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On June 23 2013 15:09 Chrian wrote:
Am I the only one who wrecks with PA? Of the heroes I play most, she's got my best record by far.
On topic, man it is painful playing with friends sometimes. Guy who's still relatively new to the game decides in a random draft "I want to play nature's prophet!" and instalocks furion. He has never played furion. He immediately skills sprout at level 1 before anyone can tell him otherwise, goes offlane with a rubick to get level 2 so he can actually start jungling, then proceeds to do literally nothing the rest of the game. Ends a 45+ minute game 0-9-3 with hex, treads, basi. We didn't win the game. It wasn't close.
I'm not saying she's a bad hero, far from this i'm just on a terrible streak with her, even in games where i do well some things prevent me from actually winning the game (be it someone leaving for no reason, or feeding their carry etc..). Also playing frustrated made me play bad so that could explain partly why i have such a terrible record.
So how do you build her/play her? I usually go for mid game items ( no battlefury phase/drums/bkb instead) but it doesn't work out  .
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I got flamed in a medium bot game for afk farming the jungle because my team was losing to the medium bots. I think I am scarred for life.
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On June 24 2013 03:01 Jetaap wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 15:09 Chrian wrote:
Am I the only one who wrecks with PA? Of the heroes I play most, she's got my best record by far.
On topic, man it is painful playing with friends sometimes. Guy who's still relatively new to the game decides in a random draft "I want to play nature's prophet!" and instalocks furion. He has never played furion. He immediately skills sprout at level 1 before anyone can tell him otherwise, goes offlane with a rubick to get level 2 so he can actually start jungling, then proceeds to do literally nothing the rest of the game. Ends a 45+ minute game 0-9-3 with hex, treads, basi. We didn't win the game. It wasn't close. I'm not saying she's a bad hero, far from this i'm just on a terrible streak with her, even in games where i do well some things prevent me from actually winning the game (be it someone leaving for no reason, or feeding their carry etc..). Also playing frustrated made me play bad so that could explain partly why i have such a terrible record. So how do you build her/play her? I usually go for mid game items ( no battlefury phase/drums/bkb instead) but it doesn't work out .
Max dart first, put 1 point in Flash/Evade and the rest in stats/ult until I feel the need for a low CD Flash.
Items depend on how much presence you're looking to have early game. Early game fighting? Phase->Drums->Lifesteal/BKB/Basher. If you can get it in a reasonable time , Battlefury is good.
Shadow Blade if you follow the invisible = invincible pub rule.
and the most important thing - you gotta crit at will. Channel your inner Admiral Bulldog.
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I was wondering how OD could lost mid to QoP. He maxed astral emprisonment but kept using it on himself to dodge spells -.-.
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On June 24 2013 03:19 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 03:01 Jetaap wrote:On June 23 2013 15:09 Chrian wrote:
Am I the only one who wrecks with PA? Of the heroes I play most, she's got my best record by far.
On topic, man it is painful playing with friends sometimes. Guy who's still relatively new to the game decides in a random draft "I want to play nature's prophet!" and instalocks furion. He has never played furion. He immediately skills sprout at level 1 before anyone can tell him otherwise, goes offlane with a rubick to get level 2 so he can actually start jungling, then proceeds to do literally nothing the rest of the game. Ends a 45+ minute game 0-9-3 with hex, treads, basi. We didn't win the game. It wasn't close. I'm not saying she's a bad hero, far from this i'm just on a terrible streak with her, even in games where i do well some things prevent me from actually winning the game (be it someone leaving for no reason, or feeding their carry etc..). Also playing frustrated made me play bad so that could explain partly why i have such a terrible record. So how do you build her/play her? I usually go for mid game items ( no battlefury phase/drums/bkb instead) but it doesn't work out . Max dart first, put 1 point in Flash/Evade and the rest in stats/ult until I feel the need for a low CD Flash. Items depend on how much presence you're looking to have early game. Early game fighting? Phase->Drums->Lifesteal/BKB/Basher. If you can get it in a reasonable time , Battlefury is good. Shadow Blade if you follow the invisible = invincible pub rule. and the most important thing - you gotta crit at will. Channel your inner Admiral Bulldog.
i get phase->armlet->hotd->bkb
cheap damage for the crit, good armor and survivability.
an early point in evasion is a must, used to skill it last but I simply got destroyed without it.
the build works quite well if you dont have severely gimped laning.
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On June 24 2013 02:44 TheSubtleArt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 23:48 Warri wrote:
Randomed Necrolyte and went mid against their QoP. Our support Jakiro didnt buy wards, so i had no rune vision, our NP went clifffarming. Their tusk got an invis rune and ganked me with the second creepwave. He ended up getting every single rune and tower diving together with QoP, killing me multiple times. Still 0 wards, 0 tps. Meanwhile NP continues clifffarming, getting a glorious 8 minute midas despite going gloves first and never getting interrupted. After about 5 deaths by me, everytime to a towerdive by snowball>iceshell tusk with qop blink in NP starting flaming me that i shouldnt random in an allpick game. We were really behind, but with DS wall and our pretty well farmed Jugger we still had a chance to win the teamfight, however NP and Jakiro just gave up and started playing shit. Jakiro sold all his items and bought 20 chickens to feed the enemies even more. In the end NP had 0-11-1, Jakiro 0-9-0 and i had 4-22-6, with 13 kills on our team in total. Yet clearly it was my fault for losing the game... Most awful feeling mid is getting tower dived and your supports refuse to TP in
Try having a gyro solo long lane camp between your T1/T2 offlane towers for like 30 seconds and you're pinging like mad, but nobody on your team pays attention until AFTER gyro calmly walked his ass back past the T1.
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Playing support lategame vs. enemy e-blade Morphling is just depressing. Especially if said enemy is being a dick going "BG EZ GAME" at the end. This is pretty much the only thing in DotA, which continously drives me mad and makes me want to punch people.
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all you get these days are people spamming the chatwheel stuff. gg valve
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Seems like in the shit-tier bracket whatever now. I should stop giving in to playing support and let ppl who are unable to farm play carry.
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On June 24 2013 07:47 Talron wrote:
Seems like in the shit-tier bracket whatever now. I should stop giving in to playing support and let ppl who are unable to farm play carry.
it doesnt really matter what you play...
if you play carry your support steals cs and most of the time doesnt know how to keep the other guy out of xp range. of course he is also not buying any support items...
if you play support your carry most of the time is really really bad and doesnt know how to control the lane. he obviously will never buy bkb because its a pub and you dont need it against 5 stunners
if you play any other role you will most likely get flamed for not ganking all the time or the others lane start feeding and your game wont be very pretty.
at least thats how it went for me in the last 5-6 games
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On June 24 2013 08:07 TRAP[yoo] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 07:47 Talron wrote:
Seems like in the shit-tier bracket whatever now. I should stop giving in to playing support and let ppl who are unable to farm play carry. it doesnt really matter what you play... if you play carry your support steals cs and most of the time doesnt know how to keep the other guy out of xp range. of course he is also not buying any support items... if you play support your carry most of the time is really really bad and doesnt know how to control the lane. he obviously will never buy bkb because its a pub and you dont need it against 5 stunners if you play any other role you will most likely get flamed for not ganking all the time or the others lane start feeding and your game wont be very pretty. at least thats how it went for me in the last 5-6 games
Yes, this pretty much. Supposedly I'm in VH...even when I started out I didn't steal lasthits and shit, where do people learn that???
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Lastpick bloodseeker into a team thats already greedy as fuck
ok
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On June 24 2013 08:07 TRAP[yoo] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 07:47 Talron wrote:
Seems like in the shit-tier bracket whatever now. I should stop giving in to playing support and let ppl who are unable to farm play carry. it doesnt really matter what you play... if you play carry your support steals cs and most of the time doesnt know how to keep the other guy out of xp range. of course he is also not buying any support items... if you play support your carry most of the time is really really bad and doesnt know how to control the lane. he obviously will never buy bkb because its a pub and you dont need it against 5 stunners if you play any other role you will most likely get flamed for not ganking all the time or the others lane start feeding and your game wont be very pretty. at least thats how it went for me in the last 5-6 games
Clearly everyone except you is bad : (
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On June 23 2013 08:01 Jetaap wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 05:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On June 23 2013 05:33 DavoS wrote:On June 23 2013 03:59 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
dat last-pick PA Was the Loda wanna-be on your team or the enemies? Mine. Also we had a SA and a 4-man Brazilian stack. I'm 0-10 with her, i'm getting desperate. I was already 0-7 and got the stupid idea of first picking her until i won at least one game, did not turn out well. In particular there was 1 game where we had VS, warlock on hard lane and timbersaw on my lane.. He did everything to take last hits from me, while allowing their solo safe lane to have free soloXP and farm, as well as giving him a kill. I told him that if he continued to do that we had no chance of winning the game, but to no avail. After dying to the overfarm weaver I decided that i was wasting my time, so i tp back top to try and get somethings done. We get 1 or 2 kills but unfortunately they TP back and I end up dying, and my nices teamates start to accuse me of feeding. I got pissed so i blocked most of them and went to get what farm i could in the woods, while my team complained about me on all chat all game long. Clearly, the problem was me, not the timbersaw contesting farm on safe lane, or the VS going afk for 10 min in the middle of the game after flaming me for no reason, no of course not. Oh and btw "drums are useless on PA" (i went phase/drums). I think it was a bad idea, i'll get a stack next time i want to play PA.
This is definitely me at the moment. I think I'm like 10% on her or something. I'm not sure what it is. Like, I'm happy to accept that I suck, but so does everyone else; that's how dota works.
But PA, man. Idk. My being PA just causes my team to go full retard, in a way that no other hero is capable of. One of three things happen:
If we lose our 2v2 lane and I build a slow bf
1. "zomg noob PA no bf at 20 min report"
2. Team proceeds to afk jungle since, obviously, I can't be trusted to carry
3. Lose. My fault.
If we lose our 2v2 lane and I build midgame from behind to 5-man early
1. "zomg noob PA no bf 3 useless items report"
2. 5-mans repeatedly disperse without taking tower
3. Team proceeds to afk jungle since, obviously, I can't be trusted to carry
4. Lose. My fault.
If we destroy our 2v2 lane and I get early bf:
1. Team proceeds to afk jungle since, obviously, PA will be fat and we will win so they don't need to do anything
2. Enemy tears down towers and ganks me relentlessly, knowing I am ahead
3. I am no longer ahead
4. "zomg noob PA never play carry again report"
5. Lose. My fault.
I think I've given up. This doesn't happen with any other carry. Even AM is better, I think because people realise that am needs to be given space, but assume that PA can just magic money out of her behind while critting everyone in sight.
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Playing with meepo and disconecting all the time is like a hell...
I try to emulate something I used at W3 with meepo 1 at f1, meepo 2 at f2 than ctrl 1 for all meepos ctrl 2 for fist group of meepos etc etc, but everytime I had to reconnect I lost all my hotkeys setup
also, sometimes when I reconnect the protrait were bugged with my first and second portrait being just the first, oh shit..
Easily the worst game I have in months, so annoying t.t
edit: also, ensnare can't cancel life drain?
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Some odd QQ here, but just played a game (76..78 minutes or so) that we ended upwinning.
But god, it doesn't feel like it was worth it (game went long because we double raxed the other team, our DK's computer crashed 4 times, and they took aegis while he was DCed and bought 4 rapiers.)
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Got a solo queue CM. I honestly can't decide whether having an AFK captain is better than a completely incompetent captain. For the entire first ban phase, blue repeats "guys, please ban DS" "ban DS please" while all 4 of us were saying "your blue" "hey XXX, your captain, please do something". Instead, we end the first phase with a DS ban, and that's it. We didn't get our second ban. First pick phase the other team makes it clear they want teamfight taking mag and enigma. What do we pick? A lesh and a mirana. What do we then ban since they want teamfight? We (I mean blue who didn't know how to communicat with the team) ban all of the split pushers such as NP, AM and so on. In the end, our team looks absolutely pathetic with no teamfight capabilities, no setup disables for mirana and lesh, and just an all around awful lineup. The other team has a very solid lineup with whatever heroes they wanted since we were busy banning bloodseeker and SA.
I thought blue might be trolling since after the draft "We outdrafted them here so we should win this game easy". That "easy win" was made easier when he proceeds to feeds the first 3 kills of the game to their tiny.
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EVERY FUCKING GAME
Queue with a friend
We get an alchemist that buys blades of attack and quelling blade for starting items. 0 regen. Obviously it's complete shit at lasthitting. Plus he's peruvian. Who would have thought? I get first blood with veno somehow laning with this tard. He goes phase boots into vanguard into 42 minute ac. He gets 0 points in concoction until about lv8. spends more time acid spraying camps in the jungle than in lane so I die about 2-3 times until I just abandon it. shadowfiend loses mid to an omniknight some fucking how.
next game is single draft and the other team gets BB/Axe/PL/Bane/Kotl, fucking kill me
Our lina is the typical pub lina that goes arcanes-->AGHAMIN'S HUEHUEHUEHEUE and only ults when it will get him a kill.
Leshrac get phase boots and rushes bloodstone, idiot bloodseeker picker goes sny.
Can I get good fucking team mates every once in a fucking while?
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On June 24 2013 14:58 SXGCoil wrote:
EVERY FUCKING GAME
Queue with a friend
We get an alchemist that buys blades of attack and quelling blade for starting items. 0 regen. Obviously it's complete shit at lasthitting. Plus he's peruvian. Who would have thought? I get first blood with veno somehow laning with this tard. He goes phase boots into vanguard into 42 minute ac. He gets 0 points in concoction until about lv8. spends more time acid spraying camps in the jungle than in lane so I die about 2-3 times until I just abandon it. shadowfiend loses mid to an omniknight some fucking how.
next game is single draft and the other team gets BB/Axe/PL/Bane/Kotl, fucking kill me
Our lina is the typical pub lina that goes arcanes-->AGHAMIN'S HUEHUEHUEHEUE and only ults when it will get him a kill.
Leshrac get phase boots and rushes bloodstone, idiot bloodseeker picker goes sny.
Can I get good fucking team mates every once in a fucking while?
No.
Never. Not even once.
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So the game starts out with two people picking rubick and alchemist off the bat. I'm like aky, thats fine, but we need an offlane, so i decide to pick up a bounty hunter. after this, we just need one more jungler/support and a mid to make the composition good but what do they pick?
A PL AND A FUCKING SVEN. WHAT THE FUCK
On top of this, everyone else on this team fucking speaks spanish and the fucking Sven that I had to lane with spammed his stun for fucking last hits and rushed a fucking soul ring. Also the PL rushed soul rign and spent the whole game jungling. the game ended 14-43
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