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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:07:02
July 19 2010 02:06 GMT
#21
are we not having a general update? i'm really curious about what happened here...
and yes, i got an idea, but confirmation? what happens now?
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Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:14:15
July 19 2010 02:13 GMT
#22
On July 19 2010 10:55 Chill wrote:
Can we get an update on what really happened here? Basically 2 guys ditched on LAN fees, 3 guys ditched on dinner and left someone (possibly justifiably) stranded? What about stealing alcohol? Downloading porn?


I don't think there's any way to justify stranding someone like that, barring an emergency that required them to drive back right that second. Not giving gas money or "being a dick" isn't grounds for being left 400 miles from home.

The few times I've traveled out of state to share hotel rooms for gaming events with people I've met online, I've had people wait to give me money for their half of the hotel room until last second because they don't' know how to bring up the subject of money when everyone is too busy having fun. Now, if Dejavu (the one left behind) had simply said "fuck you guys I'm not giving you gas money" it might be up for debate, but if he simply didn't get around to it or nobody thought to bring it up during the heat of the tournament or after-party, there's no excuse.

Sadly we'll have to wait another 13 hours to hear from Dejavu on that subject, which is only a testament to how there's no excuse for nnilf and his friends, in my opinion.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
July 19 2010 02:15 GMT
#23
I feel terrible for Dejavu, such dedication to come out so far and to only get such crap in return. If you're giving someone a ride from 400 miles away, they're putting trust in you that you'll send them back. Even if they are a huge asshole, there is the implicit obligation that you have to send them back. I don't see any reasonable circumstances where it is at all acceptable to ditch someone like that, and I am literally in shock to hear that someone actually pulled such a move.
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:21:35
July 19 2010 02:16 GMT
#24
On July 19 2010 11:03 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 11:00 XsebT wrote:
Yeah, I've really tryed to make sense of all this, but every claim seem like one person's word against another's.

I disagree it seems pretty clear but I'm trying to get exact details.

I still find the situation unclear because the sources of the current details are questionable. However, I agree that we need exact and objective details.
+ Show Spoiler +
Btw, this was just a clarification of my point.

That might be a bit too much to ask for in this situation though...
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:23:02
July 19 2010 02:19 GMT
#25
I didn't go to the LAN, I've gone every week to meet up in the area with the TL people since May. And I can say that this will further my plans to never go to an event that those guys go to lol, what a disgrace. Going around talking like you're the shit, saying you'll beat up everyone from TL when you see them, AFTER you get home from a LAN where you met 20 people from TL, yeah thats really cute lol. Basically scamming out like 100+ dollars between a couple people by not paying for...well....anything.

What a great way to uphold the name of your clan/team/sponsors. el oh fucking el

Not sure if you could define e-thug any more, I wasn't sure if people like this existed in the SC community, seems more like the HoN community.
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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:51:02
July 19 2010 02:24 GMT
#26
On July 19 2010 10:44 KamuL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 09:32 TAD[nnilf] wrote:
On July 19 2010 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
On July 19 2010 03:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Ok So TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog and his buddy can go fuck themselves

They ditched dejavu at my house, stole some booze, trashed my computer.
Deja now has to take a bus back to his place, and spend $100 on the ticket just to get home now. The bus takes 15 hours instead of a 6 hour drive.
2 of them ditched the lan center and did not pay, suppy had to pay for them. (i did manage to get them to pay suppy back what he paid, still ditching with out paying so bm)




Sup?

+sc2gg where loudog admitted him and semih ditched lan on purpose to dodge paying

http://sc2gg.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12250&st=20&start=20


you'll get over it.

edit- nvm, actually you prolly won't rofl.


he raped the first two games playing completely standard and even using pure wraiths.
then he went protoss, forgot storm, then a glitch occured and let zerglings hit a marine inside the minerals, and lastly, he cancled rax opting for a 14cc thinking he saw 12hatch, but really it was a 12pool, and he only had 1 marine inside the bunker when 10lings came.

series of unfortunate events. he lasted extremely long in all games considering such disadvantages.


he didnt rape the first game at all, suppy gg'ed when he first made a mistake because he was freaked out and is an impressionable kid
also man, mining out the back with a proxy fac on desti is not standard, neither is 2port wraith,

second game suppy didnt know how to counter pure wraith and retardedly listened to storr telling him to go 4 hat before pool so he got stomped.

third game i dont think he could win even if he had storm...the templar were out too late to decide the gamewinning battle iirc

next game...a glitch? if you looked at the rep you would see that the barracks was landed incorrectly for the cheese dude...if it was 1 hex to the left it would have been tight but it wasnt, zerglings could get into the space easily. and after that he went 2 port again and suppy scouted it by saccing an ovie aeahnd then proceeded to play really really well against it, as he would have done before if he had taken the other game seriously.

last game LS built an ebay on suppy's natural >< and then didnt complete and scouted main with the scv and could have seen 12pool gas, which was suppy's build. also, what happened with the bunker was totally irrelevant to the outcome of the game besides mindgames, the lings did no damage but killing the marines inside the bunker and maybe one on the ramp (tho im pretty sure there were more in bunker). LS lost because he only had one rax for WAY too long and didnt put up a reasonably solid frontal defense on desti, leaving the far side of his nat completely open for lurker runbys and then allowing lurkers to get to his main minerals in ~ the 3rd and 4th drops. he lost about 40scvs, counted kills last night when we watched the rep. if he hadnt taken those hits and actually build decent number of marines he could have come out and won bc suppy was below 80 supply for 95% of the game and won with 84 iirc.

the idea that LS lost because of unfortunate disadvantages shows no respect to suppy.
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Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
July 19 2010 02:30 GMT
#27
On July 19 2010 11:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
I feel terrible for Dejavu, such dedication to come out so far and to only get such crap in return. If you're giving someone a ride from 400 miles away, they're putting trust in you that you'll send them back. Even if they are a huge asshole, there is the implicit obligation that you have to send them back. I don't see any reasonable circumstances where it is at all acceptable to ditch someone like that, and I am literally in shock to hear that someone actually pulled such a move.


Agreed. Sure, the money for the LAN center and Buffet, as well as whatever happened at Storrs house (I left the LAN early so I wasn't there) is important, but leaving someone behind is disgracful.

Yes, nnilf, I'm sure he will "get over it" eventually, but you explicitly told everyone to plan ahead in regards to scheduling their trip, to get an extra day off work if they needed it or whatever.

I don't claim to know anything regarding Dejavu's personal life, but he was under the assumption that he would be home by now, when in fact he only just left 2 hours ago. Whatever obligations or plans he had are ruined, and depending on how far his house is from his [i'm assuming bus stop], you're also inconveniencing whoever it is that has to unexpectedly pick him up from there and drive him home, or making him pay for a taxi or whatever.

As I said, I don't pretend to understand the situation he's' been put in, but it's very very serious, and expensive.
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hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
July 19 2010 02:35 GMT
#28
its really disrespectful of any one to not pay. last time i got stuck paying an extra $30 for dinner (may have been the resturaunts fault) but still i read about stealing booze and ditching people thats not right but i guess thats what happens when a bunch of complete strangers get together. I can't remember everyones tl id to faces but if its true that people didn't pay and shit shame on them. Its too bad a bunch of people can't get together to enjoy a common interest with others that enjoy the same thing and we gotta worry about these sort of things.

I wanted to thank mack for putting this whole this together as well as luckyfool for his leadership and storr for being so kind as to invite a bunch of strangers back to his house. And a big congrats to Superior wolf for winning and setting up the first ever DC lan and inspiring everyone to get together and play a game that we all enjoy.
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TAD[nnilf]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States191 Posts
July 19 2010 02:38 GMT
#29
On July 19 2010 11:35 HatchetWound wrote:
its really disrespectful of any one to not pay. last time i got stuck paying an extra $30 for dinner (may have been the resturaunts fault) but still i read about stealing booze and ditching people thats not right but i guess thats what happens when a bunch of complete strangers get together. I can't remember everyones tl id to faces but if its true that people didn't pay and shit shame on them. Its too bad a bunch of people can't get together to enjoy a common interest with others that enjoy the same thing and we gotta worry about these sort of things.

I wanted to thank mack for putting this whole this together as well as luckyfool for his leadership and storr for being so kind as to invite a bunch of strangers back to his house. And a big congrats to Superior wolf for winning and setting up the first ever DC lan and inspiring everyone to get together and play a game that we all enjoy.


you're welcome. glad you had fun bro.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:44:10
July 19 2010 02:43 GMT
#30
LastShadow is banned from this website for a reason. Kamul, please don't use your account as an outlet to argue for someone, even if you are his friend or fan. That's basically circumventing his ban.

Thanks.
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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
July 19 2010 02:55 GMT
#31
On July 19 2010 11:06 seRapH wrote:
are we not having a general update? i'm really curious about what happened here...
and yes, i got an idea, but confirmation? what happens now?


yeah id also like to hear the specifics, thought most of the offenses were pretty trivial at first but sc2gg posts kinda make them look like clowns ><
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sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
July 19 2010 03:04 GMT
#32
all i have to say is this is pretty sad. Some people just have no respect for other people.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 03:14:49
July 19 2010 03:11 GMT
#33
It is definitely true that a major part of my win was luck - I barely made it out alive from the group stages and was fortunate enough to get on the side of the bracket that did not have Nick (Lastshadow) or LRM)Semih. Next, Rob getting knocked out by sLiMpower helped me, since I did lose to Rob in the group stages. And finally in the finals, I did have some very fortunate things happen in my favor, such as the ling hitting the marine thing. So no, my win was not completely luck, but a major part of my performance was definitely because of good fortune that day. Although in the last game especially there was also the factor of adrenaline, I played 50-60 apm faster than I normally play in that game, and as I look back on the replay I see a lot of mistakes I made (I was seriously EXTREMELY low economy somewhat all-in-ish the entire game, which is why I basically never passed 80 supply. I don't know why I forgot to make more drones or something o.o) but I was still playing faster than normal which helped my game. It was also fortunate too that Nick hasn't played in a while and didn't have his top mechanics, and that he trained mainly TvP to beat Semih.

If anyone cares to see the rep of the 5th game, it's here http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=36944 so we can clear up some of the things about that game. It was a 12 pool gas into two hatchery mutalisks, with zergling speed first. I wished I saved the other reps from that day, I think the games I played against everyone were at least fairly entertaining if not extremely intense too (the game on Andromeda vs Slimpower was pretty nice). Definitely regret not saving them and uploading them

Everyone knows I was 2v2 partner with lastshadow last year about this same time, so that's why I refer to him as Nick and whatever since we know each other a bit. He definitely has a very dirty past which is generally the big thing that people think about when they hear his name, but I'm hoping that people at the LAN noticed he wasn't at all like the four people in question in this thread (oh god, I still can't even believe the money thing was on purpose -_-;
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 19 2010 03:33 GMT
#34
http://www.zshare.net/audio/78465064ba97100e/

small vent convo with loudog

dad chips in saying they are way to bm

convo a sc2gg guy had with Loudog

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7252/loudog.png


apprently im the biggest fag on the face of the planet for hosting a proleague viewing party for sets 1 and 2, cooking food for them, providing drinks, providing a roof over their heads


As for the booze (capt morgan) it was unopened late on saturday night, (im sure slimpower remembers me bringing it down, and it sat next to his giant fucken bottle of bourbon ) So my "friends that took it" weren't in the house, wrong day (if someone had drank it there would have been an empty bottle too...)

As for my best quote "you can sleep outside"

apparently when saying this and having a huge grin on your face means im dead serious lol
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mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
July 19 2010 03:37 GMT
#35
On July 19 2010 11:38 TAD[nnilf] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 11:35 HatchetWound wrote:
its really disrespectful of any one to not pay. last time i got stuck paying an extra $30 for dinner (may have been the resturaunts fault) but still i read about stealing booze and ditching people thats not right but i guess thats what happens when a bunch of complete strangers get together. I can't remember everyones tl id to faces but if its true that people didn't pay and shit shame on them. Its too bad a bunch of people can't get together to enjoy a common interest with others that enjoy the same thing and we gotta worry about these sort of things.

I wanted to thank mack for putting this whole this together as well as luckyfool for his leadership and storr for being so kind as to invite a bunch of strangers back to his house. And a big congrats to Superior wolf for winning and setting up the first ever DC lan and inspiring everyone to get together and play a game that we all enjoy.


you're welcome. glad you had fun bro.


That's really the kind of commentary that shows what kind of person you are, I don't know who you think you are but this kind of attitude is just totally unpleasant for everyone.

I'm shocked that TL didnt take any action against you yet, no one deserves to be talked like that after saying what they really think.
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Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
July 19 2010 03:44 GMT
#36
On July 19 2010 12:37 mark05 wrote:I'm shocked that TL didnt take any action against you yet, no one deserves to be talked like that after saying what they really think.


I saw his name on the automated banlist thread a few hours ago, but it might have been undone pending investigation. Not sure.
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Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
July 19 2010 03:47 GMT
#37
On July 19 2010 12:37 mark05 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 11:38 TAD[nnilf] wrote:
On July 19 2010 11:35 HatchetWound wrote:
its really disrespectful of any one to not pay. last time i got stuck paying an extra $30 for dinner (may have been the resturaunts fault) but still i read about stealing booze and ditching people thats not right but i guess thats what happens when a bunch of complete strangers get together. I can't remember everyones tl id to faces but if its true that people didn't pay and shit shame on them. Its too bad a bunch of people can't get together to enjoy a common interest with others that enjoy the same thing and we gotta worry about these sort of things.

I wanted to thank mack for putting this whole this together as well as luckyfool for his leadership and storr for being so kind as to invite a bunch of strangers back to his house. And a big congrats to Superior wolf for winning and setting up the first ever DC lan and inspiring everyone to get together and play a game that we all enjoy.


you're welcome. glad you had fun bro.


That's really the kind of commentary that shows what kind of person you are, I don't know who you think you are but this kind of attitude is just totally unpleasant for everyone.

I'm shocked that TL didnt take any action against you yet, no one deserves to be talked like that after saying what they really think.


Not entirely shocking, judging him from his transcripts and general responses just points to clan x17 way of thinking. It's sad that this "kid" as he is so fond of using is given any credit whatsoever to run anything.
Radivel-X17
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada144 Posts
July 19 2010 04:08 GMT
#38
On SC2GG, Storr and especially Deja have been both generally nice and involved/good to have around for pretty well ever since they've been there. I definitely feel bad for Deja.

This issue seems ridiculous, and I really feel bad for the two of them. To me, it seems like the people who've done things wrong are brushing off their petty comments and the impression that it doesn't matter if you're rude and a jerk to someone offline. That isn't the case, you're not above common decency, and yeah, they're all going to get removed from SC2GG as well.

The whole thing is awful, and these guys should just man up.

I just realized that my name still has X17 on it, I should get that changed. :/
I used to run SC2GG, if you remember that. Come to NHFFA discord. It's where a bunch of old players who all suck at BW hang out, as well as people who like to play FFAs for some reason. https://discord.com/invite/kWNQvnd
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