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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 28 2013 20:16 GMT
#8601
On March 29 2013 05:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
SD is also a bad game mode


I just hit Chen and OD in my last 2 SD games (two of my favorites btw).

Sometimes the Dota gods are good.

LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
AbuseYouMerc
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
March 28 2013 20:18 GMT
#8602
On March 29 2013 05:16 leloup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 05:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
SD is also a bad game mode


I just hit Chen and OD in my last 2 SD games (two of my favorites btw).

Sometimes the Dota gods are good.



I think SD is a good mode, as long as you communicate your picks. after saying that, its a bad mode :d
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 20:39:49
March 28 2013 20:31 GMT
#8603
SD is so easy to lose before the game starts. at least half the games I played in it there was 1 or more people who wouldn't communicate picks whatsoever, plus most of the time my hero pool didn't have what our team needed. And then there are the games where somebody has riki/tree/chen or whatever (Keep in mind that most people can't play chen for their life and no you can't swap for them, visage/enchantress are the same).

Until valve lets you see allies options AND enables swap I will never play SD. One of those changes won't be enough either. Too easy to lose (to RNG, teammates will be teammates) before the game starts.

At least in AP/RD/CM I can try to pick around my team and my team doesn't get forced to play heroes they can't use.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
lhr0909
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States562 Posts
March 28 2013 20:38 GMT
#8604
played with a riki building tranquil boots and dagon. Had 14 last hits the whole game.

God i hate this game. I need to get out of normal bracket ASAP
No Pain No Gain
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 28 2013 21:05 GMT
#8605
On March 29 2013 05:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
SD is so easy to lose before the game starts. at least half the games I played in it there was 1 or more people who wouldn't communicate picks whatsoever, plus most of the time my hero pool didn't have what our team needed. And then there are the games where somebody has riki/tree/chen or whatever (Keep in mind that most people can't play chen for their life and no you can't swap for them, visage/enchantress are the same).

Until valve lets you see allies options AND enables swap I will never play SD. One of those changes won't be enough either. Too easy to lose (to RNG, teammates will be teammates) before the game starts.

At least in AP/RD/CM I can try to pick around my team and my team doesn't get forced to play heroes they can't use.


Oh, don't get me wrong, I only play it if someone I'm with selects it. I just happened to get picks I liked for once (and also with that had good teammates who picked around what was chosen already).

The vast majority of the time though it's just utter garbage.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 21:18:34
March 28 2013 21:14 GMT
#8606
rhasta on a sololane did not skill his nuke...at all.
his answer: you know nothing of this game. get good son
FTD
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 22:31:49
March 28 2013 22:15 GMT
#8607
game 1 - chen/pudge on the other team kept trying to do the "hook to fountain" trick. Pretty sure they had less than 200gpm at the end. Nice going guys, you wasted 30 minutes of our time. (they didn't hook even once). Yep, Pudge had 117gpm and Chen 130gpm.

game 2 - I can't understand the skill differences. SD teammate was absolutely terrible and his disruptions did more bad than good, but the weaver mid made up for it by playing excellent&agressive. Other team had an SkeK who had like...phase boots at 30 minutes and an AM that had BFury/Manta/Butterfly/Treads/Heart at 35 minutes, but he couldn't carry the rest of his deadbeat team. After we wiped them out and took 2 raxes all hell broke loss. I haven't heard so many bad "your momma" jokes since kindergarden.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/160244209

seriously look at that AM. 6/0/2, 740xpm, 560gpm, still didn't win. Poor guy, he took it pretty well at the end. The only one on his team not to rage or curse.

not shown - I pretty much played 5th position in both the games.

maybe it's time to take a break from dota

as for the ursa guy - you can't expect to badmouth a whole nationality (that dota is pretty popular in) and then be surprised when people backlash at you. If you had said "report drow, refuses to fight together with team" they would have taken it at a completely different value.
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
March 28 2013 23:23 GMT
#8608
On March 29 2013 00:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 23:46 Domus wrote:
On March 28 2013 22:47 hooahah wrote:
On March 28 2013 21:27 Jalle wrote:
Two games in a row I end up with one of my teammates instantly picking Drow, then as soon as things do not quite go as he's planned (Drow means insta-win right?!?!?!), proceeds to flame the whole team for the rest of the game in every way imaginable. Dear lord, why does it always have to be the Drows? :/


it's people that are looking for insta-wins, they tend to be douchebags. If he's good then he rises in the matchmaking until he reaches a level where people know how to deal with Drow and he can't keep doing his bullshit. If he's bad then he'll blame his teammates for his losses since Drow has 99% winrate.

If someone happens to pick Drow via random though - oh boy, you're in for a pounding

On March 28 2013 22:41 Benjef wrote:
I'm 4-16 in my past 20 games. I want to cry. 3 of those 4 wins were in 5 stacks and the other 1 was in a solo queue where I went mid and just stomped....

What the fuck dotaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Just looked back further in my dotabuff
Before this loss streak I was 17 wins and 6 losses.... Why can't dota be consistent .


statistics bro - each game is independent of the previous one. Just because you won a game doesn't mean that the next one will be a loss, and vice versa.


Lol....bro, each game is not independent of the previous one :D. Your logic is flawed...Anyway, there is a serious flaw in the MM system in DOTA imo. I know it sounds like whining, but I actually stopped playing because it is just very obviously there. When compared to SC2 the matchmaking system is seriously flawed.

Every game is independent, outside of your regular MMR gain/loss. There is no 'this guy just won a game, we are going to deliberately put him in a team of 4 idiots so he loses the next game,' at all. Any claims otherwise are just delusional and easy excuses.


http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/6/60/Timb_move_05.mp3

As for my qq...I don't have any. Yet. I'm sure the second I log onto dota tonight I'm gonna get a team INSTALOCK SNIPER DROW RIKI BS MID OR I FEED
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 00:09:25
March 29 2013 00:08 GMT
#8609
1th game was sortof ok in picks. I randomed sven first, and then two other guys on the team goes herp derp, picks carry, and rushes to safe lane. So I'm stuck with lina on hard lane, not that bad. Especially once I notice that leshrac is soloing the lane. Lina and sven combo should yield some sure kills, or at least 100% farm, right?!..NOPE! Lina auto attacks, fights for every single lasthit, and stays so far back that leshrac manages to harass me constantly. The few times I think we can go on him, Lina is so far back that she doesn't manage to reach the follow up stun in time.

Then, once, I grab leshrac way out of position, hit him with a stun..just to watch lina use her dragon slave on the creep wave, and throw down her stun just in time for mine to run out and miss leshrac completely. He's down to 20% hp, and he's still harassing me because she's standing so fucking far behind all the time.

And then team blames me for not having any farm.. "report noob mother I fuck" and all that.

Especially funny when I watch the enemy team pushing a lane, and I farm as much as possible in the jungle, and even writing in chat that I plan on TP'ing back the second the fight starts. What happens? "def sven omfg noob report!"...5 seconds later the teamfight starts, I tp back, and get a triple kill.

Oh yeah, and that luna ended the game with boots and a yasha.

2nd game today I pick first in random draft and grab a death prophet. Then someone picks a carry..and then a carry, and then a carry, and for last, its another carry...Suicide lane was juggernaut and dragon knight..

How low exactly is my MMR atm? It feels like one game I'm facing the equivalent of Dendi, and the next I'm surrounded by people who's first time playing the game.
fearpLug
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany153 Posts
March 29 2013 00:11 GMT
#8610
mm in dota2 was is and seemingly always will be trash.
u get stomps, one way or the other.
all my games are like, we trash them totally hard or they trash us totally hard.
which always involves some total retards in either team, but hey valve needs hundreds of pages of feedback for matchmaking and still isnt able to implement a rather ok system.
why not have like 10 stages of skill instead of 3, where 1 stage(high) hast like 80% of the player pool?
dota 2 mm makes me want to quit dota 2 so hard sometimes.. oh and the fact that retards dont have fear anything at all, since the punishment system in dota 2 is a meager joke.
i miss div league 8/ ppl there used 2 handle stuff better
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 29 2013 00:20 GMT
#8611
On March 29 2013 09:11 fearpLug wrote:
mm in dota2 was is and seemingly always will be trash.
u get stomps, one way or the other.
all my games are like, we trash them totally hard or they trash us totally hard.
which always involves some total retards in either team, but hey valve needs hundreds of pages of feedback for matchmaking and still isnt able to implement a rather ok system.
why not have like 10 stages of skill instead of 3, where 1 stage(high) hast like 80% of the player pool?
dota 2 mm makes me want to quit dota 2 so hard sometimes.. oh and the fact that retards dont have fear anything at all, since the punishment system in dota 2 is a meager joke.
i miss div league 8/ ppl there used 2 handle stuff better

But Normal has the vast majority of the player pool

And the stompy games aren't MMing, people tend to forget that dota CAN be a very snowbally game
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
fearpLug
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany153 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 01:03:41
March 29 2013 00:24 GMT
#8612
On March 29 2013 09:20 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:11 fearpLug wrote:
mm in dota2 was is and seemingly always will be trash.
u get stomps, one way or the other.
all my games are like, we trash them totally hard or they trash us totally hard.
which always involves some total retards in either team, but hey valve needs hundreds of pages of feedback for matchmaking and still isnt able to implement a rather ok system.
why not have like 10 stages of skill instead of 3, where 1 stage(high) hast like 80% of the player pool?
dota 2 mm makes me want to quit dota 2 so hard sometimes.. oh and the fact that retards dont have fear anything at all, since the punishment system in dota 2 is a meager joke.
i miss div league 8/ ppl there used 2 handle stuff better

But Normal has the vast majority of the player pool

And the stompy games aren't MMing, people tend to forget that dota CAN be a very snowbally game


i would agree if some games were like that, but its literally all of them. you either have the total retards or you own them, nothing between that.. i cant remember a close or even game i had.
out of the dev forum :

t doesn't work on an equal basis
it's one-sided almost every game, you either stomp or get stomped
high win players get 'averaged' with people who just started playing
language option is a placebo
win and loss streaks all the way, you can set your clock after this

that sums up it pretty good. most accurate thing ive read in a long time. but hey hatz!

and another stomp : dota 2 mm makes me want to play 1v1 hots so badly although i ahte 1v1 in sc2, but everything is better than having to deal with this scum..
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 29 2013 05:23 GMT
#8613
every time there is a new hero, people just don't understand how it works. At all. every time.

YOU DON'T FOLLOW A BRISTLEBACK THROUGH THE MAP HITTING HIS BACK
YOU DON'T FOCUS FIRE A BRISTLEBACK IN A FIGHT NO MATTER WHAT
and most importantly
BRISTLEBACK IS A CARRY, HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE LANED LIKE A CARRY AND IS SUPPOSED TO FARM LIKE A CARRY

Agh.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
March 29 2013 08:07 GMT
#8614
On March 29 2013 05:16 leloup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 05:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
SD is also a bad game mode


I just hit Chen and OD in my last 2 SD games (two of my favorites btw).

Sometimes the Dota gods are good.


This hehe.
I played my first SD game in dota 2 few days ago. Chen/Clockwerk/Drow.
Picked drow, proceed to go 13-0 and win in 25 min while watching my enemies flame each other on all chat.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
10734
Profile Joined September 2012
340 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 08:48:59
March 29 2013 08:47 GMT
#8615
Just stomped two games in a row, in both games we had good picks for a pub (laning setup was good and balanced picks), some wards, a general idea of what you're supposed to do in what role, okay laning and we stomped so hard, some of them just called BG and went AFK.

The QQ: you need so little to win a pub, no one played exceptionally well, we made tons of mistakes and didn't even communicate that much (chat wheel + pings).
You don't even need to be that good, just some general knowledge, read a general guide like the one purge made, think about the laning setup, know what your role is and you just can't lose. Why is that so hard?
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
March 29 2013 09:17 GMT
#8616
Played a game, went batrider, won my lane pretty handidly, ganked bot and top was up 8-1.. doesnt even matter, still lost cause no one fucking farmed on my team, then the team somehow blamed me... though i had the most kills and assists, ganked like a mad man, had rune control the entire laning phase, killed mid twice... and its somehow my fault we lost
Flash Fan!
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
March 29 2013 09:25 GMT
#8617
When playing with couple friends, the rest of our team and the enemies are generally OK. When I queue solo, mysteriously my team is full of total retards (aggressive trilane Lifestealer getting Rage at 8 against KotL Kunkka + Enigma, because you know, he needed the +1% lifesteal).
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 29 2013 09:56 GMT
#8618
I swear wisp is such a fucking unfair hero in pubs, just played a game where we were massively ahead early on, and it was looking like the game was going to be a 20 minute stomp game.

Then wisp happens and people just start feeding relentlessly, and they don't even give a fuck, like, here's a conversation between me and our centaur:

"centaur go back"
"no"
"please go back"
no reply
"ok well you're dead"
"oke"
SF + wisp kills centaur.

Like what the fuck? This happened A LOT. Still won the game, but what was going to be a 20 min stomp ended up being a really close 45 min game.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
March 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#8619
yesterday :
instapick Ursa, go for a rush mask of madness and max his orb
'this does not work'
[insert some cyrillic comment]
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
March 29 2013 11:57 GMT
#8620
My qq is about Na'vi.
They used to be the team that surprised me by winning with interesting unexpected picks, but these days they use the same 10 heroes over and over.
Glad I got that out of my system, thx
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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