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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 22 2013 16:07 GMT
#13941
On August 22 2013 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
the day huskar makes -cm is the day pro dota literally becomes a shitshow


Yeah because he's unkillable or something. I mean not like there are types of damage that ignore magic resistance and can do ridiculous damage or anything... oh wait.

Pub hero != OP.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 16:11 GMT
#13942
On August 23 2013 01:02 deichkind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 23:21 Animzor wrote:
On August 22 2013 21:31 deichkind wrote:
spirit breaker stupidest fukin hero in the game, and whats with all the tryhards counter picking in AP? seriously......


since you aren't trying, why do you care that you're losing?



, im tryin to win accually, just that i gets on my nerves after awhile to have people counterpick and then being like "easy" "gg", and thats when i quit playing for awhile. maybe im giving them too much credit in calling them counterpickers aswell, just feels like it.

would be so much better imo to just have people random after the timer runs out.
as for hukar, i dont see him much but im sure if i did i would feel the same way about him as i do with sb.

Pick Omni or Tree against SB and laugh entire match. Omni is the best, just drop the magic protection and heal on SBs target. His ult doesn't work and he takes a shit ton of damage. And tree is even funnier, because living armor is global.
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 22 2013 16:12 GMT
#13943
On August 23 2013 01:07 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
the day huskar makes -cm is the day pro dota literally becomes a shitshow


Yeah because he's unkillable or something. I mean not like there are types of damage that ignore magic resistance and can do ridiculous damage or anything... oh wait.

Pub hero != OP.


To be honest I'm kinda hoping he DOES make it into CM soon and gets picked a bit.

That way the average pub player might have some idea about how to shut him down by copying the pros. >_>
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 16:18 GMT
#13944
On August 23 2013 01:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:07 LeLoup wrote:
On August 22 2013 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
the day huskar makes -cm is the day pro dota literally becomes a shitshow


Yeah because he's unkillable or something. I mean not like there are types of damage that ignore magic resistance and can do ridiculous damage or anything... oh wait.

Pub hero != OP.


To be honest I'm kinda hoping he DOES make it into CM soon and gets picked a bit.

That way the average pub player might have some idea about how to shut him down by copying the pros. >_>

I want him and Elder Titan and Abbadon in CM. All those heroes are just dumb enough to be in the mode and will spice up the meta. Plus I want to see a pro sleep an entire team with ET.

But this is the QQ thread, so....I am really upset that I didn't get to play Dota 2 last night and only got to practice pulling and stacking with Bane against bots. Stupid real life getting in the way of my amateur Dota 2 career.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 16:25 GMT
#13945
ET/Naga OP combo.

Abbadon is just a pubbier omni (aka worse for competitive which is saying something).

Huskar is QQ-worthy because if you don't expressly counterpick him in pubs you have extremely limited recourse against him
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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
August 22 2013 16:27 GMT
#13946
The match making in this game is so broken. I'm trying to learn Invoker so I made a whole new dota account for it. Hoping I'd be placed into the lower skill brackets. First game I go 19-0 because everyone is so god damn bad. It's "Normal", then the next game I'm placed in high and we get stomped. Next game is "high" but everyone is so awful in it again that I get a ridiculous score again and we stomp them. Then my team gets stomped again. And it keeps going like this in that order. From stomps to getting stomped. I don't get it lmao.

Sometimes I feel like this game has a MM system like SC2 where it's designed so you only win 50% of your games.
Not bad for a cat toy.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 16:28:48
August 22 2013 16:28 GMT
#13947
On August 23 2013 01:07 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
the day huskar makes -cm is the day pro dota literally becomes a shitshow


Yeah because he's unkillable or something. I mean not like there are types of damage that ignore magic resistance and can do ridiculous damage or anything... oh wait.

Pub hero != OP.

excuse me i'm trying to get my tears out qqing
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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 22 2013 16:30 GMT
#13948
On August 23 2013 01:27 Krohm wrote:
The match making in this game is so broken. I'm trying to learn Invoker so I made a whole new dota account for it. Hoping I'd be placed into the lower skill brackets. First game I go 19-0 because everyone is so god damn bad. It's "Normal", then the next game I'm placed in high and we get stomped. Next game is "high" but everyone is so awful in it again that I get a ridiculous score again and we stomp them. Then my team gets stomped again. And it keeps going like this in that order. From stomps to getting stomped. I don't get it lmao.

Sometimes I feel like this game has a MM system like SC2 where it's designed so you only win 50% of your games.


lol

This is the purpose of the MM. So that people don't smurf their way to owning noobs at the start. No need to QQ when it's totally your fault. In fact... it should be other poeple QQ'ing

"I am a new dota player and some asshole playing Invoker started a new account just to smash noobs... QQ not fun"

Your MMR will level off after some number of games. If it really bothered you that much you should've just played Invoker on your main account, who cares if you lose a few at the start? You'l lget better faster playing decent competition.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 16:32 GMT
#13949
On August 23 2013 01:27 Krohm wrote:
The match making in this game is so broken. I'm trying to learn Invoker so I made a whole new dota account for it. Hoping I'd be placed into the lower skill brackets. First game I go 19-0 because everyone is so god damn bad. It's "Normal", then the next game I'm placed in high and we get stomped. Next game is "high" but everyone is so awful in it again that I get a ridiculous score again and we stomp them. Then my team gets stomped again. And it keeps going like this in that order. From stomps to getting stomped. I don't get it lmao.

Sometimes I feel like this game has a MM system like SC2 where it's designed so you only win 50% of your games.

I think you got rocked by Smurf Detection, not the MM. You should just cut your teeth against bots for a while until you get those spells down. Firebolt is pretty good with Invoker, ask him for some tips.
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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 16:40:37
August 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#13950
On August 23 2013 01:30 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:27 Krohm wrote:
The match making in this game is so broken. I'm trying to learn Invoker so I made a whole new dota account for it. Hoping I'd be placed into the lower skill brackets. First game I go 19-0 because everyone is so god damn bad. It's "Normal", then the next game I'm placed in high and we get stomped. Next game is "high" but everyone is so awful in it again that I get a ridiculous score again and we stomp them. Then my team gets stomped again. And it keeps going like this in that order. From stomps to getting stomped. I don't get it lmao.

Sometimes I feel like this game has a MM system like SC2 where it's designed so you only win 50% of your games.


lol

This is the purpose of the MM. So that people don't smurf their way to owning noobs at the start. No need to QQ when it's totally your fault. In fact... it should be other poeple QQ'ing

"I am a new dota player and some asshole playing Invoker started a new account just to smash noobs... QQ not fun"

Your MMR will level off after some number of games. If it really bothered you that much you should've just played Invoker on your main account, who cares if you lose a few at the start? You'l lget better faster playing decent competition.

That's not it at all. I just hate the giant gaps of skill between games. I don't want to rock newbs, it would be nice to play people around my level of invoker. But so far it's been smashed or get smashed. There are no "close" games.

On August 23 2013 01:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:27 Krohm wrote:
The match making in this game is so broken. I'm trying to learn Invoker so I made a whole new dota account for it. Hoping I'd be placed into the lower skill brackets. First game I go 19-0 because everyone is so god damn bad. It's "Normal", then the next game I'm placed in high and we get stomped. Next game is "high" but everyone is so awful in it again that I get a ridiculous score again and we stomp them. Then my team gets stomped again. And it keeps going like this in that order. From stomps to getting stomped. I don't get it lmao.

Sometimes I feel like this game has a MM system like SC2 where it's designed so you only win 50% of your games.

I think you got rocked by Smurf Detection, not the MM. You should just cut your teeth against bots for a while until you get those spells down. Firebolt is pretty good with Invoker, ask him for some tips.


I've read a lot of guides so I have a rough idea of what I'm doing. My biggest issue though is identifying which spells I should be using for what situations. And learning to mash out ghost walk when in trouble lmao. Probably need another 50 games to really get him down.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 22 2013 17:11 GMT
#13951
Abaddon is overpowered and should not he in CM.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 17:18 GMT
#13952
On August 23 2013 02:11 Kuroeeah wrote:
Abaddon is overpowered and should not he in CM.

That is some solid logic you got there. Get rocked by him in some pubs games I assume?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
August 22 2013 17:23 GMT
#13953
On August 23 2013 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
ET/Naga OP combo.

Abbadon is just a pubbier omni (aka worse for competitive which is saying something).

Huskar is QQ-worthy because if you don't expressly counterpick him in pubs you have extremely limited recourse against him


How do you counter Huskar then?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 17:25:16
August 22 2013 17:25 GMT
#13954
On August 23 2013 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
ET/Naga OP combo.

Abbadon is just a pubbier omni (aka worse for competitive which is saying something).

Huskar is QQ-worthy because if you don't expressly counterpick him in pubs you have extremely limited recourse against him

yeah but you can counterpick him with timber which is FUNFUNFUN to play
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
August 22 2013 17:26 GMT
#13955
On August 23 2013 02:23 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
ET/Naga OP combo.

Abbadon is just a pubbier omni (aka worse for competitive which is saying something).

Huskar is QQ-worthy because if you don't expressly counterpick him in pubs you have extremely limited recourse against him


How do you counter Huskar then?

Every single one of Bane's spells is extremely good against him. Other than that any pure damage or a team with good physical damage early.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 17:26 GMT
#13956
On August 23 2013 02:23 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
ET/Naga OP combo.

Abbadon is just a pubbier omni (aka worse for competitive which is saying something).

Huskar is QQ-worthy because if you don't expressly counterpick him in pubs you have extremely limited recourse against him


How do you counter Huskar then?

With anything that punches through MR? Bane? Omni and fat heals? Disrupter and Glimpse.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:32 GMT
#13957
Timber looks great against huskar on paper but really isnt' that great vs him. All huskar has to do is not stand immediately next to trees and timber can't pure damage him. It all goes downhill from there since timber is pure magic burst which is pretty bad vs huskar.

I mean sure, if the huskar is awful...
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 17:39:30
August 22 2013 17:38 GMT
#13958
On August 23 2013 02:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Timber looks great against huskar on paper but really isnt' that great vs him. All huskar has to do is not stand immediately next to trees and timber can't pure damage him. It all goes downhill from there since timber is pure magic burst which is pretty bad vs huskar.

I mean sure, if the huskar is awful...

I dunno man, there are a lot of trees on the map, its not like husk is gonna be able to stay away from them consistently throughout the game. Even being able to present that kind of threat to him is pretty valuable, if the huskar is smart then he will still have very restricted movement around you before he has bkb up.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
August 22 2013 17:40 GMT
#13959
On August 23 2013 02:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Timber looks great against huskar on paper but really isnt' that great vs him. All huskar has to do is not stand immediately next to trees and timber can't pure damage him. It all goes downhill from there since timber is pure magic burst which is pretty bad vs huskar.

I mean sure, if the huskar is awful...

Timber chain is pure, chakram is pure.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:46 GMT
#13960
Hmm.

Well I thought only his sawblades were pure. Ah well my bad.
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