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On March 31 2013 01:31 Canas wrote:
Hey guys I'm doom bringer and I'm going to fuck with this courier for about 2 minutes straight so puck can't get his bottle because I want my ring of regen first, then bitch at puck when mid isn't going great
Got so pissed at this game I decided to spoil bioshock infinite ending in all chat, these fucking cunts deserve it
What did the enemy team do to deserve such a cruel fate?!
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its the 5th minute and my mid rubuck ( which is owning a weaver, ez match up for rubick) is getting pinged to gank as my bot and top lanes feed 2 kills each.
the moment I do gank 3 russians start screaming in mic, causing me to miss a kill as i always get distracted when someone uses voice chat
muted for the rest of the game.
we lose horribly to a super fat void that didnt get a BKB for the entire game....
previous game was a magina that didnt go manta against OD and dusa
we lost that one too.
a fucking medusa.....
ah well,at least im learning the hero
edit - just got into a game.
TA calls mid and gets psi blades as first skill
enough said i guess?time to lose some games?
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On March 31 2013 02:37 SKYFISH_ wrote:
its the 5th minute and my mid rubuck ( which is owning a weaver, ez match up for rubick) is getting pinged to gank as my bot and top lanes feed 2 kills each.
the moment I do gank 3 russians start screaming in mic, causing me to miss a kill as i always get distracted when someone uses voice chat
muted for the rest of the game.
we lose horribly to a super fat void that didnt get a BKB for the entire game....
previous game was a magina that didnt go manta against OD and dusa
we lost that one too.
a fucking medusa.....
ah well,at least im learning the hero
edit - just got into a game.
TA calls mid and gets psi blades as first skill
enough said i guess?time to lose some games?
Legit to get psi blades 1st in certain match ups, it allows to harass when you last hit.
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Took Kunkka mid. My opponent was Sniper so I had free farm by level 6 or so. I had around 50 cs by 10 minutes and had taken a tower and farmed my armlet. I started jungling with the prospect of an early daedalus. At around 19 minutes my team started pinging me. They had grouped as four without me and gone roaming in the enemy jungle. The enemy Shadow Shaman was very good with the warding so they got detected and wiped a few times, and they were blaming me for "afk farming". Our Gryocopter had absolutely no farm - just treads. By 30 minutes he was still working on a shadow blade, and then started building a helm, then a Daedalus. The game lasted for 50 minutes and he never started a BKB. Neither did the Huskar, who continued to build early-mid game items.
We were forced to turtle after around 25 minutes. I got my daedalus and BKB and kept the game alive with some teamfight-winning crits while my team wandered around getting picked off over and over. Eventually we lost and I got the blame.
There were people in that team with over 2000 hours in Dota 2, and they didn't understand that Gyro needs to farm at least until he has a shadow blade, or that a helm is not a good item 40 minutes in.
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On March 31 2013 02:59 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:37 SKYFISH_ wrote:
its the 5th minute and my mid rubuck ( which is owning a weaver, ez match up for rubick) is getting pinged to gank as my bot and top lanes feed 2 kills each.
the moment I do gank 3 russians start screaming in mic, causing me to miss a kill as i always get distracted when someone uses voice chat
muted for the rest of the game.
we lose horribly to a super fat void that didnt get a BKB for the entire game....
previous game was a magina that didnt go manta against OD and dusa
we lost that one too.
a fucking medusa.....
ah well,at least im learning the hero
edit - just got into a game.
TA calls mid and gets psi blades as first skill
enough said i guess?time to lose some games? Legit to get psi blades 1st in certain match ups, it allows to harass when you last hit.
against meele mid I suppose?
but against SF?
anyways, TA won mid hard and actually won us the game
thank fuck he wasnt one of the idiots who max psi blades on her first, this is what I originally though he would do
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On March 31 2013 01:38 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:31 Canas wrote:
Hey guys I'm doom bringer and I'm going to fuck with this courier for about 2 minutes straight so puck can't get his bottle because I want my ring of regen first, then bitch at puck when mid isn't going great
Got so pissed at this game I decided to spoil bioshock infinite ending in all chat, these fucking cunts deserve it What did the enemy team do to deserve such a cruel fate?!
You wouldn't like him when he's angry.
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On March 30 2013 20:01 Jetaap wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 12:55 Deathmanbob wrote:
I DONT GET PEOPLE WHO THINK LIFESTEALER IS GOOD IN THE JUNGLE WHEN HE IS THE CARRY!
i get that you can jungle him if you are running another carry in the lane but why in gods name would you do that when its just 2 supports in the lane.
Top lane is me Ld mid is Gyro and bot is tide bane. lifestealer goes jungle so that he can get all that awesome less fucking farm that the jungle has vs the lane. We are up against a PL SD rub WL DS. they are doing a D tri lane and doing a good job, i do my best and go 1-2 in the lane while getting as much farm as i can (they constantly would fight my bear from getting the wave) and at the end of the game LS and tide bane flame me for being 1-4 with a LD who "rushed a maelstrom, what a noob" and i caused them to lose the game. Not that they never once came up to try to stop the PL, no it was the fact that LD couldnt solo kill 3 heros who are playing well together and constantly stacking and pulling and protecting their carry. NO! its all my fucking fault because i cant 1v3, its LD! come on! he should be able to 1v5 a team from level! HE HAS A BEAR!!!!!!!!
I FUCKING HATE DOTA!
also... naix then says he is in high/very high bracket, ends the game with 98 cs in a 30+ min game.
Oh best part, AFK jungle farm, Armlet treds at 20 min At low level you usually wont get proper support in lane, and people are not really good with last hitting so jungle gives more "reliable" farm. That's why a lot of people are under the impression that jungling lifestealer will give him more farm.
heres the thing, i play in high MMR a decent amount of games, i know this game wassnt the lowest of the low and the guy said he plays high/very high. HE SHOULD OF KNOWN THE DAMN DIFFERENCE!
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On March 31 2013 03:54 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:59 nojok wrote:On March 31 2013 02:37 SKYFISH_ wrote:
its the 5th minute and my mid rubuck ( which is owning a weaver, ez match up for rubick) is getting pinged to gank as my bot and top lanes feed 2 kills each.
the moment I do gank 3 russians start screaming in mic, causing me to miss a kill as i always get distracted when someone uses voice chat
muted for the rest of the game.
we lose horribly to a super fat void that didnt get a BKB for the entire game....
previous game was a magina that didnt go manta against OD and dusa
we lost that one too.
a fucking medusa.....
ah well,at least im learning the hero
edit - just got into a game.
TA calls mid and gets psi blades as first skill
enough said i guess?time to lose some games? Legit to get psi blades 1st in certain match ups, it allows to harass when you last hit. against meele mid I suppose? but against SF? anyways, TA won mid hard and actually won us the game thank fuck he wasnt one of the idiots who max psi blades on her first, this is what I originally though he would do
Refraction allows easier last hits if you think you could have trouble to get your bottle & protection against lvl 1 ganks, but against SF I don't see any reason to delay the harass from psi blades. TA must have all skills enabled by level 4 and the max refaction invis & last psi blades.
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On March 31 2013 03:48 nigsky wrote:
Took Kunkka mid. My opponent was Sniper so I had free farm by level 6 or so. I had around 50 cs by 10 minutes and had taken a tower and farmed my armlet. I started jungling with the prospect of an early daedalus. At around 19 minutes my team started pinging me. They had grouped as four without me and gone roaming in the enemy jungle. The enemy Shadow Shaman was very good with the warding so they got detected and wiped a few times, and they were blaming me for "afk farming". Our Gryocopter had absolutely no farm - just treads. By 30 minutes he was still working on a shadow blade, and then started building a helm, then a Daedalus. The game lasted for 50 minutes and he never started a BKB. Neither did the Huskar, who continued to build early-mid game items.
We were forced to turtle after around 25 minutes. I got my daedalus and BKB and kept the game alive with some teamfight-winning crits while my team wandered around getting picked off over and over. Eventually we lost and I got the blame.
There were people in that team with over 2000 hours in Dota 2, and they didn't understand that Gyro needs to farm at least until he has a shadow blade, or that a helm is not a good item 40 minutes in.
a) Getting an item such as armlet and then only using it for jungling is terrible, the most important aspect of Armlet is the sheer stat-advantage when you get it early on vs poor/underleveled opponents. As Kunkka you should always try to make good fights and snowball off that unless your opponents are without any hero that has similar or stronger lategame potential.
b) Gyrocopter on a #4/#5 "support"-type role is perfectly viable.
By heading to the jungle after that great start you essentially made a 5vs5 that was going your way into a 4vsX which allowed your opponents to come back/negate the early advantage you had built. You should not blame anyone but yourself for losing that game if your goal is to improve.
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On March 31 2013 03:54 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:59 nojok wrote:On March 31 2013 02:37 SKYFISH_ wrote:
its the 5th minute and my mid rubuck ( which is owning a weaver, ez match up for rubick) is getting pinged to gank as my bot and top lanes feed 2 kills each.
the moment I do gank 3 russians start screaming in mic, causing me to miss a kill as i always get distracted when someone uses voice chat
muted for the rest of the game.
we lose horribly to a super fat void that didnt get a BKB for the entire game....
previous game was a magina that didnt go manta against OD and dusa
we lost that one too.
a fucking medusa.....
ah well,at least im learning the hero
edit - just got into a game.
TA calls mid and gets psi blades as first skill
enough said i guess?time to lose some games? Legit to get psi blades 1st in certain match ups, it allows to harass when you last hit. against meele mid I suppose? but against SF? anyways, TA won mid hard and actually won us the game thank fuck he wasnt one of the idiots who max psi blades on her first, this is what I originally though he would do
SF is only going to be able to harass with right clicks until level 2 at which point you'd get refraction. At level 1, TA has more base damage and hp than SF (until sf gets a lot of souls); therefore, trading right click harass with SF will benefit TA early on, so it makes more sense to get psi blades first to harass SF. Unless you're really scared of ganks or their mid has huge burst at level 1, I'd argue that level 1 psi blades is the better build in general.
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On March 31 2013 04:51 Corr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:48 nigsky wrote:
Took Kunkka mid. My opponent was Sniper so I had free farm by level 6 or so. I had around 50 cs by 10 minutes and had taken a tower and farmed my armlet. I started jungling with the prospect of an early daedalus. At around 19 minutes my team started pinging me. They had grouped as four without me and gone roaming in the enemy jungle. The enemy Shadow Shaman was very good with the warding so they got detected and wiped a few times, and they were blaming me for "afk farming". Our Gryocopter had absolutely no farm - just treads. By 30 minutes he was still working on a shadow blade, and then started building a helm, then a Daedalus. The game lasted for 50 minutes and he never started a BKB. Neither did the Huskar, who continued to build early-mid game items.
We were forced to turtle after around 25 minutes. I got my daedalus and BKB and kept the game alive with some teamfight-winning crits while my team wandered around getting picked off over and over. Eventually we lost and I got the blame.
There were people in that team with over 2000 hours in Dota 2, and they didn't understand that Gyro needs to farm at least until he has a shadow blade, or that a helm is not a good item 40 minutes in. a) Getting an item such as armlet and then only using it for jungling is terrible, the most important aspect of Armlet is the sheer stat-advantage when you get it early on vs poor/underleveled opponents. As Kunkka you should always try to make good fights and snowball off that unless your opponents are without any hero that has similar or stronger lategame potential. b) Gyrocopter on a #4/#5 "support"-type role is perfectly viable. By heading to the jungle after that great start you essentially made a 5vs5 that was going your way into a 4vsX which allowed your opponents to come back/negate the early advantage you had built. You should not blame anyone but yourself for losing that game if your goal is to improve.
Not that guy buy gyro wasn't going support gyro, he was going carry with shit farm gyro. At which point it is perfectly acceptable to flame him by dota etiquette customs. Yes, he could have played better, but so could his team by miles more. Going 4 into jungle without main carry multiple times when you know there are wards is dumb as shit for any team.
Thus, qq
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On March 31 2013 07:02 Thienan567 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 04:51 Corr wrote:On March 31 2013 03:48 nigsky wrote:
Took Kunkka mid. My opponent was Sniper so I had free farm by level 6 or so. I had around 50 cs by 10 minutes and had taken a tower and farmed my armlet. I started jungling with the prospect of an early daedalus. At around 19 minutes my team started pinging me. They had grouped as four without me and gone roaming in the enemy jungle. The enemy Shadow Shaman was very good with the warding so they got detected and wiped a few times, and they were blaming me for "afk farming". Our Gryocopter had absolutely no farm - just treads. By 30 minutes he was still working on a shadow blade, and then started building a helm, then a Daedalus. The game lasted for 50 minutes and he never started a BKB. Neither did the Huskar, who continued to build early-mid game items.
We were forced to turtle after around 25 minutes. I got my daedalus and BKB and kept the game alive with some teamfight-winning crits while my team wandered around getting picked off over and over. Eventually we lost and I got the blame.
There were people in that team with over 2000 hours in Dota 2, and they didn't understand that Gyro needs to farm at least until he has a shadow blade, or that a helm is not a good item 40 minutes in. a) Getting an item such as armlet and then only using it for jungling is terrible, the most important aspect of Armlet is the sheer stat-advantage when you get it early on vs poor/underleveled opponents. As Kunkka you should always try to make good fights and snowball off that unless your opponents are without any hero that has similar or stronger lategame potential. b) Gyrocopter on a #4/#5 "support"-type role is perfectly viable. By heading to the jungle after that great start you essentially made a 5vs5 that was going your way into a 4vsX which allowed your opponents to come back/negate the early advantage you had built. You should not blame anyone but yourself for losing that game if your goal is to improve. Not that guy buy gyro wasn't going support gyro, he was going carry with shit farm gyro. At which point it is perfectly acceptable to flame him by dota etiquette customs. Yes, he could have played better, but so could his team by miles more. Going 4 into jungle without main carry multiple times when you know there are wards is dumb as shit for any team. Thus, qq
So you still want to blame others instead of yourself for taking mid lane, then deciding to go into the jungle leaving the rest of your underleveled teammates to die repeatedly. Okay there.
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So tired of junglers thinking they need to stay in jungle ALL THE TIME. We get a Darkseer on our team, calls jungle. We ask him to come to teamfights. "No, i haven't finished my items yet" - gets phase and vanguard. at lvl 11, we ask him again to come teamfight, "Nono, I haven't finished my items" - finishes Assault Cuirass. Gets into a teamfight accidentally when jungling and the other team comes and we somehow win it. We tell him to come push towers. "No, I have to finish pipe". Goes back into the jungle, farms for Pipe. 33 minutes into the game, lvl 18, 216 cs from jungles, "ok i'll come teamfight now".
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^- Had a Beastmaster a couple of days ago who literally did nothing but farm ancients until he had Boots, Necro 3, and Halberd (don't remember how long it took him, but way longer than it should have). We'd actually been winning 4v5 somehow, but then everyone on our team except me decided it would be a good idea to repeatedly get RPed by a Magnus with MoM, BFury, and Crit. Weird game.
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Getting Psi-blades level 1 on TA is fine. The only match-up where I wouldn't do that is against SF.. You don't want him getting any souls in that first creep wave.
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that one time when u forget to pick in random draft, there will always be a meepo in the pool and the game will always select meepo for u.
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On March 31 2013 10:46 Enzymatic wrote:
Getting Psi-blades level 1 on TA is fine. The only match-up where I wouldn't do that is against SF.. You don't want him getting any souls in that first creep wave.
to be fair, regardless of his souls, he's a freekill for you at lvl 6
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On March 31 2013 10:46 Enzymatic wrote:
Getting Psi-blades level 1 on TA is fine. The only match-up where I wouldn't do that is against SF.. You don't want him getting any souls in that first creep wave.
If he gets souls through a 20 damage disadvantage, it has nothing to do with you needing 20 more.
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so if the game gets abandoned at the start (safe to leave), but he leaver comes back 6 minutes later, and you leave anyway the game counts? only game we were winning today but thought it wouldnt count so I left qq
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