Dota 2 QQ thread - Page 616

On July 04 2013 06:44 Zephirdd wrote:
Tiny feeds 6 kills then abandons
It's fine, lets leave...

No, my newbie friend(learned to play a month ago) says it's stupid to leave a game.

It's 4v5 and their team is fed as fuck, what the hell is he expecting?

I find it EXTREMELY disrespectful when people don't leave in this situation. Apparently, it's respectful to stay in game for him.

The fuck?

On July 04 2013 09:36 Quotidian wrote:
nine game loss streak and only two wins out of the last 13 games. Wtf is going on?

Also.. I hate Tinkers with "unorthodox" item builds. What's the point of a Tinker that's not teleporting all over the map?

On July 04 2013 10:31 Infernal_dream wrote:


How is that disrespectful at all? Maybe he just wants to play the game out. I fail to see your logic jump.

You're basically saying "fuck you for wanting to finish a game. Quit being so disrespectful, just leave." Sorry, that's not logical at all. I've played plenty of games through where people leave.

On July 04 2013 12:06 Myrddraal wrote:


Man, try to actually think before you assume that something isn't logical, he didn't actually explain why he found it disrespectful, there are plenty of valid reasons to not want to stick around in a lost game.

For example, I work full time, there is only a limited amount of dota that I can play on a weekday, I'd rather spend as much of that time playing a decent game rather than trying futilely to win when it's 4v5 and the other team is extremely fed. Sure if it was a close game by all means it's worth a shot, or sometime you just feel like messing around seeing if you can get some pick offs for fun but logically, if there is no chance of winning and nothing to lose from leaving then leaving makes more sense.

I wouldn't go as far to say that it's inherently disrespectful either way, but I don't find any joy in winning a won game, or losing a lost game, so I would much prefer that the game ends sooner rather than later, and if a teammate abandons and we are clearly going to lose, I take that as an opportunity to speed up the process.

On July 04 2013 12:24 nttea wrote:

I find it most disrespectful towards the 5man team. Playing 5 vs less than 5 is boring as shit. If there's still a chance for the enemy team to win i can forgive them but otherwise it's just really bad mannered to stay.

On July 04 2013 09:36 Quotidian wrote:
nine game loss streak and only two wins out of the last 13 games. Wtf is going on?

Also.. I hate Tinkers with "unorthodox" item builds. What's the point of a Tinker that's not teleporting all over the map?

On July 04 2013 15:51 Chrian wrote:
It is so astonishingly difficult for me to win a pub game where I'm not carrying. Good lord, who knew last hitting creeps was so hard. How does a safelane PA get 5 kills, a couple assists, and essentially a free lane for 23 minutes and come out with phase boots, a battlefury, and literally nothing else.

On July 04 2013 14:30 Myrddraal wrote:
Not quite serious QQ related to the last two posts. I recently got my girlfriend to start playing dota, probably a couple of weeks ago, started off with some lobby games, then moved on to Co-op Bot games so she could find out about the wonderful community of dota players and feel like she is making progress by earning levels and finding items.

Last night she sends me a picture while I'm on the way home asking, "What are these guys doing? They pinged a bunch of times so I came over but they told me to go back to lane, are they just farming? I asked them what they were doing but they wouldn't tell me so I got angry and left the game" The picture was of a Natures Prophet, Mirana and Qop all sitting on the radiant hard camp cliff.

I couldn't help laughing when I saw the picture, as I told her they were probably just griefing and probably doing it for the random drops and xp because surely no one could possibly believe that triple cliff jungling is a legitimate strategy. I had a similar experience with her another night, though with a single Batrider in the dire jungle that was literally afk all game except for buying items, and a Furion on the radiant cliff that occasionally came out to push a tower or get some kills.

It makes me wonder if there are people out there using multiple accounts to farm random item drops, abusing the fact that many people who play bot games might not even know how to report (not that it matters since they could easily make a new account). Not that I think this is a huge deal, except that if there are 3 players doing it at the same time, that kind of ruins the game for the other two players and they can't leave without getting an abandon, though if I was in the game I would've blocked the camp in the hopes that I could make one of them abandon haha. Not to mention I'm sure Valve wouldn't like people gaming the system like that.

Anyone else experienced or heard of this?

On July 04 2013 15:51 Chrian wrote:
It is so astonishingly difficult for me to win a pub game where I'm not carrying. Good lord, who knew last hitting creeps was so hard. How does a safelane PA get 5 kills, a couple assists, and essentially a free lane for 23 minutes and come out with phase boots, a battlefury, and literally nothing else.

On July 04 2013 15:10 icystorage wrote:

i used to do that too.. now i just random immediately and dont give a fuck. im here to have a good time.

On July 04 2013 12:06 Myrddraal wrote:


Man, try to actually think before you assume that something isn't logical, he didn't actually explain why he found it disrespectful, there are plenty of valid reasons to not want to stick around in a lost game.

For example, I work full time, there is only a limited amount of dota that I can play on a weekday, I'd rather spend as much of that time playing a decent game rather than trying futilely to win when it's 4v5 and the other team is extremely fed. Sure if it was a close game by all means it's worth a shot, or sometime you just feel like messing around seeing if you can get some pick offs for fun but logically, if there is no chance of winning and nothing to lose from leaving then leaving makes more sense.

I wouldn't go as far to say that it's inherently disrespectful either way, but I don't find any joy in winning a won game, or losing a lost game, so I would much prefer that the game ends sooner rather than later, and if a teammate abandons and we are clearly going to lose, I take that as an opportunity to speed up the process.

On July 03 2013 19:12 Ryrmidon wrote:

Have you ever actually played support? You need boots to have the ability to roam, to survive vs ganks / tower dives, not to mention trying to zone out the opponent for your carry to farm becomes 10 times more dangerous when you move way slower than them. Jakiro specifically has one of the lowest base movement speeds in the game. "You don't need boots because ice path has long range" sounds really dumb.

As a carry you're already getting 100% of the lane farm, which a support is usually going out of their way to help you ensure. As lycan you also have access to every other jungle camp early in the game. The pull camp is literally the only way for a support to make money in the early game, stealing it fucks you way more than it helps the carry.

If the carry's having a rough time in lane then support should give away the camps, but otherwise it's really annoying. I don't go as far as to instantly ruin the game, but if someone starts stealing my pull camp I warn them that I'm not gonna bother buying wards / flying couri / detection for the team if they don't stop.

edit: obviously it was the pull camp...how does Jakiro farm any other camp early game (unless you think easy camps worth fighting over)

Also QQ: Played Warlock, positioned myself horribly in one of the games most deciding fights, got initiated on by Magnus and killed before I could get Aghs + Refresher orb ulti off. My team ended up getting wiped and losing rax. No more 2am dota for me : (