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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
February 10 2013 18:00 GMT
#6921
People also forget that for a long time level didnt even increase and it was stuck at level 0 or 1. It's possible that some people played 1000+ games before Valve ever implemented the leveling system.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 18:28:18
February 10 2013 18:19 GMT
#6922
On February 10 2013 08:28 hooahah wrote:
someone tell me of his biggest throw experience

bonus points if it doesn't have any DR involved


Biggest throw I was involved in, I was Tide, we also had ES, Veno CK, and someone else, but basically CK was our carry. We got off to a terrific start by outlaning their offlane hard, and by 30 mins, our CK was 23-2. Unfortunately, he was a fucking idiot, and while Veno, ES, and I attacked rax after we rout them, he dove the fountain for more kills, dying. We retreat, but their team had a lot of disable, slow, and general chasing skills so we also died (mostly veno because he didn't have blink like ES and I), failing to take the rax because we deal very little damage. We tell CK not to do that anymore, he's like "it's okay there's no way we can lose." Repeat this 3 more times, and now we're on the sidelines while they take mid and throne us.


On February 10 2013 13:58 Zephirdd wrote:
tired of -AP, because of so many fucking people picking the same fucking combos of drow, pudge, naix, nyx and whatnot. Every game, same heroes.

So I queue to RD, SD, AR and LP.

-AR: our team is 5 carry vs their extremely balanced team(and somehow they are a thousand times more coordinated too, but I guess that's what happens when everyone decides they are the most important player ever. At least I bought wards)

-RD: I am last pick, they first pick Tiny. Then our team proceeds to pick OD + Storm. Then they pick Wisp. OH WELL. First sentence of a teammate after I mention the wisp/tiny combo: "lol wisp/tiny is a weak combo"

-SD: 4carry instalock at 50s.

Still no LP game, but boy am I waiting for it.



I'll give you a sneak peek of LP: half the players pick their best hero that's still in their pool and try their best, and the other half think of LP mode as a way to just screw around and play a hero they have no idea how to play. Player skill is extremely lopsided, even more so than it commonly is in AP.

I have the same game settings as you (RD, SD, AR, LP) and RD is my favorite by far, since IMO it's the best version of AP but without the most popular 3 or 4 heroes every game. Sometimes you'll see troll, drow, etc., but usually only one (or none) in any given game.


In a separate rant:

I played an RD game yesterday, and the opponent's first pick made the egregious mistake of not picking Magnus as soon as his ugly fucking face showed up in RD, but it was okay, because our first 2 picks didn't choose him either. So their second and third get Mag and PL. I end up with Enigma. Every time he RP'd and I look at my black hole and see it's got still 70 seconds of cooldown, I'm just like "how the fuck is this real?"

In other news, I have no idea how to beat PL. Once he gets diffusal, he feeds on supports and gets fat fast. After that, you spend the rest of the game attacking illusions that are stronger than your actual heroes. Half the time his illusions push your lane and he's not even fucking there. My best guess is to put a strong lane against him and shut him down from lvl 1. Of course, in pubs that means PL is basically unstoppable in the hands of a non-retarded player.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 10 2013 18:33 GMT
#6923
On February 11 2013 02:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
Level means even less when looking at people at level 1-5 because those guys are possibly smurfs.

exactly this. Dont let your guard down.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 19:11:46
February 10 2013 19:10 GMT
#6924
On February 11 2013 03:19 Dromar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 08:28 hooahah wrote:
someone tell me of his biggest throw experience

bonus points if it doesn't have any DR involved


Biggest throw I was involved in, I was Tide, we also had ES, Veno CK, and someone else, but basically CK was our carry. We got off to a terrific start by outlaning their offlane hard, and by 30 mins, our CK was 23-2. Unfortunately, he was a fucking idiot, and while Veno, ES, and I attacked rax after we rout them, he dove the fountain for more kills, dying. We retreat, but their team had a lot of disable, slow, and general chasing skills so we also died (mostly veno because he didn't have blink like ES and I), failing to take the rax because we deal very little damage. We tell CK not to do that anymore, he's like "it's okay there's no way we can lose." Repeat this 3 more times, and now we're on the sidelines while they take mid and throne us.


Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 13:58 Zephirdd wrote:
tired of -AP, because of so many fucking people picking the same fucking combos of drow, pudge, naix, nyx and whatnot. Every game, same heroes.

So I queue to RD, SD, AR and LP.

-AR: our team is 5 carry vs their extremely balanced team(and somehow they are a thousand times more coordinated too, but I guess that's what happens when everyone decides they are the most important player ever. At least I bought wards)

-RD: I am last pick, they first pick Tiny. Then our team proceeds to pick OD + Storm. Then they pick Wisp. OH WELL. First sentence of a teammate after I mention the wisp/tiny combo: "lol wisp/tiny is a weak combo"

-SD: 4carry instalock at 50s.

Still no LP game, but boy am I waiting for it.



I'll give you a sneak peek of LP: half the players pick their best hero that's still in their pool and try their best, and the other half think of LP mode as a way to just screw around and play a hero they have no idea how to play. Player skill is extremely lopsided, even more so than it commonly is in AP.

I have the same game settings as you (RD, SD, AR, LP) and RD is my favorite by far, since IMO it's the best version of AP but without the most popular 3 or 4 heroes every game. Sometimes you'll see troll, drow, etc., but usually only one (or none) in any given game.


In a separate rant:

I played an RD game yesterday, and the opponent's first pick made the egregious mistake of not picking Magnus as soon as his ugly fucking face showed up in RD, but it was okay, because our first 2 picks didn't choose him either. So their second and third get Mag and PL. I end up with Enigma. Every time he RP'd and I look at my black hole and see it's got still 70 seconds of cooldown, I'm just like "how the fuck is this real?"

In other news, I have no idea how to beat PL. Once he gets diffusal, he feeds on supports and gets fat fast. After that, you spend the rest of the game attacking illusions that are stronger than your actual heroes. Half the time his illusions push your lane and he's not even fucking there. My best guess is to put a strong lane against him and shut him down from lvl 1. Of course, in pubs that means PL is basically unstoppable in the hands of a non-retarded player.


It depends on the skill of the PL, but in general I use a gem, that way you can easily spot the real PL. They often are there, but invisible because of dopplewalk. Also, heroes like Luna work against PL. Items like Battle fury, Radiance, Manta, any form of AOE helps against the illusions. Haven't really had any trouble with PL honestly.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#6925
Meepo in my team. Ok, fine. His build? Not fine. 4 points net and 4 points geostrike then one point poof and one point in ult (and he never used his extra Meepo until our base was getting destroyed). SS manages to feed hillariously. SF loses mid hard to Sniper. Their Wisp is all over the place doing an awesome support job. Then I start dying all the time because their team is constantly buying detection, warding everywhere, etc etc. But somehow I'm still the only one on the team with more than one kill.

What did I do to deserve this?
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 10 2013 20:12 GMT
#6926
On February 09 2013 13:11 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 06:39 nonsequitur wrote:
Dota 2 is in serious need of a concede function.

Nononononononononono

There has been games where I won them despite that I questioned it during the course of the game.
For example, despite that one of my teammates DQd and didn't rejoin and no one controlled that character, we were still able take home a 50-16 kill victory(or something like that)

Even today when I played a game that was a 4v5 and lost, there were still late-game moments where I felt like we could at least turn this to a close finish.

So no matter what Valve implements, I will play with the mentality "It ain't over until the ancient falls"
EZ4ENCE
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 10 2013 20:29 GMT
#6927
If anyone knows how to carry a game when your mid SF feeds 0-7-1 and the enemy team has PL and Centaur, I would love to know
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 20:33:08
February 10 2013 20:32 GMT
#6928
Also what on earth is wrong with people who tick English and then refuse to speak it. I'm not xenophobic and I really couldn't care less what language you speak as long as you speak English or Chinese to me because I don't know any other languages LOL. I queued as a 3 stack and the 2 other people either were incapable of speaking English or refused to speak it. One of them even had an open mic so we could hear literally every sound on his computer. Wish someone could teach these people how to use computers
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
February 10 2013 21:59 GMT
#6929
On February 11 2013 05:32 writer22816 wrote:
Also what on earth is wrong with people who tick English and then refuse to speak it. I'm not xenophobic and I really couldn't care less what language you speak as long as you speak English or Chinese to me because I don't know any other languages LOL. I queued as a 3 stack and the 2 other people either were incapable of speaking English or refused to speak it. One of them even had an open mic so we could hear literally every sound on his computer. Wish someone could teach these people how to use computers


Thats what the mute function is for! =D
and what 5stacks are for... =(
People who played on us servers and couldnt speak before are just going to hit every option and keep on playing, there isnt anything implemented to stop that yet, nor will there ever be i imagine.
In Mushi we trust
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 10 2013 22:18 GMT
#6930
Feed the gem to the enemy team on 3 occasions, complain about lack of wards. I wonder what happened to them. Did they get destroyed? Impossible, right?
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
10734
Profile Joined September 2012
340 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 22:39:33
February 10 2013 22:38 GMT
#6931
Playing some single draft, get matched with a russian 3 stack, they don't speak English (or just don't want to) but selected English anyway. I pick bane, after almost a minute (counterpick rite) they pick CK, BH and SD. Last guy picks Juggernaut. After some time I go bot to gank and the enemy just keeps on coming back and feeding, leaving me, SD and CK very farmed. CK uses his money to buy basic boots, a hood of defiance and a blademail. He also never leveled reality rift. Jug and BH both rush battlefury of course, neither of them get it before 35 minutes. The game then goes into a stalemate for 10 minutes where both teams never fight, just sit and wait, I'm so bored I just initiate, I get killed, team runs, opponents chase and wipe, and this happens time after time after time.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 10 2013 22:59 GMT
#6932
played against a team that had Disruptor, Dark Seer and Magnus

Vacuum->RP->Wall&Static Shock

thank god they were awful and had no wards, so after the first teamfight where we realized what a bullshit combo that is we just never team fought them
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 10 2013 23:46 GMT
#6933
On February 11 2013 08:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
Man, I can't take any more Brazilians. How are they the same MMR as me when they play so horribly. Wrong items, wrong builds, etc.

It doesn't make sense if we're at the same MMR.

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
nikola_tesla
Profile Joined February 2013
97 Posts
February 10 2013 23:50 GMT
#6934
ursa + wisp. i dont ryke 1 bit.

^wursp.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 10 2013 23:56 GMT
#6935
Just played two games in a row and in both our team bought 2 couriers in the start by accident, lol. It didn't matter much and we won both times, but I found it quite funny to have that happen twice in a row.
super gg
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 00:25:21
February 11 2013 00:06 GMT
#6936
On February 10 2013 14:10 Asvhald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 07:10 i99 wrote:
On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.

Quoting Idra, people need more self respect.


try playing smarter


Well thank you Einstein. I'm actually not complaining about being unable to win against these heroes (or should I say sorry excuses for heroes), but why should I have to play smarter when all they have to do is roll their ugly dorito-munching faces against the motherfucking keyboard?


if your quoting idra with regards to balance you might have problems/misplaced superiority complex. Look for excuses less, adopt a healthier mentality and you will enjoy the game more and get better faster.
My qq is on a related note, im a little tired when ppl pick drow or some of the above mentioned heroes and get bitched for it right away or, worse, when my own team starts the game with gg they have drow we lost. What if the guy just feels like playing drow/pl/QoP not for supposed "opness" but for his own fun? I havent played nyx in a while and he's a lot of fun, doesn't mean I'm a skilless dorito-munching newb if I finally pick him. QoP is also pretty fun cause she can be so active around the map.
Same goes for tryhard comboes. Ye they can be annoying to play vs, but opponents aren't supposed to prioritize your fun when picking
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
February 11 2013 00:14 GMT
#6937
On February 11 2013 08:56 cecek wrote:
Just played two games in a row and in both our team bought 2 couriers in the start by accident, lol. It didn't matter much and we won both times, but I found it quite funny to have that happen twice in a row.


I do that quite often actually, I'm pretty bad at it. Thing is, I look in the fountain, don't see a courier (because who knows what it will look like and I guess I suck at identifying them), and buy another one.

The trick I've figured out is you gotta look at the courier control area at the bottom right of the UI. If it says "no courier," buy, otherwise it'll have the courier's current command shown.

Separate rant:
I lost all my Hero Item Builds! They must have changed it in a recent patch. Pisses me off, because I had about 40 of them, and now I have to reconstruct the initial items and build orders by memory. I had put a lot of work into those.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
February 11 2013 00:37 GMT
#6938
All random, enemy got Jakiro, Earthshaker, Dragon Knight, Chaos Knight and Clockwerk.. STUN STUN STUN STUN STUN STUN STUN while eating every Jakiro spell..
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
February 11 2013 00:59 GMT
#6939
Why does everyone think you need to 5 man DOTA every game from 20 minutes onward just because "the metagaym sayz bro"??
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
February 11 2013 01:11 GMT
#6940
On February 11 2013 05:12 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 13:11 WindWolf wrote:
On February 09 2013 06:39 nonsequitur wrote:
Dota 2 is in serious need of a concede function.

Nononononononononono

There has been games where I won them despite that I questioned it during the course of the game.
For example, despite that one of my teammates DQd and didn't rejoin and no one controlled that character, we were still able take home a 50-16 kill victory(or something like that)

Even today when I played a game that was a 4v5 and lost, there were still late-game moments where I felt like we could at least turn this to a close finish.

So no matter what Valve implements, I will play with the mentality "It ain't over until the ancient falls"


Good man. So glad even newcomer can realize a concede button is bad. Dota is defo the game for you^^
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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