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On February 10 2013 08:28 hooahah wrote:
someone tell me of his biggest throw experience
bonus points if it doesn't have any DR involved
Well not a throw for me but for my opponents. I'm playing Natures prophet and i get superfat since i get aghs because my teammates are less then stellar. Score is them up 20 kills for pretty much the entire game but i manage to delay it forever by counter pushing whenever they decide to push and it takes them about 20min to realise they don´t have to port home with all 5 to stop me. So they knock on our mid rax door, wipe our entire team, me included and i call gg right there. However they decide to farm our fountain, for a long time(we are in minute 45 now or so). Meanwhile our creeps kills their t4 towers and theirs are hitting our throne with them not paying the throne the slightest attention, gotta get them kills amirite?
I port top and finish their throne. Score ends like 55 - 22 in their favor. They had three superfat carries among them a drow, our team had a void with a mom and threads as the highest nethworth behind me pretty much.
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Just lost a game where I was 50g short of BB after we got their full rax. They had a rage abandon 5min before as well.
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I'm absolutly fucking disgusted by quality of games i've been getting last 3-4 days. It's like full total retardation. Also 2 times in row BR 4 stack on EU West server? Like, seriously?
Alchemist in my last game. 10 mins, i look at him, he have nothing. Im like wtf. Dude why you have nothing. "I got bug don't see creeps hp". So instead of reloging he was sitting there doing... well, i don't even know.
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tired of -AP, because of so many fucking people picking the same fucking combos of drow, pudge, naix, nyx and whatnot. Every game, same heroes.
So I queue to RD, SD, AR and LP.
-AR: our team is 5 carry vs their extremely balanced team(and somehow they are a thousand times more coordinated too, but I guess that's what happens when everyone decides they are the most important player ever. At least I bought wards)
-RD: I am last pick, they first pick Tiny. Then our team proceeds to pick OD + Storm. Then they pick Wisp. OH WELL. First sentence of a teammate after I mention the wisp/tiny combo: "lol wisp/tiny is a weak combo"
-SD: 4carry instalock at 50s.
Still no LP game, but boy am I waiting for it.
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On February 10 2013 07:10 i99 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.
Quoting Idra, people need more self respect. try playing smarter
Well thank you Einstein. I'm actually not complaining about being unable to win against these heroes (or should I say sorry excuses for heroes), but why should I have to play smarter when all they have to do is roll their ugly dorito-munching faces against the motherfucking keyboard?
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On February 10 2013 08:28 hooahah wrote:
someone tell me of his biggest throw experience
bonus points if it doesn't have any DR involved
What about if it has TWO DR's involved? Because I may have thrown a game a long, long time ago with two DR's.
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On February 10 2013 14:10 Asvhald wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 07:10 i99 wrote:On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.
Quoting Idra, people need more self respect. try playing smarter Well thank you Einstein. I'm actually not complaining about being unable to win against these heroes (or should I say sorry excuses for heroes), but why should I have to play smarter when all they have to do is roll their ugly dorito-munching faces against the motherfucking keyboard?
As much as I could agree with most of that list, calling QoP OP and easy to play is just not true.
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Easy solution to balance is don't play AP... it's a bad game mode imho.
On to my particular (and obviously more important and relevant QQ) - POIQWEHJN_()*$@#HT^N_()$#*BNB)(*C+Q(W)E*RGH+@#()BG%&+++ goddamn man. Playing as dire, me(Zeus) + Pugna bot, Drow + BM top (AR lol), Silencer mid. Really no issues with this. Game's going more or less ok, till about 6 minutes in Drow says
"Well I'm going to leave so you guys can too"
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At first I thought maybe something came up and he had to go, but nope, he stays a few more minutes to explain that the game is hopeless, and there's no way we can win, so he's doing us all a favor by leaving. I really don't know what to think of this, given that while I don't have an especially high MMR, it's definitely pretty far removed from the "lol this is my first game wat do I do leave I guess" bracket.
Strangely, the beastmaster on our team starts to agree with him, but when the 5 minutes are up, sticks it out with us. We proceed to play till the *45* minute mark, with shenanigans like dagon silencer, dagon pugna, veil/agh's zeus just blowing things up. Finally they work out that with only 4 people, who do primarily magic damage, if they build bkb's and push on 3 lanes, we can't actually do anything about it, so we did eventually lose, but the fact that we were playing 4v5 and did that well just really makes me wonder what would have happened if Drow had had a better attitude - GG.
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On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.
Quoting Idra, people need more self respect.
Hey, leave Akasha out of it.
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Enemy team picks: AM, SILENCER ( both randomed ), FURION ( picked ), WD ( randomed ) and NYX ( PICKED ).
Our picks: Luna ( Me ), Void, Lich, SK and TA.
Game was going fine, I was hardlane with SK against WD and AM. We pretty much shut down AM, in fact he didn't have a bfury 20 minutes in. I tell my team to group up and push so we can abuse my aura and the fact that AM is pretty much useless. NOPE TA HAS TO FARM HER STUPID ITEMS ( She got rolled mid by silencer ). Fast forward to 35 minutes in. AM has bfury, manta and heart. I don't have much cuz I was forced to fight 3 vs 5 while TA and Void were farming. Add to that the fact that I was the only one to buy detection for nyx and shadow blade furion. We lose the game, TA is pretty much useless and Nyx is owning us with ZERO items.
Fun fact, the guy who PICKED nyx started trashtalking saying the game was "easy".
Turns out that him and TA were both from Russia, playing on EU-West, typing in cyrillic and spamming chat. I selected ENGLISH LANGUAGE in the options...
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I DESERVE FOR WINNING 10 GAMES IN A ROW, gj matchmaking you are clearly working fine.
edit: I almost forgot to say that the TA got an announcer at the end of the game even though she pretty much fed. " OH LITTLE BOY, YOU GOT OWNED TOO HARD ? HERE HAVE THIS ANNOUNCER SO YOU PLAY MORE ".
edit 2: OH RIGHT, I even lost the 2 games before that to PL ( they picked him ). Cool shit.
On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.
Quoting Idra, people need more self respect.
I completly agree, even though I don't consider QoP being OP. There is a Nyx, PL, Lifestealer or Drow every single fucking game. It's just not fun anymore, I seriously hope that they will get reworked soon.
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On February 10 2013 19:56 BlitzerSC wrote:Enemy team picks: AM, SILENCER ( both randomed ), FURION ( picked ), WD ( randomed ) and NYX ( PICKED ). Our picks: Luna ( Me ), Void, Lich, SK and TA. Game was going fine, I was hardlane with SK against WD and AM. We pretty much shut down AM, in fact he didn't have a bfury 20 minutes in. I tell my team to group up and push so we can abuse my aura and the fact that AM is pretty much useless. NOPE TA HAS TO FARM HER STUPID ITEMS ( She got rolled mid by silencer ). Fast forward to 35 minutes in. AM has bfury, manta and heart. I don't have much cuz I was forced to fight 3 vs 5 while TA and Void were farming. Add to that the fact that I was the only one to buy detection for nyx and shadow blade furion. We lose the game, TA is pretty much useless and Nyx is owning us with ZERO items. Fun fact, the guy who PICKED nyx started trashtalking saying the game was "easy". Turns out that him and TA were both from Russia, playing on EU-West, typing in cyrillic and spamming chat. I selected ENGLISH LANGUAGE in the options... I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I DESERVE FOR WINNING 10 GAMES IN A ROW, gj matchmaking you are clearly working fine. edit: I almost forgot to say that the TA got an announcer at the end of the game even though she pretty much fed. " OH LITTLE BOY, YOU GOT OWNED TOO HARD ? HERE HAVE THIS ANNOUNCER SO YOU PLAY MORE ". edit 2: OH RIGHT, I even lost the 2 games before that to PL ( they picked him ). Cool shit. Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.
Quoting Idra, people need more self respect. I completly agree, even though I don't consider QoP being OP. There is a Nyx, PL, Lifestealer or Drow every single fucking game. It's just not fun anymore, I seriously hope that they will get reworked soon.
My last least played mode game had nyx naix and drow lol. Luckily team was decent and managed to win laning into snowball win.
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screw this game, pub is a dice roll unless you stack
and games don't seem to be getting any better at higher mmr
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More of a qq than a rage.
I solo queued. There is a group of 3 friends on my team who pick sven, ES, tiny and insist they are trilaning bot. (We are radiant). I'm like "ok, 3 stun trilane. As long as you dominate your lane, I don't have a problem with that." They get 0 kills, die like 5 times in the laning phase against Doom and Night Stalker.... none of them has any significant cs either. It wasn't too long until I figured they were pretty new to this game and that we are going to lose. 
At least they didn't flame or talk stupidly, so it wasn't that painful. 
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On February 10 2013 23:17 don_kyuhote wrote:More of a qq than a rage. I solo queued. There is a group of 3 friends on my team who pick sven, ES, tiny and insist they are trilaning bot. (We are radiant). I'm like "ok, 3 stun trilane. As long as you dominate your lane, I don't have a problem with that." They get 0 kills, die like 5 times in the laning phase against Doom and Night Stalker.... none of them has any significant cs either. It wasn't too long until I figured they were pretty new to this game and that we are going to lose. At least they didn't flame or talk stupidly, so it wasn't that painful.
Yeah duo q & tri q r often matched in way too high mmr whereas 5 stacks should be placed higher. Can 5 stacks still q for normal games? I jsut had a game where bane refused to put a single point in enfeeble & he was duo Q with a bad meepo they dua feed bot. Duo stacks should just not get that much mmr boost.
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On February 10 2013 18:29 ArcticRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 14:10 Asvhald wrote:On February 10 2013 07:10 i99 wrote:On February 10 2013 05:07 Asvhald wrote:
This game's balance is fucking appalling. Nyxes, Lifestealers, Drows, PLs, QoPs (aka Queen O.P.) every flaming where, giving their players undeserved wins with their ability to cause havoc with minimal farm and/or brains required.
Quoting Idra, people need more self respect. try playing smarter Well thank you Einstein. I'm actually not complaining about being unable to win against these heroes (or should I say sorry excuses for heroes), but why should I have to play smarter when all they have to do is roll their ugly dorito-munching faces against the motherfucking keyboard? As much as I could agree with most of that list, calling QoP OP and easy to play is just not true.
You people who said this to me are basically right QoP is not in the same tier as these others I mentioned. Guess that was rage talking, was a bit too tired. Personally, I think she deserves a slight nerf, but that's it.
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On February 10 2013 22:04 Froob wrote:
screw this game, pub is a dice roll unless you stack
and games don't seem to be getting any better at higher mmr
AP Solo Queue: 50% of games auto-loss due to getting retarded random picks and having crap lanes as result. And 50% of games auto-won due to the other team getting crap random picks and having horrible lanes.
Its just something you have to get used to and just accept when you're playing AP or whatever else game mode while solo queuing.. That a good deal of your losses are going to come directly from picks and lane combinations as opposed to being outplayed. Once you accept that, it gets a lot less frustrating.
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On February 11 2013 01:03 Enzymatic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 22:04 Froob wrote:
screw this game, pub is a dice roll unless you stack
and games don't seem to be getting any better at higher mmr AP Solo Queue: 50% of games auto-loss due to getting retarded random picks and having crap lanes as result. And 50% of games auto-won due to the other team getting crap random picks and having horrible lanes. Its just something you have to get used to and just accept when you're playing AP or whatever else game mode while solo queuing.. That a good deal of your losses are going to come directly from picks and lane combinations as opposed to being outplayed. Once you accept that, it gets a lot less frustrating.
I don't think that is entirely true. For example, I am currently at 100 wins/80 losses, this is the first time I play a moba/dota. So that is about 55% win rate so nothing special there. But...I play a lot of my games with Bloodseeker and with Bloodseeker I am about 35 wins/10 losses. So that is a 81% win rate just with Bloodseeker. Another game we sucked, but we had this godly meepo on our team that destroyed anything and everything. Checked his account, only plays Meepo, pages and pages of Meepo. So this tells me that as an individual I can compensate for a certain amount of bad play, but only with the right hero. It also tells me that having a lot of experience with a hero matters and compensates for a lot of bad play by others.
Also, I started out as a complete newbie, and I am still a newbie. But...for the first 100 games or so I have not seen a ward ever. Now I do see wards placed/place wards myself, and people sometimes discuss what to pick. Not every game, but it does happen. So that is improvement right? Not sure how it will be in another 200 games, but still...
I still think the matchmaking system is messed up though, and this is the biggest thing for me to QQ about. Like for example, recently I have started checking what levels I am up against. I know it is not as good as a mmr, but it does say something. So what I see is that if I am grouped with level 10-16, the opponent has a group of 2 lvl30, 1lvl 12, and then two lvl 1-4. That is just stupid matchmaking, there is no way level 1 or 2 has enough experience (I remember my own first games, and I was not sure if dying as much as I did was part of the design of the game :p). The lvl 1-4 usually get completely destroyed and the higher level guys cant compensate for it so they have a terrible game. So the check range Valve uses is sometimes too wide.
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the levels don't matter that much for the most part. The only thing they're an indication of is how many games you've played, and even that is skewered because of Diretide and such that gave a lot of points. Some accounts are of people that smurf/came from Dota 1 so even though they're low level they still know how to play.
though I did play a game yesterday where the players on the other team had 1, 3, 200, 250 and 650 wins so that was a bit funny. The 1 win player (that instalocked Invoker) was...ok-ish.
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Level means even less when looking at people at level 1-5 because those guys are possibly smurfs.
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LOL just queued with 2 of my friends who are probably on the normal skill level. (im very high)
looks like im gonna get punished hard. 1-5 on my solo queue. joke mids, feeders everywhere
it's that time where you spend some games on a shit bracket
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