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On June 29 2013 22:12 Ricjames wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 18:33 SKYFISH_ wrote:
furion is to blame because he is not soloing their raxes non stop!
nvm i started getting items at the 40 minute mark
nvm i never got any items for the entire game
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
srsly, this whole ''blame it all on the furion if he is in your team" mentality is pissing me off so much
OMG WHY NO TP TO KILL BOUNTY HE IS 2 HP LEFT?
because he killed you from the bonus damage from casting shadow walk and I'm lvl 4 in the jungle without detection?
OMG WHY ARENT YOU BACKDOORING THEM
because i went for necro/sheep build which doesnt give me much backdoor potential?
god these fucking retards, i swear to god
and now with the mute system im not allowed to say anything so i have to just stand there and take abuses for 20 minutes straight.
fuck this shitty game, honestly
SKYFISH you must be the King of QQ. I see at least 2 posts from you everyday :D On your topic - most of my pub games the Furions straight up suck and are to blame for the loss. It is like playing 4 v 5, cause all Furion thinks about is farming, stealing farm from carries and pushing towers despite us losing every teamfight we come to. Then they are not able to do shit to enemy carry anyways.
i just hope that he's not the type of teammate that when their team gives away firstblood then types 'gg wp' and afks in the fountain
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nop, instead of QQing ingame I QQ here 
i hope its not bothering you guys, its just my way of venting instead of raging ingame too much 
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On June 29 2013 19:06 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:48 Ryrmidon wrote:On June 29 2013 03:14 sacrilegious wrote:On June 29 2013 02:37 iokke wrote:
Don't abuse the system to report ppl for having a bad game. Viper disruptor lane isn't much easier for omni silencer than tree/am lane for your heroes imo (doesnt excuse them mass feeding). + a safe-lane in a pubs doesn't mean all that much if there aren't many ganks (well safety is closer still).
I also don't feel that AM shoulda free-farmed vs your lane even with living armor, but it does make it much harder to push him out. Anyway hope your lose streak ends, but "abusing the crap out of report system" is lame. Im sure you had similarly shitty games.
Actually I've been quite vocal about the report system in the past including its abuse for non-communicative purposes, on both playdota.com and dev.dota2.com. I've also asked for Valve to make better ways to improve the mm system and provide better knowledge about playing the game fundamentally (which include buying wards, supports not contesting last hits with your carry, creep pulling, and updating their item builds for almost all their heroes especially with crappy vanguard). They refuse to do it at this point, while leaving the report system open up for abuse. I've resisted the temptation to report with bias, but game after game despite keeping the search range down while searching for a game, it just takes 1-2 allies and bad early game from them to ruin trying to play the game in its entirety. Multiply that by 6-7 games in a row, then ask what difference is it between providing me with a bad gaming experience where someone is vocally or chat abusing me versus not even having some common sense (as I listed above) in this game and feeding 3-4 deaths the first 10 minutes of the game? On June 29 2013 02:52 Ryrmidon wrote:
Lol learn how to play
Misplay your lane, look for excuses, relieve yourself of any responsibilty, and bitch out your teammates because you think they didnt play well. You sound like an amazing person to have on a team
I guess it's pointless to have a discussion about any detailed aspect of the heroes, their skills, and the situations when I can see you providing awesome informative responses. Axe says: A good day to you sir! Well what do you want. 2 heroes with good range, enfeeble, consume, ice blast.... vs 2 melee heroes who have no skill that lets them harass and absolutely zero kill potential. If you didn't have a field day in your lane you're bad and you misplayed your lane, there's no excuse. Your argument is basically "living armor, look it up bro". Living armor shouldn't be enough to let antimage farm comfortably in that lane, and if he did then you should have played better. Also the MM system generally does a good matching you with players of your skill. Obviously you'll get an exception every now and then but in general it's not nearly as bad as people say it is. If you're getting queued up with certain players, there's a reason. If you think their fundamentals suck then they're probably doing well enough in another category to be queued in your games. If you're actually as superior to them as you think you are then you won't get matched vs players of that level for long. My word is by no means law here, but at least I play in the very high bracket so I at least I know something. But this is pure theorycrafting so take it with a grain of salt anyway. Id say that lane comes down to the treant more than anything. If he knows how to pull the wave towards their tower and control the lane in general and then uses it to go around behind you and try to punch you in the face with living armor and stout shield, I'd say he should be able to do a pretty good job of giving AM free, or at least good, farm. You cant manfight him and you cant kill him through armor + shield. A well timed offensive blink from AM could also suddenly make you have two melee in your face ready to punch you, which you WILL need to back off from. And once the PMS + RoH is up on AM (which he should get) hes pretty much unharassable and need to be bursted or wont die. Should, on the other hand, the treant not pull and generally just stay behind their lane (which you'll probably mostly see in the normal/high bracket), i suppose double ranged should eventually be able to outharass AM and force him back even through heals. My two cents.
Early levels of living armor shouldn't be enough to tank 2 ranged heroes and creep aggro enough to allow AM to farm comfortably. Lich / bane is a way stronger lane in the early levels so there's no excuse for not contesting the pulls either, not to mention Lich has sacrifice for controlling the lane. If you don't play aggressively the first ~4 minutes and don't level enfeeble then you'll have a hard time once AM gets sustainability items, sure, but that should never happen in the first place.
I mean I clicked on the guys match link just now.... he finished the game with 3 denies (and 3 on the Lich) so they clearly didn't play the lane well. His KDA at the end was 3-7-14....which isn't really far removed from Silencer's 3-10-18 (not to mention he had the easier lane). No ghost scepter vs an overfarmed antimage, no BKB vs Skywrath + Disruptor. Flaming and reporting other people for bad play when you played just as badly as them is obnoxious. Just another case of a bad player trying to blame everyone but himself.
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On June 29 2013 21:12 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 20:01 Animzor wrote:On June 29 2013 18:33 SKYFISH_ wrote:
furion is to blame because he is not soloing their raxes non stop!
nvm i started getting items at the 40 minute mark
nvm i never got any items for the entire game
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
srsly, this whole ''blame it all on the furion if he is in your team" mentality is pissing me off so much
OMG WHY NO TP TO KILL BOUNTY HE IS 2 HP LEFT?
because he killed you from the bonus damage from casting shadow walk and I'm lvl 4 in the jungle without detection?
OMG WHY ARENT YOU BACKDOORING THEM
because i went for necro/sheep build which doesnt give me much backdoor potential?
god these fucking retards, i swear to god
and now with the mute system im not allowed to say anything so i have to just stand there and take abuses for 20 minutes straight.
fuck this shitty game, honestly
Just mute them for god's sake. I just played a game where someone said something retarded in the first couple of minutes; I muted everyone because I just wanted to play without any bullshit. 45 minutes later we win the game and I am relaxed as hell because I didn't have to listen to any stupid shit. doesnt work. they take their bullshit to the allchat and soon enough even people on the enemy team are flaming you... back before this muting BS whenever something like this happened I'd simply return fire and I wouldnt be bothered because I knew at least those idiots were getting a hefty dose of their own medicine now I cant talk back because one report = insta mute
Then mute the other team...
BTW, I talk back 90% of the time and I tell them to fuck off, but I have never been muted.
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LVL 75 Player with 1500 games played picks Huskar in -sd last second when team already has LS, Drow, PA and OD. buys belt of giant strength and tangos and goes to offlane with drow. Goes insta treads, then buys S&Y and after that 2 bracers. Even tho that S&Y was kinda hilarious, that was nothing. Best part was that he didnt lvl burning spear and berserker blood, instead he maxed Inner Vitality and stats.... WITHOUT ULTI.
Just tell me, how is that fucking possible to play 1500 games and have no clue how Huskar works? Nowadays u see that hero every single game. And believe me, he wasnt making comeback or anything, over 100 games in last 2 weeks -.-'
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I'm mutarded. It's a mix of retard and muted, it perfectly describes me in dota. Hell this game drives me crazy sometimes.
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On June 29 2013 23:23 Ryrmidon wrote:
Early levels of living armor shouldn't be enough to tank 2 ranged heroes and creep aggro enough to allow AM to farm comfortably. Lich / bane is a way stronger lane in the early levels so there's no excuse for not contesting the pulls either, not to mention Lich has sacrifice for controlling the lane. If you don't play aggressively the first ~4 minutes and don't level enfeeble then you'll have a hard time once AM gets sustainability items, sure, but that should never happen in the first place.
I mean I clicked on the guys match link just now.... he finished the game with 3 denies (and 3 on the Lich) so they clearly didn't play the lane well. His KDA at the end was 3-7-14....which isn't really far removed from Silencer's 3-10-18 (not to mention he had the easier lane). No ghost scepter vs an overfarmed antimage, no BKB vs Skywrath + Disruptor. Flaming and reporting other people for bad play when you played just as badly as them is obnoxious. Just another case of a bad player trying to blame everyone but himself.
Dropped all this yesterday, until you just had to stir some shit up again. I had a whole paragraph written out just now to explain everything to you from the start of the game to the end in my perspective, then I decided to delete it because I don't owe you anymore explanations or my time arguing with you. Your last two sentences and other end statements are indicative enough of that you're essentially no better than I am in being a douche towards others, whether in game or not. You didn't have to respond in this thread, because all I wanted to do was "QQ" and vent in this thread after that match, as what it was meant for. Then instead you take everything I wrote (mostly my fault) and turn it into a personal bash fest just to satisfy your ego that you are right no matter what, but hey I guess everyone in DOTA including myself is always right on their views and everyone else who disagrees is wrong!
If you're going to crap on me again after this, do me a favour of either:
Don't bother responding, I'd rather just ignore you the rest of the way, or read and respond to my previous posts again specifically the highlighted parts.
On June 28 2013 11:25 sacrilegious wrote:So on top of feeding early on, Silencer does the following that makes me just facepalm... pulls creeps while Omniknight is solo'ing and dying, and does not even put a single point in Glaives until level 10. The amount of INT he could have stolen from about 4 kills during our teamfights in between that time would have put him back in the game, but nope stuck to maxing CotS after last word. Only items through the first 40 minutes were treads and aghanims (yes he rushed aghanims while feeding badly). Game went on and we made it close, but only because AM didn't push because Treant trolled. Eventually lost, bitched that Silencer some more for wasting my time. I swear to god if I wasn't out of reports I would have abused the crap out of that system and reported him with the bias knowing he was horrible and messed up my game right from the start. Oh yea that was like my 7th loss in a row in pubs http://dotabuff.com/matches/229726066
After re-reading this and what you wrote about 3 denies, it's because I stopped trying after the Silencer decided to noob it up and both our top and bottom lane being lost. Sniper's score is indicative of the entire team trolling around mid game onward
On June 29 2013 03:14 sacrilegious wrote:
Actually I've been quite vocal about the report system in the past including its abuse for non-communicative purposes, on both playdota.com and dev.dota2.com. I've also asked for Valve to make better ways to improve the mm system and provide better knowledge about playing the game fundamentally (which include buying wards, supports not contesting last hits with your carry, creep pulling, and updating their item builds for almost all their heroes especially with crappy vanguard). They refuse to do it at this point, while leaving the report system open up for abuse. I've resisted the temptation to report with bias, but game after game despite keeping the search range down while searching for a game, it just takes 1-2 allies and bad early game from them to ruin trying to play the game in its entirety. Multiply that by 6-7 games in a row, then ask what difference is it between providing me with a bad gaming experience where someone is vocally or chat abusing me versus not even having some common sense (as I listed above) in this game and feeding 3-4 deaths the first 10 minutes of the game?
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On June 30 2013 01:00 sacrilegious wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 23:23 Ryrmidon wrote:
Early levels of living armor shouldn't be enough to tank 2 ranged heroes and creep aggro enough to allow AM to farm comfortably. Lich / bane is a way stronger lane in the early levels so there's no excuse for not contesting the pulls either, not to mention Lich has sacrifice for controlling the lane. If you don't play aggressively the first ~4 minutes and don't level enfeeble then you'll have a hard time once AM gets sustainability items, sure, but that should never happen in the first place.
I mean I clicked on the guys match link just now.... he finished the game with 3 denies (and 3 on the Lich) so they clearly didn't play the lane well. His KDA at the end was 3-7-14....which isn't really far removed from Silencer's 3-10-18 (not to mention he had the easier lane). No ghost scepter vs an overfarmed antimage, no BKB vs Skywrath + Disruptor. Flaming and reporting other people for bad play when you played just as badly as them is obnoxious. Just another case of a bad player trying to blame everyone but himself. Dropped all this yesterday, until you just had to stir some shit up again. I had a whole paragraph written out just now to explain everything to you from the start of the game to the end in my perspective, then I decided to delete it because I don't owe you anymore explanations or my time arguing with you. Your last two sentences and other end statements are indicative enough of that you're essentially no better than I am in being a douche towards others, whether in game or not. You didn't have to respond in this thread, because all I wanted to do was "QQ" and vent in this thread after that match, as what it was meant for. Then instead you take everything I wrote (mostly my fault) and turn it into a personal bash fest just to satisfy your ego that you are right no matter what, but hey I guess everyone in DOTA including myself is always right on their views and everyone else who disagrees is wrong! If you're going to crap on me again after this, do me a favour of either: Don't bother responding, I'd rather just ignore you the rest of the way, or read and respond to my previous posts again specifically the highlighted parts. Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 11:25 sacrilegious wrote:So on top of feeding early on, Silencer does the following that makes me just facepalm... pulls creeps while Omniknight is solo'ing and dying, and does not even put a single point in Glaives until level 10. The amount of INT he could have stolen from about 4 kills during our teamfights in between that time would have put him back in the game, but nope stuck to maxing CotS after last word. Only items through the first 40 minutes were treads and aghanims (yes he rushed aghanims while feeding badly). Game went on and we made it close, but only because AM didn't push because Treant trolled. Eventually lost, bitched that Silencer some more for wasting my time. I swear to god if I wasn't out of reports I would have abused the crap out of that system and reported him with the bias knowing he was horrible and messed up my game right from the start. Oh yea that was like my 7th loss in a row in pubs http://dotabuff.com/matches/229726066 After re-reading this and what you wrote about 3 denies, it's because I stopped trying after the Silencer decided to noob it up and both our top and bottom lane being lost. Sniper's score is indicative of the entire team trolling around mid game onward Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:14 sacrilegious wrote:
Actually I've been quite vocal about the report system in the past including its abuse for non-communicative purposes, on both playdota.com and dev.dota2.com. I've also asked for Valve to make better ways to improve the mm system and provide better knowledge about playing the game fundamentally (which include buying wards, supports not contesting last hits with your carry, creep pulling, and updating their item builds for almost all their heroes especially with crappy vanguard). They refuse to do it at this point, while leaving the report system open up for abuse. I've resisted the temptation to report with bias, but game after game despite keeping the search range down while searching for a game, it just takes 1-2 allies and bad early game from them to ruin trying to play the game in its entirety. Multiply that by 6-7 games in a row, then ask what difference is it between providing me with a bad gaming experience where someone is vocally or chat abusing me versus not even having some common sense (as I listed above) in this game and feeding 3-4 deaths the first 10 minutes of the game?
The difference is someone who is vocally abusive does it on purpose, and hence deserves to have action taken against him. Someone who is bad at the game just doesn't know any better (If he does, then go file it under intentional feeding or ability abuse). Why is this hard to understand?
I'm responding to you because I feel like it had to be said. People like you are the biggest problem in the community. Trying to blame a game on somebody while ignoring everything you could have done better, and then flaming + reporting them for playing bad is obnoxious and ruins someone's gaming experience. Doing so while you yourself played just as badly is hypocritical. Implying you're consistently getting matched with players way below your skill level is delusional. Good day sir
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had my first game of Furion...it was pertty fun, except http://dotabuff.com/matches/230921924
it's one thing to have 5 carries - it's another to have carries that can't farm worth shit (also I picked first and bought the courier so I'm like...the least sinful there)
seriously the Sniper had...boots. At 12 minutes.
Mid Sniper.
Boots.
also the 7/14/7 safelane PA is my good real life friend. More of his games: Sven 3/15/4 (safelane farm), 2/11/11 Sven (suicide lane, we won this one with our ancient at half health), 2/15/11 Alchemist
pretty sure Dota is breaking our friendship
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On June 30 2013 01:00 sacrilegious wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 23:23 Ryrmidon wrote:
Early levels of living armor shouldn't be enough to tank 2 ranged heroes and creep aggro enough to allow AM to farm comfortably. Lich / bane is a way stronger lane in the early levels so there's no excuse for not contesting the pulls either, not to mention Lich has sacrifice for controlling the lane. If you don't play aggressively the first ~4 minutes and don't level enfeeble then you'll have a hard time once AM gets sustainability items, sure, but that should never happen in the first place.
I mean I clicked on the guys match link just now.... he finished the game with 3 denies (and 3 on the Lich) so they clearly didn't play the lane well. His KDA at the end was 3-7-14....which isn't really far removed from Silencer's 3-10-18 (not to mention he had the easier lane). No ghost scepter vs an overfarmed antimage, no BKB vs Skywrath + Disruptor. Flaming and reporting other people for bad play when you played just as badly as them is obnoxious. Just another case of a bad player trying to blame everyone but himself. Dropped all this yesterday, until you just had to stir some shit up again. I had a whole paragraph written out just now to explain everything to you from the start of the game to the end in my perspective, then I decided to delete it because I don't owe you anymore explanations or my time arguing with you. Your last two sentences and other end statements are indicative enough of that you're essentially no better than I am in being a douche towards others, whether in game or not. You didn't have to respond in this thread, because all I wanted to do was "QQ" and vent in this thread after that match, as what it was meant for. Then instead you take everything I wrote (mostly my fault) and turn it into a personal bash fest just to satisfy your ego that you are right no matter what, but hey I guess everyone in DOTA including myself is always right on their views and everyone else who disagrees is wrong! If you're going to crap on me again after this, do me a favour of either: Don't bother responding, I'd rather just ignore you the rest of the way, or read and respond to my previous posts again specifically the highlighted parts. Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 11:25 sacrilegious wrote:So on top of feeding early on, Silencer does the following that makes me just facepalm... pulls creeps while Omniknight is solo'ing and dying, and does not even put a single point in Glaives until level 10. The amount of INT he could have stolen from about 4 kills during our teamfights in between that time would have put him back in the game, but nope stuck to maxing CotS after last word. Only items through the first 40 minutes were treads and aghanims (yes he rushed aghanims while feeding badly). Game went on and we made it close, but only because AM didn't push because Treant trolled. Eventually lost, bitched that Silencer some more for wasting my time. I swear to god if I wasn't out of reports I would have abused the crap out of that system and reported him with the bias knowing he was horrible and messed up my game right from the start. Oh yea that was like my 7th loss in a row in pubs http://dotabuff.com/matches/229726066 After re-reading this and what you wrote about 3 denies, it's because I stopped trying after the Silencer decided to noob it up and both our top and bottom lane being lost. Sniper's score is indicative of the entire team trolling around mid game onward Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:14 sacrilegious wrote:
Actually I've been quite vocal about the report system in the past including its abuse for non-communicative purposes, on both playdota.com and dev.dota2.com. I've also asked for Valve to make better ways to improve the mm system and provide better knowledge about playing the game fundamentally (which include buying wards, supports not contesting last hits with your carry, creep pulling, and updating their item builds for almost all their heroes especially with crappy vanguard). They refuse to do it at this point, while leaving the report system open up for abuse. I've resisted the temptation to report with bias, but game after game despite keeping the search range down while searching for a game, it just takes 1-2 allies and bad early game from them to ruin trying to play the game in its entirety. Multiply that by 6-7 games in a row, then ask what difference is it between providing me with a bad gaming experience where someone is vocally or chat abusing me versus not even having some common sense (as I listed above) in this game and feeding 3-4 deaths the first 10 minutes of the game?
Dayum, just get over it already. You won't win against a stone-headed person. Guess he didn't read the thread title at all.
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On June 30 2013 01:21 hooahah wrote:had my first game of Furion...it was pertty fun, except http://dotabuff.com/matches/230921924it's one thing to have 5 carries - it's another to have carries that can't farm worth shit (also I picked first and bought the courier so I'm like...the least sinful there) seriously the Sniper had...boots. At 12 minutes. Mid Sniper. Boots. also the 7/14/7 safelane PA is my good real life friend. More of his games: Sven 3/15/4 (safelane farm), 2/11/11 Sven (suicide lane, we won this one with our ancient at half health), 2/15/11 Alchemist pretty sure Dota is breaking our friendship
Theres just nothing to do against Canc.., I mean Lancer with vanguard :dd
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On June 30 2013 01:21 hooahah wrote:had my first game of Furion...it was pertty fun, except http://dotabuff.com/matches/230921924it's one thing to have 5 carries - it's another to have carries that can't farm worth shit (also I picked first and bought the courier so I'm like...the least sinful there) seriously the Sniper had...boots. At 12 minutes. Mid Sniper. Boots. also the 7/14/7 safelane PA is my good real life friend. More of his games: Sven 3/15/4 (safelane farm), 2/11/11 Sven (suicide lane, we won this one with our ancient at half health), 2/15/11 Alchemist pretty sure Dota is breaking our friendship
LOL the last line, it kills me that I feel the same too everytime I have to play with my good, real-life friend but bad, retarded player in-game. Have to say that Dota breaks friendship, but it's temporary! Sometimes you just have to solo-play so nobody will get hurt
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On June 30 2013 01:36 Velzi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 01:21 hooahah wrote:had my first game of Furion...it was pertty fun, except http://dotabuff.com/matches/230921924it's one thing to have 5 carries - it's another to have carries that can't farm worth shit (also I picked first and bought the courier so I'm like...the least sinful there) seriously the Sniper had...boots. At 12 minutes. Mid Sniper. Boots. also the 7/14/7 safelane PA is my good real life friend. More of his games: Sven 3/15/4 (safelane farm), 2/11/11 Sven (suicide lane, we won this one with our ancient at half health), 2/15/11 Alchemist pretty sure Dota is breaking our friendship Theres just nothing to do against Canc.., I mean Lancer with vanguard :dd
or the double radiance build
for some reason Brood and Doom felt the need to BM me, too.
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the good news are that after my 10 loss streak last week, I'm taking losses much better now. Even if I lose, I either a)find something fun to do (courier sniping, breaking TPs, whatever comes to mind) or b) just realize that I kicked ass and it's ok to lose
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got put into low priority today because people reported me for farming with antimage
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On June 30 2013 02:31 nojok wrote:
dota deleted
you'll be back, soon enough
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On June 30 2013 02:31 nojok wrote:
dota deleted
Huh? Did you just uninstall it? Life must be so hard now.
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Those disconnects are driving me insane. Internet working completely fine, but no...no reconnect possible. FFS
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teamed up with a friend who was in LPQ:
they lvl 1 rosh (which surprised me, as I didn't think it possible with their lineup: luna, BM, treant, VS and Lich).
Our viper immideatly starts whining. Not a comment, whine throughout the entire game. Started with trash talk to enemy team, then trash talk to everyone in our team, constantly. Naix dies to neutrals in woods..not once, but twice. And then farms right next to the lane on 10% hp, so bm just comes in and oneshots him. Then viper dc's for 4 minutes and reconnects, then void dc's for 4 minutes, and reconnects.
"ez game" "easy noobs" from opponents.
Fun times
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On June 29 2013 22:54 SKYFISH_ wrote:nop, instead of QQing ingame I QQ here i hope its not bothering you guys, its just my way of venting instead of raging ingame too much
Man i feel you, i just got muted for 168 hours cause i said fuck you once the whole day. I have said a single curse whole day and i am muted next game. Sure i have been calling people bad or telling them their build is bad like that alchemist with vlads first item. I think these kids just report anyone who offend them. Despite me trying to tell them what they do wrong. I am done with this stupid bullshit mute VALVE SYSTEM for kids who like to cry and report everyone. Team in all pick game where we have 3 supports and not a single one buys wards or courrier. You tell them please buy .... and they tell you to buy it.
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