Apple has some great laptops and some trash ones as well
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Apple has some great laptops and some trash ones as well | ||
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Poopi
France12907 Posts
On May 01 2017 08:02 Cyro wrote: Apple has some great laptops and some trash ones as well There are only 3 afaik: Pro, , Air, and none is trash iirc except if you only use performance per dollar as a metric. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
![]() The newer macbook pros had some major regressions so a lot of people are choosing to buy the older versions with 5 year old hardware or switching brands | ||
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Craton
United States17275 Posts
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Poopi
France12907 Posts
From what I read in independant reviews it's been mostly fine, so I'd like to know which model (year etc) was trash? Possibly the latest trash one. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On May 01 2017 12:30 Craton wrote: Apple has had more than 50 versions of the Macbook. Some of the recent ones had severe battery issues. Past ones have had issues with hard drive failures or overheating. You're not adding anything constructive by fanboying over Apple products. Are there still Apple fans? I guess some people have too much money to waste. I can also buy an Apple laptop, but I don't want to buy something I can't customise. Also, it's overpriced. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On April 28 2017 19:46 Maiev85 wrote: Hello everyone, I am thinking of buying a gaming laptop. Normally i would buy a desktop but i cant because I need to get it to work also in order to do crystallography simulations with Olex2 and to run MatLAB simulations on 2D HYSCORE spectra. The laptop that i have now is a lenovo Y500 and it is the one with only 1 graphics card. Both of those programs r really heavy and whenever i check the CPUs they seem to go to 100% (not all of them at once). My laptop has an i7 3rd generation with 8gb of ram and a geforce 650m gpu. So now the first question is: I was researching a lot about gaming laptops and all of them seem to have some problems. Razer overheating ASUS ROG some compatability MSI cheap plastics etc etc. from which company do u think that i should buy? Im thinking of ASUS. I dont mind either if it is going to be 15 or 17 inches or how many kilos cause ill be cycling but not more than 5 ![]() Budgetwise i can spend around 2000 to 2500 pounds but cheaper is much appreciated The place ill be buying from is Amazon except if u know any better place from the UK. So im organising to buy the laptop around june or july. also if possible tell me only the latest ones that r good enough with 7th generation processor and to be intel a nvidia 1070 would be great also cause in general i keep my laptop for around 4 to 5 years. i play all kind of different games and i would like to play all the new games also the ones that they say that have awesome graphics. cheers It's an expensive option, but I couldn't be happier with my Razer Blade with the Nvidia 1060 in it. Overheating hasn't been an issue at all for me. | ||
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Craton
United States17275 Posts
On May 01 2017 19:34 Shield wrote: Are there still Apple fans? I guess some people have too much money to waste. I can also buy an Apple laptop, but I don't want to buy something I can't customise. Also, it's overpriced. Yes, there are many. Primarily Apple is used by casual users, graphic artists, and web or mobile developers (in part because you can't develop for IOS without an Apple OS). You can VM or bootcamp Windows (at added cost), so it's not uncommon for developers to use Mac hardware to run both operating system since there is no other option. It also had some benefits for development over windows prior to windows 10 due to file path length limitations and the extremely verbose paths of common tools (e.g. NPM or Spring Tool Suite). Beyond that it's largely a matter of personal preference. In the past Macs (in general) had better battery life on average than other laptops. These days it's not really the case anymore. For gaming it's not very practical, as graphics capabilities aren't a big factor for their consumer base and a decent selection of games don't have Mac support (either none at all, delayed releases, or degraded experiences). With gaming laptops in general you're trying to maximize your performance per dollar, and Macbooks tend to rate very poorly on that scale. The subset of apple users who actually do need graphic performance (which is usually things like 3d modeling) will opt for the very expensive mac desktops (ranging up to around $4000, iirc). | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 01 2017 19:34 Shield wrote: Are there still Apple fans? I guess some people have too much money to waste. I can also buy an Apple laptop, but I don't want to buy something I can't customise. Also, it's overpriced. I can also bash your choice of OS/Hardware, but I don't see any point in it. You pick the device/OS that fits your requirements. The brand should not matter. If an Apple device is what matches your requirements, you get one, if not, get what suits you better. | ||
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Maiev85
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Either way I would never buy an Apple cause they are overpriced for the hardware that they provide. Could I have more specific answers for the laptops? This community is a gaming community and thats why I made that post here. Could you tell me which is the best option for now? Also where to buy it from. Cheers :D | ||
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Poopi
France12907 Posts
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Maiev85
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On May 02 2017 17:57 phagga wrote: I can also bash your choice of OS/Hardware, but I don't see any point in it. You pick the device/OS that fits your requirements. The brand should not matter. If an Apple device is what matches your requirements, you get one, if not, get what suits you better. You can try to bash PC, but I don't think you'll succeed. Flexibility and affordability is a very nice feature for PC. There's nothing PC can't do that Mac can do. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 03 2017 06:36 Shield wrote: You can try to bash PC, but I don't think you'll succeed. Flexibility and affordability is a very nice feature for PC. There's nothing PC can't do that Mac can do. You DO know that Macs are PCs too, right? Also, you completely missed my point. | ||
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Craton
United States17275 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
http://www.techspot.com/review/1393-radeon-rx-580-vs-geforce-gtx-1060/ rx580 being 2.5% faster overall but ranging from 14% slower to 18% faster depending on the game, not just on outliers http://i.imgur.com/Zhe7bEC.png | ||
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NateTheTitan
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So sorry for wasting your time: I found a 1080 on such an amazing sale that the question is somewhat moot now. ($650 CDN on amazon for anybody in the market) original post, please ignore: Hey guys, Could use a few words of advice about a somewhat specialized machine I want to build: I'm starting to do some development in Unity to create some VR projects. I also might try learning some machine learning skills while I'm at it, so its appealing to have a gpu that works for that (CUDA is what i'm looking for?). I'm not 100% sure what I need to get going, i just know that my gtx960 and i5 4670 (or something) isn't quite enough unless I want to stick to extremely simplistic projects. I get some framerate issues, mostly if the "camera" has to move. I also want to keep it cost effective, since I'm a student and would like to not spend my entire savings on it... 1 - Is it worth upgrading from my i5 4570 (or something similar), keeping in mind that the GPU is being replaced? 2 - How is the value for a gtx 1080 vs 1070 or 1080 ti? Are there other cards worth looking into? 3 - Are there any new GPU releases expected soon that might cause a price drop for a higher-end gpu that would fit my needs? (I live in Canada if it makes a difference) Thanks ahead of time, Nate | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13392 Posts
On May 02 2017 21:16 Maiev85 wrote: yeah i was thinking of that but then i would have to buy a monitor and the other stuff and have good house connection which is not viable for a phd student ![]() I have an HP that I got years ago with an i7 (3k series) and a gtx 630m. It still works great, and its survived quite the beat up as an MA student. I've spilled coffee on it, tea, dropped it, cracked the case etc. All I've had to do was redo the thermal paste on the CPU, replace the case fan after 4 years and replace the hard drive from the coffee that got to it. In the end, pick specs, find something in your price range and go with it. In the end, the processor and GPU will be the same. so long as the case is made well and you treat it right with some maintenance and how you carry it around you'll be fine IMO. I mean people hate on HP but mine is still going strong and I use it to encode my twitch stream now and my fiancee plays minecraft on it from time to time on the couch or in bed. I got mine for 750 Canadian to boot. If there is one thing I've learned about laptops is its a bit of luck on how it performs and how long it lasts. I've seen some high end computers break in a few months and other cheaper ones like mine go forever. So don't worry too much about what you're buying. I am sure some companies are known for cheaping out on the power supplies or motherboards so check reviews and so long as thats not happening you'll be fine. | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz £178.14 Motherboard: MSI H270M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 £83.10 RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 £97.50 Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB 3.5" £47.10 Case: Cooler Master - N300 ATX Mid Tower Case £36.15 Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX £37.93 Monitor: Asus - VE247H 23.6" £109.44 Total: £589.36 uk.pcpartpicker.com What is your budget? £500-600 (including monitor) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920-1080 (included in build) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? None. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Adobe Creative Cloud - Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. No video editing. Do you intend to overclock? No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? Yes, but can get Windows 10 from work for cheap. Not included in build. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Monitor, included. No others. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Intel processor. What country will you be buying your parts in? UK If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Preferably Amazon because we have Prime for free next day delivery. | ||
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