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On December 10 2016 23:40 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Hi guys,
Can a kind soul try and help me out please?
So I'm having problems with running games.
I recently did a clean install of windows 10 after getting a new ssd. And I've noticed that my games have been having trouble running in fullscreen mode. It takes a really long time for games to load (it looks like it is having trouble switching to "full screen mode"). And it sometimes has trouble exiting a game. This is most pronounced in Witcher 3. When full screen is selected, loading the game takes longer than usual. And it takes a while to exit (if not outright freezing), with the sound usually "carrying over" to the windows session after the game closes. In windowed borderless, the exiting problem is completely solved, but it still takes a longer time to load. GTA V doesn't have problems with exiting, and switching to windowed borderless completely solves the issue of long load time when the game is launched.
During the game session, everything runs fine, but the hiccup is still annoying considering I expected everything to run perfectly after a clean install.
I've already reinstalled nvidia drivers. I truly believe it is windows that is the issue. Weird thing is I was already running windows 10 before doing the clean install and never ran into this issue before.
Finale note: I'm still running the games from my hdd. I've tried Witcher 3 on the ssd and load times are almost the same (i.e. the longer load time for the hdd vs ssd is nothing in comparison to the annoying waiting time for the "switch to fullscreen")
Thanks in advance.
Have you looked into problems arising from the Windows 10 anniversary update? I feel like I had some similar game performance issues that I had to fix because of that single update.
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On December 19 2016 13:54 Zooper31 wrote:
Have you looked into problems arising from the Windows 10 anniversary update? I feel like I had some similar game performance issues that I had to fix because of that single update.
Hey bud, thanks for responding. I ended up reinstalling win10. Created a more recent win10 installer and I let win10 perform all its updates before I installed any drivers. The problem hasn't resurfaced so far!
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Wanna upgrade my CPU next year. Not sure what to get tho. I'll probably wait for Zen benches and then decide. But what do you think will be the best choice for gaming and streaming? I'm currently only playing Sc2 and Overwatch really, but still I want it too last for some time on future games.
- i5 6500/6600 or Kabylake equivalent + mobo
- Xeon E3 1231 v3 + mobo
- Zen sr5 + mobo
Oh, yea and I've reusable DDR3 RAM
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Zen will use only ddr4 AFAIK and skylake should use ddr4 as well, even if a few ddr3 boards are available and the memory controller works with low volt ddr3.
skylake xeon (4c8t) will beat stock i5 for multithreaded stuff but probably costs a bit more(?) and it's hard to say anything about zen
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Built two computers so far, just looking for feedback on this part list.
Goal: Build a $300($20 delta allowed over the 300) ITX form factor computer for my Mom.
Requirements:
Has to be able to handle someone who never deletes files, uses a ton of RAM with 30 Windows(Not tabs, she hates those) open at once, doesn't close old forgotten windows that are behind the windows she was using before, uses an email application that opens a ton of stuff at once as the application launches (opens whatever draft windows she didn't close, as well as loads whatever tons of spam email she received last time she checked her email).
She doesn't trust AMD. REQUIRES WIFI, and not via an USB wifi adapter! She does photo editing and youtube watching. She also uses standard Microsoft Office applications daily. She values an SSD extremely highly, however, she doesn't expect to get one at this budget. Finally, she is switching from a Mac(any tips for making that switch easier for her are welcome!)
TLDR Requirements: Needs at least 300GB of storage space for emails and photos. At least 8GB RAM. Standard 'Office' and browsing user otherwise. Requires WIFI!
No graphics card is ever going to be used by her, as she basically hates playing games and will not be doing intensive professional work in the future.
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVFFm8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVFFm8/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($57.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: *ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: *Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.60 @ OutletPC)
Case: Antec VSK2000-U3 HTPC Case ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified TFX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $301.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 04:04 EST-0500
I did note that for only $70 more she can get an OCZ Trion T150 480GB instead of the harddrive. She liked that idea a lot. Unfortunately, I don't think I can bring that build much lower than $370 while still giving her a computer with parts I can trust, so I'd rather focus on this $300 build. What are your thoughts on it?
The case was chosen on the idea that she would love having something smaller that could potentially be moved more easily.
edit:
Bonus question: What's the most cost efficient and effective way to clean my PC (in a rather dusty Corsair 200R)?
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My computer is approximately 5 years old. I have no issue running any particular game (except Subnautica) but I feel it's time to upgrade. Ideally I am looking for cost-effective parts that would give significant benefits over my current build.
What is your current build?
Antec three hundred
Asus P8P67 PRO
Corsair A70
Intel core i7-2600k @ 4.5GHz
Patriot Gamer 2 series 8GB (2x4GB)
Sapphire HD 6970 2GB GDDR5
Corsair TX850
WD 1.5TB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080. I have three Dell U2312HM 's but I run games fullscreen on my middle monitor. I rarely use Eyefinity (5760 x 1080) as most games don't support it natively.
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I figure new, cost-effective parts will still be a significant upgrade from my 5 year old parts.
What is your budget?
Anywhere from $800-1200, really depending on what you think the most cost-effective GPU+CPU combo would be.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada. I typically buy from MemoryExpress or NCIX.
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its been a year since you guys helped me build my computer and (my sisters computer for that matter) and I just wanna say the thing purrs like a new born kitten still, high five TL computer pals!
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On December 27 2016 04:22 Durak wrote:
My computer is approximately 5 years old. I have no issue running any particular game (except Subnautica) but I feel it's time to upgrade. Ideally I am looking for cost-effective parts that would give significant benefits over my current build.
What is your current build?
Antec three hundred
Asus P8P67 PRO
Corsair A70
Intel core i7-2600k @ 4.5GHz
Patriot Gamer 2 series 8GB (2x4GB)
Sapphire HD 6970 2GB GDDR5
Corsair TX850
WD 1.5TB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080. I have three Dell U2312HM 's but I run games fullscreen on my middle monitor. I rarely use Eyefinity (5760 x 1080) as most games don't support it natively.
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I figure new, cost-effective parts will still be a significant upgrade from my 5 year old parts.
What is your budget?
Anywhere from $800-1200, really depending on what you think the most cost-effective GPU+CPU combo would be.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada. I typically buy from MemoryExpress or NCIX.
I don't know performance details for Subnautica except complaints of it running badly but you could just drop in an rx480 / gtx1060 or 1070. Those graphics cards are straight up massive upgrades.
A gtx980 (older gen, just linked because that database has a 6970 lol) has similar performance to a gtx1060 6GB or an rx480 - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1061?vs=1351 so you can see the scale of the performance improvement for the graphics card
You can get performance from new cpu/mobo/RAM but the amount is rather limited and the price is high. A 6700k is similar to a 2600k (4c8t) but around ~30-35% faster if you OC and pair with decent RAM. Right now if you go beyond 4 cores you have to give up some core performance since Intel doesn't offer current generation stuff beyond quad cores and core performance is a lot more important than core count for many workloads so it's a tricky decision to make; a decision that might get easier in the next few months with AMD's Ryzen release
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Oh yeah? I assumed CPUs and RAM would have improved dramatically over the past few years. But if you think I can just get a new GPU and use it without bottlenecking on my old stuff, that'd save me quite a bit of money. Thanks Cyro; that's some awesome advice.
Which GPU would you recommend? I would prefer the most cost-effective GPU (price for performance rather than expecting it to last another 5 years), also considering that if I go too high-end it might bottleneck on my other components.
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On December 26 2016 18:22 3FFA wrote:Built two computers so far, just looking for feedback on this part list. Goal: Build a $300($20 delta allowed over the 300) ITX form factor computer for my Mom. Requirements: Has to be able to handle someone who never deletes files, uses a ton of RAM with 30 Windows(Not tabs, she hates those) open at once, doesn't close old forgotten windows that are behind the windows she was using before, uses an email application that opens a ton of stuff at once as the application launches (opens whatever draft windows she didn't close, as well as loads whatever tons of spam email she received last time she checked her email). She doesn't trust AMD. REQUIRES WIFI, and not via an USB wifi adapter! She does photo editing and youtube watching. She also uses standard Microsoft Office applications daily. She values an SSD extremely highly, however, she doesn't expect to get one at this budget. Finally, she is switching from a Mac(any tips for making that switch easier for her are welcome!) TLDR Requirements: Needs at least 300GB of storage space for emails and photos. At least 8GB RAM. Standard 'Office' and browsing user otherwise. Requires WIFI! No graphics card is ever going to be used by her, as she basically hates playing games and will not be doing intensive professional work in the future. PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVFFm8Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVFFm8/by_merchant/CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($57.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: *ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: *Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.60 @ OutletPC) Case: Antec VSK2000-U3 HTPC Case ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified TFX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg) Total: $301.43 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 04:04 EST-0500 I did note that for only $70 more she can get an OCZ Trion T150 480GB instead of the harddrive. She liked that idea a lot. Unfortunately, I don't think I can bring that build much lower than $370 while still giving her a computer with parts I can trust, so I'd rather focus on this $300 build. What are your thoughts on it? The case was chosen on the idea that she would love having something smaller that could potentially be moved more easily. edit: Bonus question: What's the most cost efficient and effective way to clean my PC (in a rather dusty Corsair 200R)?
Sigh, why do I always forget about answering the OP of this topic. I'll make it quick. =/
What is your budget?
$300 to $320.
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p
Slashing these aka NO
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Do you intend to overclock?
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
Do you need an operating system?
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
"TLDR Requirements: Needs at least 300GB of storage space for emails and photos. At least 8GB RAM. Standard 'Office' and browsing user otherwise. Requires WIFI!" WIFI shouldn't be via USB.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA, US Dollar
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Lowest Price and reliable is my preference. No Ebay. We Have Amazon Prime Free Shipping.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVFFm8
This is the part list I personally took the time to work on for my Mom. I want feedback on it.
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Anyone critique this laptop for me quickly? Haven't been looking for long, but it seems like a great deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834234023&ignorebbr=1
I have a rather.... mobile lifestyle at the moment and can't reconcile that with a desktop, so laptop it is, and this one seems to be in a great place on the cost:quality spectrum unless I'm missing something.
TL;DR if you don't want to read the link:
Asus K501
Core i7 6th Gen 6500U 2.5ghz
Nvidia Geforce GTX 960M
8 GB DDR4 (with an open slot to upgrade to a max of 24 GB per reviews/google search)
128 GB SSD & 750 GB HD
Per the OP:
What is your budget?
Sub $800 USD, but I couldn't find anything that beat this with the extra hundred bucks.
What is your monitor's native resolution?
Whatever the laptop comes with, I don't have an additional monitor. I would prefer 1920x1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota, League, SC2, maybe some CS or overwatch. Would like to be able to run those at medium to high settings and future similar titles at medium to low. I'm not picky so much about the graphics as I am about the frame rate.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Casual internet surfing, youtube videos, word processing.
Do you intend to overclock?
No, for a mutlitude of reasons (I don't feel like I'm an experienced enough user, laptops are already prone to heat issues, I would like this to last at least a couple of years, etc. etc.)
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.
Do you need an operating system?
Yes, but Windows 10 is fine.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I have a mouse, I will not be using any other peripherals.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Not apple.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
'Murica
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None, but 2 day shipping (I have amazon prime and newegg is running a promo atm) is a huge plus. In-Store pickup would be equally great.
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Which GPU would you recommend? I would prefer the most cost-effective GPU (price for performance rather than expecting it to last another 5 years), also considering that if I go too high-end it might bottleneck on my other components.
I said in original post, ~rx480 / 1060 6GB :D
rx470 or the 1060 3GB are both fine for a bit less $$ (the 1060 6GB has a bit faster GPU than the 3GB version, putting the 3GB version closer to the rx470 and the 6GB one closer to the rx480)
1070 is usable but it's maybe 1.11x lower perf/$ and the extra chunk of performance would often or even usually go underutilized for 1080p60
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On December 27 2016 07:22 Durak wrote:
Oh yeah? I assumed CPUs and RAM would have improved dramatically over the past few years. But if you think I can just get a new GPU and use it without bottlenecking on my old stuff, that'd save me quite a bit of money. Thanks Cyro; that's some awesome advice.
Which GPU would you recommend? I would prefer the most cost-effective GPU (price for performance rather than expecting it to last another 5 years), also considering that if I go too high-end it might bottleneck on my other components.
I was in the same boat as you recently. My pc was slightly younger (4 years old) and I too was thinking about building a new pc. After some research I learned that simply replacing my GPU was all that was required. Apparently cpu and ram requirements haven't increased much over the last few years.
You shouldn't worry too much about bottlenecking either. I got a gtx 1080 (a current top end card) and it's often running at 100%. It will depend on the game and the graphics settings though. The more you demand from your graphics card (higher resolution, more settings that depend on the gpu), the less you will experience bottlenecking.
A gtx 1080 is complete overkill for you, if you want to run at 1080p (the reason I got one is because I upgraded to a 3440x1440 monitor). From what I've read, the gtx 1060 that was recommended above seems perfect for 1080p (you could even go cheaper if you dont need 60+ fps on the highest settings).
If you want to do some more reading, you should google "best gpu for 1080p" and read some of the buying guides that you will be served.
For reference: my old (and current) cpu is an i5 3570k (overclocked to 4.2 ghz) and 8 gb of ram.
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I ordered the MSI RX 480 8GB for about $350 CAD. I consider that to be a reasonable price for what I hope is a reasonable upgrade. Thanks a lot for your help, Cyro and Sr18!
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Let us know how it goes :D
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I had a friend recommend me the specs I put here, but I figured getting another opinion is good. I have a computer now but I want to replace it so my wife can have this one. If I could get something comparable without having to build it I think that would be okay... I haven't put a computer together before but I'm not really scared to if it will save me some money!
What is your budget?
Up to 1200 for the tower and OS, I’ll get the monitors and peripherals separately
What is your monitor's native resolution?
I don’t have one yet… but I’d like to get two that are the same size
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
League of Legends, Blizzard games, some Steam games, but nothing really that new… although having the option to play newer stuff on medium settings would be good just in case
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Schoolwork
Do you intend to overclock?
If it would provide a good benefit while being cheaper I could try it
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
I don’t think so unless I’m completely missing something in his recommendations
Do you need an operating system?
Yes, Windows 10 64-bit probably
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes I do, but those are not part of the budget
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I think Intel and NVidia over AMD
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
I don’t
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Thanks in advance!
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On December 29 2016 10:56 SaTiN wrote:I had a friend recommend me the specs I put here, but I figured getting another opinion is good. I have a computer now but I want to replace it so my wife can have this one. If I could get something comparable without having to build it I think that would be okay... I haven't put a computer together before but I'm not really scared to if it will save me some money! What is your budget?Up to 1200 for the tower and OS, I’ll get the monitors and peripherals separately What is your monitor's native resolution?I don’t have one yet… but I’d like to get two that are the same size What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?League of Legends, Blizzard games, some Steam games, but nothing really that new… although having the option to play newer stuff on medium settings would be good just in case What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Schoolwork Do you intend to overclock?If it would provide a good benefit while being cheaper I could try it Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?I don’t think so unless I’m completely missing something in his recommendations Do you need an operating system?Yes, Windows 10 64-bit probably Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?Yes I do, but those are not part of the budget If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.I think Intel and NVidia over AMD What country will you be buying your parts in?USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.I don’t + Show Spoiler +Thanks in advance!
Just some quick points, and seeing you are still below your $1200 budget:
- You cannot overclock on H110 motherboard, so you can spend the remaining on getting Z170 board, although I think just keep the H110 board, change your CPU to i5-6600 and drop the Hyper 212 EVO cooler to save money is better.
- if you decide to save money via the above option, can upgrade your GPU to GTX1060 or those RX 470/ RX 480, it will help with new games a lot more than overclocking the CPU. or you just spend the rest of the budget on upgrading the better GPU. Honestly a GTX1050/GTX1050Ti will be fine for the games you listed, but since you want the option for new games, may as well upgrade
- PSU: you dont need 750W, just get a 450W or 500W and you will be on the very safe side.
- SSD: I thought the Kingston V300 got some issue? please double check or you can get some alternatives like PNY or OCZ Trion
- HDD: Don't buy WD Black unless you really need the 5 years warranty. Just get WD Blue 7200rpm for cheaper
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Hey guys, i am thinking about upgrading my RAM and i have some question.
Currently i have 2x2GB DDR3 1333G
Does it matter if new memmory works at the same frequency as the old?
Does it makes a difference using 1x4GB vs 2x2GB of additional memmory?
I have 4 ports for RAM on my mainboard, but can i use them efficiently if i fil all the slots? Can i have two dual channels running? I mean if i run 1+3 and 2+4?
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All of the RAM will run at the speed of the slowest sticks and you should add 2x2GB to get dual channel across all of it
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