EPTThe extra ggs make such a small difference when people can barely lasthit anyway. Just buy your own damn regen, 2ks.
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The extra ggs make such a small difference when people can barely lasthit anyway. Just buy your own damn regen, 2ks. | ||
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I don't think it's worth capturing in the guide except maybe as guide text somewhere for that small group of people who know to pool tangos, but don't know what to spend the extra gold on. Even then like the worst case scenario is they don't spend the gold they save and get their bottle or whatever they build first slightly earlier. | ||
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 ClockwerkAdded Tranquil Boots Moved Bottle to Early Game Moved Magic Wand to Core Items Removed Power Treads  Shadow Shaman (Support)New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Ether Shock 2. Shackles 3. Hex) Moved Aether Lens to Situational Items  TinkerMoved Dagon - Level 5 to Core Items Removed Bloodstone  Lifestealer (Core) Lifestealer (Jungle)Added Iron Branch to Starting Items Added Iron Branch to Starting Items Added Blightstone to Early Game Added Bloodthron to Extension Items Moved Quelling Blade to Starting Items Removed Healing Salve Removed Daedalus  JuggernautAdded Yasha to Core Items Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core Items Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items Moved Battlefury to Situational Items Removed Magic Wand Abaddon Added Urn of Shadows to Core Items (Support) Added Echo Sabre to Core Items (Offlane) Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items Removed Magic Wand Outworld Devourer New Skill Build: W E W E W E W Q R E R Q Q Q R (1. Astral Imprisonment 2. Essence Aura 3. Arcane Orb)  Warlock (Core)New Skill Build: W Stats W Q W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Shadow Word 2. Fatal Bonds 3. Upheaval) Warlock (Support)New Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W E Q Q R E E E R (1. Shadow Word 2. Fatal Bonds 3. Upheaval)  Kunkka (Core)New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Tidebringer 2. X Marks the Spot 3. Torrent) Created New Tab: "Early Game" Moved Daedalus to Core Items Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items Removed Gauntlet of Strength Removed Magic Wand Removed Shadow Blade Kunkka (Support)New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R E Q E W R W W W R (1. Torrent 2. X Marks the Spot 3. Tidebringer)  MorphlingNew Skill Build: E Q Q E Q E Q E R W R W W W R (1. Waveform 2. Morph 3. Adaptive Strike) Added Circlet of Nobility to Starting Items Added Wraith Band to Early Game Added Hurricane Pike to Extension Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Removed Ring of Basilius Removed Ring of Protection Removed Satanic Drow Ranger New Skill Build: E Q E Q W R E E W W R W Q Q (1. Precision Aura 2. Gust 3. Frost Arrows) Added Shadow Blade to Core Items  OmniknightMoved Magic Wand to Core Items Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items  LunaNew Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Lucent Beam 2. Moon Glaive 3. Lunar Blessing) Moved Magic Wand to Early Game Moved Power Treads to Early Game Moved Helm of the Dominator to Core Items Moved Hurricane Pike to Extension Items Removed Wraith Band Removed Boots of Speed Underlord (Support) Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items Removed Force Staff Underlord (Offlane) New Skill Build: E W Q Q Q W Q R W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura) Added Boots of Speed to Early Game Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items Removed Iron Talon Removed Force Staff  Sniper (Core/Mid)New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Shrapnel 2. Take Aim 3. Headshot) Added Shadow Blade to Core Items Added Silver Edge to Situational Items Moved Manta Style to Extension Items Removed Healing Salve Removed Iron Branch x2 Sniper (Core/Safe)Added Wraith Band to Starting Items Added Shadow Blade to Core Items Added Silver Edge to Situational Items Moved Manta Style to Extension Items Removed Healing Salve Removed Iron Branch x2 Keeper of the Light New Skill Build: W E E Q E Q E R Q Q W W W R R (1 Chakra Magic 2 Illuminate 3 Mana Leak) Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items Moved Mekansm to Situational Items Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items  Shadow FiendAdded Hurricane Pike to Situational Items  BroodmotherAdded Sage's Mask to Starting Items Removed Quelling Blade Removed Stout Shield  Invoker (Quas/Exort)New Skill Build: E Q E Q E Q E Q W E R E E R W R W W W W W Q Q Q R (1.Exort 2. Wex. 3. Quas) Added Ring of Basilius to Early Game Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items Removed Magic Wand Night Stalker New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q E R Q E E R W W W R (1. Void 2. Hunter in the Night 3. Crippling Fear)  Phantom AssassinAdded Blightstone to Core Items  Bloodseeker (Jungle)Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items Removed Heaven's Halberd Legion Commander (Core) New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q E W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage) New Skill Build: E W E Q Q R Q Q W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage) Added Phase Boots to Core Items Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items Removed Bottle Removed Power Treads Removed Vladmir's Offering Removed Drum of Endurance Removed Sange & Yasha Legion Commander (Jungle) New Skill Build: E W E Q Q R Q Q W W R W E E R (1. Overwhelming Odds 2. Press The Attack 3. Moment of Courage) Added Phase Boots to Core Items Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items Removed Power Treads Removed Vladmir's Offering Removed Drum of Endurance Removed Sange & Yasha  MedusaNew Skill Build: W E W E W R W Q Q Q Q E E R R (1. Mystic Snake 2. Split Shot 3. Mana Shield) Created New Tab: "Early Game" Added Bottle to 'Early Game' Added Boots of Speed to 'Early Game' Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items Added Mjollnir to Extension Items Moved Ring of Aquila to 'Early Game' Moved Linken's Sphere to Core Items Moved Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Removed Magic Wand Removed Monkey King Bar  Silencer (Core)Added Drum of Endurance to Core Items Moved Hurricane Pike to Core Items Moved Veil of Discord to Extension Items Removed Force Staff Removed Aghanim's Scepter Removed Refresher Orb Silencer (Support)New Skill Build: W Q E E E R E W W W R Q Q Q (1. Last Word 2. Arcane Curse 3. Glaives of Wisdom) Added Animal Courier to Starting Items Added Observer Ward to Starting Items Added Wind Lace to Starting Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Added Force Staff to Extension Items Removed Healing Salve Removed Clarity Removed Iron Branch Removed Rod of Atos Removed Hurricane Pike Removed Assault Cuirass Removed Refresher Orb  SpectreCreated New Tab: "Luxury Items" Added Tango to Starting Items Added Abyssal Blade to "Luxury Items" Added Refresher Orb to "Luxury Items" Added Boots of Travel to "Luxury Items" Moved Phase Boots to Early Game Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items Removed Healing Salve  Slark (Core/Safe)Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game Added Iron Talon to Core Items Moved Silver Edge to Core Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Removed Iron Branch x2 Removed Wraith Band Removed Quelling Blade Slark (Core/Mid)Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items Added Iron Branch to Starting Items Moved Silver Edge to Core Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Removed Enchanted Mango Removed Faerie Fire Removed Stout Shield Removed Wraith Band Removed Quelling Blade The Hero Builds Project can now be found at: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kfelrWh.png) PlayDota.com * * * & * * * ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/apAkR38.png) /r/HeroBuilds + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CzMYkMR.png) The front page of this topic has also been completely revamped and spaced between two posts to reduce loading | ||
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On October 28 2016 06:20 Birdie wrote: I'm sure Shadow Blade shouldn't be core on Sniper and Hurricane Pike should be. In competitive matches where the line-ups are built around Sniper, correct. Though Shadow Blade is bought as well (just after H. Pike). In public matches, Shadow Blade comes a lot earlier than H. Pike. | ||
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Windranger (Core/Safe) Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items Removed Force Staff  Lina (Core)Added Phase Boots to Core Items Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items Removed Arcane Boots Removed Refresher Orb Removed Daedalus Removed Mjolnnir Removed Eye of Skadi Lina (Support)Added Wind Lace to Starting Items Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Moved Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items Removed Observer Ward Removed Iron Branch Removed Healing Salve Removed Refresher Orb Removed Daedalus  Alchemst (Core/Safe)New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Acid Spray 2. Unstable Concoction 3. Greevil's Greed) Created New Tab: "Early Game" Added Tango to Starting Items Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game" Added Soul Ring to "Early Game" Added Medallion of Courage to Core Items Added Shadow Blade to Core Items Added Blade Mail to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Added Mjollnir to Extension Items Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items Moved Healing Salve to "Early Game" Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items Removed Iron Branch x2 Removed Bottle Removed Hand of Midas Removed Blink Dagger Removed Skull Basher Troll Warlord (Core/Safe) New Skill Build: Q W E Q E E E R Q Q R W W W R (1. Berserker's Rage 2. Fervor 3. Whirling Axes) Created New Tab: "Situational Items" Added Tango to Starting Items Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game Added Blink Dagger to "Situational Items" Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to "Situational Items" Added Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items" Added Manta Style to "Situational Items" Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Moved Ring of Aquila to Core Items Removed Faerie Fire Removed Iron Branch x2 Removed Quelling Blade Removed Wraith Band Removed Butterfly Troll Warlord (Core/Mid) New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Whirling Axes 2. Berserker's Rage 3. Fervor) Created New Tab: "Situational Items" Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items Added Tango to Starting Items Added Shadow Blade to Core Items Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core Items Added Silver Edge to Situational Items Added Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items" Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Moved Helm of the Dominator to Early Game Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items Removed Stout Shield Removed Faerie Fire Removed Iron Branch x2 Removed Quelling Blade Removed Ring of Aquila Removed Butterfly Skywrath Mage (Core) Added Ethereal Blade to Extension Items Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items Moved Veil of Discord to Core Items Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items Moved Aether Lens to Situational Items Moved Force Staff to Extension Items Removed Arcane Boots Removed Magic Wand Remove Bloodstone  BristlebackCreated New Tab: "Early Game" Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game" Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Situational Items Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items Moved Ring of Basilius to "Early Game" Moved Magic Wand to "Early Game" Moved Vanguard to "Early Game" Moved Crimson Guard to Core Items Moved Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items Naga Siren (Core) New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R Q Q E W R W W W R (1. Rip Tide 2, Mirror Image 3. Ensnare) Added Diffusal Blade - Level 1 to Core Items Added Boots of Travel - Level 2 to Extension Items Moved Iron Talon to Early Game Moved Manta Style to Core Items  MeepoNew Skill Build: W Q R W W E W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Poof 2. Geostrike 3. Earthbind) Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items Added Dragon Lance to Core Items Moved Hurricane Pike to Situational Items Removed Iron Branch Removed Mekansm Removed Heart of Tarrasque  BatriderNew Skill Build: Q E Q E E R E W W W R W Q Q R (1. Firefly 2. Flamebreak 3. Sticky Napalm) Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items Removed Wind Lace  HuskarAdded Monkey King Bar to Extension Items Removed Daedalus  MiranaNew Skill Build: W E Q Q Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Starstorm 2. Leap 3. Sacred Arrow) Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Moved Linken's Sphere to Situational Items Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items Removed Hand of Midas Removed Magic Wand Removed Hand of Midas Removed Drum of Endurance Removed Black King Bar Removed Shiva's Guard  IONew Skill Build: Q E W W W R W E E E R Q Q Q R (1. Spirits 2. Overcharge 3. Tether) Added Arcane Boots to Core Items Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items Removed Drum of Endurance Removed Boots of Travel Nature's Prophet Added Iron Talon to Starting Items Added Dragon Lance to Core Items Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items Removed Iron Branch x3 Removed Faerie Fire x2 Removed Ring of Protection Removed Clarity Removed Silver Edge  PugnaAdded Observer Ward to Starting Items Added Wind Lace to Starting Items Added Arcane Boots to Core Items Added Blink Dagger to Extension Items Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items Moved Force Staff to Extension Items Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items Removed Ring of Protection Removed Enchanted Mango Removed Healing Salve Removed Power Treads Removed Necromonicon - Level 3 Removed Guardian Greaves  MagnusNew Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Shockwave 2. Empower 3. Skewer) Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items Moved Bottle to Core Items Removed Iron Branch x2 Removed Boots of Speed  SlardarNew Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W Q Q E R E E E R (1. Slithereen Crush 2. Sprint 3. Bash) Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items Moved Force Staff to Core Items Moved Armlet of Mordiggian to Situational Items Removed Desolator Shadow FiendCreated New Tab: "Early Game" Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game" Added Dragon Lance to Core Items Moved Healing Salve to "Early Game" Moved Bottle to "Early Game" Moved Ring of Aquila to "Early Game"  RikiAdded Sentry Wards to Starting Items Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items Removed Clarity Removed Iron Branch x2 Removed Observer Ward Removed Hand of Midas  EnigmaAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational Items  JakiroAdded Wind Lace to Starting Items Added Guardian Greaves to Situational Items Removed Enchanted Mango Removed Iron Branch x2  PuckAdded Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Veil of Discord to Core Items Crystal Maiden Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items  RazorAdded Boots of Travel to Extension Items Chaos Knight Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items  Phantom LancerAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational Items BroodmotherAdded Echo Sabre to Situational Items Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items Added Butterfly to Extension Items Moved Manta Style to Stiuational Items Removed Sange & Yasha Removed Vladmir's Offering LunaAdded Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Removed Moon Shard  Axe (Core)Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items Added Vanguard to Core Items Removed Healing Salve Removed Iron Branch x2 Axe (Jungle)Added Iron Talon to Core Items  Weaver (Core/Safe)Added Blight Stone to Early Game Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items Removed Aghanim's Scepter Renamed Offlane Weaver (Core/Mid)Created New Tab: "Early Game" Added Tango to Starting Items Added Observer Ward to Starting Items Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items Added Blight Stone to "Early Game" Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game" Added Dragon Lance to Core Items Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items Moved Ring of Aquila to "Early Game" Moved Linken's Sphere to Core Items Moved Bottle to Situational Items Moved Desolator to Situational Items Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items | ||
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On November 06 2016 08:12 TheWanderingZebra wrote: I've been seeing Aui do Vengeful Carry quite a lot, would a Venge Carry Standard Build be appropriate? Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides. | ||
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On November 06 2016 11:29 Torte de Lini wrote: Definitely something I'd like to do if I was doing these guides full-time. No way I can add any more guides. I know you hear this a lot, but Valve should hire you. But they are probably worring more about cosmetics for the next battle pass and profits. But still, you could help with builds for new heroes and balancing heroes/items. | ||
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On November 08 2016 03:50 Pontual wrote: I know you hear this a lot, but Valve should hire you. But they are probably worring more about cosmetics for the next battle pass and profits. But still, you could help with builds for new heroes and balancing heroes/items. I appreciate the compliment. I do hear it a lot but its always nice to hear the appreciation <3 | ||
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Core mid alch and core mid naga should both start with PMS, 2x shared tango, a branch and a faerie fire. | ||
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On November 08 2016 14:37 Birdie wrote: Core naga safelane should have a windlace as you don't have a bottle and the extra movement speed is quite valuable. I'm also very much inclined to say that 1 set of regen is insufficient, starting should be 2x regen and a stout rather than 1x regen 1x QB 1x stout. Buy quelling or PMS asap at sideshop. Core mid alch and core mid naga should both start with PMS, 2x shared tango, a branch and a faerie fire. Core Naga isn't mid. Core Alchemist - Mid doesn't seem to be getting more than a salve except on rare occasions. Sometimes just a Faerie Fire. You'll have to show me examples, I am not seeing what you're suggesting. Same with Wind Lace, I see Aquila a lot more than Wind Lace. I will add another regen to Naga Siren. | ||
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