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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:02:15
May 16 2013 10:01 GMT
#10301
I won games with dagon 3 rush witch doctor mate(no wards ofc, finished 4-12) and lost while playing a free farm morph. I give up all my hopes on solo MM. I steal MMR from my good games and playing Robin Hood to complete noobs.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 16 2013 10:04 GMT
#10302
What is the difference between solo and normal queue?

SEA Server still laggy, Installed WTFast to help, didn't help at all. Got forced to leave.

Looked up US West for a game and man, laned against a tiny and a centaur and it was ugly, toss stomp = dead vs.
Back to Low Priority Queue again.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:10:51
May 16 2013 10:08 GMT
#10303
On May 16 2013 19:04 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What is the difference between solo and normal queue?

SEA Server still laggy, Installed WTFast to help, didn't help at all. Got forced to leave.

Looked up US West for a game and man, laned against a tiny and a centaur and it was ugly, toss stomp = dead vs.
Back to Low Priority Queue again.

Tiny/Centaur is a strong laning combo that you have to play incredibly safely against because they can go for kills from seemingly nothing. Only start being a bit more daring once you notice Tiny's mana starting to hurt as he is very mana-dependent early game. Once he has Arcanes you may have to completely abandon the lane though. Just try not to die and get XP, go to jungle or tell your lane partner to try and win the 4v3 in the rest of the game.

As for your first question, solo matchmaking puts you in games with only other solo people, whereas queuing in normal matchmaking can put you with/against stacks.
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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
May 16 2013 10:34 GMT
#10304
On May 16 2013 16:58 GraFx wrote:
FFS stop running a trilane just because you see pros do it. If you don't effectively know how to run one you're gimping your team and helping the enemy. So sick of losing games while people lose a lane 3v1 and then blame mid for not ganking or something. It's silly.

Playing with DK, CM and Jakiro go to safelane with me. Yurnero solo offlane, CM don't know how to make pull and don't stack or push another camp, Jakiro don't know how to zone, suddenly we take their tower and Jugger is level 6. Since we don't have more tower they get out of the lane letting DK level 4 vs Jugger level 6. Oh boy...
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 16 2013 10:40 GMT
#10305
On May 16 2013 19:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:04 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What is the difference between solo and normal queue?

SEA Server still laggy, Installed WTFast to help, didn't help at all. Got forced to leave.

Looked up US West for a game and man, laned against a tiny and a centaur and it was ugly, toss stomp = dead vs.
Back to Low Priority Queue again.

Tiny/Centaur is a strong laning combo that you have to play incredibly safely against because they can go for kills from seemingly nothing. Only start being a bit more daring once you notice Tiny's mana starting to hurt as he is very mana-dependent early game. Once he has Arcanes you may have to completely abandon the lane though. Just try not to die and get XP, go to jungle or tell your lane partner to try and win the 4v3 in the rest of the game.

As for your first question, solo matchmaking puts you in games with only other solo people, whereas queuing in normal matchmaking can put you with/against stacks.


So how do you do solo queue? Cuz I've always gone to "Public Match Making" and look up games from there.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
May 16 2013 10:43 GMT
#10306
On May 16 2013 19:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:04 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What is the difference between solo and normal queue?

SEA Server still laggy, Installed WTFast to help, didn't help at all. Got forced to leave.

Looked up US West for a game and man, laned against a tiny and a centaur and it was ugly, toss stomp = dead vs.
Back to Low Priority Queue again.

Tiny/Centaur is a strong laning combo that you have to play incredibly safely against because they can go for kills from seemingly nothing. Only start being a bit more daring once you notice Tiny's mana starting to hurt as he is very mana-dependent early game. Once he has Arcanes you may have to completely abandon the lane though. Just try not to die and get XP, go to jungle or tell your lane partner to try and win the 4v3 in the rest of the game.

As for your first question, solo matchmaking puts you in games with only other solo people, whereas queuing in normal matchmaking can put you with/against stacks.


So how do you do solo queue? Cuz I've always gone to "Public Match Making" and look up games from there.

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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 11:10:58
May 16 2013 11:02 GMT
#10307
fuck this shit. solo queue is actually retarded. its either play with a bunch of low priority skill lvled ppl, or play normal mm against 4-5man stacks.
wish valve would just get rid of solo queue altogether at this point
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
May 16 2013 11:13 GMT
#10308
Playing a stunning support who keeps a constant TP for saving/ganking other lanes and has decent map awareness has done wonders for my win rate, but God damn it makes the games you can't save so much worse.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 16 2013 11:17 GMT
#10309
On May 16 2013 19:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:04 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What is the difference between solo and normal queue?

SEA Server still laggy, Installed WTFast to help, didn't help at all. Got forced to leave.

Looked up US West for a game and man, laned against a tiny and a centaur and it was ugly, toss stomp = dead vs.
Back to Low Priority Queue again.

Tiny/Centaur is a strong laning combo that you have to play incredibly safely against because they can go for kills from seemingly nothing. Only start being a bit more daring once you notice Tiny's mana starting to hurt as he is very mana-dependent early game. Once he has Arcanes you may have to completely abandon the lane though. Just try not to die and get XP, go to jungle or tell your lane partner to try and win the 4v3 in the rest of the game.

As for your first question, solo matchmaking puts you in games with only other solo people, whereas queuing in normal matchmaking can put you with/against stacks.


So how do you do solo queue? Cuz I've always gone to "Public Match Making" and look up games from there.

[image loading]


I never actually noticed that button over there......thanks.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 12:24:44
May 16 2013 12:19 GMT
#10310
On May 16 2013 20:13 RockIronrod wrote:
Playing a stunning support who keeps a constant TP for saving/ganking other lanes and has decent map awareness has done wonders for my win rate, but God damn it makes the games you can't save so much worse.


yep, it's amazing how much TPs help you actually win games. Ever since I've started TPing for counter ganking I've been carrying way harder.

Dust as well. People legit don't know that there are detection items in the game, so they think invisibility = invincibility, which leads to easy kills. I've had a Riki report me for cheating (I dusted him a second after he left tower range)

oh right but this is the QQ topic, uhh

I get way too frustrated over this game. For something that's supposed to be an enjoyable past time, I get way too much into it. Played with a newb IRL friend. I explained what last hitting is for him, explained how important it is, he says 'ok I got it'.
proceeds to auto attack.
I wish I could just look at it and take it easy but I fucking want to win
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 12:56:37
May 16 2013 12:55 GMT
#10311
Just wow... I was playing luna ( we needed a carry after the first few picks) with a random shadow demon on safe lane. I assumed he would buy courrier, but no he just runs to the lane with no items whatsoever, so I asked him, "wtf shadow demon, you forgot to buy your items, and can u get the courrier please?".
But no, that was intentional. He explained that he was rushing arcanes. Like wtf?? Of course he proceeded to steal last hits (well, actually it's more wasting last hits since he prevented both of us from getting it) to get his beloved arcanes, then naturally he continued with pushing the wave with poison+ random auto attacks.

At least you could think that he would get some harass this way but no, he was never stacking poison more than 2 times. I tried to keep my calm and just explain why all of this was bad, but he started to argue with me (and the rest of the team). Apparently he was really confident in what he was doing...
This guy had 600 wins... how can you be so clueless after spending 1000+ hours on a game? If was not a big suprise that his most played heroes were bloodseeker spirit breaker and drow ranger...
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
May 16 2013 13:42 GMT
#10312
Heh, had a game where the guy with 450+ wins did not know how to swap hero. Probably trolling, who knows.

Once I actually played "support" PL after the shadow shaman kept insisting on last hitting. No points in hex. So I'm like screw this, let him carry. I upgraded courier, got wards and whatever. Didn't even care enough to be frustrated about it, or try to have pointless arguments with them. Game ended before I could complete mek haha.

I've also played support BH, but that was out of necessity. We had AM to carry anyway, and my job was to prevent the opponent Cancer Lancer from getting fat. Our bane repeatedly sleeping the targets we're attacking, even after being told not to do so. So frustrating. I ended the game with only 3 kills; but more importantly, the PL only had 252 gpm with tranq boots, drums, and diffusal at the end of a 44 minute game. Warded his jungle and track the fuck outta him. Our AM ate so much he was fucking obese! (in a good way of course)
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
May 16 2013 14:51 GMT
#10313
On May 16 2013 21:19 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 20:13 RockIronrod wrote:
Playing a stunning support who keeps a constant TP for saving/ganking other lanes and has decent map awareness has done wonders for my win rate, but God damn it makes the games you can't save so much worse.


yep, it's amazing how much TPs help you actually win games. Ever since I've started TPing for counter ganking I've been carrying way harder.

Dust as well. People legit don't know that there are detection items in the game, so they think invisibility = invincibility, which leads to easy kills. I've had a Riki report me for cheating (I dusted him a second after he left tower range)

oh right but this is the QQ topic, uhh

I get way too frustrated over this game. For something that's supposed to be an enjoyable past time, I get way too much into it. Played with a newb IRL friend. I explained what last hitting is for him, explained how important it is, he says 'ok I got it'.
proceeds to auto attack.
I wish I could just look at it and take it easy but I fucking want to win


What drives me insane is not losing, I don't mind the losing part... what makes me want to stop playing forever is the fact that so many players do not understand the most basic och basics, like last hitting for instance. Or, when my team consists of 5 carries, and someone blames me for not having as many kills or last hits as my team mates... which means people obviously do not understand basic economy in dota. Or when someone plays a carry and gets a positive score for the first time in his life and proceeds to blame the rest of the team for not being as skilled... as if it's difficult to play a carry in a pub game. Or, when someone thinks the team needs a TANK, as if we're playing World of Warcraft. Or, when someone last picks Spirit Breaker, Sniper, Bloodseeker or any other dumb pubstomp hero when we have 4 carries because they saw someone get 40-0 with it, but they proceed to feed.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
May 16 2013 17:17 GMT
#10314
On May 16 2013 23:51 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 21:19 hooahah wrote:
On May 16 2013 20:13 RockIronrod wrote:
Playing a stunning support who keeps a constant TP for saving/ganking other lanes and has decent map awareness has done wonders for my win rate, but God damn it makes the games you can't save so much worse.


yep, it's amazing how much TPs help you actually win games. Ever since I've started TPing for counter ganking I've been carrying way harder.

Dust as well. People legit don't know that there are detection items in the game, so they think invisibility = invincibility, which leads to easy kills. I've had a Riki report me for cheating (I dusted him a second after he left tower range)

oh right but this is the QQ topic, uhh

I get way too frustrated over this game. For something that's supposed to be an enjoyable past time, I get way too much into it. Played with a newb IRL friend. I explained what last hitting is for him, explained how important it is, he says 'ok I got it'.
proceeds to auto attack.
I wish I could just look at it and take it easy but I fucking want to win


What drives me insane is not losing, I don't mind the losing part... what makes me want to stop playing forever is the fact that so many players do not understand the most basic och basics, like last hitting for instance. Or, when my team consists of 5 carries, and someone blames me for not having as many kills or last hits as my team mates... which means people obviously do not understand basic economy in dota. Or when someone plays a carry and gets a positive score for the first time in his life and proceeds to blame the rest of the team for not being as skilled... as if it's difficult to play a carry in a pub game. Or, when someone thinks the team needs a TANK, as if we're playing World of Warcraft. Or, when someone last picks Spirit Breaker, Sniper, Bloodseeker or any other dumb pubstomp hero when we have 4 carries because they saw someone get 40-0 with it, but they proceed to feed.


Not to mention people NEVER carrying a TP (which is double frustrating if you yourself spend countless gold on them thinking it will pay for itself when you tp to a tower for ganks, to save people who are being dived or for teamfights. But end up not because of the reason just mentioned), not knowing how to counter invis (Here's a protip: if you're barathrum and up against 4 invis heroes..GET SOME FUCKING DUST!!!!111oneone), and not understanding how important warding is. "Dude, you have leik no farm noobz", that SURELY isn't because the enemy team constantly tries to gank me whenever I poke my nose out into a lane, and I never see them coming because there haven't been placed a single ward the entire game?!"..

I'm not expecting people to play perfectly every game, I sure have my bad moments too. But its incredibly frusrating playing with people who apparantly have +1200 games and doesn't know the basics of the basics yet.
nigsky
Profile Joined February 2013
United Kingdom114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 17:59:14
May 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#10315
Last night I played in a game that was so bad that I've decided to take a long break from Dota. Puck mid that maxes orb after silence then skipped blink so he could rush an aghi, a Drow that rushed morbid mask and 2 wraith bands before boots 1 and maxed frost arrows last (0-4 ten minutes in) and shit-talked the entire team in some nasally eastern european accent all while he was throwing the game, and someone who knew he would have to solo hard lane but insisted on picking a Sven (1-9 by the end of the game); we had a Doom and a Drow, and he wanted to go suicide lane Sven. He had played 1400 games and he still didn't understand why that was a bad idea.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/196342059

That's the worst game I've played in months. I felt like I was going to vomit. I'm going to wait for Keita League, and if that isn't any better than IXDL I'll wait for Valve to fix the mmr or go play something else.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
May 16 2013 18:23 GMT
#10316
I just had a game where our only carry was a skeleton king who just didn't have a fucking clue.

He ended the game with a power treads, a wand, and a soul ring (and a shitpile of deaths).

Guess his cs after 40 minutes?

->35
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 16 2013 18:34 GMT
#10317
On May 17 2013 03:23 BallinWitStalin wrote:
I just had a game where our only carry was a skeleton king who just didn't have a fucking clue.

He ended the game with a power treads, a wand, and a soul ring (and a shitpile of deaths).

Guess his cs after 40 minutes?

->35


if your only carry can't carry, it's time for you to put on some weight and start lifting.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 21:47:30
May 16 2013 21:43 GMT
#10318
I would like Valve to implement a feature that enable myself to know when I will suck so much at Dota that I will want to murder someone with my teeth.

Seriously, couldnt play too much this week, and every single game was complete shit :
- all random magic (4 intel with bad disable1 bad carry vs a metagame pick), but my mates dont want to play in all pick
- invoker pick repick meepo. Twice : one time mysefl, one time a friend. No I don't know how to play Invoker and Meepo; nor did he. See also the line above.
- games were I couldnt for the fuck of me place myself correctly in any single fucking fights, ramboing them carries or completely ruining my team's engagement
- countless opponent's heros running away with 10 hp or less (OR LESS) when kills are crucial and the only way to stay in game against a vastly superior lineup
- games were I buy over 9000 wars and sentries just to watch my team being raped away from the wards every time, staying at brown boots for 45 minutes
- a game with warlock against Rubick (I love this hero as much as I hate playing against him)
- then just after a game against warlock so I could ask myself why the fuck my ulti would do no damage in our previous game while this warlock trishotted me and 2 mates with his own ult like 4 times, ending up carrying his team with a 32 min agh/refresh
- countless keyboard/buttons brainfarts (pressing t instead of r for the entire duration of fight is not the way to set up a good ulti ; also stun then blink on ennemy is bad)
- putting wards in stupid spot because of being a complete retard and cannot even explain why (hello tower, take this sentry, it costed me 200 gold I just farmed with tremendous difficulties in the wood because it is infested with Bounty Hunters and I have a shitty support completely naked at 15 minutes of game)
- putting up a perfect 4 man black hole during a crucial push, our Mag skewer in .... aaaaaaaaaaand he has not enough mana to RP, full team dead on our side, 4 100 hp heroes running away with their gold on their side.
- and when we won, it wasnt funny because it was a complete stomp, to the point I was asking myself if the opponents just installed the game.



I might not play another game this week, it seems I enjoy watching games but I cant enjoy playing them. Should take a break of dota for a moment.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
May 16 2013 22:13 GMT
#10319
Well today I learned that I'm sometimes a judgmental asshole.

We had a furion off in forest freefarming. The dude speaks little to no english as far as I can tell. He starts off with a basi (which he leaves on) and 2 clarities. For about the first 30 minutes of the game he didn't even port in to defend towers and shit, instead preferring to sit on top of the ward spot and attack the radiant hard camp (he was farming the other jungle as well). I'm playing rubick, trying hard to keep myself alive with what feels like 27 gpm as well as keeping up wards, sentries, etc. I figure the game is lost once their drow ranger comes online and starts raping us.

Nope

Furion comes out the forest with somethink like daedelus, bkb, orchid, treads. Proceeds to kick the shit out of basically their entire team while I try (and fail) to steal tides ult for like the fortieth fucking time. I owe you an apology random italian furion. You are a good carry and a gentleman.
dreaming of a sunny day
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
May 16 2013 22:19 GMT
#10320
I don't want to play with guys, refuse to play the game and go jungle after someone didn't do what he said. I am out of my precious reports to send this guy to hell. These sub-humans don't deserve to play Dota 2.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
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