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Most Krobes i saw (or played myself) would have won/lost the game with BS or with Euls/Drums first... It's more about your team protecting your ass in teamfights/early pushes for the T1 towers than anything else (which should happen before you have Euls if you didn't skip phase and at this point Arcs are imho just better, if you don't allready have some on your supports... Which is not that likely this early in the game).
I myself just think that Arcs/Voidstone(-> Pointbooster) start feels better in the early game than most other builds. Once completed I like Euls/Drums better.
Anyway... My point actually just was: Bloodstone on Death Prophet is no reason to QQ. 9 out of 10 times there will be various other reasons to qq in your game .
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On February 06 2014 01:27 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 01:24 govie wrote: Well if you go manaboots there is nothing wrong with a bloodstone late. It is if you're a support. You're going to need a Ghost Scepter/Force Staff/ Scythe/Blink/whatever way more than what Bloodstone gives you. and no, the argument of "you revive faster" is not a good one. Your goal as a support is to not die, not feed faster.
Sound logical, well i almost never build one anyway. Most of the time you simply wont have the farm. Last month merlini spoke about the soulbooster being undervalued for only 3300 gold and i agree with that because its a mini bloodstone for almost 2k gold less. Whats your opinion about that item after manaboot+forcestaff?
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Just when I thought I was done sucking, I go 1-9 as Batrider.
It's a terrible feeling knowing that you're the main reason your team lost. On the bright side, it probably means I'm slowly moving up in MMR.
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On February 06 2014 02:45 B1nary wrote: Just when I thought I was done sucking, I go 1-9 as Batrider.
It's a terrible feeling knowing that you're the main reason your team lost. On the bright side, it probably means I'm slowly moving up in MMR.
I often think that intitators in pubs rely a lot on the team to actually follow up an initiation, i really dislike playing puck, enigma, batrider and heros like that in pubs because of that.
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On February 06 2014 02:35 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 01:27 hooahah wrote:On February 06 2014 01:24 govie wrote: Well if you go manaboots there is nothing wrong with a bloodstone late. It is if you're a support. You're going to need a Ghost Scepter/Force Staff/ Scythe/Blink/whatever way more than what Bloodstone gives you. and no, the argument of "you revive faster" is not a good one. Your goal as a support is to not die, not feed faster. Sound logical, well i almost never build one anyway. Most of the time you simply wont have the farm. Last month merlini spoke about the soulbooster being undervalued for only 3300 gold and i agree with that because its a mini bloodstone for almost 2k gold less. Whats your opinion about that item after manaboot+forcestaff?
I'm not quite the dota authority (Yango is), but as a support I'm usually too poor to spend 3300 gold on what is essentially 450 HP, and I don't have any spare item space between boots, TP, wards + 2 items + detection. Note that a simple Bracer gives you 114 HP if you're in dire need of HP.
Basically, as a support it comes down to two things: are you winning? if so, it doesn't matter what you're gonna buy because you're already winning. Are you losing? ok, what item can you get that will prevent that/prevent dying. Most of the time, 450 HP isn't what's gonna save you from dying, Ghost/Force/Blink is.
and for the question Hex is usually better for pretty much the same cost.
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2 open raxes for 30min+, can the nature prophet get one? nope, doesnt know how to play at all. i had to do it with pugna waltzing arcoss the entire map, sigh.
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playing solo +4 vs 5 sucks so much
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On February 06 2014 03:19 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 02:45 B1nary wrote: Just when I thought I was done sucking, I go 1-9 as Batrider.
It's a terrible feeling knowing that you're the main reason your team lost. On the bright side, it probably means I'm slowly moving up in MMR. I often think that intitators in pubs rely a lot on the team to actually follow up an initiation, i really dislike playing puck, enigma, batrider and heros like that in pubs because of that.
Have to agree with this feeling. I'm pretty sure my Batrider is AWFUL but on the other hand I honestly feel my Puck is alright...but my winrate on Puck is diabolically bad. :-\
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On February 06 2014 06:06 zezamer wrote: playing solo +4 vs 5 sucks so much First picking Terrorblade and then have the team pick Drow, Invoker, Viper and Lifestealer sucks quite a lot as well. I mean, I don't mind playing support if everyone in the damn team wants to play carry, but it would be nice if someone else could take that if I for once first pick. Laning TB top with an exort invoker leads to feeding and and a terrible game. There's just nothing fun about being insta gibbed by an Ursa with TERRIBLE items, knowing that their whole team is at least as bad as I am, yet being completely rofl stomped.
Oh well, was a lost game right at the picks, no use being annoyed.
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3 out of 4 Mythical New Year Chests... Auspicious Juggernaut Announcer.
PLOT TWIST!
I already had Juggernaut Announcer set as my default.
mfw
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I am flamed for not joining fights but take the towers. Even if you win, people find some fucking things to flame and call you low tier. Does it a deserved report?
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I just spent 20min throwing firecrackers at the Year Beast and got a "Sever Overload" message. Apparently my shit will be delivered eventually.... yeah we'll see
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On February 06 2014 06:43 Tobberoth wrote:First picking Terrorblade and then have the team pick Drow, Invoker, Viper and Lifestealer sucks quite a lot as well. I mean, I don't mind playing support if everyone in the damn team wants to play carry, but it would be nice if someone else could take that if I for once first pick. Laning TB top with an exort invoker leads to feeding and and a terrible game. There's just nothing fun about being insta gibbed by an Ursa with TERRIBLE items, knowing that their whole team is at least as bad as I am, yet being completely rofl stomped. Oh well, was a lost game right at the picks, no use being annoyed. Story of my life. I am primarily a support player and play it in 90/100 of my games, no exaggeration. On some occasions I feel like carrying, and I say so on the player loading screen, on the hero select screen and place the icon of the carry I want to play on the safelane. But the I still get pudge/naix/LC/Void picks. Like what the fuck. I really hate it when this happens.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT, HOW RETARDED CAN PEOPLE BE.
Was trying to carry some really fucking shitty guys, one guy was jungling with Necro and ended up feeding 4-18. While I am almost winning the game for them by splitpushing my clockwerk player gets a really fucking brilliant idea, he literally said "we need to fight outside base"
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If they just fucked deffed the base I could have split pushed 2 raxes, no one in the enemy team had tps. But no this jackass hooked right in to 5 ppl outside the base and the rest of my retards in the team thought his idea was so good so they followed him up, they got 2x ravaged and all of them wiped. Holy fucking shit how bad can player fucking be.
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Please tell me if I am unreasonable here: I'm shaman, buyng wards to ward enemy jungle cause they have a farming naix. With my arcane's I've got 340 movement speed. Neither the nyx assassin or nightstalker want to got plant the wards, but insist that I do it. Inevitably the naix kills me twice, after which I refuse to plant the wards. This aparently deserves 20 minutes of flaming, even though we won the match. If you have invis \ insane movement speed, why donyou want to plant the wards?????
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Ok so this Tiny jungles a dagon (sigh), then decides to afk for 10 minutes and gets an abandon, then suddenly he starts playing again and feeds like ten kills.
COME ON, lol 
If you're going to abandon at least disconnect so we get your gold, and don't come back to feed their team more, you're actually less of a liability after afking for ten minutes if you just disconnect.
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On February 06 2014 10:17 MVTaylor wrote: 3 out of 4 Mythical New Year Chests... Auspicious Juggernaut Announcer.
PLOT TWIST!
I already had Juggernaut Announcer set as my default.
mfw I know right! Hate those glorified mythicals that are no different than their regular counterpart. Wish I had spent the tokens on 12x cheapo baskets instead.
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Man crystal maiden gets wrecked if your team has a bad start in solo q, don't think I'll be picking her again
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why do i have to lose just as many points as the guy who ragequits after 3mins because he got ganked? i mean the game is basically over at that point but you still lose 25 points just because someone acts like an ass...
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On February 06 2014 23:04 rob.au wrote: Man crystal maiden gets wrecked if your team has a bad start in solo q, don't think I'll be picking her again Yeah, she quickly gets very frustrating to play if your team has a weak start, and especially if your opponents have quick gankers who target squishies, like storm spirit, legion commander, bounty hunter, riki and so on. As soon as they get even a little bit ahead, they start to oneshot you, and you're WAY too slow to get away.
Such a fun support to play with friends though.
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