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BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
April 24 2013 12:58 GMT
#9461
Just played a game where our two carries (slark and slardar, poor carries themselves, I know) BOTH got a fucking vanguard.

Against a bristleback.

Yeah we lost. No damage ftw.

Man I am in a low bracket now....
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 24 2013 15:16 GMT
#9462
On April 24 2013 20:53 Canas wrote:
I swear everyone who's not in the top 0.1% of matchmaking is fucking trash at this game, holy fucking shit how fucking difficult can it be to win the game when I basically just wreck everyone on their team for the first 25 minutes, but npoe, my team starts relentlessly fucking throwing

Well, that implies that you aren't at the top .1% of matchmaking either..

So...

Dunning Kruger?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 24 2013 15:20 GMT
#9463
I really really wish there was a way to not play with the same moron multiple games in a row. I guess I could just wait 5 minutes to queue but when I'm mad about a bad dota game I just want a GOOD dota game not to wait 5 minutes and cool off
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Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
April 24 2013 15:31 GMT
#9464
On April 24 2013 21:09 Belisarius wrote:
At the moment, I wish the jungle didn't even exist.


Yeah, it seems like in pub games 99% of the time anyone jungling just means that they afk farm while every lane gets lost. Pub junglers never come out for ganks, never look out for ganks when the enemy is obviously roaming to them and missing has been called... The jungle just seems like a haven for bad players a lot of the time.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
April 24 2013 15:33 GMT
#9465
On April 25 2013 00:16 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 20:53 Canas wrote:
I swear everyone who's not in the top 0.1% of matchmaking is fucking trash at this game, holy fucking shit how fucking difficult can it be to win the game when I basically just wreck everyone on their team for the first 25 minutes, but npoe, my team starts relentlessly fucking throwing

Well, that implies that you aren't at the top .1% of matchmaking either..

So...

Dunning Kruger?


I'm fucking trash because I can't carry vs absolute garbage tier players no matter how well I play
Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
April 24 2013 15:37 GMT
#9466
On April 25 2013 00:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
I really really wish there was a way to not play with the same moron multiple games in a row. I guess I could just wait 5 minutes to queue but when I'm mad about a bad dota game I just want a GOOD dota game not to wait 5 minutes and cool off


The upside of this is that sometimes they're on the other team, and you get to take revenge for the previous game by feeding off of them.

For example, the Tiny/Ogre Magi from this game
http://dotabuff.com/matches/179415967

Were the same 2 friends as the Meepo/Sven from this game
http://dotabuff.com/matches/179426576

So after they basically singlehandedly fed away one game of mine, I at least got the satisfaction of stomping the shit out of them the next game.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 24 2013 15:56 GMT
#9467
This game : http://dotabuff.com/matches/179915932

I was leshrac and got most cs of my team. Look at LH and DN scores and tell me I am suffering Dunning-Kruger
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 24 2013 16:06 GMT
#9468
On April 25 2013 00:37 Chrian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
I really really wish there was a way to not play with the same moron multiple games in a row. I guess I could just wait 5 minutes to queue but when I'm mad about a bad dota game I just want a GOOD dota game not to wait 5 minutes and cool off


The upside of this is that sometimes they're on the other team, and you get to take revenge for the previous game by feeding off of them.

For example, the Tiny/Ogre Magi from this game
http://dotabuff.com/matches/179415967

Were the same 2 friends as the Meepo/Sven from this game
http://dotabuff.com/matches/179426576

So after they basically singlehandedly fed away one game of mine, I at least got the satisfaction of stomping the shit out of them the next game.


Well yeah, but sometimes you re-queue and get the morons on your team again while that one nice/skilled guy from your team is now the opponent...

All I ask is like a button that says "I never wish to be on this player's team again. Seriously!". Ah well.
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
April 24 2013 16:06 GMT
#9469
On April 25 2013 00:56 Laserist wrote:
This game : http://dotabuff.com/matches/179915932

I was leshrac and got most cs of my team. Look at LH and DN scores and tell me I am suffering Dunning-Kruger


Seems like a poor example considering your team had pretty poor heroes for farming in general and that you had just about the worst KDA in your team and didn't even seem to be playing support.

Just based on that dotabuff link I'd say Zeus/Rubick/SM outperformed you there, Rubick gets bonus points for carrying Wards and SM/Zeus just had way better KDA.

Huskar could have farmed more, died less and bought lifesteal item I guess.

In any case I wouldn't say you were placed in a team clearly below your skill level, just based on that dotabuff link.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
April 24 2013 16:20 GMT
#9470
On April 25 2013 00:56 Laserist wrote:
This game : http://dotabuff.com/matches/179915932

I was leshrac and got most cs of my team. Look at LH and DN scores and tell me I am suffering Dunning-Kruger

Doing really poorly and still blaming your team? lol
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:41:35
April 24 2013 16:20 GMT
#9471
CK wisp combo + nyx in ennemy team, we obviously get destroyed. Result : flame the support Chen who grab the 3 first kill of the game for his team

edit : next game AR, they let me solo bot vs weaver as meepo oh god what a bad day
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
April 24 2013 16:26 GMT
#9472
On April 25 2013 00:56 Laserist wrote:
This game : http://dotabuff.com/matches/179915932

I was leshrac and got most cs of my team. Look at LH and DN scores and tell me I am suffering Dunning-Kruger


you kinda are
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
April 24 2013 16:33 GMT
#9473
On April 25 2013 00:56 Laserist wrote:
This game : http://dotabuff.com/matches/179915932

I was leshrac and got most cs of my team. Look at LH and DN scores and tell me I am suffering Dunning-Kruger


I watched the game, and the number of times you ks'd creeps from your carry/semi-carries was pretty staggering.

I'd say you played as if you were a 1 position, and had the most cs because of it.

You also bought back only to die again, and lost a big part of your farm.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:06:56
April 24 2013 17:04 GMT
#9474
I just played with a vanguard anti mage who opened every fight with his ulti lol....it continues..dont knw what happened, maybe a new bunch of people got beta keys. Cant be too hard to just read what a skill is supposed to do.

The weird part is, he actually knew how to pull and stuff...lol
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:16:35
April 24 2013 17:10 GMT
#9475
My QQ:
I was AM, my lane partner was SD and we were vs Spectre and WR. SD starts pulling right from min 1 and I lose all my regen before the 3 min mark because of WR harassment. I ask SD if he can come on the lane to help me and he answer saying that SD can't do shit in the laning phase ( mkay). I couldn't farm so I decided to skip bfury and go vanguard/yasha just to have some "early killing power". Game was going nice even though we were behind from the beginning. We lose 2 sets of rax but we almost manage to win thanks to some nice split pushing. Team blame me for the loss. GG.

On April 25 2013 02:04 dartoo wrote:
I just played with a vanguard anti mage who opened every fight with his ulti lol....it continues..dont knw what happened, maybe a new bunch of people got beta keys. Cant be too hard to just read what a skill is supposed to do.

The weird part is, he actually knew how to pull and stuff...lol


wut there is nothing wrong with vanguard on antimage if he can't farm a bfury fast enough or if the enemy team is pushing your base early.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
April 24 2013 18:05 GMT
#9476
As bad as vanguard is in most games, i think his point was mostly the "opening every fight with his ulti" part
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SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
April 24 2013 18:09 GMT
#9477
I'd personally go for Vlads on Magina if the early game isnt progressing well.
Should give your roughly the same survivability all around
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 18:15:36
April 24 2013 18:15 GMT
#9478
On April 25 2013 03:09 SKYFISH_ wrote:
Vlads on Magina...
Should give your roughly the same survivability all around

What? no...

Doesn't make vanguard good but vlads is *0* survivability until at least bfury + yasha are done. Even then the lifesteal isn't really insane since a lot of your damage is the mana burn. Vanguard at least offers 250 HP.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 24 2013 18:32 GMT
#9479
I've seen some AM do well with early vanguard if the ennemy team goes for 5 man doto before min 10 & his team needs him but the transition is hard.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
April 24 2013 18:37 GMT
#9480
If you really really really need early survivability and are willing to gimp your farm a bit to do so, instead of going for vlads (which is basically zero value until you deal a lot of damage) or making a vanguard (which suffers from a bad case of "is vanguard") you should make drums of endurance and power treads. It'll tank you up, make you a bit faster, and hit a little bit harder. The Drums are like half a yasha and half a vanguard and are made out of small, easily-affordable pieces, and the power treads will make you better in combat.

This is not a good build for farming, or for the lategame, or really at all, but if you have a hard carry and you need to go be in combat NOW and have like no money, you can build those items and go and be useful. It's also way better than trying to rush vanguard or vlads to be effective early.
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