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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
June 01 2013 16:59 GMT
#10981
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 01 2013 17:12 GMT
#10982
I swear to god if I like a hero I'm not allowed to win when playing him or her.

I love me some ezalor and when I play I feel like I usually do well laning but then fall off super hard (as kotl is supposed to) only to watch my team throw. I feel so useless.
dreaming of a sunny day
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 01 2013 17:20 GMT
#10983
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
June 01 2013 17:22 GMT
#10984
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 01 2013 17:39 GMT
#10985
On June 02 2013 02:22 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.


But doing it because people decided that they wanted to random?

Sorry but dodging is still wasting 5-10 minutes of everyone elses' time, and should mean lpq for people who do it.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Sycamore
Profile Joined January 2013
204 Posts
June 01 2013 17:46 GMT
#10986
On June 02 2013 02:39 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:22 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.


But doing it because people decided that they wanted to random?

Sorry but dodging is still wasting 5-10 minutes of everyone elses' time, and should mean lpq for people who do it.


It was 3 people in my team. Sorry, but i want to win.
Ban the Tree 2013
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44248 Posts
June 01 2013 17:48 GMT
#10987
On June 02 2013 02:46 Sycamore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:39 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:22 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.


But doing it because people decided that they wanted to random?

Sorry but dodging is still wasting 5-10 minutes of everyone elses' time, and should mean lpq for people who do it.


It was 3 people in my team. Sorry, but i want to win.

Go play Captains Mode.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 01 2013 17:49 GMT
#10988
On June 02 2013 02:46 Sycamore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:39 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:22 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.


But doing it because people decided that they wanted to random?

Sorry but dodging is still wasting 5-10 minutes of everyone elses' time, and should mean lpq for people who do it.


It was 3 people in my team. Sorry, but i want to win.


You could random 5 heroes and win, that's a load of bull and anyone with a brain knows it.
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 01 2013 18:10 GMT
#10989
On June 02 2013 02:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:46 Sycamore wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:39 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:22 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.


But doing it because people decided that they wanted to random?

Sorry but dodging is still wasting 5-10 minutes of everyone elses' time, and should mean lpq for people who do it.


It was 3 people in my team. Sorry, but i want to win.

Go play Captains Mode.


Who would be masochistic enough to solo queue on Captain's mode
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
June 01 2013 18:22 GMT
#10990
Not a game related QQ, but very upset that I can't locate more pictures of Hao. He's so pretty. No homo.
Long live the King of Wings
ShadoWYP
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany83 Posts
June 01 2013 18:35 GMT
#10991
Just played the most retarded game in my 2 months of DOTA 2. I am in solo MM, where I usually have awesome games and my team picks Phantom Assassin and Wisp while I pick Magnus telling all I will go mid. I go to the toilet and when I came back I saw the other 2 guys pick Puck and Viper. I'm like wtf and viper already begging to go mid while I tell him i wrote first that I will go mid.
Enemy picks are SD, Medusa, Wind, Naix, Slark (Dire).
In my mind I am thinking nvm those 2, will be ez game just get bottle arcane go rape them with op rp and then..... wwhwhhwhwhaaaatt da fuuukkkkk *Puck standin mid*. "Hey Puck, I already said that I will go mid, go with Viper". No answer.
Well K, so I walk mid with him till the creeps clash with Windrunner at the river till I say "fuck it, nvm puck is also really good mid and maybe he got some special tactics" While me and viper manage to survive the hardlane (against solo dusa), Puck doesnt seem to do well, always low health, getting killed once by Wind and even loosing courier to her. Still till 10 min no Gank or not even a try to move to any other lane. Meanwhile Slark solo kills PA and wisp 3 times ( How the hell is that possible?). Puck gets a DD rune and tries to gank top. While he totally fails to use his spells correctly (dream coil on 1 guy, never used silence) we manage to trade SD for Wisp, Viper, Me and Puck.. Not going even further how the game goes on but it ended 2:34 for the Dire ofc.

How the fucking hell is it possible to not have a brain and think hmm we got Magnus, PA and Wisp what I'm gunna pick hrhrhrhrhrh hmmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmm I could support my team with some awesome AEO heroes like Warlock or Tide, this will benefit our team very .... wowwowowowow wait wait I AM DA BOUS SUPPORT FOR FAGS SUPPORTERS ARE SLAVES I AM NOT A SLAVE I WILL CARRY THIS AND KILL EVERYBODY. CAUSE THATS WHAT MAKES ME PRO. MOAAR KILLS EQUALS HIGHER ELO YOLO. VIPER GOGOGOG A MOVE A MOVE EZ PZ.

Puck:
HMHMHHM that dude said he will go mid with mag. I could jungle so that other dude can solo with some solo hero or pick a support to do a dominating trilane which will give our carr..... W8 WOWOWO DENDI AND ALL THUS COOUL DOTA GUYS ARE MID. I NEED TO GET MID AND THEN WILL WIN THIS FOR OUR TEAM, FOK OFF MAG I WILL MID

I usually look what my mates pick and pick accordingly but I have been playing hardcore supports the last 10 games cuz of INSTA PICK LULZ ME CARRY THIS SHIT PL ANTI FUN picks. And thats why I fuckin get. Ima always play support fag role now. Atleast no worrys from the start of the game about who will buy a courier...
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
June 01 2013 18:52 GMT
#10992
On June 02 2013 01:25 Sycamore wrote:
Yes, only that those people who random a specific role which leads to the role not being playable for anyone else then, have a tendency to horribly underperform because they randomed and dont know shit about their hero/build/playstyle. At least that is what i experienced quite often. This is really frustrating if you wanted the role/hero yourself und would have known it better.


You make it sound like people that pick their heroes are always awesome at their particular roles lol.

I feel like I had the opposite experience. I solo queue 80% of the time and probably my first 250 or so games I was always the last pick and picked around the team. What is the result ? I played like 70% of those games as hard support, 25% as jungler or offlane and probably 5% carry and mid.

I don't particularly mind playing support, but it is frustrating to play support in solo queue for 200 games, people that first pick carries or mids think they are awesome but they oftenly are terrible and complete idiots, thus making it frustrating to play support for this kind of people.

As I don't feel I am entitled to tell people what to play or to pick around me, so the sollution is to random first. If i get a support i'll play a support, if I get a carry i'll carry (and I don't think im good or bad at any particular roles, but only on particular heroes, which I just might repick if they come along). I don't want to have to play what some random people in the internet think I should play and I don't think I can tell them what to play either.

Thus, for me either the team talks it out and comes to a role agreement for everyone prior to the picks (which is silly and unreal to expect in AP, if you want this go play CM), or people play whatever they want and deal with it. In the second case I think if the first 2 or 3 people randomed and the other picked around them would be ideal, as it would allow for reasonable team comp and no one would actually impose their heroes on the others.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 21:32:19
June 01 2013 21:31 GMT
#10993
Just had a game where I was bat rider and ended up participating in every single kill on my (obviously losing) team of beast, naix, wr, and morph. I mean there is so much burst and stun there, how fucking bad do you have to be to need bat rider to get even one kill? Fuck this game sometimes, seriously.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
June 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#10994
Worst fucking russian trio i've experienced in a long time. Nothing but feeding, building stupid items and fucking around. Please queue where you should and act like a clown there.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
June 02 2013 00:15 GMT
#10995
This is the second game in a row where I play decently (not even that great~ I'm not good as shown by my 46% winrate) and my team just goes super uber retard mode and loses the game... last game I was skymage and today i was bloodseeker... I started 10-1 as skywrath but no one on my team posted a better line than 1-4 in the mid game (we had 3 carries mind you... our last pick was a sniper pick) and we lost our early game advantage...
Today similarly, I was bs and I got first blood~ but then naga ulted past their t2 tower in an attempt to get an enigma who had blink dagger (so the blink just went off cd) and everyone died..
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 03:40:13
June 02 2013 00:55 GMT
#10996
All game long:
3 teammates speak pretty much 0 English all game (usual QQ but there's a twist, I promise). Tide and pugna buy almost no wards despite the pleas (Tide was actually asking for wards). Chat on the mic in foreign language. Tried to send me (randon pl) mid. anyway trying to communicate but no luck so it was frustrating.

Endgame:
"lol we trolled them so hard, sniper and pl think we don't speak English, idiots; we're from US/Argentina/whatever, and speak English fine. So trolled!"
Duh if you pretend not to speak english in a team game, I'll buy it. Wouldn't expect anyone to be dumb enough to troll like that.

this game sometimes, wtf.
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
June 02 2013 08:15 GMT
#10997
I think I've had more frustrating games with random friend games than the actual solo matchmaking.

Solo MM always pairs me with ppl on my skill lvl lately i think.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 08:22:15
June 02 2013 08:19 GMT
#10998
On June 02 2013 03:10 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:48 KwarK wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:46 Sycamore wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:39 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:22 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:20 LeLoup wrote:
On June 02 2013 01:59 EmilA wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:49 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On June 02 2013 00:05 EmilA wrote:
On June 01 2013 21:30 Sycamore wrote:
So sick of people randoming all the time in AP...just had to dogdge a game where 3 people on my team randomed.

"I randomed, now pick around me hurr hurr"
"And oh, it turned out iam awful with this hero"




I really, really hate piece of shit imbeciles who random sniper and tell their teammates to pick a support for them. If you cared shit about winning, you shouldn't random. Why should your team pick an optimal composition around you if you won't even pick an optimal hero for the role you want to play. God fucking damnit. Terminate dota.exe go next.


My QQ is about people like you. If you give a shit about optimal team compositions, there's lots of places you can go to play decent, organized matches. If you're lazy, and you want to play dota, and you decide to public match-make, you're going to have to accept that the rest of the world isn't bound to your sociopathic whims. We're not playing the game for you're enjoyment, we're playing it for ours. For people who've played dota for 6-7 years now, randoming throws in a bit of spice. I don't play allrandom myself, because team compositions can become pretty stupid an lead to unfun games, but yeah, if you queue public mm you have to accept that 1-2 people will, on average, random each game. Pick around it. I pick around it. Most people do it, and get by just fine. Hell, I even random quite a bit.

The thing about it is that those people who random accept whatever they get, too. They'd be perfectly satisfied randoming a support, and playing the role accordingly. What's the difference if they picked a hero, other than it's not a "tier 1 pick" for that role according to you? Picking only tier one heroes gets really fucking boring after awhile. There's a reason why dota is awesome, and it's because of the sheer variety of hero combinations you can make and use.

It's fucking dumb when someone randoms as the last pick on a team when they need a specific pick to make the team viable (e.g. a mid, a hard carry, a support, etc.), but other than that I have no complaints about randoming. It's a part of the game. You don't like it, don't play public mm, or go play random draft/captain's mode, or go scrim in inhouse, or go find friends to play with.

Don't bitch at people for enjoying the game in a perfectly legitimate manner and in a way designed and intended in the game. We don't have to satisfy your whims.


I think you've misread something somewhere. I have a problem with people who "want to have fun" by randoming and then feeling they can decide what the rest of their team should pick. I am not the person complaining about a poor composition, I have a problem with people who random (thus making it clear they "want to have fun" and not give a shit about winning") and then demand that the rest of the team picks win% maximising heroes.

It's fine that you want to play casually, but don't think you can decide what the matchmaking system is for and what it isn't for. When people feel like they sometimes want to play serious and sometimes don't, they mess up the team balance system entirely. I am sick of getting randomers in page 1 games who feel they should take on a pro gamer mid with bloodseeker.


I think he was talking about Sycamore.

People telling you what to pick is BS, dodging games because people randomed is also ridiculous.


I really don't think you can blame a person for saving 30 minute by dodging. When the team chat is full cyrillic and you're being called a son of beach before the game even begins, there's just no reason to stay. Though dodging should obviously be fixed.


But doing it because people decided that they wanted to random?

Sorry but dodging is still wasting 5-10 minutes of everyone elses' time, and should mean lpq for people who do it.


It was 3 people in my team. Sorry, but i want to win.

Go play Captains Mode.


Who would be masochistic enough to solo queue on Captain's mode


I've done it and had a captain ban randomly and pick the worst heroes ever. It was... "fun" playing in an antimage bristleback lane i guess

E: at the guy above, I like the level 12 shadow demon in the 42 minute game
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Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
June 02 2013 10:23 GMT
#10999
On June 02 2013 07:35 Grettin wrote:
Worst fucking russian trio i've experienced in a long time. Nothing but feeding, building stupid items and fucking around. Please queue where you should and act like a clown there.

After an abysmal game with a bunch of Russians on US East/West + English, I went on my troll account and queued Russia. Of course we get the standard no courier, no wards, no communication except chat wheel thing. I was going to do the retard item builds but since Timber and I (as Veno) dominated our lane, I decided against it. Especially when their sniper was so awful, he stood in the middle of team fight even after I dusted him. The idiot rushed shadowblade but never did much of anything with it. Not even escaping.

The funny thing was, a few people on the opposing team started talking in All Chat... in ENGLISH! Why-The-Face? People actually speak English on Russian server, and our team is decent - is this for real? Maybe I should queue Russia from now on. I was 11-0-11 even with 200 ping. Though admittedly a fluke since I could easily be placed on the same team as sniper.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
June 02 2013 13:14 GMT
#11000
Naix with Mjöllnir, Armlet, AC and Basher under the effect of Troll's ulti is so stupid. The animation even looks broken at that point. Even if I play that combo I feel bad. Doesn't matter how much HP you have or how farmed you are, he will murder you within seconds.
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