EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 1103
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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VieuxSinge
France231 Posts
On July 02 2014 22:29 hooahah wrote: I don't understand Miranas that go glass cannon. I understand getting damage (you better get damage) but how about SOME hp? Linkens? BKB? Drums? anything? No, you better go Phase->Mjollnir->Daedelus against Tinker/Void. Good fucking job. And then there's the Lina that went Phase->Bloodstone->Deso->Daedelus. Forcestaff? Ghost Scepter? Euls? Hex? every single time, I lose with Chaos Knight for some retarded reason. This time it was Mirana+Lina's builds, and the one player with the good build (Bottle/Blink/Aghs Brew) had to abandon. The hero is cursed for me http://dotabuff.com/players/54718133/matches?date=&faction=&hero=chaos-knight&lobby_type=&game_mode=®ion=&duration= If you have 20% winrate with Chaos Knight, you should start asking yourself what else can you do to improve your gameplay instead of continuously blaming your teammates ^^ Sure Lina with phase, bs, deso Mjol and Daeda is not a common build, but it doesn't mean it's what made your team lose if you still had a support doing the job. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On July 02 2014 23:37 VieuxSinge wrote: If you have 20% winrate with Chaos Knight, you should start asking yourself what else can you do to improve your gameplay instead of continuously blaming your teammates ^^ Sure Lina with phase, bs, deso Mjol and Daeda is not a common build, but it doesn't mean it's what made your team lose if you still had a support doing the job. I know. Something's wrong with the way I play Chaos Knight. But I swear that nearly every time I get some kind of a retard on my team that fucks things up. I would've won if the Brew hadn't abandoned. The thing is that they had an infinitely superior lategame composition, that's the problem with Lina going the build she did. That and the fact that I think Bloodstone is an absolutely awful item on everyone except a select few heroes, which Lina is not one of. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
DON'T FUCKING MANFIGHT THEM, SPLIT PUSH AND FARM. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 02 2014 22:29 hooahah wrote: And then there's the Lina that went Phase->Bloodstone->Deso->Daedelus. Forcestaff? Ghost Scepter? Euls? Hex? That is a very viable hard carry build for Lina. It is NOT the most common build, true, but very viable considering her farm. Looking at the match info, you had a Lion playing hard support. Now if she was stealing most your farm, that's another story...but if she snowballed ganking from mid often, then that's fair play. EDIT: Just saw your latter post. I actually disagree - I see several semi-carry builds with Lina having bloodstone so she can spam spells but for full carry, I believe bloodstone is skipped for rushing crit, deso, bkb and either of MKB/aghs. Full-on damage build. To be fair, regardless of whether you or Lina was #1, they had both a Weaver and Void on Dire, and both will outcarry the two of you. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
it's REALLY fun when the other team can't speak a word of english but sure knows how to spam jajaja and yiyiyi from their hovels in whatever bumfuck developing country and it's REALLY FUN when faceless void does nothing but press R all game and gets a fucking mythical drop at the end of it | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
These fucking global push strats are bullshit to play against | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
gg | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Hint: + Show Spoiler + Letting brood get T1 and T2 (you probably get the other T1s by this point too) and then transitioning into pushing broods lane AS FUCKING FIVE is a super strong strategy. You snowball off of your tower gold, take rax off it. The pushing power of brood allows for early rax as 5. But for some reason every single brood player actually think thats bad and want us to run around in small groups while she gets picked off solo outside base doing only chip damage to T3s. Yea that strat works if you are way ahead, but its making it so much harder its stupid. I just had a game where brood gets T1. Theres a fight in the lane, we win the fight, we get T2. Then a bit later another fight, we win the other fight too, get T3 + ranged rax. Then we spend 10minutes arguing. But no, Brood DOES. NOT. WANT. ANYONE. TO. COME. We dont even have T2 in the other side lane. Melee rax is exposed. We're clearly way ahead. But she does not want it. She wants to get it alone. She does not want anyone else than her to hit it. So for 10min we get picked off, sure we get their last T2, but no progress anywhere else. When brood dies for the third time since ranged rax goes down, she actually agrees to push 5. We push 5, we wipe them, force carry BB and still get melee rax. Another 5man push secures megas and we win. HOLY SHIT WAS THAT HARD. http://imgur.com/r6JKdhg Dots being us getting ranged rax, us getting melee and us getting megas (game over). | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On July 03 2014 04:24 Half the Sky wrote: That is a very viable hard carry build for Lina. It is NOT the most common build, true, but very viable considering her farm. Looking at the match info, you had a Lion playing hard support. Now if she was stealing most your farm, that's another story...but if she snowballed ganking from mid often, then that's fair play. EDIT: Just saw your latter post. I actually disagree - I see several semi-carry builds with Lina having bloodstone so she can spam spells but for full carry, I believe bloodstone is skipped for rushing crit, deso, bkb and either of MKB/aghs. Full-on damage build. To be fair, regardless of whether you or Lina was #1, they had both a Weaver and Void on Dire, and both will outcarry the two of you. She started as a support but her&Mirana got a lot of kills so she transitioned into DPS. But as you said, the other team had far, far superior lategame. I don't think Bloodstone is a good item. Sure you can spam spells, but you don't need to spam spells for a long while, just for a fight - and a euls should be more than enough to supplement that. A Euls would also render FV's chronos useless, set up her stun and break Weaver's Linkens. Effectively what happened was that as soon as FV, Weaver, Tinker and NP got any sort of respectable farm she just completely fell off. Nevermind a Blink...god we needed her to go Blink. Bloodstone doesn't give you +armor or any sort of utility, just more HP and the ability to spam spells. If you're far ahead, sure, build it - but you're gonna win pretty much with anything. If you're behind, the only thing that Bloodstone is going to do is make you live for +1 second. That's 5k gold for what a Ghost Scepter would do much, much better. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I went Dazzle as that was my daily. Too bad none of the carries I had knew what they were doing. 1st game: French four-stack. Mirana builds four bracers. WHY!?!??!??!! 2nd game: Portugese four-stack. Just a lot of yelling on the mic, and a Spirit Breaker that tried to dive t3s to kill people (we had a Bloodseeker on the team). 3rd game: German four-stack that was higher than a kite. This group DID speak English...but because they were higher than a kite and were barely cohesive. Worst part is they picked four hard carries (LD, AM, Void, Medusa) and wondered why they were underfarmed. Crikey. To those of you that play on the SEA servers, I feel your pain... | ||
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DougJDempsey
747 Posts
On June 29 2014 13:59 Buckyman wrote: The game has been giving me a lot of useless purple balls I can't get rid of recently. But it's outdone itself this time. It gave me a card pack that I could only get rid of by turning it into several useless items. It's almost like Valve wants to force me to get a compendium and/or Steam wallet. Or doesn't believe that players with neither exist. They exist... Like my 12 year old cousin... He doesnt have it.. Or me when i was 12 :D | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
What a disaster... | ||
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i.exies
United Kingdom28 Posts
as a creep bopper HOLY FUCKING HELL PEOPLE THAT PLAY SUPPORT ARE THE MOST DIMWITTED PEOPLE EVER. why why why would you ever win the lane for the enemy offlaner. Antimage vs tide?! better cripple his lane by afk sapping the exp trying to harass the tide pulling the creep aggro fucking my carries lane equilibrium ; or better yet better go pull , oops i missed the chain pull and doublestacked your wave. "GG enemy offlane tide is level 6, 5 minutes into the game" God damn. | ||
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
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MentalGNT
Denmark1264 Posts
On July 02 2014 07:54 icystorage wrote: i just realized the higher you climb the ladder, the more obnoxious people get, wow. just cancerous. I feel like there's this spot where people are 'decent but not great' but where everyone has really high opinions of themselves. Around 4k MMR in Dota people are good enough to generally know what to do, but seem to have this really inflated view of their own skill, which inevitably results in a lot of flaming. When I started out in Dota people were generally pretty chill but now that I've reached the low-4k's it seems like every other person is an asshole and wants to lecture all others on how to play. It was basically the same in SC2 where I went from bronze where people didn't give a shit to low masters where everyone was the sickest and only lost due to imbalance. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On July 03 2014 22:56 MentalGNT wrote: I feel like there's this spot where people are 'decent but not great' but where everyone has really high opinions of themselves. Around 4k MMR in Dota people are good enough to generally know what to do, but seem to have this really inflated view of their own skill, which inevitably results in a lot of flaming. When I started out in Dota people were generally pretty chill but now that I've reached the low-4k's it seems like every other person is an asshole and wants to lecture all others on how to play. It was basically the same in SC2 where I went from bronze where people didn't give a shit to low masters where everyone was the sickest and only lost due to imbalance. Totally. I think there's a picture somewhere out there that shows, in graph form, the relationship between peoples' attitudes and their skill levels in a graph form- not surprising it's a smiling parabolic curve. I've found that these people also extend their "i'm the best" attitude to picks, resulting in everyone at this level wanting to play mid because they believe they can only win the game by themselves. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
I have a positive winrate (53%), my MMR is going up but it takes forever because a single loss sets you back so far. And quite often you can't outperform your awful teammates, i don't mind losing because the other team is simply better but i want to at least have a chance. All i want from my teammates is that they don't feed, carry tps, buy appropriate items, defend towers as 5, help teammates that are getting dived and push at the appropriate time (if that is 70 minutes in the game it is 70 minutes in the game if it is 5 minutes in the game it is 5 minutes in the game). The amount of people that are impatient and want to go balls to the wall with super late game carrys is annoying me a great deal. | ||
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