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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 19 2014 15:32 GMT
#18321
currently in a game with the worst team ever, i don't even know how it is possible to die 6 times to pudge as sf in mid.
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 16:30:18
January 19 2014 16:29 GMT
#18322
Flawed thing about MM is how a high leveled player can stack with two bad friends and then all three of them end up in the mid-tier bracket. I guess it's technically "balanced" but I find that it never makes for good games when there's a large skill discrepancy. Artificially setting up half the people to be fed and half the people to be fed on.

Also, my team barely has a chicken after last pick bounty picks one up. Other team does level one rosh and proceeds to wreck all our towers by 15 minutes with their pushing lineup.

I really wish Volvo would bring back SoloQ...Also add single draft and random draft (aka the best pub modes) to "ranked" mode.
I feel like soloQ with these two modes is the best dota you can have when you're playing by yourself (which is what I do majority of the time) Don't even really care about the longer wait times...just tab out and browse TL/reddit for a few mins
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 19 2014 16:32 GMT
#18323
On January 19 2014 23:56 idonthinksobro wrote:
was doing really well yesterday getting 150mmr, today played 3 games. One someone abandons in the middle of the game and then 2 games without support - what is this shit? (i always pick first)


firstpickers should allways pick a support.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 19 2014 16:45 GMT
#18324
On January 20 2014 00:32 idonthinksobro wrote:
currently in a game with the worst team ever, i don't even know how it is possible to die 6 times to pudge as sf in mid.

you get hooked
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 17:31:32
January 19 2014 17:31 GMT
#18325
lol wrong thread
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
January 19 2014 18:05 GMT
#18326
On January 20 2014 01:45 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 00:32 idonthinksobro wrote:
currently in a game with the worst team ever, i don't even know how it is possible to die 6 times to pudge as sf in mid.

you get hooked

I have done this.

You have no damage and pudge just walks towards you and you panic and die.
fishsandwichpatrol
Profile Joined January 2014
United States2 Posts
January 19 2014 18:33 GMT
#18327
I don't claim to be a master of the meta, so I don't tend to harp on people too much for going certain items/team comps unless they're completely stupid, but there is one thing that really aggravates me.

I rarely solo queue, usually playing with a 2-5 stack. Whenever I play with friends I tell the "pubs" to pick whoever they want and we'll fill in the gaps. You'd think this would be a solo player's dream, you can pick WHOEVER YOU WANT and your team will pick around you! Wow! But pretty much every time I do this, the other players just don't say anything in chat or pick or anything, so eventually the timer is about to count down and so my friends and I just go ahead and pick. Then, of course, after we have already made our picks, do the other players pick. And by god, it seems like most of the time they pick the most idiotic picks imaginable. Like picking a safelane farming carry when we already have one when we need a support (this is the most common). But it seems like whatever hero is the worst possible pick given our setup, they pick it. That just infuriates me. If you want to make a dumb bloodseeker pick then PICK WHEN WE TELL YOU TO!

It's worse when they rest their pick on a certain hero, say windrunner, so I think "ok this guy obviously wants the windrunner so we'll give him the offlane solo" and pick for that and then he picks last, and it turns out he doesn't pick windrunner at all but something stupid that doesn't work with our lanes or general team idea at all.

That's the only thing that makes me really mad at this game (besides obviously the complete assholes). I can deal with bad teammates or people who don't know the game perfectly but this is just, ugh
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
January 19 2014 18:59 GMT
#18328
fuck people who jungle as lifestealer / lone druid, fucking disgusting

do they fucking expect the team to win 4v5?
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
January 19 2014 19:35 GMT
#18329
On January 20 2014 03:33 fishsandwichpatrol wrote:
I don't claim to be a master of the meta, so I don't tend to harp on people too much for going certain items/team comps unless they're completely stupid, but there is one thing that really aggravates me.

I rarely solo queue, usually playing with a 2-5 stack. Whenever I play with friends I tell the "pubs" to pick whoever they want and we'll fill in the gaps. You'd think this would be a solo player's dream, you can pick WHOEVER YOU WANT and your team will pick around you! Wow! But pretty much every time I do this, the other players just don't say anything in chat or pick or anything, so eventually the timer is about to count down and so my friends and I just go ahead and pick. Then, of course, after we have already made our picks, do the other players pick. And by god, it seems like most of the time they pick the most idiotic picks imaginable. Like picking a safelane farming carry when we already have one when we need a support (this is the most common). But it seems like whatever hero is the worst possible pick given our setup, they pick it. That just infuriates me. If you want to make a dumb bloodseeker pick then PICK WHEN WE TELL YOU TO!

It's worse when they rest their pick on a certain hero, say windrunner, so I think "ok this guy obviously wants the windrunner so we'll give him the offlane solo" and pick for that and then he picks last, and it turns out he doesn't pick windrunner at all but something stupid that doesn't work with our lanes or general team idea at all.

That's the only thing that makes me really mad at this game (besides obviously the complete assholes). I can deal with bad teammates or people who don't know the game perfectly but this is just, ugh


Ranked Captain's mode has been good to me in terms of this. Communication is a lot better and with a stack you can just take captain and pick whatever you want for them. People are a lot more willing to cooperate in terms of laning and picks usually.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
January 19 2014 20:45 GMT
#18330
Randomed morph, went 8-0. Mid OD feeds invoker and others and we lost. How can i win, when some others throw their lanes, feed others and lost favorable match ups. I mean, I couldn't outplay all my games. I couldn't compensate 2 feeder lanes with my 1 lane.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 19 2014 21:00 GMT
#18331
So it seems that every time I play stacking with friends in the last month, the game ends up terrible, yet every time I solo queue, it's manageable (regardless of final outcome). I swear my regular stack has like 20% winrate overall. :/
Kemy
Profile Joined November 2010
105 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 21:20:01
January 19 2014 21:19 GMT
#18332
I hate ppl who jungle...

Had a LC in my game who was sitting in the jungle for 15 minutes and came out with a shadowblade, a stout shield and a culling blade (no boots and he went shadow amulett first) and complained that we lost the game 4vs5 in the meantime ... -.-
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
January 19 2014 21:20 GMT
#18333
On January 20 2014 03:59 Nomzter wrote:
fuck people who jungle as lifestealer / lone druid, fucking disgusting

do they fucking expect the team to win 4v5?


What would you have them do?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 21:58:39
January 19 2014 21:24 GMT
#18334
My losing streak begins again

3rd one came. I bought 2 sets of wards as mid. Team thinks not buying wards against pudge and feed more is a good idea.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
January 19 2014 21:28 GMT
#18335
After a bunch of nice games in the last 2 weeks now im on a 5 games losing streak , 3 of those are because an ally leaves at some point of the game GG
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
January 19 2014 21:59 GMT
#18336
So 2 cancerous games in a row now. Last game hispanic earth spirit gives up 10 minutes into the game and just starts flaming and feeding couriers. The worst part is that the game could have been won by us (we almost managed to 4v5 it despite them having a completely ridiculous gold advantage by the courier feed)

Game before that 2 hispanics that start to flame me after I don't come bottom to "gank." I was death prophet and I was having a great game too...laning went very well against viper, somehow ended up getting an ultrakill early on. This disruptor and bounty combo just feed though, all the while flaming me, saying things that made very little sense. Disruptor kept on saying "mid or feed" in all chat over and over again and other things in broken english.

I mute everyone but still...when you play with cancerous people like that, can't help but get discouraged at this game.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
January 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#18337
On January 20 2014 06:20 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 03:59 Nomzter wrote:
fuck people who jungle as lifestealer / lone druid, fucking disgusting

do they fucking expect the team to win 4v5?


What would you have them do?

Pick a hero that excels at jungling rather than a hero that is much better in lane, I imagine.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 19 2014 23:13 GMT
#18338
On January 20 2014 06:20 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 03:59 Nomzter wrote:
fuck people who jungle as lifestealer / lone druid, fucking disgusting

do they fucking expect the team to win 4v5?


What would you have them do?


go to a fucking lane? most heros that are often junglers in pubs (furion, lone druid, lifestealer, doom, Ursa etc.) get more farm in a lane and are generally more helpful for the team if they farm a lane. A dedicated jungler is only good if the team survives long enough so the extra gold and exp can kick in but if you can win/defend 4v5 for 15-20 minutes you probably would have stomped a proper 5v5 anyways.
The only heros that should jungle from the start are chen and enchantress (sometimes other supports like maiden or veno) but not full time and they are not sitting in the jungle forever they are supposed to gank before the 5 minute mark.
Some heros that farm really fast in the jungle like enigma or lycan are never played in pro games because they take too long to be useful.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 19 2014 23:20 GMT
#18339
On January 20 2014 08:13 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 06:20 danl9rm wrote:
On January 20 2014 03:59 Nomzter wrote:
fuck people who jungle as lifestealer / lone druid, fucking disgusting

do they fucking expect the team to win 4v5?


What would you have them do?


go to a fucking lane? most heros that are often junglers in pubs (furion, lone druid, lifestealer, doom, Ursa etc.) get more farm in a lane and are generally more helpful for the team if they farm a lane. A dedicated jungler is only good if the team survives long enough so the extra gold and exp can kick in but if you can win/defend 4v5 for 15-20 minutes you probably would have stomped a proper 5v5 anyways.
The only heros that should jungle from the start are chen and enchantress (sometimes other supports like maiden or veno) but not full time and they are not sitting in the jungle forever they are supposed to gank before the 5 minute mark.
Some heros that farm really fast in the jungle like enigma or lycan are never played in pro games because they take too long to be useful.

Why would anyone stay in jungle for 20 minutes?
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 19 2014 23:23 GMT
#18340
On January 20 2014 08:20 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 08:13 idonthinksobro wrote:
On January 20 2014 06:20 danl9rm wrote:
On January 20 2014 03:59 Nomzter wrote:
fuck people who jungle as lifestealer / lone druid, fucking disgusting

do they fucking expect the team to win 4v5?


What would you have them do?


go to a fucking lane? most heros that are often junglers in pubs (furion, lone druid, lifestealer, doom, Ursa etc.) get more farm in a lane and are generally more helpful for the team if they farm a lane. A dedicated jungler is only good if the team survives long enough so the extra gold and exp can kick in but if you can win/defend 4v5 for 15-20 minutes you probably would have stomped a proper 5v5 anyways.
The only heros that should jungle from the start are chen and enchantress (sometimes other supports like maiden or veno) but not full time and they are not sitting in the jungle forever they are supposed to gank before the 5 minute mark.
Some heros that farm really fast in the jungle like enigma or lycan are never played in pro games because they take too long to be useful.

Why would anyone stay in jungle for 20 minutes?


because that is how pubs work, i don't know how many lone druids i have seen that tried to farm a radiance before they leave the jungle, the game is usually already lost when they get it.
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