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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
Playing afterwards puts me on a team with a 28 win player, a 19 win player, a 33 win player, and a KotL who was probably the best player in the game. Oh the other team, 5 stack who had 110, 264, 167, 214, and "56" Someone please tell me how I'm supposed to win this? Because honestly I don't see how this is even close to fair.... | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 31 2013 13:01 iokke wrote: so if the game gets abandoned at the start (safe to leave), but he leaver comes back 6 minutes later, and you leave anyway the game counts? only game we were winning today but thought it wouldnt count so I left qq Safe to leave doesn't mean it won't count as a loss--it means it won't count as an abandon. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On March 31 2013 13:04 leloup wrote: Stacking gets me to high bracket... Playing afterwards puts me on a team with a 28 win player, a 19 win player, a 33 win player, and a KotL who was probably the best player in the game. Oh the other team, 5 stack who had 110, 264, 167, 214, and "56" Someone please tell me how I'm supposed to win this? Because honestly I don't see how this is even close to fair.... The currunt theory is that the wins dont matter,it averages out the mmr of the team. If you and kotl have high mmr, and it finds two others with low, it takes the average of it and compares it to the other team, who might all be between better than the two bad players on your side. So you end up getting matches with crappy people for whom the system thinks you can compensate for...but most cases it is too much. | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On March 31 2013 13:09 TheYango wrote: Safe to leave doesn't mean it won't count as a loss--it means it won't count as an abandon. Ya but I remembered something about if disconnect => abandon happens before first blood/tower down/ first 5 mins then the game doesn't count. I guess if he comes back even after abandon it resets | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On March 31 2013 13:22 dartoo wrote: The currunt theory is that the wins dont matter,it averages out the mmr of the team. If you and kotl have high mmr, and it finds two others with low, it takes the average of it and compares it to the other team, who might all be between better than the two bad players on your side. So you end up getting matches with crappy people for whom the system thinks you can compensate for...but most cases it is too much. I know wins don't matter, was more showing that to give an average "this is the level of teammate I had as compared to the other team." It's more to do with experience in the game than anything else (especially as the players in the game talked about how they were literally <50 games played at that point). What sucks about it so much is that if they had given even a reasonable level of teammate then the game would have been at least fun and interesting... Unfortunately that just wasn't in the cards it seems. | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
I normally have page 1-3 games, right now I'm being matched with people who've got a total of 60 or so games played. This spirit breaker who's at 40% winrate across 140 games is telling me that I'm bad at SF for not being able to mid vs a VS/witch doctor dual mid. This is so fucking bullshit What the fuck is this shit, play NS solo mid this game and I'm up vs SD kunkka? Fucking ridiculous | ||
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
Also feederbolt sux at invoker | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
and on the last you have someone competing with you for last hits who wont listen to chat, apparently thank you valve  edit: ah good, it's now 3/4 with people leaving. very good. | ||
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Delphiki
Philippines1955 Posts
On March 31 2013 10:26 fuzzy_panda wrote: So tired of junglers thinking they need to stay in jungle ALL THE TIME. We get a Darkseer on our team, calls jungle. We ask him to come to teamfights. "No, i haven't finished my items yet" - gets phase and vanguard. at lvl 11, we ask him again to come teamfight, "Nono, I haven't finished my items" - finishes Assault Cuirass. Gets into a teamfight accidentally when jungling and the other team comes and we somehow win it. We tell him to come push towers. "No, I have to finish pipe". Goes back into the jungle, farms for Pipe. 33 minutes into the game, lvl 18, 216 cs from jungles, "ok i'll come teamfight now". Wow this feels like me playing DS.. | ||
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
A: Our furion feeds like a motherfucker. Literally never accomplished anything other than walking around aimlessly in teamfights before sprouting around himself in the vain hope of not dying. Most of these kills go to sniper who is now raping our team. B: My computer suddenly can't handle the graphs of dota and starts to lag horrifically every time we I get in a fight. This all comes to head with our jugg deciding that the game is lost so hes just going to dive sniper over and over again and just before their final push my computer crashes completely, wtf furion, wtf, jugg, wtf DotA, wtf, Windows. I swear to god I don't know why I keep playing this game.... GRAAHHHH | ||
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pullarius1
United States523 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Guess Who!] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ju4lyfE.png) Highlights: 4xPhase Boots, 2xBattle fury, 2xAssault cuirass, and 0xForce Staff/Blink on my team. If you have any idea who more than a couple of the heroes are, you are either a genius or an idiot. Here's the link to the match page: http://dotabuff.com/matches/162192873 That's right. It was me, the support, AND FOUR MELEE CARRIES against four supports and Faceless Void. Despite having four melee carries, not one of them went vlads, and there wasn't a single blink dagger. So I just fucking built one. I looked it up on Dota buff. In the past month, only one out of every FIVE-HUNDRED HERO-GAMES does an AA get a vlads. And, since AA is only played in about one of every 20 games, that means that this happens once EVERY TEN-THOUSAND GAMES or so. If more perspective: more AAs have bought a FULL MJOLLNIR in the past month, and only slight fewer bought rapier. Also, in a game against Lion, Leshrac, Shadow Demon, and Rubick, the FIRST bkb came out at FORTY MINUTES IN. It was insane. I felt like some sort of battle baby sitter. I went casual hood of defiance, just so I could keep my vlads aura up on these idiots as they waddled toward the enemy and then I eventually went Rod of Atos just so they could keep up and actually attack them. Somehow, some way, we managed to hold out long enough for the carries to "finish farming" (I think the soul ring, halberd, skullbasher Brewmaster was my favorite) and eventually win. + Show Spoiler [The gold graph] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dyn4ZLu.png) | ||
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boon2537
United States905 Posts
Random teammates picked kotl and rubrick to trilane with me. Our SS lost mid, that was cute. Our clock got much more xp than an off lane treant, that was good. I got decent farm, that was great. Then, this obvious 4 or 5 man stack started to five man and crushed every lane. I played safe and got a few kills in chaotic engagements but I didn't have much space to farm at all and everyone kept dying. I guess I don't have to mention the rest... Fuck my dream of having 55 % wr Why whenever I want to get back into Dota, mm always kicks me in the balls ? | ||
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khanofmongols
542 Posts
tldr: buy gem and nobody holds it and says it isn't needed against a nxy and a weaver. | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
easy game PL and TA are the dumbest retards imaginable and ditch the entire team to 2/3v5 the enemy so they can farm. we just pushed top to take their top tower and raxes? WHOOPS BETTER MOVE LIKE A SERPENTINE AROUND THE MAP AND GO IN THE RADIANT JUNGLE,FUCK ENDING THE GAME. THEN MAYBE GO RADIANT ANCIENTS THEN MAYBE GO RADIANT JUNGLE AGAIN TO TRY AND HUNT THIS ONE GUY I SAW THEN MAYBE OUR ANCIENTS THEN OUR JUNGLE OH WAIT ROSH HAS SPAWNED THEN I GO SECRET SHOP CAUSE I NEED MY SIX SLOTS PL TO WIN THIS their entire enemy team was so.fucking.underfarmed. during the midgame.... bounty had a fucking divine towards the end !!!!!!!! 20 minute gg turnes into a 60 minute fuckfest I am so mad right now especially considering that in the previous couple of games there were like 3 pauses each lasting for 10-15 minutes | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On March 30 2013 09:01 dartoo wrote: Multi vanguards are okay..but 3 vlads on one team...with anti mage and pa rushing it as their first item..lol. Plus.. Idont understand this "hunting". Basically never farming, but just roaming the map and the other jungle in the hope of getting kills. Our riki stayed at level 7 till 30 minutes "hunting". In another game, doom says I should go hunt cause I have dopple walk, and forget farming creeps/neutrals. edit. brainfart, ignore | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
have never run into so many retards in my life allow me to broaden everyones horizons via my last game: enemy team: KotL - PL - Morphling - Warlock - Gondar my team: Alch - Enchant - SD (me) - Gyro - Slark So i'm heading towards bot rune (to ward), enchantress calls jungle, slark is on bottom lane, gyro was somewhere, and alch is sitting by ancients. We have no one at mid or solo top. Gyro goes solo mid, slark refuses to head top, alch refuses to leave ancients, and enchantress refuses to leave jungle Shadow Demon solo top (after buying courier and set of wards)? Hey, WHY THE FUCK NOT?! You're only against a KotL+PL lane, not like thats practically an instant death or worse given kotl is spamming mana leak on you and pl is lancing you whenever he gets in range so i'm sitting in chat for the first 10 minutes telling everyone they're retarded, not one lane was won, our gyro tries to gank and uses flak cannon while sitting in a creep wave somehow i ended up with the least deaths, mind you i was probably reported by everyone given i ended 0/2/0 (i may have sat in fountain for a few minutes to remind everyone about their brain defects) but what the fuck am I supposed to do? so i give up, for the next few days anyway. | ||
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convention
United States622 Posts
On April 01 2013 15:01 ReignSupreme. wrote: haven't won any of my last 6/7 games or something have never run into so many retards in my life allow me to broaden everyones horizons via my last game: enemy team: KotL - PL - Morphling - Warlock - Gondar my team: Alch - Enchant - SD (me) - Gyro - Slark So i'm heading towards bot rune (to ward), enchantress calls jungle, slark is on bottom lane, gyro was somewhere, and alch is sitting by ancients. We have no one at mid or solo top. Gyro goes solo mid, slark refuses to head top, alch refuses to leave ancients, and enchantress refuses to leave jungle Shadow Demon solo top (after buying courier and set of wards)? Hey, WHY THE FUCK NOT?! You're only against a KotL+PL lane, not like thats practically an instant death or worse given kotl is spamming mana leak on you and pl is lancing you whenever he gets in range so i'm sitting in chat for the first 10 minutes telling everyone they're retarded, not one lane was won, our gyro tries to gank and uses flak cannon while sitting in a creep wave somehow i ended up with the least deaths, mind you i was probably reported by everyone given i ended 0/2/0 (i may have sat in fountain for a few minutes to remind everyone about their brain defects) but what the fuck am I supposed to do? so i give up, for the next few days anyway. When I get four horrible people on my team and we lose, I at least agree that our team deserved to lose. My most recent game was drow, Tidehunter (me), Bristleback, bounty hunter, and invoker. I lane with drow and she is autoattack creeps. I get a little worried, but it's pretty easy to own with drow so I let it go. Until she gives up first blood two minutes in while auto attacking an axe (without being taunted) while surrounded by creep, then dies again after tp'ing back to the lane in 30 seconds. Then dies again and again and again so that at 12 minutes she was 0-8-0. The team score at this point was now 8-14 (so the rest of us weren't doing so horrible). Then in all chat she says "gg, it was over at picks. We have two tanks." These are the more frustrating losses, because we have a good 4 players, but our fifth is so bad and feeds so much that she single-handedly loses the game for us. In DOTA, it takes a team to win, it takes one feeder to lose. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Now, I don't like PA or BH so I don't really know how to build them... but I feel like these guys sure didn't know either. Even if BH can legitimately bfury carry in some specific situation, I'm fairly sure that situation isn't when the bad guys have a spec. Especially when he fed spec like 5 kills by 20 mins in the process. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
Seriously, I don't tell SK for example to Burrowstrike and use his Epicenter and blink if he should have one. That's a freaking no-brainer, that he's supposed to do that. Nor do I tell a PA to use stifling dagger, blink and right click her target. So I'd really like to know, why people always feel like "yelling at the healer", when they're getting low on HP. Funny thing is that's pretty much never done, if there's a Necrolyte in the game. Things only get worse when they yell at you for not healing / repelling, while they are playing heroes like QoP, Tiny or any hero that is quite mobile / often goes for a blink. They already are on the edge of the heal castrange, but for some reason decide to blink even further away into the enemies, then dying in a nuke fire within one second and then start to blame you, why you didn't heal them, because it's also so early in the game, that repel already wore off. Also Repel doesn't have the biggest castrange anyway. But for sure it's always a good thing to go full retard, when there's an Omni in your team because if you die, it's always his fault. By now I often find myself buying Blinkdagger on Omni, simply to keep up with the people, so I get shit on anyway, for getting a blink in the first place [after AB+mek & eventually SR], which I simply bought to make up for the inability of certain people to change their playstyle, because else they'd freaking die all the time, because for some reason it's always Omni's fault, if you're going full retard mode. tl;dr: If you want to blame your healer / Omni for your own inability to play properly, go play World of Warcraft -_- | ||
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