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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 09:20:34
May 05 2013 09:19 GMT
#9841
Why the fuck are people from COUNTRY X so fucking retarded, what the fuck is wrong with them, it fucking sickens me. Every fucking time I try to tell myself that i just notice the few bad apples, but every fucking time I get proven wrong.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 05 2013 09:23 GMT
#9842
Nyx is the hallmark hero to test the decency of your supports in team. Fact.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 05 2013 10:11 GMT
#9843
On May 05 2013 17:08 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 15:48 Entertaining wrote:
On May 05 2013 05:57 Excludos wrote:
Nyx can go outright FUCK himself.

Random DP and go mid vs Nyx. I don't do extremely well mid, but I'm not doing bad either. He returns around half of my nukes, and the rest I get through by faking a lot. We go about equal into the midgame (both in lvl and farm). I go gank a bit, and he goes gank.

Then starts the teamfights. Oh my fucking god how desperately fun it is to play against nyx with DP ulti. He goes out of control by simply sitting in the middle of the teamfight and press a button. On our team is a kunkka who never ONCE hit with his boat or torrent. He has a lone battlefury 30 min into the game..and then NEARLY another one at 45 min when we lose the game.

And then what happens? Nyx starts mouthing ME off! Apparantly I lost the whole game by going equal with him into the midgame. By not utterly dominating my lane, in his mind I lost us the game..and he still thinks Nyx is completely not broken in the least?

Seriously, if I wanted to win 9/10 of my games I'd just constantly pick Nyx. But Im really tired of seeing him and PA in every fucking game I go into.


I have the same amount of trouble with nyx. He goes mid, plays like shit, get absolutely no farm barely hits level 7 then proceeds to completely warp how the game is played. The supports literally can never be by themselves. If he gets an early dagon you might as well just sit under a tower all game if your playing a squishy hero. Even fed heroes better be out in 2's. Hero needs a nerf, its getting pretty stupid.


Just because nyx owns in pub games dosent mean hes OP. It is very easy to deal with him if your team works well together and buys sentries.

If you nerf him, he wouldnt even be used in competitive games anymore.


Who cares, nobody is gonna miss him.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
May 05 2013 12:53 GMT
#9844
Incredibly close game were team fights are decided pretty much by who's defending because double double Warlock and Chrono (me), but we eventually manage to get megas by split pushing. They're slowly being whittled down by megas, and we can just farm, either until we can decisively win a team fight, or until they try to push out against megas and we can wipe them and push.
Nope, 3 people on my team suicide into their base, die, flame me for not pushing, and then drop my MKB off the courier (against a PA and Halberd CK).
We only won because they pushed in 3v5 and lost half their team, and the supports staying behind died to neutrals.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
May 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#9845
On May 05 2013 21:53 RockIronrod wrote:
Incredibly close game were team fights are decided pretty much by who's defending because double double Warlock and Chrono (me), but we eventually manage to get megas by split pushing. They're slowly being whittled down by megas, and we can just farm, either until we can decisively win a team fight, or until they try to push out against megas and we can wipe them and push.
Nope, 3 people on my team suicide into their base, die, flame me for not pushing, and then drop my MKB off the courier (against a PA and Halberd CK).
We only won because they pushed in 3v5 and lost half their team, and the supports staying behind died to neutrals.


Whats ironic here is that they died to the exact same mistake your team did earlier..
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#9846
On May 05 2013 21:57 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 21:53 RockIronrod wrote:
Incredibly close game were team fights are decided pretty much by who's defending because double double Warlock and Chrono (me), but we eventually manage to get megas by split pushing. They're slowly being whittled down by megas, and we can just farm, either until we can decisively win a team fight, or until they try to push out against megas and we can wipe them and push.
Nope, 3 people on my team suicide into their base, die, flame me for not pushing, and then drop my MKB off the courier (against a PA and Halberd CK).
We only won because they pushed in 3v5 and lost half their team, and the supports staying behind died to neutrals.


Whats ironic here is that they died to the exact same mistake your team did earlier..

Which is why you should never ragequit or DC before the game is over.
Remember; the other team most likely has at least one glue-sniffing retard, even if they're winning
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 13:06:53
May 05 2013 13:05 GMT
#9847
On May 05 2013 17:57 hacklebeast wrote:
He's just bad hero design. Yea, you can counter him by staying together and warding, then his only contribution to the game is a pretty good stun. Otherwise he snowballs and just dominates everything. That's it. He is either irrelevant or absolutely everything, nothing in between.

The entire design of the hero is to prevent you from interacting with him. He is built to burst down heroes and kill them before the initial stun has warn off, and if the target lives, or there are other heores around, the carapace forces you to not interact. Why would you make a hero that is designed to not allow players to play the game? Arguably there are other heroes that encourage inaction (naga and silencer ults come to mind). But not only is that not the entire motif those heroes are set up around, but that inaction is used to set up more action. Nyx's inaction is either to end combat instantly (stuns/nukes) or it is to prevent combat form starting in the first place (carapace/invis).

I don't care if nyx is imba or not, and I'm not explicitly saying he is. The numbers associated with the abilities isn't the problem, but rather the nature of the spells instead.


Even if the ennemy team has detection and you cant use vendetta, there is much more to nyx than his stun. Carapace is a good counter to mass aoe initiation, and mana burn with a 4sec cd is absolutetly ridiculous.I remember a game where i was playing void and mana burn made my jump into fights only to find out that i did not have enough mana to cast my ult.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
May 05 2013 13:12 GMT
#9848
I agree the biggest problem with Nyx is the mana burn - try playing a lategame Storm or OD or something these days. You will get hit for like 800, and at a such short cd. These two heroes happen to be among my favourites and getting away with playing is pretty tough with Nyx's popularity being what it is. Carapace is of course also an extremely annoying spell, and I think more likely of being adjusted next Dota map, but it doesn't at all tickle my QQ bone like mana burn does.
4mgg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland373 Posts
May 05 2013 13:53 GMT
#9849
I was playing alch. Team lost. I got flamed by allies for farming first 20 minutes.
(We didnt stand a chance at defending towers so I decided not to tp to die / feed). We lost 3 towers during that time, and some teammates were standing steadily at 10-12 deaths.
People drive me crazy sometimes.
PL #4 fan
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
May 05 2013 14:10 GMT
#9850
On May 05 2013 22:53 4mgg wrote:
I was playing alch. Team lost. I got flamed by allies for farming first 20 minutes.
(We didnt stand a chance at defending towers so I decided not to tp to die / feed). We lost 3 towers during that time, and some teammates were standing steadily at 10-12 deaths.
People drive me crazy sometimes.

In your case you were probably right farming although I can understand how frustrating a 4v5 can be. I recently had a game with lone druid in our team who farmed for 35 minutes completly ignoring anything happening on the map. Finally when our ancient had like 50% health he comes back home and dies to the enemy team. He was pretty well farmed though...
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
May 05 2013 18:16 GMT
#9851
Just played with a guy who built Vanguard first on Juggernaut. He also refused to take safe lane farm. He had over 400 wins. What the hell...
twitch.tv/crayhasissues ||| @crayhasissues on twitter ||| Dota 2 Streamer that loves to help new players!
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 05 2013 18:33 GMT
#9852
A few days ago i played with a batrider who insisted on going BOT --> vanguard --> bkb before getting a blink dagger. He never got one. We lost the game at 46 minutes in and it would have been REALLY NICE if he could have actually done even a single useful initiation. He kept saying that blink dagger would be useless without bkb because he would just get stunned...the only stuns the enemy team had were necrolyte ult and naix stuns from basher, both of which go through bkb.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
LmaOLyCaN
Profile Joined December 2012
Peru10 Posts
May 05 2013 20:59 GMT
#9853
I hate mute, i love to QQ against noobs, i seriously HATE people that even when i'm muted and i'm going to gank as pudge they stay at the back i ping 2 times the hero who i'm going to hook and they voice chat: wtf do you want pudge?, stop pinging.

and then i die because his ally goes to help him and i'm alone against 2 guys and the 2 retards at bot just don't do anything at all and stay watching (and yeah to finish it, AFTER i die, everyone tp's bot and kill them, obviously i end up losing gold and a bad score and they end up complaining on me, even tho i haven't missed a single hook...)...
What would be a Huntress without a hunted
Prophanity
Profile Joined January 2012
United States165 Posts
May 05 2013 21:42 GMT
#9854
[image loading]]

I'll just leave this here with the idea that people are bungholes.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 05 2013 21:43 GMT
#9855
On May 05 2013 15:48 Entertaining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 05:57 Excludos wrote:
Nyx can go outright FUCK himself.

Random DP and go mid vs Nyx. I don't do extremely well mid, but I'm not doing bad either. He returns around half of my nukes, and the rest I get through by faking a lot. We go about equal into the midgame (both in lvl and farm). I go gank a bit, and he goes gank.

Then starts the teamfights. Oh my fucking god how desperately fun it is to play against nyx with DP ulti. He goes out of control by simply sitting in the middle of the teamfight and press a button. On our team is a kunkka who never ONCE hit with his boat or torrent. He has a lone battlefury 30 min into the game..and then NEARLY another one at 45 min when we lose the game.

And then what happens? Nyx starts mouthing ME off! Apparantly I lost the whole game by going equal with him into the midgame. By not utterly dominating my lane, in his mind I lost us the game..and he still thinks Nyx is completely not broken in the least?

Seriously, if I wanted to win 9/10 of my games I'd just constantly pick Nyx. But Im really tired of seeing him and PA in every fucking game I go into.


I have the same amount of trouble with nyx. He goes mid, plays like shit, get absolutely no farm barely hits level 7 then proceeds to completely warp how the game is played. The supports literally can never be by themselves. If he gets an early dagon you might as well just sit under a tower all game if your playing a squishy hero. Even fed heroes better be out in 2's. Hero needs a nerf, its getting pretty stupid.

DP's spirits actually focus your right-click target. A lot of people don't know this and just leave their spirits to attack whatever. You have to be fast, but if you get a right-click command off, they won't "randomly" attack Nyx.

You should also have Eul's or BKB for teamfighting against Nyx. It's too much of a nightmare not to have either vs. him to eat the Carapace stun.

Honestly though, going even as DP against Nyx is pretty good, seeing as it's really easy to carapace Locust Swarm.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
May 05 2013 22:31 GMT
#9856
I am sick of Valve and their shitty system. I am so frustrated right now, I couldn't express my feelings. I did everything to stay and win the game, but nah. Some games are unplayable also beyond winnable. I am sick of people don't know how to position themselves but run into the fight with CM to until then die in two hits. Valve should consider(I am pretty sure they are not capable of this) putting an idiot measurement test before the first game with questions like 'when you are support, what do you do? ' answers: 'a-run like an idiot to fight and ulti b-stay behind in position and use my spell according to fight c-buy damage items and fight'

I got a new idea. Why not we prepare same kind of quiz for Valve(I am pretty sure they fail) then they will hire some real and experienced matchmaking programmers if they lose. Then we can play some games in happiness. Why not Valve accept they have no experience on this and take some consult from outside. You just suck at this Valve, you take the game, did nice job with graphics, engine etc but really, utterly fucked with MM. Just take some help OK?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
May 05 2013 22:50 GMT
#9857
meh.. Naix needs a nerf. I'm so sick of seeing him in so many pro games, and he's way too hard to deal with in pubs
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 05 2013 22:57 GMT
#9858
So sick of playing naix or pl in pubs. it is really hand to handle those heroes without proper communication TT
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 05 2013 22:59 GMT
#9859
On May 05 2013 17:08 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 15:48 Entertaining wrote:
On May 05 2013 05:57 Excludos wrote:
Nyx can go outright FUCK himself.

Random DP and go mid vs Nyx. I don't do extremely well mid, but I'm not doing bad either. He returns around half of my nukes, and the rest I get through by faking a lot. We go about equal into the midgame (both in lvl and farm). I go gank a bit, and he goes gank.

Then starts the teamfights. Oh my fucking god how desperately fun it is to play against nyx with DP ulti. He goes out of control by simply sitting in the middle of the teamfight and press a button. On our team is a kunkka who never ONCE hit with his boat or torrent. He has a lone battlefury 30 min into the game..and then NEARLY another one at 45 min when we lose the game.

And then what happens? Nyx starts mouthing ME off! Apparantly I lost the whole game by going equal with him into the midgame. By not utterly dominating my lane, in his mind I lost us the game..and he still thinks Nyx is completely not broken in the least?

Seriously, if I wanted to win 9/10 of my games I'd just constantly pick Nyx. But Im really tired of seeing him and PA in every fucking game I go into.


I have the same amount of trouble with nyx. He goes mid, plays like shit, get absolutely no farm barely hits level 7 then proceeds to completely warp how the game is played. The supports literally can never be by themselves. If he gets an early dagon you might as well just sit under a tower all game if your playing a squishy hero. Even fed heroes better be out in 2's. Hero needs a nerf, its getting pretty stupid.


Just because nyx owns in pub games dosent mean hes OP. It is very easy to deal with him if your team works well together and buys sentries.

If you nerf him, he wouldnt even be used in competitive games anymore.


Yea Nyx is only a pub stomper, its not like hes been a consistent first round pick / ban for months now or anything
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 23:00:46
May 05 2013 23:00 GMT
#9860
On May 06 2013 07:50 Quotidian wrote:
meh.. Naix needs a nerf. I'm so sick of seeing him in so many pro games, and he's way too hard to deal with in pubs

Hardly any1 gets ghost scepter in normal queue lol. I swear if it was a recommended item on more supports, heroes like naix would do a lot worse in pubs
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