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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
July 04 2013 09:33 GMT
#12321
On July 04 2013 18:24 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 18:11 sandyph wrote:
On July 03 2013 19:12 Ryrmidon wrote:
On July 03 2013 18:58 TOCHMY wrote:
On July 03 2013 18:56 Ryrmidon wrote:
Is this really an argument? Boots are important, and taking the pull camps from a support is douchy. I dont agree with ruining the game because of it, but it annoys me too when the carry player does that because "ur support, u dont need money "


Well we don't know if it was the pull camp or not. But you don't really need boots on Jakiro so fast that you definately NEED that stacked camp RIGHT NOW. I mean his ice path can hit from miles away.

Have you ever actually played support? You need boots to have the ability to roam, to survive vs ganks / tower dives, not to mention trying to zone out the opponent for your carry to farm becomes 10 times more dangerous when you move way slower than them. Jakiro specifically has one of the lowest base movement speeds in the game. "You don't need boots because ice path has long range" sounds really dumb.

As a carry you're already getting 100% of the lane farm, which a support is usually going out of their way to help you ensure. As lycan you also have access to every other jungle camp early in the game. The pull camp is literally the only way for a support to make money in the early game, stealing it fucks you way more than it helps the carry.

If the carry's having a rough time in lane then support should give away the camps, but otherwise it's really annoying. I don't go as far as to instantly ruin the game, but if someone starts stealing my pull camp I warn them that I'm not gonna bother buying wards / flying couri / detection for the team if they don't stop.

edit: obviously it was the pull camp...how does Jakiro farm any other camp early game (unless you think easy camps worth fighting over)

Also QQ: Played Warlock, positioned myself horribly in one of the games most deciding fights, got initiated on by Magnus and killed before I could get Aghs + Refresher orb ulti off. My team ended up getting wiped and losing rax. No more 2am dota for me : (


nothing more infrutiating when playing support then when you stack and pull, the carry come and take the last hit on nc and let enemy creep die to the tower

fucking learn to play

as a support, my mouth waters everytime im left alone early game near a tower and solo xp creeps


those solo xp creeps would be better on the stupid carry that fighting last hit with creeps

Put quote here for readability
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 04 2013 09:34 GMT
#12322
yeah true, that's why im sympathizing with you.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
July 04 2013 09:43 GMT
#12323
last hitting minions under turret, very useful talent toi have
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
July 04 2013 09:49 GMT
#12324
On July 04 2013 18:43 lazyitachi wrote:
last hitting minions under turret, very useful talent toi have


I see what you did there
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
July 04 2013 11:12 GMT
#12325
On July 04 2013 16:06 DustbinBieber wrote:
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On July 04 2013 15:51 Chrian wrote:
It is so astonishingly difficult for me to win a pub game where I'm not carrying. Good lord, who knew last hitting creeps was so hard. How does a safelane PA get 5 kills, a couple assists, and essentially a free lane for 23 minutes and come out with phase boots, a battlefury, and literally nothing else.



Know that feel bro
Playing mid usually makes you impact enough too, granting you wanna change :p

Not when the sidelanes feed so bad the dual lanes are higher level than you...
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
July 04 2013 12:39 GMT
#12326
I have a very simple QQ..

I know, it sounds like I'm a prick, noobie guy, because everytime the game starts: "I'm taking (bot/mid/top) lane, thanks =)" .
But, is it hard to understand that when someone called for a lane, it means he's literally taking that specific lane? Why would you go there too, when you know there are already 2 heroes standing at that lane (except you've discussed to do a tri-lane)? Is it that hard to be "kind" to others?
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 12:59:28
July 04 2013 12:56 GMT
#12327
I fucking hate supporting self entitled players

"WHERE ARE WARDS, WHY DIDN'T THE TEAM FOLLOW ME, TREANT HEAL ME 24/7, OH MY GOD THIS FUCKING TEAM, I'M AFK NOW"

I honestly should have just muted him, made a miserable game (played against a PL) even worse

surprisingly, the russian 4stack that I played prior to that was about 1000 times better. None of them built Vanguard to start with, they all bought detection when needed, coordinated ganks, the whole shebang. We ended up at 36-6 when someone on the other team abandoned and the rest of his team left. Matchmaking, you are a fickle mistress.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 04 2013 13:00 GMT
#12328
esp when you are the only support and bought/flew the courier then mid complans 'we need wards' when you have 1 gg branch no boots
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 04 2013 13:04 GMT
#12329
Something that fucking pisses me off is when people instalock someone like drow then as soon as the game starts say 'courier pls', fuck that annoys me.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 13:10:39
July 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#12330
I can symphatize with them because sometimes I feel like playing a certain carry, even though I mostly play support, so I instalock that character. I consider it a miracle if someone actually buys the courier.

On July 04 2013 22:00 icystorage wrote:
esp when you are the only support and bought/flew the courier then mid complans 'we need wards' when you have 1 gg branch no boots


the middle panel is I how feel whenever someone complains about lack of X

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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 04 2013 13:18 GMT
#12331
cant play anymore... i get like 20 second LAG breaks, sometimes more, just to get 1 picture of what happened in the meanwhile ---> another 20 second break.

happens since 4 days ago, no idea why :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 04 2013 13:27 GMT
#12332
On July 04 2013 18:24 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 18:11 sandyph wrote:
On July 03 2013 19:12 Ryrmidon wrote:
On July 03 2013 18:58 TOCHMY wrote:
On July 03 2013 18:56 Ryrmidon wrote:
Is this really an argument? Boots are important, and taking the pull camps from a support is douchy. I dont agree with ruining the game because of it, but it annoys me too when the carry player does that because "ur support, u dont need money "


Well we don't know if it was the pull camp or not. But you don't really need boots on Jakiro so fast that you definately NEED that stacked camp RIGHT NOW. I mean his ice path can hit from miles away.

Have you ever actually played support? You need boots to have the ability to roam, to survive vs ganks / tower dives, not to mention trying to zone out the opponent for your carry to farm becomes 10 times more dangerous when you move way slower than them. Jakiro specifically has one of the lowest base movement speeds in the game. "You don't need boots because ice path has long range" sounds really dumb.

As a carry you're already getting 100% of the lane farm, which a support is usually going out of their way to help you ensure. As lycan you also have access to every other jungle camp early in the game. The pull camp is literally the only way for a support to make money in the early game, stealing it fucks you way more than it helps the carry.

If the carry's having a rough time in lane then support should give away the camps, but otherwise it's really annoying. I don't go as far as to instantly ruin the game, but if someone starts stealing my pull camp I warn them that I'm not gonna bother buying wards / flying couri / detection for the team if they don't stop.

edit: obviously it was the pull camp...how does Jakiro farm any other camp early game (unless you think easy camps worth fighting over)

Also QQ: Played Warlock, positioned myself horribly in one of the games most deciding fights, got initiated on by Magnus and killed before I could get Aghs + Refresher orb ulti off. My team ended up getting wiped and losing rax. No more 2am dota for me : (


nothing more infrutiating when playing support then when you stack and pull, the carry come and take the last hit on nc and let enemy creep die to the tower

fucking learn to play

as a support, my mouth waters everytime im left alone early game near a tower and solo xp creeps


Or when you move around to ward, and see that your mid has left the lane to gank somewhere.
Free XP & Gold and EVERYTHING!!! One wave = new set of wards !

And then the mid completes (as in fails) his gank, sees you taking a bit of farm ping spams you while walking bad "get out of my lane noob!" Yeah, because I surely would've stayed there as soon as you're back ....


My other QQ would be:
Playing a game as Omni, also Tree on my team. Have to buy all the support items alone, wards, courier & dust/sentries for their BH. Healing (together with the Tree) like a boss - giving our mid-Slark the snowballiest game possible.
Slark: "My team is so fucking bad! Why do I play with such noobs?"
Yeah, because you only died 2 times because you're such an awesome player....
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
July 04 2013 13:42 GMT
#12333
On July 04 2013 21:56 hooahah wrote:
I fucking hate supporting self entitled players

"WHERE ARE WARDS, WHY DIDN'T THE TEAM FOLLOW ME, TREANT HEAL ME 24/7, OH MY GOD THIS FUCKING TEAM, I'M AFK NOW"

I honestly should have just muted him, made a miserable game (played against a PL) even worse

surprisingly, the russian 4stack that I played prior to that was about 1000 times better. None of them built Vanguard to start with, they all bought detection when needed, coordinated ganks, the whole shebang. We ended up at 36-6 when someone on the other team abandoned and the rest of his team left. Matchmaking, you are a fickle mistress.


On the contrary: it's annoying as hell when the supports on your team doesn't get ward, and you as mid hero have to buy them yourself. Even worse when you have to buy BOTH courier and ward.

Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
July 04 2013 13:46 GMT
#12334
1st game my offlane got 0-13
2nd game mid got 0-8
interesting games
FTD
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
July 04 2013 13:54 GMT
#12335
On July 04 2013 22:42 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:56 hooahah wrote:
I fucking hate supporting self entitled players

"WHERE ARE WARDS, WHY DIDN'T THE TEAM FOLLOW ME, TREANT HEAL ME 24/7, OH MY GOD THIS FUCKING TEAM, I'M AFK NOW"

I honestly should have just muted him, made a miserable game (played against a PL) even worse

surprisingly, the russian 4stack that I played prior to that was about 1000 times better. None of them built Vanguard to start with, they all bought detection when needed, coordinated ganks, the whole shebang. We ended up at 36-6 when someone on the other team abandoned and the rest of his team left. Matchmaking, you are a fickle mistress.


On the contrary: it's annoying as hell when the supports on your team doesn't get ward, and you as mid hero have to buy them yourself. Even worse when you have to buy BOTH courier and ward.



I didn't say it but the wards were constantly on even when he bitched, the team didn't follow him because he sprinted ahead into a 1vs5 while in a Dark Seer wall, Treant can't heal him when his shit is on cd, etc'

so...no, this guy was just a self entitled douchebag.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 13:56:38
July 04 2013 13:54 GMT
#12336
On July 04 2013 22:00 icystorage wrote:
esp when you are the only support and bought/flew the courier then mid complans 'we need wards' when you have 1 gg branch no boots


Mindblowingly annoying. I have literally been on one branch and nothing else at all and on something like 20 gold before today after buying courier, flying it, sentries to deal with invis and protect the carry and salves to feed to the carry and trading my life for theirs against ganks. Not to mention said carry killing the pulls I did.

Then of course mid goes "OMG NOOB SUPPORT. BUY WARDS!" -_-


Its even funnier (i.e. even more annoying) when you're having to heavily babysit the carry because of harrassment so you don't have time to place wards. So instead you buy them and put them on the courier and tell everyone they're on the courier and then nobody places them and you get yelled at for not warding.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
July 04 2013 14:34 GMT
#12337
On July 04 2013 21:39 Eriksen wrote:
I have a very simple QQ..

I know, it sounds like I'm a prick, noobie guy, because everytime the game starts: "I'm taking (bot/mid/top) lane, thanks =)" .
But, is it hard to understand that when someone called for a lane, it means he's literally taking that specific lane? Why would you go there too, when you know there are already 2 heroes standing at that lane (except you've discussed to do a tri-lane)? Is it that hard to be "kind" to others?


+1 to this

Yesterday I randomed Lion right away, nobody else was really picking except one guy on Witch Doctor, I think "Sweet I could go mid with this" so I say I'm going mid, nobody else says anything, I buy a Null and tango ready for my fast bottle and head to mid. Then seconds before creeps spawn a guy picks Pudge and struts up to the mid lane and he and Witch Doctor tell me to go lane and that "random doesn't get to say shit".

What the fuck does that even mean???? I conceded the lane since there was no point in fighting but I told them on voice that if they had a problem with me going mid they should've fucking said so before I bought fucking items for mid. Witch Doctor even had the fucking nerve to say "there's always someone being a pain in the ass... sigh". How can you be so fucking oblivious?

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The Pudge ended up going something like 10/1 and was playing really well all game but we lost because our only carry was my not-very-good-at-Dota friend on Weaver.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 15:53:56
July 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#12338
get in 1v1 fight for 1st lvl rune against BM as Axe - 8 hits, zero spins
two others come to help BM, my idiots are just idling zzzzz


zero spins....sometimes this RNG is so fucking retarded i swear to god
i wish they'd remove it from the game
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
July 04 2013 16:32 GMT
#12339
Played in a stack with guys from the TL guild. they were complete and utter trash. Who would'a thought?
Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 16:40:12
July 04 2013 16:39 GMT
#12340
On July 05 2013 01:32 SXGCoil wrote:
Played in a stack with guys from the TL guild. they were complete and utter trash. Who would'a thought?

I would'a thought. I suck myself. I only have time to play about 2-3 games in a day, and all of those are with noobs such as myself. I still like the game and I still like friendly people though.

When I get angry/sad over a game it's pretty much always because I'm doing bad myself. I can't be very angry at my teammates for not being more skilled than they are.

My own QQ is that I never seem to improve at this game, and therefore no one wants to play with me. :'(
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