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On March 07 2013 00:27 maru~ wrote: You want Slark, primarily a ganker, to outcarry Dusa and Furion, with 11 deaths at that?
To be fair Slark needs some love, i don't hope for more Agi gain, but at least some more starting armor.
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a bit more str gain would help him more
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Was in a pub yesterday when a teammate decided to pick spectre. Miraculously someone was up for playing support in a trilane (i mostly play support and picked rubick) so we had free farm laid out for him. ...that is until spectre suddenly decided he'd rather go solo mid against a... wait for it... batrider. despite my objections he had his mind made up, luckily we had a lifestealer who could easily take his place. ...but he wanted to go jungle, went COMPLETELY afk farm (while going 0-6-0 in the process, and the team losing towers), and only had an armlet to show for it in the end. When lifestealer used the little farm he had to buy a blink dagger 30-40 minutes into the game and i asked him why in the name of god he would do that, the whole team asked to me 'what's wrong with that?' I'd basically given up at that point however spectre managed to farm a vanguard + heart ...only to feed himself in a suicidal manner 40+ minutes in, resulting in an immediate loss.
Needless to say, a 1/5 stars game
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On March 07 2013 01:30 Narw wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 00:27 maru~ wrote: You want Slark, primarily a ganker, to outcarry Dusa and Furion, with 11 deaths at that? To be fair Slark needs some love I agree.
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Normally I wouldn't qq but..
Last game, decent team, we got ahead early with kills, then goes around even, though we have a slight upper hand. Suddenly, out of nowhere; one player says "I'm going afk" and only comes back at the end of a 4vs5 endgame with evenly skilled players without even apologizing or anything. Wtf.... we could have had it won :/
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On March 07 2013 00:27 maru~ wrote: You want Slark, primarily a ganker, to outcarry Dusa and Furion, with 11 deaths at that?
Most of the deaths came when we started losing teamfights as they became increasingly fed. Like a 18-4 ->21-11 kind of deal. But yeah obviously I can't outcarry them, just frustrated my teammates couldn't pick up the slack so it wasn't basically 1v5 with some disables as their contribution.
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On March 07 2013 03:49 RuskiPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 00:27 maru~ wrote: You want Slark, primarily a ganker, to outcarry Dusa and Furion, with 11 deaths at that? Most of the deaths came when we started losing teamfights as they became increasingly fed. Like a 18-4 ->21-11 kind of deal. But yeah obviously I can't outcarry them, just frustrated my teammates couldn't pick up the slack so it wasn't basically 1v5 with some disables as their contribution. Oh well, shit happens.
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On March 07 2013 01:12 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 21:12 Lightspeaker wrote:On March 06 2013 15:06 Appendix wrote: Also, what's up with people starting to whine from the get-go? It mostly happen on my less serious account, but not too seldom someone starts crying about russians, wards, lanes... everything. And more often than not they're themselves a big part of the problem they whine about without anyone else on the team being up their face. Best early QQ is drafting stage QQ. And I don't mean "crap...we got 5 carries, this could be tough" type of QQ. I mean "OMG NO TANK WE LOSE GG THANKS NOOBS". Seriously wtf is it with people yelling for a tank? I feel like I'm constantly having to explain to people this isn't World of Warcraft and how what they SHOULD be looking for is an initiator...which we already usually have in something like Enigma. But no, apparently you need a tank to hold the aggro from the enemy bosses or something. I think it comes from lol where there are actually some tanks who can taunt & their role is also to catch some skillshots in the face until one can really initiate. But I agree it looks bad when you read this at the start of the game.
Im pretty sure it does come from LoL, and thats what i dont get. Dota is so different from LoL that why would you ever expect to play the game the same way? I still have friends who go "omg we need tank!!!" and i just face palm every damn time
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On March 07 2013 05:10 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 01:12 nojok wrote:On March 06 2013 21:12 Lightspeaker wrote:On March 06 2013 15:06 Appendix wrote: Also, what's up with people starting to whine from the get-go? It mostly happen on my less serious account, but not too seldom someone starts crying about russians, wards, lanes... everything. And more often than not they're themselves a big part of the problem they whine about without anyone else on the team being up their face. Best early QQ is drafting stage QQ. And I don't mean "crap...we got 5 carries, this could be tough" type of QQ. I mean "OMG NO TANK WE LOSE GG THANKS NOOBS". Seriously wtf is it with people yelling for a tank? I feel like I'm constantly having to explain to people this isn't World of Warcraft and how what they SHOULD be looking for is an initiator...which we already usually have in something like Enigma. But no, apparently you need a tank to hold the aggro from the enemy bosses or something. I think it comes from lol where there are actually some tanks who can taunt & their role is also to catch some skillshots in the face until one can really initiate. But I agree it looks bad when you read this at the start of the game. Im pretty sure it does come from LoL, and thats what i dont get. Dota is so different from LoL that why would you ever expect to play the game the same way? I still have friends who go "omg we need tank!!!" and i just face palm every damn time I'm pretty sure I've heard that phrase far before LoL was that popular. It may be more common or something, but I don't think it started with it.
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Lalalaland34503 Posts
The term 'tank' was around from the beginning of Dota, long before LoL ever came around. Back then people used to think it was a necessary thing to have in a team. As people started to understand Dota more they realised that 'tanks' are completely redundant and what they really want are 'initiators'.
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I was to qq about a game where we had shit picks (too many support^^) werent able to finish the game and therefor lost after 65min. But communication & team morale was good.
The next game though.... people autoattacking. Meepo. 3 Russians (were silent the whole game even when asked questions, only talked in Russian after the game was over). Wow...worst fucking game ever.
edit: ok. the next game was worse. what the fuck..... Looks like valve wants me to get down to 50% win :/
edit2: even worse. 4-20. I'm disruptor support. Warding & shit. Dont even have $$$ for boots. Fuck this. Taking the abandon.
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Winning a game vs a 3 stack.
Our Leshrac dies multiple times overextending, doesn't use his spells properly, competes with Spectre for farm.
Teammates keep telling him to cut it out.
He throws a tantrum and deliberately throws the game.
I don't even... *sigh* My best Sand King game to date as well. Got off some really nice epicentres and me and Shadow Demon teamed up for nice early game ganks.
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I dont understand why people play SD without communicating what heroes they've got. Its beyond retarded how stupid people are. Supposedly, the very high skill group.
Yeah right.
Oh and for that game? Idiot PA cant last hit and dies on the safelane even though he's *farming* near tower all the time because Im pulling, stacking and generally spotting any ganks incoming. The toplane feeds a skeleton king into flesh, the midlane kunkka loses against a bane.
The worst part is that its so obvious the enemy is almost just as bad, but you cant win 1v5 :\
Oh yeah, so those idiots dive 4v2, manage to kill the idiot PA who is out of position, meanwhile, im begging for TP's to come in so we can own them... I manage to finish off 2 (no tp's) and then ultimately die with the other 2 heroes on like 100 HP each.
Beyond. Retardation. Fuck. MM.
EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot the most important part. After all this I had a few words (not even that harsh) about why there are no tp's and BAM! 4 reports on my ass. Low prio awayyyyyy!
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QQ'ing for the enemy team this time:
We had bad lanes, and I ended up to with a lina against solo gyrocopter who handed our ass to us. Lina never harassed, and would sometimes go in close just to let him kill her. She also autoattacked and completely ruined my farm, so I didn't have BF before 16 min.
Anyways, we ended up winning because the rest of my team did well. Their gyrocopter, in a last desperate attemp bought a Divine Rapier, and lost it to us in the next teambattle. He ended the game 11-1-9. The rest of his team went in allchat: "REPORT GYRO OMFG NOOB FAG!" etc etc..
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random draft, first guy picks TA, I'm second pick and there is luna and pl in the pool, I basically have to pick one of those because if they get pl and nobody picks luna in my team we'll have no way to clear illusions (except medusa but I really dislike her) Rest of the team picks medusa spectre and necro... Yeahhhh 3 hard carries and 2 semi carries... Against luna dark seer centaur alchemist witch doctor. Worst thing is that we dominated them in the early game and won the game easily pub games dont make sense sometimes
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Netherlands6142 Posts
I tried to shackle someone to a sprout today
QQ
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Reading the comments in the dev forums about the new patch makes me sick
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On March 07 2013 08:09 StoRm_res wrote: Reading the comments in the dev forums about the new patch makes me sick
new patch? link?
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On March 07 2013 08:16 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 08:09 StoRm_res wrote: Reading the comments in the dev forums about the new patch makes me sick new patch? link?
New patches are always posted on dev.dota2.com
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On March 07 2013 05:23 Firebolt145 wrote: The term 'tank' was around from the beginning of Dota, long before LoL ever came around. Back then people used to think it was a necessary thing to have in a team. As people started to understand Dota more they realised that 'tanks' are completely redundant and what they really want are 'initiators'.
Definatly this. I remember hearing the term tank a lot in my bnet days. Basically what they really wanted was str hero who could start hte fights
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