!
Your English is pretty good man! Nice to know people appreciate the writers' work, I prefer to take and give nothing back because I'm a bad person.
On May 03 2011 13:47 justdweezil wrote:
Hiring? Shouldn't it be "recruiting" since you're not paying?
No, I feel that recruiting is less formal a word and implies the recruiter is more desperate. Hiring has a more selective connotation imo. Also, you get the chance to contribute which is priceless.
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i would apply, but i dont know if i have the writing skills yet. i guess i will anyway though lol it could be awesome practice for the journalism class im taking next year : )
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 03 2011 08:12 Roffles wrote:
Some of the best posters here on the site started up as writers. Here's your chance to show everyone what you can bring to the table.
If you're looking for something in return for this job, then you shouldn't even bother.
Some of the best writers on the site started up as good posters. Contribute and thou shalt be noticed.
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United States889 Posts
On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million.
Ho-hum how times have changed. I only got 6 mil an MSL season.
On the contributing side to this generally contributing-oriented post, join writers because we're cool and our hazing is so much less humiliating than the graphics team. Seriously it can be a good bit of work but it's rewarding and you get lots of quality help. Your work will be appreciated, and you get a chance to be an important part of the largest e-Sports website in the world.
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I think I'll apply; while english isn't my strongest subject, I do love to share my opinion and vision of a game or a series.
Question though, are the writers who are accepted going to be put into a sort of trial period? If so, what would the trial period judge and how long would it be approximately?
Thanks in advance.
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this website would be so cool if it was like mtg.com (a similar site for magic: the gathering), which has regular high-quality news and strategy articles each day. That website is run by well-paid, employees though, so it could be difficult to get it to that level of quality.
EDIT: the site is now http://www.wizards.com/Magic
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Awesome!!
I actually was wanting to become a writer a while ago, but had no idea how to become one.
I'll see my schedule for this summer and most likely will apply this weekend (finals week now =\). I'm great friends with TrueRedemption and have met several other writers in person (such as motbob even though I'm sure he doesn't remember me when I found him at the Collegiate ESports Series event in Indy haha). I would love to be part of the writer team if I get accepted, these guys are awesome.
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I wish my schedule allowed me to watch the games more promptly
One can't report something several days late--it's not a very good way to cover news.
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I should try and write some stuff later. Since the first season of the IPL ended theres plenty to talk about.
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What qualifies as a "sample"? I want to write a "foreigner special" for Huk. If I have an intro, and outro, and recaps of his two games, does that count as one sample?
Are you looking exclusively for "journalism" style recaps and such? Or just SC2/e-sports in general ("How to convince your dad to watch e-sports with you")?
Are all writings considered Serious Business?
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What is the deadline on this?
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Can I submit my erotic starcraft themed fan fiction?
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Agreed. Hope he applies, because he's great.
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Do successful applicants get an @teamliquid.net email like you waxangel? Cause that'd be the greatest thing ever.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On May 03 2011 14:22 Arrian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million. Ho-hum how times have changed. I only got 6 mil an MSL season. On the contributing side to this generally contributing-oriented post, join writers because we're cool and our hazing is so much less humiliating than the graphics team. Seriously it can be a good bit of work but it's rewarding and you get lots of quality help. Your work will be appreciated, and you get a chance to be an important part of the largest e-Sports website in the world.
Why you no write for MSL no more
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Do we have to watch games live to be qualify for the position? I would love to write some GSL stuff but my time zone makes it impossible to watch the games live.
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not a single "thank you" in the topic ^^
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This sounds really cool, maybe will give it a shot, as I am indeed a truly esports fan and are following many leagues most of them atleast and would love to do this. I think my writing skills isn't up to the same level as my passion for it though. Gl to every one who apply!
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How to I sign up? (I am asking because I am high and in need of directions)
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On May 03 2011 16:49 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 14:22 Arrian wrote:On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million. Ho-hum how times have changed. I only got 6 mil an MSL season. On the contributing side to this generally contributing-oriented post, join writers because we're cool and our hazing is so much less humiliating than the graphics team. Seriously it can be a good bit of work but it's rewarding and you get lots of quality help. Your work will be appreciated, and you get a chance to be an important part of the largest e-Sports website in the world. Why you no write for MSL no more
Hey you I'm gonna write up some super sexy awesome stuff today, time to join you in the pen island.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On May 03 2011 13:55 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 13:18 doffe wrote:
I wish my english would be good enough to take a position like this but truly I think it is not. I have both the interest and the time needed since I work nights in sweden with alot of spare time (and I am more or less always able to do things like this at work). Sadly, I asume that you should be a native english speaker for this to be written well enough for everyone to enjoy. I so admire everyone who take so much of their spare time to contribute to this community for to be completly frank, without those people TL would be so much less and without TL I myself woult most likely not have discovered the beauty of E-sports!
GL in finding writers! Your English is pretty good man! Nice to know people appreciate the writers' work, I prefer to take and give nothing back because I'm a bad person.
Well, I can speak/write and understand "fluently" and my forum posts might be decent but an entire article or a recap of a game would contain sooooo many errors its not even funny. And its such a huge difference in writing something somewhat professional compared to these <500 word posts =)
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Guys, I sent in this submission. Tell me what you think. I've been writing for a while, but I'm rusty. Starting to get my voice back in the latest post: theSC2report
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I had no idea how to write one, but i have always wanted to be able to contribute to this community, so i wrote three differently styled submissions on short notice and sent them in, i hope you guys think they are worthy.
Number one: A battle report of Zenio vs Boxer, i would have added pictures, but you wanted to see my writing.
Number two: An argument for how PvP is a thoroughly underated match up. Basically a hype post.
Number three: The story of how my brother got into starcraft which i wrote from his perspective after he told me about it.
The question i have now is will i get a reply? That is to say, whether or not it is decide that TL would like me to write for them, will i get an message telling me, and how long will the decision process take?
Thanks, Surili.
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I created a TL account just to do this. Let's rock!
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So, before everyone signs up, can someone describe what it's like to work as a writer for TL?
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On May 03 2011 21:38 Fatty_Tuna wrote:
I created a TL account just to do this. Let's rock!
What a good first post! And I write that including no sarcasm and all the heartfelt mushy feelings implied. It's awesome that people sign-up to try and participate... rather than do it to flame or complain or contribute to the cholesterol clogging up the site.
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Spent 5 hours tonight writing my submissions, really enjoyed it.
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On May 03 2011 22:41 deth wrote:
Spent 5 hours tonight writing my submissions, really enjoyed it.
I know exactly how you feel, i really enjoyed writing mine too. I think if they are rejected i might just post them as blogs anyway
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On May 03 2011 22:41 deth wrote:
Spent 5 hours tonight writing my submissions, really enjoyed it.
i spent 6 :[ hope to get picked
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Do you want a specific subject header for the email we send you?
Also, are we allowed to use things we've already written? In particular, I created a thread on Teamliquid which talked ABOUT Esports in general, and I was wondering if I could use that.
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On May 03 2011 07:18 sermokala wrote:
I'll put in my effort with this weeks NASL's
My grammer and spelling is trash but I do think I will enjoy writing a bit if nothing else.
Haha, not trying to sound like an A-hole, but it should be "My grammar and spelling ARE trash..."
But don't let that stop you from submitting a few writing pieces. Just make sure that you go through and edit whatever may sound wrong.
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would love to write, but too bad I got my finals going in a couple of weeks.
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On May 03 2011 13:53 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 08:05 Lotar wrote:On May 03 2011 07:44 Sprungjeezy wrote:
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place. It is clear that several people came to this thread thinking that TL was hiring (in the dictionary sense of the word) writers. Changing the word to "recruiting" would probably save us this argument as well those personal attacks. Alternatively, if the usage of the word is intentional in an effort to grab the attention of more readers, the "unpaid" nature of the position could be specified in the first paragraphe. This way you still get the thread views and you avoid most of the confusion. Note: I will not read this thread any further to avoid getting baited into a pointless argument. I kind of understand your point? I'll change the thread title. But honestly, do you really think that fake fooling people into thinking its a paid position was really our goal? It's completely unintentional, and kind of ridiculous that anyone would think this is a reasonable strategy for getting a good volunteer writer.
To be honest, it was very obvious that Teamliquid's goal in this matter was to fool a skilled writer into applying (expecting recompense), and hope to strongarm him into staying. Pretty despicable.
By the way, I apologize for the edit (if anyone saw it), I was posting pictures on a porn forum I frequent and mistakenly posted them here.
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On May 04 2011 04:32 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 13:53 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 03 2011 08:05 Lotar wrote:On May 03 2011 07:44 Sprungjeezy wrote:
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place. It is clear that several people came to this thread thinking that TL was hiring (in the dictionary sense of the word) writers. Changing the word to "recruiting" would probably save us this argument as well those personal attacks. Alternatively, if the usage of the word is intentional in an effort to grab the attention of more readers, the "unpaid" nature of the position could be specified in the first paragraphe. This way you still get the thread views and you avoid most of the confusion. Note: I will not read this thread any further to avoid getting baited into a pointless argument. I kind of understand your point? I'll change the thread title. But honestly, do you really think that fake fooling people into thinking its a paid position was really our goal? It's completely unintentional, and kind of ridiculous that anyone would think this is a reasonable strategy for getting a good volunteer writer. To be honest, it was very obvious that Teamliquid's goal in this matter was to fool a skilled writer into applying (expecting recompense), and hope to strongarm him into staying. Pretty despicable. By the way, I apologize for the edit (if anyone saw it), I was posting pictures on a porn forum I frequent and mistakenly posted them here.
I hope you're kidding, I think almost everyone knows that the amount of paid staff on TL is tiny.
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hiring for unpaid position?
looking for volunteers who is up at 3:00 am (pst) 4 days a week?
Waxangel, i feel like this is a situation when you get what you pay for.
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Hmm, If I manage to find some SC2 things I feel passionate enough to write about, then I may apply. Until then...
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On May 04 2011 06:22 boyle wrote:
hiring for unpaid position?
looking for volunteers who is up at 3:00 am (pst) 4 days a week?
Waxangel, i feel like this is a situation when you get what you pay for.
Why would you be up at 3:00 AM???
If you write about NASL / TSL / Dreamhack / MLG / ESL etc. or one of the weekly tournaments you will be perfectly able to watch them in your own timezone (depending naturally on what timezone you are in and what league you choose to write for). The only leagues you have to be up at 3:00 AM for are the Korean leagues but in SC2 those are only a (very) small part of what's going on.
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I would love to try this, but have no idea what I could possibly write about. I'm also afraid that what I write will be terrible :\
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If I worked just a little less, (I'm basically on a work / sleep schedule atm) I'd pay to be a TL writer.
The writers here are all untouchable legends in my heart, and will remain so until the day I die.
Gentlemen. You are fucking awesome.
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On May 03 2011 16:49 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 14:22 Arrian wrote:On May 03 2011 07:06 motbob wrote:On May 03 2011 07:05 Crais wrote:On May 03 2011 06:59 Penke wrote:
Is there going to be some kind of salary? 12 Million ESPORTS dollars It's only 10 million. Ho-hum how times have changed. I only got 6 mil an MSL season. On the contributing side to this generally contributing-oriented post, join writers because we're cool and our hazing is so much less humiliating than the graphics team. Seriously it can be a good bit of work but it's rewarding and you get lots of quality help. Your work will be appreciated, and you get a chance to be an important part of the largest e-Sports website in the world. Why you no write for MSL no more
RL. It first started when I was working full time, then I studied abroad and had the time of my life. Now it's other stuff. I really miss covering the BW scene though. Wish I hadn't fallen behind so far...
The other half is because writers got an influx of really good new blood like yourself just as I was phased out. The newer models are so much better at it.
On May 04 2011 04:32 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 13:53 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 03 2011 08:05 Lotar wrote:On May 03 2011 07:44 Sprungjeezy wrote:
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place. It is clear that several people came to this thread thinking that TL was hiring (in the dictionary sense of the word) writers. Changing the word to "recruiting" would probably save us this argument as well those personal attacks. Alternatively, if the usage of the word is intentional in an effort to grab the attention of more readers, the "unpaid" nature of the position could be specified in the first paragraphe. This way you still get the thread views and you avoid most of the confusion. Note: I will not read this thread any further to avoid getting baited into a pointless argument. I kind of understand your point? I'll change the thread title. But honestly, do you really think that fake fooling people into thinking its a paid position was really our goal? It's completely unintentional, and kind of ridiculous that anyone would think this is a reasonable strategy for getting a good volunteer writer. To be honest, it was very obvious that Teamliquid's goal in this matter was to fool a skilled writer into applying (expecting recompense), and hope to strongarm him into staying. Pretty despicable. By the way, I apologize for the edit (if anyone saw it), I was posting pictures on a porn forum I frequent and mistakenly posted them here.
You serious? You've been around for a while, so I'm not sure at all if you're serious or just screwing around. But yeah...no.
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I'll apply It'd be fun to actually be on the staff side of TL. It would also serve the dual purpose of giving me a definitive reason to pay attention (not sleep through) and analyze the games I watch instead of just watching "because I like SC."
Should be putting forward my application in the next few days.
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if we write something having research involved do we need a works cited section..?
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On May 03 2011 08:13 iTzAnglory wrote:
Will our account age and post count influence the acceptance of us?
If you've been with us for a long time, you should know our standards a bit more Post count is irrelevant, post quality maybe.
On May 03 2011 15:31 Ribbon wrote:
What qualifies as a "sample"? I want to write a "foreigner special" for Huk. If I have an intro, and outro, and recaps of his two games, does that count as one sample?
Are you looking exclusively for "journalism" style recaps and such? Or just SC2/e-sports in general ("How to convince your dad to watch e-sports with you")?
Are all writings considered Serious Business?
Yes, that counts as one sample. The pieces have to uphold some sort of journalistic standard, not something you'd write in SC2 General to draw discussion and/or your typical blog. While most are pretty 'srs bznz', writers often inject their POV or writing style to make it less formal and more personal.
On May 03 2011 15:58 Perplex wrote:
What is the deadline on this?
Indefinite, until we find what we're looking for.
On May 03 2011 16:00 Glaven wrote:
Can I submit my erotic starcraft themed fan fiction?
What haven't I seen from Hot_Bid? But don't expect much.
On May 03 2011 16:10 EtherealDeath wrote:
Do successful applicants get an @teamliquid.net email like you waxangel? Cause that'd be the greatest thing ever.
No, only the cool kids get e-mails.
On May 03 2011 17:11 Gara wrote:
Do we have to watch games live to be qualify for the position? I would love to write some GSL stuff but my time zone makes it impossible to watch the games live.
No, technically you don't. We have deadlines and such for each writer to submit their portion of a write-up that are usually due 24-36 hours after the games have been played. If it is a cumulative write-up, then they are due usually later in the week, so make sure you pick the games that are played on earlier days of the competition !
On May 03 2011 21:42 Count9 wrote:
So, before everyone signs up, can someone describe what it's like to work as a writer for TL?
You choose/get assigned to league games that you do a battle report for. That's mostly it for recaps. If there is any piece of creative writing or some sort of written contribution that you find fitting for the site, you can also post it and get feedback from other staff members.
On May 04 2011 10:38 xphantomx wrote:
if we write something having research involved do we need a works cited section..?
Not necessarily. A lot of the write-ups contain facts and such that can be datamined (to various difficulties), so we/the editors mostly hold you accountable for your words. If you repeatedly claim false information, then we'll harass you for your sources. (and punish you)
-From Staff.
edit: I'm not staff, this is copypasta
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I neither endorse nor condemn any of the above answers
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Actually, when you ask a favor, you kind of endorse it.
(I h8 u <3)
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On May 03 2011 09:16 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:Sounds like an awesome gig, and may look good on the resume for those looking to go into some sort of journalism field. I'm a good writer, and would definitely apply, but unfortunately I need to get paid this summer and probably won't have the time
to be honest (though I'm on BW's team) TL's workload is very reasonable so you should defenitely feel free to apply.
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On May 03 2011 16:06 HolyArrow wrote:Agreed. Hope he applies, because he's great.
Not that I have leverage in the discussion, but if this guy hasn't applied someone needs to sneak into his home and assault him with little action figures and bunnies.
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On May 04 2011 04:35 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 04:32 -_- wrote:On May 03 2011 13:53 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 03 2011 08:05 Lotar wrote:On May 03 2011 07:44 Sprungjeezy wrote:
There is no confusion, just a raging debate over something extraordinarily trivial. Do your parents know you're argumentative?
Quoting dictionaries implies that you do not understand the word, thus should not have posted in the first place because you in fact did not understand the word in the first place. It is clear that several people came to this thread thinking that TL was hiring (in the dictionary sense of the word) writers. Changing the word to "recruiting" would probably save us this argument as well those personal attacks. Alternatively, if the usage of the word is intentional in an effort to grab the attention of more readers, the "unpaid" nature of the position could be specified in the first paragraphe. This way you still get the thread views and you avoid most of the confusion. Note: I will not read this thread any further to avoid getting baited into a pointless argument. I kind of understand your point? I'll change the thread title. But honestly, do you really think that fake fooling people into thinking its a paid position was really our goal? It's completely unintentional, and kind of ridiculous that anyone would think this is a reasonable strategy for getting a good volunteer writer. To be honest, it was very obvious that Teamliquid's goal in this matter was to fool a skilled writer into applying (expecting recompense), and hope to strongarm him into staying. Pretty despicable. By the way, I apologize for the edit (if anyone saw it), I was posting pictures on a porn forum I frequent and mistakenly posted them here. I hope you're kidding, I think almost everyone knows that the amount of paid staff on TL is tiny.
He is kidding.
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I've done some journalism before for various sites, like SK Gaming, nihilum and Curse so this intrigues me a bit and I'll definitely send something your way some time this week. I've been wanting to get more involved in the community for a while now, and I feel this is a great way to get my feet in the door in the SC2 community.
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I would still like to know whether we will find out if we have been rejected. It is always nice to be able to rule things out or not.
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I hope the submissions will be posted. Perhaps not all of it but what the writer team consider good enough. It will be interesting to read
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I wish i didn't suck at writing :p
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So, I must ask, if you have a text that you are in fact really proud of and that's actually really good but it's not SC2 related, can I still add it as merely one of the three application texts?
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I wish I had enough game knowledge for this I love writing about SC
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I'd love to write more stuff...but I don't have time to do more. If only I was a jobless bum T.T
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so does the fact that the OSL positions are gone mean that they are filled, or is the search is just postponed untill it starts?
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Submitted my application
Hope I get accepted.
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Just send my application..Fingers crossed
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What if our posting history is riddled with bitterness at the average poster and/or tastosis
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Sent an application, quick question, how long should we expect before we get a response?
Also, bitterness against tastosis? Heresy... =P
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^Exhibit A
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On May 05 2011 15:40 Eknoid4 wrote:^Exhibit A
How was that an average post?
As an aside, I was under the impression TL had a love affair with Tastosis, I haven't seen anyone bitter at them since GSL 1.
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i meant the heresy comment :p
im not here to derail the thread tho so im done postin lol
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Ah I see, well, I've probably been watching far to much GSL to imagine it without tastosis
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Will the hiring period last until at least after the weekend? I'm considering applying, and I just have much more time over the weekend.
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I hope I'm a standout. I can think of no greater honor than to work for TL.
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On May 03 2011 06:51 Barett wrote:
I wish I had the free time to write. Would love to contribute. But alas, having a GF, Working Full time, Playing Tennis, and Starcraft on a daily basis leaves me with barely enough time to sleep lol.
Good luck finding people. I love reading what the TL writers have to say. They are always quality articles, and very well written.
Hey guys, this guy has a gf.
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On May 05 2011 08:59 weeA wrote:
Just send my application..Fingers crossed
Your chances aren't looking too great considering you used the wrong tense of "sent".
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I'm curious about what sort of length they are looking for. I know this is going to be a quality over quantity situation, but still... a poke in the correct direction would be super : )
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On May 05 2011 23:51 turdburgler wrote:
I'm curious about what sort of length they are looking for. I know this is going to be a quality over quantity situation, but still... a poke in the correct direction would be super : )
I think that part of the point of asking for samples is to see what you're accustomed to writing. They didn't set any guidelines because they don't necessarily want people going for a goal, they want people who have the initiative to write good battle reports without a definite direction.
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On May 03 2011 09:50 Cofo wrote:
I'd assume not, but just to be clarify: The evaluation is ONLY on writing, so no bonus points for making your battle reports look nice with screenshots/banners?
I didn't see this answered earlier; can anyone help me out?
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Confucius say: He who goes the extra mile gets the farthest.
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Read it. You english is still really bad and I, personally, would never read a single article written by you. It hurts my head when I can't sit back and read top of the line english in an article. That's the whole purpose.
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In short, we want writers, who will be asked to perform a simple task: Watch a league, tell us what happened, and then tell us why it was interesting.
Ooh, I'm good at the first two things, but since my lack of interest in the game has been rising since I was introduced to LoL, I wouldn't be able to say why things were interesting.
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On May 06 2011 23:15 57 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +In short, we want writers, who will be asked to perform a simple task: Watch a league, tell us what happened, and then tell us why it was interesting. Ooh, I'm good at the first two things, but since my lack of interest in the game has been rising since I was introduced to LoL, I wouldn't be able to say why things were interesting.
Nice! I'm really good at the first thing!
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I submitted my application, I'm excited about the chance to be a part of the TL writing community! I love writing about SC2 and pretty much only play SC2 at this point.
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Very interested to see what is going to be pumped out.
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Hey, just wanted to say that my feelings won't be hurt if I am rejected for the position. However, I would like an email back announcing the decision. I'm not aware of when the staff will make their decisions, so I'm not upset, I just don't want to be left in the dark.
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On May 07 2011 22:06 rapidash88 wrote:
Hey, just wanted to say that my feelings won't be hurt if I am rejected for the position. However, I would like an email back announcing the decision. I'm not aware of when the staff will make their decisions, so I'm not upset, I just don't want to be left in the dark/
This is pretty much my feeling. I appreciate that it's going to take a while to make the decision, and I don't expect a tailored response to everyone who didn't make the cut, but I would appreciate it if we were notified
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T_T
For one of my entries I wrote about Idra being my idol. Then that week he goes and gets himself banned for 90 days.
Curious to see how many people are applying for this position, so going to add a poll.
Poll: Did you apply?Yes (9) 60% Not telling you (4) 27% No (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Did you apply? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Not telling you
Finally how will we know if we got the job or not? Will it be by email, PM, or is the answer going to be left purposely secret for reasons unknown?
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They're terrible.
This isn't a feature article, it's an entire fucking recount. All you do is regurgitate facts and try to make yourself sound fancier than need be. I admit I didn't read the entire clusterfuck that you wrote because I have better things to do with my time but from the snippets I read I didn't think I needed to read more.
I know the point of this thread isn't to bash people but my point stands.
User was warned for this post
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Unfortunate that they're unpaid or I'd take a stab, but good luck to all those that apply. Content is pretty well-done on the site, so let's hope it continues!
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Just sent in my application. Looking forward to seeing the outcome good/bad as I would like to show my analysis skills. I've been on TL for a long time (with breaks, ofcourse) and have seen people come and go so it will be interesting as to who shall become staff with the new era of Starcraft II that is just arriving.
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Any news as of who has been chosen yet?
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I am a little confused with my application, I've gotten a reply from you but it regards to Daniel Lee, but not to my application. I just wanted to know if its considered at all, cause judging from the reply and what I assumed to be the tone, it didn't seem like good news to me.
:S
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At least you got a reply
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Waxangel can we at least have some sort of response? The people who have applied for this position aren't just objects accessed through only the internet. We're not mere resumes sent to you. We're dedicated to this website, and in at least my case(if not others), we're checking our emails every single day, waiting for a reply.
It's been two weeks since you posted this. It's been a week since anything truly noteworthy has developed. The people who take interest in this job have already applied. The TSL has concluded in a spectacular fashion, and I simply ask one thing: an update on this thread, preferably including a rough estimate of when we can expect to see our results.
I think I speak for everyone when I request that, and even though I know you have reasons which lie hidden from my eyes, I beg of you to shine a beam of light on our dark, foggy home.
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On May 17 2011 12:20 Pandain wrote:
Waxangel can we at least have some sort of response? The people who have applied for this position aren't just objects accessed through only the internet. We're not mere resumes sent to you. We're dedicated to this website, and in at least my case(if not others), we're checking our emails every single day, waiting for areply.
It's been two weeks since you posted this. It's been a week since anything truly noteworthy has developed. The people who take interest in this job have already applied. The TSL has concluded in a spectacular fashion, and I simply ask one thing: an update on this thread, preferably including a rough estimate of when we can expect to see our results.
I think I speak for everyone when I request that, and even though I know you have reasons which lie hidden from my eyes, I beg of you to shine a beam of light on our dark, foggy home.
well said.
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On May 17 2011 12:20 Pandain wrote:
Waxangel can we at least have some sort of response? The people who have applied for this position aren't just objects accessed through only the internet. We're not mere resumes sent to you. We're dedicated to this website, and in at least my case(if not others), we're checking our emails every single day, waiting for a reply.
It's been two weeks since you posted this. It's been a week since anything truly noteworthy has developed. The people who take interest in this job have already applied. The TSL has concluded in a spectacular fashion, and I simply ask one thing: an update on this thread, preferably including a rough estimate of when we can expect to see our results.
I think I speak for everyone when I request that, and even though I know you have reasons which lie hidden from my eyes, I beg of you to shine a beam of light on our dark, foggy home.
Hear Hear! I will I could have put it that way
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Although I am merely echoing a sentiment that has been oft expressed, I think I speak for everyone who applied when I say that any sort of notice as to whether you even received the application(s) we have sent or not would be lovely. I understand if you are busy, and I don't mean to be pushy, I just really want to be a writer for this site. I check my e-mail as often as I can looking for a reply. Please, for the sake of my sanity, tell me whether I'm good enough or not.
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If I werent busy coding right now....
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So... it's been brought up before but is there any official word on if the new writers have been announced? Have the applications been read through?
I would just like some sort of status update, please.
Thanks
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custom writers needed bump
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Can we get an update on this? People are saying that they have had no replies, and that they don't even know whether their application was received. Are there still jobs available? Is applying worth it now? What is going!?!?!
Sorry, it's just this post really interests me. Thanks for any responses.
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