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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 26 2012 15:46 GMT
#2481
It's not at all though
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 26 2012 15:57 GMT
#2482
it is unless the invoker is awful
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 16:00:41
August 26 2012 15:59 GMT
#2483
God games like this are fucking amazingly frustrating. Playing on US East because I got sick of Russians, random Tiny and get a stupid easy opponent mid (gondar) so I end up completely dominating the midgame, ganking all the lanes and making it impossible for enemy to cross the river.

You'd think it's going fine, but unfortunately as the game goes on the enemy starts roaming as 5 while our midas-toting Chen and solo-farming Jakiro buy 0 wards or detection for Gondar. The enemy CK managed to get the farm he needs in lane while our PA didn't. Our supports continue farming, and we never contest a tower. As we reach lategame we have a PA with nothing but phase and battlefury, a Jakiro with a mjollnir and aghs, and a Chen who somehow still only has midas and mek. The two of the latter are of course friends who scream "noob" and "report" as their farm fails to pay off vs bounty and CK.

I really need to learn to not get relaxed when I'm dominating a game, I spent way too much time on trying to keep their heroes down as there were a lot of them that were easy for me to kill, and didn't farm lanes at all after I had my blink. Can never count on allies I guess.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 26 2012 16:08 GMT
#2484
Nope. Invoker certainly does have an advantage in mid vs SF, no doubt, but it's not a one sided stomp at all unless the SF plays carelessly. Not sure what this has anything to do with random gold being completely fucking retarded anyway.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 26 2012 16:11 GMT
#2485
unless the sf is far better than the invoker the invoker's gonna win
hon experience says that if there was no random gold ap would be way more tryhard, if ur into that kinda thing u can just play leagues or scrims or something anyway
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 26 2012 16:19 GMT
#2486
I am agreeing with you. I said invoker will have an advantage, why the fuck are you arguing? I have never once said that SF should win a lane vs invoker, why are you implying that I did? Did you even read my post?

And how does removing random gold make AP "more tryhard"? What does that even mean? You can still random all you want, you just start with 603 gold instead of 853?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 17:36:44
August 26 2012 17:35 GMT
#2487
"but it's not a one sided stomp at all unless the SF plays carelessly"
it's a onesided stomp unless the invoker plays carelessly lol

it means that people pick real lineups and wait to counterpick and stuff like that
why would anyone random if you don't get +250 gold
edit: okay people still random for fun but it's a lot less common because no fun allowed or something like that
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 17:56:09
August 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#2488
Yeah don't tryhard in dota, it's for casuals. If you want to play a moba properly go play the non-casual game league of legends. Dota isn't a fun game unless you pick carry/random/etc...
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 18:20:39
August 26 2012 18:02 GMT
#2489
yea cus people queueing pub ap games are trying to have super serious games
i guess i explained that badly, it doesn't matter if you wanna pick a real lineup or something, it's just that a lot of the time people in hon get super pissed if you random (like seriously forfeit-at-15 pissed)
of course that's not necessarily true in dota 2 but i'd imagine it to be pretty similar if random gold was removed

edit: basically tryhards are cool as long as they aren't dicks about it
i think removing random gold justified being a dick for a lot of people
plus for all the people who were already dicks it gave them another opportunity to flaunt their (very short) weiners
my highly objective analysis says that i saw about ten times as many players complain after their teammates randommed post random gold change
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
August 27 2012 05:40 GMT
#2490
lol who thinks sf can beat invokers mid? if you do you can 1v1 me, ive played invoker once but im 100% confident i will win.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 27 2012 07:32 GMT
#2491
You seriously underestimate SF's ability to 1v1, I believe dendi has even been quoted saying "SF can beat any hero mid". I've never said SF SHOULD beat invoker mid though, but he will do from time to time, and even if SF has died once and is down like 10-15 cs by the time he hits level 7, that could hardly be considered a "lost lane" because he WILL farm faster than invoker once he hits level 7 unless he gets continuously wrecked by ganks, but that has nothing to do with the SF vs invoker matchup.

And for what it's worth, my top 2 most played heroes in dota 2 are SF at #1 and invoker at #2, having played over 100 games as both heroes.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 27 2012 11:54 GMT
#2492
another game another flawless display of russians not understanding the concept of communication let alone the idea that perhaps the european server is for europeans and the Russian server is for russians.

feels wonderful to see 3 russians spam their language and then upon asking "english please?" i get bombarded with

AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX CYKA CYKA CYKA

i aint even mad about the feeding
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 27 2012 12:40 GMT
#2493
Always fun when you ask someone why they're doing something stupid (ie no points in sprint at level 8 on slardar) and you get "idi nahui cyka" as a reply.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
August 27 2012 15:24 GMT
#2494
On August 27 2012 16:32 Canas wrote:
You seriously underestimate SF's ability to 1v1, I believe dendi has even been quoted saying "SF can beat any hero mid". I've never said SF SHOULD beat invoker mid though, but he will do from time to time, and even if SF has died once and is down like 10-15 cs by the time he hits level 7, that could hardly be considered a "lost lane" because he WILL farm faster than invoker once he hits level 7 unless he gets continuously wrecked by ganks, but that has nothing to do with the SF vs invoker matchup.

And for what it's worth, my top 2 most played heroes in dota 2 are SF at #1 and invoker at #2, having played over 100 games as both heroes.


i would say getting killed and out ck in 1v1 is losing. as for farming up a mountain after lvl 7 thats a whole different story.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 27 2012 15:36 GMT
#2495
Match ID: 36008746

Just go watch that game, I was TA. That's how bad some people are.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 15:37:46
August 27 2012 15:37 GMT
#2496
Just had two 60-80 minute games with Death Prophet. Both games I had great early/mid game, got 6-7 kills without dying, pushed down all their tier 1 towers, and then eventually their 2s. And then, both games, proceed to lose slowly because my team won't stick together, no one wards.. one game Weaver went the entire game without getting boots and had a 60-minute satanic and not much else. Feels bad..
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 03:03:43
August 28 2012 02:47 GMT
#2497
AMERICA FUCK YEA

i hate playing on us servers so much

i long for SEAdoto ((((((((((
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 03:54:34
August 28 2012 03:54 GMT
#2498
On August 28 2012 11:47 zeehar wrote:
AMERICA FUCK YEA

i hate playing on us servers so much

i long for SEAdoto ((((((((((


come back then

edit: although im going to the US soon too
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#2499
On August 28 2012 12:54 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 11:47 zeehar wrote:
AMERICA FUCK YEA

i hate playing on us servers so much

i long for SEAdoto ((((((((((


come back then

edit: although im going to the US soon too


you guys :<
ffxiv enjoyer
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 28 2012 13:53 GMT
#2500
so I get this 4 man russian stack in my team, and they go 0-5 trilane against a solo bh, ok
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