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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 20 2014 21:42 GMT
#20541
On April 21 2014 06:06 Fatalize wrote:
I like how you cant even defend Lycan with KOTL

Fucking fucktard hero for pieces of shit


merde
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
April 20 2014 22:00 GMT
#20542
It makes me sad getting flamed for buying Blink on Ursa, my party MMR is just dropping like crazy recently.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
April 20 2014 22:30 GMT
#20543
On April 21 2014 06:42 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 06:06 Fatalize wrote:
I like how you cant even defend Lycan with KOTL

Fucking fucktard hero for pieces of shit


merde

Pardon my French, but this hero deserves it
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
April 20 2014 22:53 GMT
#20544
On April 20 2014 07:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Buddy of mine around my level was coaching a buddy of his at a much lower level. Well, trying to... he got so fed up he said "Sorry man, I can't do this anymore... the Skywrath has 3 boots and he is on the winning team. He is the leader in kills! I can't do this anymore".

[image loading]

Don't blame him. That's the "best" player in that game, holy hell.


Cmon man cant you see it, 10 hp regen a second, insane movespeeed, mana for you and allies and teleport to everywere

IMBALANCED
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 20 2014 23:45 GMT
#20545
I think i didn't win a single game against TB. Why does it take so long to nerf a hero to oblivion?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 20 2014 23:53 GMT
#20546
On April 20 2014 07:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Buddy of mine around my level was coaching a buddy of his at a much lower level. Well, trying to... he got so fed up he said "Sorry man, I can't do this anymore... the Skywrath has 3 boots and he is on the winning team. He is the leader in kills! I can't do this anymore".

[image loading]

Don't blame him. That's the "best" player in that game, holy hell.

Holy shit, I am never complaining about my MMR ever again. I mean, I had "2 buckler into straight heart, cause fuck blink dagger, I got an Ax" but that was fine. Not that level of trash.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
April 21 2014 00:06 GMT
#20547
I now believe in the trench.

I'm not denying all the experiments where 5k players took accounts at 2.7k and brought them up, but I do think that there's a space roughly 5-700 MMR from your 'true' level where you can get stuck. A space where you're clearly the best player, but also not enough the best to drag your team, kicking and screaming, to victory. You'll eventually make it back to where you theoretically should be, but it'll be slow, and painful and fucking arduous.

This is basically a complaint about how I had a 55% winrate across 800 games of unranked, and now a 40% winrate in ~80 games of ranked, despite feeling like I'm playing better in those games.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:19:15
April 21 2014 00:17 GMT
#20548
500-700 MMR fluctuation just normal variance. The system doesn't have the ability to resolve your rating better than that, so being "stuck" there isn't really something you should care about.

There's a reason that other games have systems like "leagues" and "divisions"--it's because when given a raw rating, people over-think the number they're given and believe the system has far higher resolution than it actually does so giving people general groupings tends to do a better job of portraying the same information.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
April 21 2014 00:20 GMT
#20549
Really the only thing TB needs to be balanced is a nerf to Reflection. Just change the scaling so it has to be leveled to be great. If his laning was like PL's (but with more risk, since he doesn't have invis, and more reward since he's a much better early pusher/jungler) he'd be completely fine. No better than any of the other excellent hard carries out there. It's the combination of incredible carry potential and excellent kill power in lane that makes him good.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
April 21 2014 00:22 GMT
#20550
On April 21 2014 09:17 TheYango wrote:
500-700 MMR fluctuation just normal variance. The system doesn't have the ability to resolve your rating better than that, so being "stuck" there isn't really something you should care about.

There's a reason that other games have systems like "leagues" and "divisions"--it's because when given a raw rating, people over-think the number they're given and believe the system has far higher resolution than it actually does so giving people general groupings tends to do a better job of portraying the same information.


Oh, I agree with that. I'm defining "the trench" as the point at which it's easier to lose MMR while playing well than it is to gain it back. I'm not saying it matters at all, just that it's a frustrating part of the Dota experience.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 21 2014 00:23 GMT
#20551
More likely TB is just going to get another remake again. He's had a million remakes already so another one wouldn't hurt.
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
April 21 2014 01:01 GMT
#20552
On April 21 2014 08:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Buddy of mine around my level was coaching a buddy of his at a much lower level. Well, trying to... he got so fed up he said "Sorry man, I can't do this anymore... the Skywrath has 3 boots and he is on the winning team. He is the leader in kills! I can't do this anymore".

[image loading]

Don't blame him. That's the "best" player in that game, holy hell.

Holy shit, I am never complaining about my MMR ever again. I mean, I had "2 buckler into straight heart, cause fuck blink dagger, I got an Ax" but that was fine. Not that level of trash.


That's amazing. I really really hope it's because someone told him to go double "stout shield" and only the "shield" part stuck.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
April 21 2014 01:21 GMT
#20553
Hm. Our Zeus got doomed and he was about to die anyway so I deny him. He goes wtf and asked my why I killed him. ~_~ He goes on to bitch on how he should watch out for his teammates because they might try to kill him. Sigh, isn't it common knowledge by now that you should try your best to deny your teammate when they get doomed (assuming that it is the best course of action)? I'm pretty sure that Doom won't get the money but I don't know if it will affect the respawn timer. lesigh.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 21 2014 01:29 GMT
#20554
Played against a double-necrobook Refresher Lycan. The backdoor was real. Rax fell within the 3 sec of TP. Like .. wat.
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 21 2014 01:39 GMT
#20555
Seriously GIVE BACK THE GODDAMN SOLO QUEUE.


It is NOT fun to spend two hours across two games getting nothing but abuse and harrassment from the teams I'm on for literally no reason whatsoever for the entire game with them happily ganging up to yell shit and report me. Its a lost game before I've even started for one thing. For another for some reason you've cleared out the thirty reports I had stacked up so I can't even report all of them for the abuse because you've reset them to 6.

I have had a thoroughly miserable evening and it is ENTIRELY down to people in goddamn stacks. Give back the solo queue.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
April 21 2014 01:40 GMT
#20556
On April 21 2014 09:23 TheYango wrote:
More likely TB is just going to get another remake again. He's had a million remakes already so another one wouldn't hurt.


I know I probably deserve to burn in hell for this comment, but I like TB as he is, please don't remake him again. Lots of small incremental changes can be made to balance this hero out.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
SKYFISH__
Profile Joined December 2013
Bulgaria153 Posts
April 21 2014 08:12 GMT
#20557
and ofc, if there is a balnced spirit on my team its a flaming russian and his buddy picks pudge to support him in lane )))
bonus points for the retards who random slightly difficult heroes then fail miserably to play them
wut
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
April 21 2014 09:56 GMT
#20558
is there like a new random drops policy? Something like you get just the item you already have?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 15:58:37
April 21 2014 10:49 GMT
#20559
On April 21 2014 10:39 -Celestial- wrote:
Seriously GIVE BACK THE GODDAMN SOLO QUEUE.


It is NOT fun to spend two hours across two games getting nothing but abuse and harrassment from the teams I'm on for literally no reason whatsoever for the entire game with them happily ganging up to yell shit and report me. Its a lost game before I've even started for one thing. For another for some reason you've cleared out the thirty reports I had stacked up so I can't even report all of them for the abuse because you've reset them to 6.

I have had a thoroughly miserable evening and it is ENTIRELY down to people in goddamn stacks. Give back the solo queue.


Most irritating part of not having soloqeue atm for me is that when you accept a match and someoneelse declines, you get a higher priority which basically means getting paired with stacks. If someone declines a match or it takes more then 4 minutes to find one, just cancel search and start a new one. It feels to be working, i still loose matches and stuff like that but no more funky radiance+medusa trolllololol builds and stuff like that.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
April 21 2014 11:15 GMT
#20560
http://dotabuff.com/matches/620652978

Gotta love games like this

A fucktard that literally picks Lycan every game (already played against this guy)

Tree + Undying stack of 2 top cause they are tards abusing the fact that you queue in stacks in this shit matchmaking and get impossible lanes to lose with

And of course the obligatory ember picker


Nothing but fucktards in this game
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