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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
July 25 2012 14:29 GMT
#1661
On July 25 2012 11:01 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 10:17 gwaihir wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:07 YODA_ wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 gwaihir wrote:
why are americans so much worse than europeans? everytime i play at night and i queue USeast (since its searching games faster at that time) i have to play with the biggest idiots i've ever seen. americans are 99% even worse than russians, its hilarious........

Somehow I doubt this.

prove me wrong....the thing is ppl think that almost all russians are bad as hell!! the fact is many are but the majority of them is just unmannered as hell! there are a lot of good russians although beeing unmannered. the americans maybe mannered (most of them) but skillwise there are more russians that are better. its the old story of europe being better than NA u can see it in almost every major game except console games(starcraft, dota, counter-strike, quake despite fatality being the greatest of all, and many more)
its just a horrible experience playing the same skillpool on USeast....


The proof of burden is on you, not YoDa. Throwing around terms like like most and baseless percentages "99%" does not prove a thing. Hell, I can use my own personal experience to refute and even that would not amount to much (I play on US West, East, and Europe Servers). I understand the frustration of playing with bad players and this is a thread meant for venting. But it seems to have been taken too far especially when you just said that all those who have complained about Russians are simply wrong. That the vast majority are misunderstood ad are not actually bad. For which I do not think you have the right to even make that assumption.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 11:00 writer22816 wrote:
I call out a Wisp for buying bottle first and this kid throws a tantrum. He tells that 'you have no idea how to play this hero so shut the fuck up' and 'i'm not gonna support you'. Later he and SK each feed 5 kills in 10 minutes to Tidehunter and Dark seer, while Wisp is busy pinning the blame on SK, calls me and Lion noobs for not being able to kill a solo Lanaya top when we are zoning her, getting freefarm and both of us are higher level than her. You're right I don't know how to play this hero. I have no idea how its possible to feed that badly.

Tidehunter and DS get ridiculously fed to the point where they are easily 2-3+ levels higher than our solo mid lane and both of them have ridiculously fast blink daggers. Wisp and SK account for at least 80% of our deaths, and when Wisp sees that I have freefarm and 0 deaths, he teleports me into tide and DS to get me killed lmao. Some games are just impossible to win. On the bright side, I think we managed to get the enemy team to report him too so that fucker is probably in low priority now.

In the end though, the final fuck you has to go to VALVE for giving us an unwinnable game and denying me a 55% winrate


I worry about people raging with Wisp for that reason since he has so much potential to troll. Reminds me of shadow demon too and tiny. When a player has the ability to screw with their own teammates, things will not end well.


dude i said "many of them are bad " so im not acting like russians are a bunch of poor misunderstood people, please read what im actually writing. and my fucking experience with it is not, like some people here say , out of 2-3 fucking bad games. i played like 200 games on USeast since i have somne american mates and i play at night frequently.
and the blind hatred and racism agsint russians in the dota worl is totally legit in your eyes? like evryone thinks russians are super bad, and if they have a russian in their team they instantly blame em and make allchat comments like "gg my team full of russians" even if those russians did nothing wrong or did not suck the most. you tell me that i generalize this issue with the americans, while the whole fucking dota world does the same with russian. altough russians are like i said 95% super unmannered. but they are not 95% super bad skillwise. the amount of bad players ive seen so far where maybe a third or so, there are the same amount of bad palyers form other nations....and i will say it again for you one more time MANY russians are bad, the problem is 90% of the dota world is

so i QQed enough im out of this thread, cya next time ^^
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 25 2012 14:34 GMT
#1662
Maybe you should read the first post you made on that subject again yourself and think about it.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 25 2012 14:35 GMT
#1663
On July 25 2012 23:29 gwaihir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 11:01 Nilrem wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:17 gwaihir wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:07 YODA_ wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 gwaihir wrote:
why are americans so much worse than europeans? everytime i play at night and i queue USeast (since its searching games faster at that time) i have to play with the biggest idiots i've ever seen. americans are 99% even worse than russians, its hilarious........

Somehow I doubt this.

prove me wrong....the thing is ppl think that almost all russians are bad as hell!! the fact is many are but the majority of them is just unmannered as hell! there are a lot of good russians although beeing unmannered. the americans maybe mannered (most of them) but skillwise there are more russians that are better. its the old story of europe being better than NA u can see it in almost every major game except console games(starcraft, dota, counter-strike, quake despite fatality being the greatest of all, and many more)
its just a horrible experience playing the same skillpool on USeast....


The proof of burden is on you, not YoDa. Throwing around terms like like most and baseless percentages "99%" does not prove a thing. Hell, I can use my own personal experience to refute and even that would not amount to much (I play on US West, East, and Europe Servers). I understand the frustration of playing with bad players and this is a thread meant for venting. But it seems to have been taken too far especially when you just said that all those who have complained about Russians are simply wrong. That the vast majority are misunderstood ad are not actually bad. For which I do not think you have the right to even make that assumption.

On July 25 2012 11:00 writer22816 wrote:
I call out a Wisp for buying bottle first and this kid throws a tantrum. He tells that 'you have no idea how to play this hero so shut the fuck up' and 'i'm not gonna support you'. Later he and SK each feed 5 kills in 10 minutes to Tidehunter and Dark seer, while Wisp is busy pinning the blame on SK, calls me and Lion noobs for not being able to kill a solo Lanaya top when we are zoning her, getting freefarm and both of us are higher level than her. You're right I don't know how to play this hero. I have no idea how its possible to feed that badly.

Tidehunter and DS get ridiculously fed to the point where they are easily 2-3+ levels higher than our solo mid lane and both of them have ridiculously fast blink daggers. Wisp and SK account for at least 80% of our deaths, and when Wisp sees that I have freefarm and 0 deaths, he teleports me into tide and DS to get me killed lmao. Some games are just impossible to win. On the bright side, I think we managed to get the enemy team to report him too so that fucker is probably in low priority now.

In the end though, the final fuck you has to go to VALVE for giving us an unwinnable game and denying me a 55% winrate


I worry about people raging with Wisp for that reason since he has so much potential to troll. Reminds me of shadow demon too and tiny. When a player has the ability to screw with their own teammates, things will not end well.


dude i said "many of them are bad " so im not acting like russians are a bunch of poor misunderstood people, please read what im actually writing. and my fucking experience with it is not, like some people here say , out of 2-3 fucking bad games. i played like 200 games on USeast since i have somne american mates and i play at night frequently.
and the blind hatred and racism agsint russians in the dota worl is totally legit in your eyes? like evryone thinks russians are super bad, and if they have a russian in their team they instantly blame em and make allchat comments like "gg my team full of russians" even if those russians did nothing wrong or did not suck the most. you tell me that i generalize this issue with the americans, while the whole fucking dota world does the same with russian. altough russians are like i said 95% super unmannered. but they are not 95% super bad skillwise. the amount of bad players ive seen so far where maybe a third or so, there are the same amount of bad palyers form other nations....and i will say it again for you one more time MANY russians are bad, the problem is 90% of the dota world is

so i QQed enough im out of this thread, cya next time ^^

cya.

There's a reason why people don't like playing with Russians: Language issues. It's really annoying when the whole chat window is full of words you don't understand.
=Þ
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
July 25 2012 17:08 GMT
#1664
On July 25 2012 23:35 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 23:29 gwaihir wrote:
On July 25 2012 11:01 Nilrem wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:17 gwaihir wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:07 YODA_ wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 gwaihir wrote:
why are americans so much worse than europeans? everytime i play at night and i queue USeast (since its searching games faster at that time) i have to play with the biggest idiots i've ever seen. americans are 99% even worse than russians, its hilarious........

Somehow I doubt this.

prove me wrong....the thing is ppl think that almost all russians are bad as hell!! the fact is many are but the majority of them is just unmannered as hell! there are a lot of good russians although beeing unmannered. the americans maybe mannered (most of them) but skillwise there are more russians that are better. its the old story of europe being better than NA u can see it in almost every major game except console games(starcraft, dota, counter-strike, quake despite fatality being the greatest of all, and many more)
its just a horrible experience playing the same skillpool on USeast....


The proof of burden is on you, not YoDa. Throwing around terms like like most and baseless percentages "99%" does not prove a thing. Hell, I can use my own personal experience to refute and even that would not amount to much (I play on US West, East, and Europe Servers). I understand the frustration of playing with bad players and this is a thread meant for venting. But it seems to have been taken too far especially when you just said that all those who have complained about Russians are simply wrong. That the vast majority are misunderstood ad are not actually bad. For which I do not think you have the right to even make that assumption.

On July 25 2012 11:00 writer22816 wrote:
I call out a Wisp for buying bottle first and this kid throws a tantrum. He tells that 'you have no idea how to play this hero so shut the fuck up' and 'i'm not gonna support you'. Later he and SK each feed 5 kills in 10 minutes to Tidehunter and Dark seer, while Wisp is busy pinning the blame on SK, calls me and Lion noobs for not being able to kill a solo Lanaya top when we are zoning her, getting freefarm and both of us are higher level than her. You're right I don't know how to play this hero. I have no idea how its possible to feed that badly.

Tidehunter and DS get ridiculously fed to the point where they are easily 2-3+ levels higher than our solo mid lane and both of them have ridiculously fast blink daggers. Wisp and SK account for at least 80% of our deaths, and when Wisp sees that I have freefarm and 0 deaths, he teleports me into tide and DS to get me killed lmao. Some games are just impossible to win. On the bright side, I think we managed to get the enemy team to report him too so that fucker is probably in low priority now.

In the end though, the final fuck you has to go to VALVE for giving us an unwinnable game and denying me a 55% winrate


I worry about people raging with Wisp for that reason since he has so much potential to troll. Reminds me of shadow demon too and tiny. When a player has the ability to screw with their own teammates, things will not end well.


dude i said "many of them are bad " so im not acting like russians are a bunch of poor misunderstood people, please read what im actually writing. and my fucking experience with it is not, like some people here say , out of 2-3 fucking bad games. i played like 200 games on USeast since i have somne american mates and i play at night frequently.
and the blind hatred and racism agsint russians in the dota worl is totally legit in your eyes? like evryone thinks russians are super bad, and if they have a russian in their team they instantly blame em and make allchat comments like "gg my team full of russians" even if those russians did nothing wrong or did not suck the most. you tell me that i generalize this issue with the americans, while the whole fucking dota world does the same with russian. altough russians are like i said 95% super unmannered. but they are not 95% super bad skillwise. the amount of bad players ive seen so far where maybe a third or so, there are the same amount of bad palyers form other nations....and i will say it again for you one more time MANY russians are bad, the problem is 90% of the dota world is

so i QQed enough im out of this thread, cya next time ^^

cya.

There's a reason why people don't like playing with Russians: Language issues. It's really annoying when the whole chat window is full of words you don't understand.

Thats called xenophobia, bro.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 25 2012 17:13 GMT
#1665
holy shit... just the beginning of the week i got into very high match making, now being matched with russian and LoL players. These people have no clue what is the normal starting items and basicly auto attack creep @_@... Like auto attack auto attack, not even last hitting..... :O
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 25 2012 17:21 GMT
#1666
On July 26 2012 02:13 NB wrote:
holy shit... just the beginning of the week i got into very high match making, now being matched with russian and LoL players. These people have no clue what is the normal starting items and basicly auto attack creep @_@... Like auto attack auto attack, not even last hitting..... :O

Love those guys.

Me: Can you please stop autoattacking?
Him: lol/axa
Me: Please?
Him: stfu noob/cyka/fuck off
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 25 2012 17:31 GMT
#1667
On July 26 2012 02:08 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 23:35 Heh_ wrote:
On July 25 2012 23:29 gwaihir wrote:
On July 25 2012 11:01 Nilrem wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:17 gwaihir wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:07 YODA_ wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 gwaihir wrote:
why are americans so much worse than europeans? everytime i play at night and i queue USeast (since its searching games faster at that time) i have to play with the biggest idiots i've ever seen. americans are 99% even worse than russians, its hilarious........

Somehow I doubt this.

prove me wrong....the thing is ppl think that almost all russians are bad as hell!! the fact is many are but the majority of them is just unmannered as hell! there are a lot of good russians although beeing unmannered. the americans maybe mannered (most of them) but skillwise there are more russians that are better. its the old story of europe being better than NA u can see it in almost every major game except console games(starcraft, dota, counter-strike, quake despite fatality being the greatest of all, and many more)
its just a horrible experience playing the same skillpool on USeast....


The proof of burden is on you, not YoDa. Throwing around terms like like most and baseless percentages "99%" does not prove a thing. Hell, I can use my own personal experience to refute and even that would not amount to much (I play on US West, East, and Europe Servers). I understand the frustration of playing with bad players and this is a thread meant for venting. But it seems to have been taken too far especially when you just said that all those who have complained about Russians are simply wrong. That the vast majority are misunderstood ad are not actually bad. For which I do not think you have the right to even make that assumption.

On July 25 2012 11:00 writer22816 wrote:
I call out a Wisp for buying bottle first and this kid throws a tantrum. He tells that 'you have no idea how to play this hero so shut the fuck up' and 'i'm not gonna support you'. Later he and SK each feed 5 kills in 10 minutes to Tidehunter and Dark seer, while Wisp is busy pinning the blame on SK, calls me and Lion noobs for not being able to kill a solo Lanaya top when we are zoning her, getting freefarm and both of us are higher level than her. You're right I don't know how to play this hero. I have no idea how its possible to feed that badly.

Tidehunter and DS get ridiculously fed to the point where they are easily 2-3+ levels higher than our solo mid lane and both of them have ridiculously fast blink daggers. Wisp and SK account for at least 80% of our deaths, and when Wisp sees that I have freefarm and 0 deaths, he teleports me into tide and DS to get me killed lmao. Some games are just impossible to win. On the bright side, I think we managed to get the enemy team to report him too so that fucker is probably in low priority now.

In the end though, the final fuck you has to go to VALVE for giving us an unwinnable game and denying me a 55% winrate


I worry about people raging with Wisp for that reason since he has so much potential to troll. Reminds me of shadow demon too and tiny. When a player has the ability to screw with their own teammates, things will not end well.


dude i said "many of them are bad " so im not acting like russians are a bunch of poor misunderstood people, please read what im actually writing. and my fucking experience with it is not, like some people here say , out of 2-3 fucking bad games. i played like 200 games on USeast since i have somne american mates and i play at night frequently.
and the blind hatred and racism agsint russians in the dota worl is totally legit in your eyes? like evryone thinks russians are super bad, and if they have a russian in their team they instantly blame em and make allchat comments like "gg my team full of russians" even if those russians did nothing wrong or did not suck the most. you tell me that i generalize this issue with the americans, while the whole fucking dota world does the same with russian. altough russians are like i said 95% super unmannered. but they are not 95% super bad skillwise. the amount of bad players ive seen so far where maybe a third or so, there are the same amount of bad palyers form other nations....and i will say it again for you one more time MANY russians are bad, the problem is 90% of the dota world is

so i QQed enough im out of this thread, cya next time ^^

cya.

There's a reason why people don't like playing with Russians: Language issues. It's really annoying when the whole chat window is full of words you don't understand.

Thats called xenophobia, bro.

Communication is key. When you can't even communicate, you're already 1 step closer to losing the game. English is the accepted language on most servers. If you don't wanna type in English, then play with a 5-man stack.
=Þ
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 18:58:40
July 25 2012 18:55 GMT
#1668
Well I just played with a guy who randomed Clinkz, bought a soul ring with his random gold and proceeded to lose his solo offlane to a Riki. Riki did get help from a roaming VS who spent most of the game walking back and forth in the warded river, but mostly it was Clinkz losing a 1v1 lane to a fucking Rikimaru. This same guy of course spent a lot of time flaming (his go-to insult was for whatever reason "slowpoke"). At 20 minutes he couldn't solo kill the same venge. He ended the game with a bottle, soul ring, ring of aquila and treads.

Man, Dota2 sometimes. I've seen some shit.

I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
indxrje
Profile Joined May 2012
227 Posts
July 25 2012 22:32 GMT
#1669
people that decline match/don't accept should be shot
hihi
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 25 2012 23:08 GMT
#1670
bloodseeker

User was warned for this post
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 25 2012 23:35 GMT
#1671
On July 26 2012 07:32 indxrje wrote:
people that decline match/don't accept should be shot

Will be punished this upcoming patch
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
July 26 2012 00:43 GMT
#1672
On July 26 2012 08:35 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 07:32 indxrje wrote:
people that decline match/don't accept should be shot

Will be punished this upcoming patch

Oh what's being done about this in the next patch?

What I really hate is when people fail to load the game. I don't understand how this even happens besides if they hit accept and then alt+f4...
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 26 2012 00:46 GMT
#1673
On July 26 2012 09:43 castled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 08:35 ahswtini wrote:
On July 26 2012 07:32 indxrje wrote:
people that decline match/don't accept should be shot

Will be punished this upcoming patch

Oh what's being done about this in the next patch?

What I really hate is when people fail to load the game. I don't understand how this even happens besides if they hit accept and then alt+f4...

my cat steps on my power button.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 26 2012 00:52 GMT
#1674
They get a delay before they can join another game.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 00:57:03
July 26 2012 00:54 GMT
#1675
Yes, feed that enemy BH, it's not like he has track and gets fat beyond measure. Sure, stay around with 400 HP when he crits for 600. What could possibly go wrong. Some people...

And wtf is wrong with people that they want to damage opponents during Naga ulti, like, how do you even breathe.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 26 2012 07:42 GMT
#1676
Friend picks TA and calls mid. Mirana picks last and demands mid because he thinks TA is bad based on previous stats (friend is playing on a smurf account due to low priority on main). We refuse, because mirana starts out with a fucking blades of attack LOL. Mirana says "whatever we're going to lose anyway" and heads bot with lich. Together the 2 of them auto attack and feed Sven and Drow. A few minutes later potm is 0-5-1. Yeah, you would have made a great mid. And you're right we were going to lose anyway, because you were on our team

After the game I check out this guy's profile, and not only does this guy have 300 games played (winning less than half of them), he also has over 80 commendations LOL. You would think that, after 300 games played, even the dumbest of players would have learned some laning basics such as not autoattacking, but I guess not. IMO Valve should really remove the commendation system as it is right now. It's impossible to tell the difference between real manner players and trash players.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
July 26 2012 08:24 GMT
#1677
On July 26 2012 16:42 writer22816 wrote:
Friend picks TA and calls mid. Mirana picks last and demands mid because he thinks TA is bad based on previous stats (friend is playing on a smurf account due to low priority on main). We refuse, because mirana starts out with a fucking blades of attack LOL. Mirana says "whatever we're going to lose anyway" and heads bot with lich. Together the 2 of them auto attack and feed Sven and Drow. A few minutes later potm is 0-5-1. Yeah, you would have made a great mid. And you're right we were going to lose anyway, because you were on our team

After the game I check out this guy's profile, and not only does this guy have 300 games played (winning less than half of them), he also has over 80 commendations LOL. You would think that, after 300 games played, even the dumbest of players would have learned some laning basics such as not autoattacking, but I guess not. IMO Valve should really remove the commendation system as it is right now. It's impossible to tell the difference between real manner players and trash players.


Yeah.. the person is probably one of those kids that spam channels asking to trade commendation or items for them. Makes me want to slap every single one of them. Probably the only thing I hate about items being in the game is just how many spammers there are now. I avoid the general chats (like USWest) because I do not want to deal with them. But when I start seeing it in other channels like Teamliquid, I just really wish reporting would make a difference.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 26 2012 09:13 GMT
#1678
Naga's ult cd when maxed.

Fuck you. Fuck. You.
ffxiv enjoyer
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 09:26:10
July 26 2012 09:14 GMT
#1679
god i need to vent so hard

how can a nation that is pretty good at starcraft be so bad at Dota?

and it's not even that, these russians come into games on the europe server and there's like 8 in a 10 man game and they have misleading as fuck names in english and I try to communicate and then the 4 of them start speaking russian together and I end up being the minority of the euro server

admittedly not all russians are terrible, there are good russians out there but make no mistake the vast majority of russians i play with are terrible (worse than me terrible)

and then they do this stuff that kills me inside where it's not an actual smiley face it's just a fucking bracket
"you cyka))" I also remember asking a couple why they don't play on the russia server, replied something along the lines "too many bad players"

kills me inside, they have their own server, why do i end up being the minority european on the euro server? the game essentially becomes the team that has more russians, loses. i don't know what valve can do to fix it but maybe there's less russians higher up the MMR scale
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 26 2012 09:32 GMT
#1680
In my last 2 games, I have had a Mirana who buys blades of attack first, and a Gondar who buys ring of protection + ring of regeneration first.

Yeah...I'm not gonna play for a while.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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