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On July 03 2014 10:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Getting all the non-English speaking four stacks on EU West (and none of them were Russian).
I went Dazzle as that was my daily. Too bad none of the carries I had knew what they were doing.
1st game: French four-stack. Mirana builds four bracers. WHY!?!??!??!!
2nd game: Portugese four-stack. Just a lot of yelling on the mic, and a Spirit Breaker that tried to dive t3s to kill people (we had a Bloodseeker on the team).
3rd game: German four-stack that was higher than a kite. This group DID speak English...but because they were higher than a kite and were barely cohesive. Worst part is they picked four hard carries (LD, AM, Void, Medusa) and wondered why they were underfarmed. Crikey.
To those of you that play on the SEA servers, I feel your pain...
Playing ranked will fix this. You can't 4-stack in ranked.
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Lately I've been playing sniper with great success at around 4k mmr range. So another game, picked sniper, decent line up I think and Holly Molly, what happened in that game was beyond everything. I've got used lately that everyone whines at sniper but srsly? The game basically ended after 20minutes. I had like 3-4 with MoM build while all the others had 0-6, 0-8 etc. and who did they decide to bash on? Freaking sniper of course! Meaning me TT And their biggest whine was at the fact that I didn't level shrapnel to lv4 but left it at lv1. FUCKING SHRAPNEL as a safe lane hard carry? ARE U FACKING SERIOUS? To make it more fun, I had a support tusk who gave up First Blood there, permanently pushed the lane and whined the most about shrapenl. Fuck me sideways...
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what do you buy when you are playing spectre and you are getting ganked? right. you buy s&y
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Playing PA mid. Get phase, bkb, bfury, butterfly, sny. 17-4. Level 25 when the rest of the people are like 17-18. Then promptly lose the game because tree is level 11, Riki goes out solo and gets dustraped, and mirana can't stop jungling to help. The frustration is beyond words. Every fucking game I deal with this shit. 17-2 on viper: loss. 21-3 on meepo: loss. 11-0 on viper: loss. And people will say "if you're 2200 MMR, you probably belong there". No fucking way. I'm so much better than these scrubs. It makes me legitimately angry. How are you supposed to get out of this shitass trench 1v5? Can someone clue me in? Maybe I just need a break... I dunno
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I think ur playing "Kill the baddies 2" not "defense of the ancients 2".
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On July 03 2014 23:25 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 22:56 MentalGNT wrote:On July 02 2014 07:54 icystorage wrote:
i just realized the higher you climb the ladder, the more obnoxious people get, wow. just cancerous. I feel like there's this spot where people are 'decent but not great' but where everyone has really high opinions of themselves. Around 4k MMR in Dota people are good enough to generally know what to do, but seem to have this really inflated view of their own skill, which inevitably results in a lot of flaming. When I started out in Dota people were generally pretty chill but now that I've reached the low-4k's it seems like every other person is an asshole and wants to lecture all others on how to play. It was basically the same in SC2 where I went from bronze where people didn't give a shit to low masters where everyone was the sickest and only lost due to imbalance. Totally. I think there's a picture somewhere out there that shows, in graph form, the relationship between peoples' attitudes and their skill levels in a graph form- not surprising it's a smiling parabolic curve. I've found that these people also extend their "i'm the best" attitude to picks, resulting in everyone at this level wanting to play mid because they believe they can only win the game by themselves.
There's a graph from sc2 that shows "gg" by league. Basically measuring how many people rage quit as opposed to saying good game etc. There was a distinct drop off in ggs in master league. I would assume that's roughly the same as mid 4k in dota. Very interesting stuff
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On July 04 2014 03:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think ur playing "Kill the baddies 2" not "defense of the ancients 2".
Yeah, one of the things I thought of could be that I'm simply farming shitty players for kills rather than focusing on objectives and ending the game. The problem is, even if that were the case, I can't get my underleveled and underfarmed teammates to help me end the game. I guess I just don't have a commanding presence. Or maybe people just really don't want to be told what to do. There is little doubt in my mind that if I had 4 scrubs rally around me at t3 mid, that game still could have been won. I just don't know how to get them to do it ffs.
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I mean 5 meepos hit towers just as fast as 5 other heroes right. Plus one pair of travs gives you pretty much unlimited mobility to hit towers wherever the baddies are not.
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I suppose that's very true. I won't try to overanalyze the PA game, but the enemy team tended to hide in their base until Riki or someone came too close, then they would burrowstrike and own whoever it happened to be. Even if I was playing meepo and killed all 6 outer towers, teammates playing that kind of lone wolf dota still would have prevented me from doing anything but wandering around outside the enemy front door. I'm sure I could have done things differently. I won't dispute that. But my teammates are just determined to provide as little help as possible it seems like.
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On July 04 2014 03:23 sninja wrote:
Lately I've been playing sniper with great success at around 4k mmr range. So another game, picked sniper, decent line up I think and Holly Molly, what happened in that game was beyond everything. I've got used lately that everyone whines at sniper but srsly? The game basically ended after 20minutes. I had like 3-4 with MoM build while all the others had 0-6, 0-8 etc. and who did they decide to bash on? Freaking sniper of course! Meaning me TT And their biggest whine was at the fact that I didn't level shrapnel to lv4 but left it at lv1. FUCKING SHRAPNEL as a safe lane hard carry? ARE U FACKING SERIOUS? To make it more fun, I had a support tusk who gave up First Blood there, permanently pushed the lane and whined the most about shrapenl. Fuck me sideways...
If you aren't soloing, you should be maxing shrapnel first. Even if you are soloing, I wouldn't recommend it. Two points in headshot, and one in take aim is all you need. Shrapnel gives you way more versatility, and makes you far more of a factor early game.
However, it does sound like your teammates were throwing that game so it really wouldn't have mattered what build you went with.
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Cap just picked meepo... this is either going to go REALLY well or I will finish bitching in a second
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On July 04 2014 03:29 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Playing PA mid. Get phase, bkb, bfury, butterfly, sny. 17-4. Level 25 when the rest of the people are like 17-18. Then promptly lose the game because tree is level 11, Riki goes out solo and gets dustraped, and mirana can't stop jungling to help. The frustration is beyond words. Every fucking game I deal with this shit. 17-2 on viper: loss. 21-3 on meepo: loss. 11-0 on viper: loss. And people will say "if you're 2200 MMR, you probably belong there". No fucking way. I'm so much better than these scrubs. It makes me legitimately angry. How are you supposed to get out of this shitass trench 1v5? Can someone clue me in? Maybe I just need a break... I dunno
You just don't seem to take advantage of your kills. Especially with Meepo. 21-3 should be a pretty easy win if you have played well.
And I know a lot, a lot, A LOT of people who would win every single game at 2.2k rating. So maybe you belong a bit higher up, but not that much higher up if you have trouble climbing..
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QQ with TI4 close noone streams anymore
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Our Alche gives up and goes afk farm in woods for the entire game for something I don't know. I think Venge accidently took one creep or something, and he goes mad like this... what in the actual fuck? Who does that? And he wasn't even trolling. He wrote to the enemy team (he muted all of us even when no one flamed him) that it was Venge and Treant being idiots. Even the enemy team said that he threw the game by leaving the lane...
Two shit games like this today...why can't we permanently ban people like this Alch? It's not like they're going to learn by acting like total dicks.
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On July 04 2014 07:18 Jukei wrote:
QQ with TI4 close noone streams anymore
This is the worst part about TI. No tournaments or streams just before or after. :< I was used to being able to watch tournament streams almost 24/7.
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People that buy accounts to get into the 5k MMR bracket then fucking blow a massive cock need to go reevaluate themselves. You're in trench tier for a reason. This shit is an epidemic.
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/756726655
The games I get when I queue with my noob friends. Bloodseeker and Broodmother were our pub players. Sure we got counter picked pretty hard but nothing excuses Bloodseeker feeding 16 kills. It's nice to play with friends occasionally but what the fuck.
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ok, so I need to this off my chest. I saw it coming 3-4 weeks ago with the tinker-special tp-boots and the occasional tinker pick in pro games. Rant inside: + Show Spoiler +NOW THE FUCKING CANCER HAS ARRIVED EVERY FUCKING GAME AT 5K RATING THERE IS A TINKER AND HE AND HIS TEAM IS APPARENTLY NOT COMPLETELY RETARDED SO THEY HELP HIM GET TP BOOTS AFTER WHICH THE GAME IS NO LONGER A FUN 5V5 PVP GAME IT IS A FUCKING SHITFEST WHERE EVERYONE WANTS TO CLAW THEIR EYES OUT BUT FOR THE TINKER PLAYER WHO THINKS IT IS GREAT, YOU CANT GO SOLO BECAUSE THEN TINKER RAPES YOU YOU CANT GANK HIM BECAUSE REARM TAKES AWAY DAMAGE CD ON BLINK AND YOU CANT PUSH BECAUSE MARCH IS THE BEST ANTIPUSH IN THE GAME AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE DONE YOUR BEST TRYING TO SUPPORT THE TEAM IN 50 MINS 1 PERSON MAKES 1 MISSTEP AND GAME IS FUCKING LOST FUCK TINKER FUCK THE FUCKING TINKER PICKERS BRING BACK EARTH SPIRIT AS HE WAS OR EMBER OR GIVE QOP A FREE DAGON 5 AT THE START OF ANY GAME ANYTHING BUT THE CANCER JESUS CHRIST WHY MAKE A HERO THAT AFTER YOU GO 0-3 IN 10 MINS YOU GET YOUR TP BOOTS AND THEN PROCEED TO MAKE THE GAME HORRIBLE FOR EVERYONE BUT ONE PLAYER?????? IT SUCKS TO LOSE TO TINKER IT SUCKS TO WIN WITH TINKER AND IT EVEN MOTHERFUCKING SUCKS TO WIN AGAINST TINKER BECAUSE HE HAS MADE YOU WASTE 50 MINS OF YOUR LIFE BANGING YOUR HEAD AGAINST A WALL
That said, I am actually gonna either pick batrider or instapick tinker and repick him into whatever as soon as all other players have picked. Or maybe I am just not playing this game for a month. The jury is out on this one yet.
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3rd world internet w limited bandwidth. too many hats to download. wow
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My friend picked Spectre after the enemy team got Ursa+Tiny+Wisp in their lineup, and we lost because of that pick, even though I tried hardest to secure our team an early advantage with Necrolyte. And I had to explain to him in a full page why Ursa + Tiny are bad matchups for Spectre. He was predominantly a support player as well so if he just stuck to his guns and picked something like Lion or Bane we would have sealed the game in 30 mins...qq
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